The Mummy clothes

[Ken]

Does anyone have any info about the gear worn by Brendan Frasier in the movie 'The Mummy' and 'The Mummy Returns'?

Ken

[Repro Guy]

hey..

I would imagine it's all bespoke / or repro gear.

Id also make a large wager that Peter Wested might have been involved... (the guy who did the Indiana Jones gear amongst other films)

( www.wested.com )

[Hemingway Jones]

Excellent topic, Ken. Though you haven't gotten past Allan Quatermain yet!;)

I don't know much about Brendan Frasiers' clothes in that film. I do like much of it, except for those leather arm guards. I didn't quite get those. I love the boots and the shirt. I would have preferred that he wore plus-fours. And, of course, any John Woo fan loves the double guns.

I noticed that they steered clear of putting him in a fedora; too many other associations.

[Mycroft]

Excellent topic, Ken. Though you haven't gotten past Allan Quatermain yet!;)

I don't know much about Brendan Frasiers' clothes in that film. I do like much of it, except for those leather arm guards. I didn't quite get those. I love the boots and the shirt. I would have preferred that he wore plus-fours. And, of course, any John Woo fan loves the double guns.

I noticed that they steered clear of putting him in a fedora; too many other associations.

Never thought of that with the lack of a fedora. I like the double guns, and by the way they do not make double shoulder holsters, it is all done custom (I have been looking for them for years.) Do you thnk the leather arm guards were covering a scar or tatoo or something like Connery has?

[Lancealot]

He wears a Fedora briefly in The Mummy Returns when they first get home from finding the Bracelet of Anubus. In the film the arm guards cover his tatoo that marks him has a protector of man although he doesn't know what it means.

[Lauren]

Just popping in to say hi to Ken! I don't have any info, but hi!

[Ken]

(Hi Lauren)

Well basically chaps I was just thinking to recreate any of it where is a good place to look? I know there are places online where you can order the double shoulder holster and so on, but I am more interested in things like the shirt in that fabric and so on.

Ken

[Mycroft]

(Hi Lauren)

Well basically chaps I was just thinking to recreate any of it where is a good place to look? I know there are places online where you can order the double shoulder holster and so on, but I am more interested in things like the shirt in that fabric and so on.

Ken

I think an Indy Orvis Shirt would be great for the shirt. I am not sure if they still make it, ask the guys on Indy Gear.

[Ken]

Isn't the shirt in The Mummy white? The material also looks quite soft

Ken

[Hemingway Jones]

Isn't the shirt in The Mummy white? The material also looks quite soft

Ken
Ken,

I did not do a direct comparison with O'Connell, but check this out. White India Officer's shirt from Orvis. White safari shirts are great to have anyway. You need something to offset all of that khaki. (http://www.orvis.com/store/product_choice.asp?pf_id=69YX&dir_id=885&group_id=2685&feature_id=16&cat_id=5559&subcat_id=7233)

[Spatterdash]

I agree with white or cream being a nice option for a shirt, not khaki. Save that for the pants or outerwear items, like vests and jackets.

I did notice the lack of a hat, but I also caught the addition of a huge cotton neckscarf (blue in some shots, green in others, I'm not sure). Very handy for a face guard or a head scarf in desert regions.

As for the leather bracers, I always saw them as wrist support for a man accustomed to constantly emptying pistols with both hands. It was one of the few times I actually bought into someone wearing a pair of those things.

[Ken]

Hemmingway that looks like exactly what I need - I just wish they did a small size!! Grrrr.

Ken

PS - is it standard to have stone colored buttons on a white shirt?

[Story]

I know there are places online where you can order the double shoulder holster and so on

What sort of neutered-for-the-UK revolvers were you planning on stuffing into said holsters? The ones Fraser used were French. If it were something as simple as a pair of 1911 .45s, I'd recommend El Paso Saddlery's work - request a modified #200
https://secure.aaa-servers.com/epsaddlery.com/shopping/?id=2
I believe Bruce Willis' character in LAST MAN STANDING was fitted out with something similar.

Link to small photo, for folks trying to mentally picture the outfit -
http://www.crankycritic.com/qa/pf_articles/mummy/family.jpg


I like the double guns, and by the way they do not make double shoulder holsters, it is all done custom (I have been looking for them for years.)

Tell me the type of pistol you're looking to holster.

[Mr. Rover]

Todd's Costumes makes replicas of the double holster shoulder rig.http://toddscostumes.com/mummy/rick_oconnell_holsters.htm

[Ken]

Nice.

Not sure if I want to replicate everything- guns, holster etc. Really just liked the overall look though. The neckerchief and shirt I really liked as a look. Maybe with suspenders would work instead of the holsters, or with a backpack maybe yet be more practical for use in everydaay life.

If it comes to it I have one colt .45 replica.

Ken

[Hemingway Jones]

Hemmingway that looks like exactly what I need - I just wish they did a small size!! Grrrr.

Ken

PS - is it standard to have stone colored buttons on a white shirt?
Ah man, sorry about the sizes. :eusa_doh:
Usually white shirts have white buttons.

[Caledonia]

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As for the leather bracers, I always saw them as wrist support for a man accustomed to constantly emptying pistols with both hands. It was one of the few times I actually bought into someone wearing a pair of those things.

I only saw him wearing one, but I might have missed the other. Certainly as a brace that would work. Archers wear them on the bow arm. Didn't know film wise it was supposed to be covering a tattoo, but could have missed that part too. Was more watching Mr Fraser than what he was wearing. ;)

[Ken]

Its something I also noticed on Quatermain in League of Extraordinary Gentlement and Manco in A Few Dollars More. The link could be guns I guess...

BTW Hemmingway I am thinking I might go with the orvis all the same - for a Safari style, excepting the Indy shirt of couse, its supposed to be a lose and breezy fit so I might get away with a medium.

Ken

[carebear]

The wrist bracer is primarily for knife fighting. That's why it is typically seen on the right (or strong for most people) hand.

When you are using (and countering) a long knife the guard can protect your hand itself but the wrist and forearm are far enough back to be hit deliberately or in passing. There are several moves (derived from fencing) that involve twisting the knife over the guard to cut the inside of the wrist (veins) or the tendons on the back.

There's a practical limit to the coverage as far as wrist mobility and support (another important part of fencing-style knife fighting) go but further up the forearm there's typically more muscle and clothing for coverage. everything is a tradeoff.

A secondary (and probably more all around useful) help is that sweat (and blood from upper arm wounds) doesn't make it to your hand to make your grip slippery (without looking like Richard Simmons).

The bracers wouldn't do anything I can think of to help with shooting. The flex point of the wrist is in front of them and no professional shooter I'm familiar with talks about them as something useful.

[Mycroft]

The wrist bracer is primarily for knife fighting. That's why it is typically seen on the right (or strong for most people) hand.

When you are using (and countering) a long knife the guard can protect your hand itself but the wrist and forearm are far enough back to be hit deliberately or in passing. There are several moves (derived from fencing) that involve twisting the knife over the guard to cut the inside of the wrist (veins) or the tendons on the back.

There's a practical limit to the coverage as far as wrist mobility and support (another important part of fencing-style knife fighting) go but further up the forearm there's typically more muscle and clothing for coverage. everything is a tradeoff.

A secondary (and probably more all around useful) help is that sweat (and blood from upper arm wounds) doesn't make it to your hand to make your grip slippery (without looking like Richard Simmons).

The bracers wouldn't do anything I can think of to help with shooting. The flex point of the wrist is in front of them and no professional shooter I'm familiar with talks about them as something useful.

I use it in Archery to protect my wrists from bow strings. FYI I also made my own a while back, for archery.

[carebear]

Good point Mycroft, but that's a different breed of bracer.

As you know (but others might not), the archer's bracer is typically worn on the left forearm of a rightie, covers all the way up the forearm, and has the lacings on the outside to prevent snagging the bowstring of right-handed archers.

None of the characters being discussed have or are implied to have bows as a chosen weapon. Plus the brace is on the wrong arm, the lacings are on the inside rather than the outside and the brace itself only covers a few inches of wrist, making it an active hindrence to a bowman, even a left-handed one.

[Mr. Rover]

Not sure if I want to replicate everything- guns, holster etc. Really just liked the overall look though. The neckerchief and shirt I really liked as a look. Maybe with suspenders would work instead of the holsters, or with a backpack maybe yet be more practical for use in everydaay life.

A military surplus rucksack would look cool.

[carebear]

A military surplus rucksack would look cool.

Rucksack? I want that roll-thingie he had on the boat in the first movie.

I will gladly shoulder the responsibility of filling all the little pouches and such. :D

[Nick Charles]

For the pants I would reccommend either these http://www.cooncreekoldwest.com/images2/jodphurs.jpg from www.cooncreekoldwest.com or the Roosevelt pants from Wahmaker if you can find a pair. http://secure.cartsvr.net/product_images/catalog18586/525002.jpg

[ortega76]

I agree with white or cream being a nice option for a shirt, not khaki. Save that for the pants or outerwear items, like vests and jackets.

I did notice the lack of a hat, but I also caught the addition of a huge cotton neckscarf (blue in some shots, green in others, I'm not sure). Very handy for a face guard or a head scarf in desert regions.

As for the leather bracers, I always saw them as wrist support for a man accustomed to constantly emptying pistols with both hands. It was one of the few times I actually bought into someone wearing a pair of those things.


Ditto on my read. I also saw them as something useful in a knife-fight.

[Ken]

Ooohhh. Thanks Nick. I like the look of the Wahmaker ones. Always meant to get one of their Duster coats at some point as well.

Ken

[up196]

To me, the shirt looks a lot like a Filson.

[Nick Charles]

Ken, I have a pair of the Roosevelts and they are pretty tuff. Medium weight canvas, button fly , inside suspender buttons and button fly.

[Lion]

I always thought the wrist bracers were for suport too. They can help a lot. It was not uncommon for blacksmiths to wear something similar. Any repetive action involving the hands/wrists can cause damage over time and I'd say that his character used those pistols enough for that to be an issue.

Leo

[RetroModelSari]

We saw the movie yesterday and my boyfriend LOVED the clothes. He just said that he can´t wear a set of those cause that cool brown jacket could be connected with Nazis. Now I´m not too much a expert when it comes to uniforms or that, but I´d never get the idea to make a connection if I see someone walking around in that very pretty browns jacket.... Well, maybe I´m just totally ignorant [huh]

[Feraud]

The leather cuffs Rick wore in The Mummy were derived from cowboy cuffs.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/feraud/Fedora%20Lounge/mummy.jpg
These are leather cuffs wore for working with rope & steer.
They fit his image as an adventurer/"cowboy" personality.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/feraud/Fedora%20Lounge/cuffs.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/feraud/Fedora%20Lounge/cuffs1.jpg
You can get them through Western reenactment sites.

[carebear]

Cowboy cuffs were originally worn to prevent rein and rope burns. But, the cowboy soon discovered the cuffs were equally valuable as protection against mesquite, thorns, cactus and barbed wire. Early Western saddle makers and mail order houses were the first to make the leather wrist cuffs for the working cowboys out on the range. They became very popular during the 1880's, with the earliest being quite plain and unadorned.

From a sales website.

Whattya know? :) I have only heard their purpose in reference to knife dueling. This sure makes more sense why folks would wear them all the time.

The danger of narrow interests I suppose.

[Mycroft]

Good point Mycroft, but that's a different breed of bracer.

As you know (but others might not), the archer's bracer is typically worn on the left forearm of a rightie, covers all the way up the forearm, and has the lacings on the outside to prevent snagging the bowstring of right-handed archers.

None of the characters being discussed have or are implied to have bows as a chosen weapon. Plus the brace is on the wrong arm, the lacings are on the inside rather than the outside and the brace itself only covers a few inches of wrist, making it an active hindrence to a bowman, even a left-handed one.

Touche.

[DanielJones]

The leather cuffs Rick wore in The Mummy were derived from cowboy cuffs.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/feraud/Fedora%20Lounge/mummy.jpg
These are leather cuffs wore for working with rope & steer.
They fit his image as an adventurer/"cowboy" personality.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/feraud/Fedora%20Lounge/cuffs.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/feraud/Fedora%20Lounge/cuffs1.jpg
You can get them through Western reenactment sites.

One does look like a cowboy cuff but the other looks like a leather covered wrist watch. Just an observation.

Cheers!

Dan

[Mycroft]

One does look like a cowboy cuff but the other looks like a leather covered wrist watch. Just an observation.

Cheers!

Dan

Like these: (Dan)

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/mycroftjw/w1.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/mycroftjw/w2.jpg

[Lancealot]

One does look like a cowboy cuff but the other looks like a leather covered wrist watch. Just an observation.

Cheers!

Dan

If I remember the movie correctly it is a compass.

[Kodiak]

I hear you on this one Ken... I can't seem to find anything in a good size for me these days. We are probably close to the same.

The Cabelas shirt might work for you, with a little bleach maybe.

Want to start a petition to make folks offer small sizes too?

EDIT-

I emailed Orvis about the shirt sizes. I figure it's unlikely that they'll send anything back, or even change anything, but it is worth a shot.

[Kodiak]

Well folks, as always I hate to double-post, but I just got this back from Orvis:


Dear Mr. Mullikin,

Thank you for your e-mail and the valuable feedback. Customer service and your satisfaction are very important to The Orvis Company. Unfortunately I am not sure why we do not offer our the British Indian Officer's Shirt in a size small. I will be more than happy to pass your comments and suggestions along to the appropriate department for review and consideration. If you have any further questions or concerns, please let me know. Have a great day!

Thank you,
Ashley Ramsey
Orvis Customer Service
customerservice@orvis.com
1-888-235-9763

At least they were fast. As I said before, I doubt that anything will come of it.

-Andrew

[Ken]

If you check out the thread 'Travel in style' in the jacket section you'll find they also didnt stock that jacket in small either.

I tell you there is a conspiracy against small people. Truth is, and no offense intended but I think especially in Amercia, less small people than larger people so its more economically viable to stock larger sizes.

Ken

[Kodiak]

If you check out the thread 'Travel in style' in the jacket section you'll find they also didnt stock that jacket in small either.

I tell you there is a conspiracy against small people. Truth is, and no offense intended but I think especially in Amercia, less small people than larger people so its more economically viable to stock larger sizes.

Ken

I agree. Maybe we can get them to change their minds...

"Small folks of the world UNITE!"

[DanielJones]

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/mycroftjw/w2.jpg

More like the second one but in a russet brown leather with a wider wristband, and I think that Lancealot is correct, it was a compass. Either way it is pretty cool looking.

Cheers!

Dan

[carebear]

Size "small" conspiracy?

I raise you the "not long enough in the frikkin' inseam" tragedy. :mad:

If you want khakis or slacks in a true "medium" (32-34) waist with an inseam of longer than 34 you will be hard pressed to find them off the rack anywhere.

Even most catalog's stop at 34 for some reason.

But I'm not bitter. :rolleyes:

[Mojave Jack]

For the pants I would reccommend either these from www.cooncreekoldwest.com
Nick, thanks for that link! Those breeches are great, and pretty affordable to boot. I've been holding off spending $75-100 on a pair of breeches I wear once a year! Do you know if these have suspender buttons?

Ken, I am often envious of people that can fit into all the vintage uniforms I see on eBay. I wish I could fit into all the 38R chocolate service jackets or 28 waist pinks, so don't complain too much. My problem is the gangly arm issue, and Orvis doesn't make an India Officer's Shirt for me either. I often complain that I have to pay extra for tall sizes (when they even make them), but I get round sizes for free! I end up getting most of my shirts tailored to take about 4-6 inches out of the belly so I don't get a bolloon of fabric billowing out behind me. I resent having to pay for my shirts twice, too.

One other thing to consider, Ken, is that if you like the look of the leather holsters, but don't need the guns, maybe a pair of plain leather suspenders would work. I bought a pair sometime ago for that very reason, to evoke the look without the need for the holsters. I really like them, though I only have a couple pairs of pants with suspender buttons.

[Nick Charles]

Don't know. I just emailed them, when Buck tells me I'll let you know. They are a good price though. I just saw something along the same lines in the Orvis catalog I got today.

http://images.orvis.com/orvis_assets//prodimg/38X2A2FH_LG.jpg


http://www.orvis.com/store/product_choice.asp?pf_id=38X2&cat_id=5246&subcat_id=6222&cm_sp=QUICKBUY-_-na-_-PFLINK&feature_id=46

[Nick Charles]

the scoop on the jodphurs from Buck.

"Only belt loops. One would have to add the suspender buttons. "

Buck

[Kodiak]

Nick, those trousers are great... but how do I order them? What is the price? Have I missed a link earlier in the thread?

Praise the Lord! Something from Orvis that fits!

[Mojave Jack]

the scoop on the jodphurs from Buck.

"Only belt loops. One would have to add the suspender buttons. "

Buck

That's no biggie. That's still a great price. I keep checking eBay for breeches, and either only get modern ones, or get vintage ones that are too small or too expensive or too beat up.... I may be getting in touch with Buck pretty darn soon!

[Kodiak]

I just checked out Todds Costumes and saw that they have O'Connell's gauntlets for sale, but no pics. I emailed so I'll post up if/when I get something back.

Now... does anybody have any pics of O'Connell's outfit, focusing particularly on the boots?

Thanks!

[Hemingway Jones]

That's no biggie. That's still a great price. I keep checking eBay for breeches, and either only get modern ones, or get vintage ones that are too small or too expensive or too beat up.... I may be getting in touch with Buck pretty darn soon!When you come to Boston, I'lll take you to a place with breeches and boots, circa 1930s.

[Kostya]

Like these: (Dan)

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/mycroftjw/w1.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/mycroftjw/w2.jpg

Hey, that's a cool wristwatch. Where can I get a band like that one?

Kostya

[scotrace]

When you come to Boston, I'lll take you to a place with breeches and boots, circa 1930s.


Trying to figure out why I live in the middle of a cornfield again...


And ditto on that watch - where does it come from?

[Baggers]

Trying to figure out why I live in the middle of a cornfield again...

If you'd watched enough movies, you'd know that nothing good ever comes out of a cornfield...except maybe long dead baseball players.

And ditto again on the watch covers.

Cheers!

[carebear]

If you'd watched enough movies, you'd know that nothing good ever comes out of a cornfield...except maybe long dead baseball players.

And ditto again on the watch covers.

Cheers!

"He who walks behind the rows" is not amused Baggers.... :D

[Mike in Seattle]

If you check out the thread 'Travel in style' in the jacket section you'll find they also didnt stock that jacket in small either.

I tell you there is a conspiracy against small people. Truth is, and no offense intended but I think especially in Amercia, less small people than larger people so its more economically viable to stock larger sizes.

Ken

Try finding vintage for anyone over about 5'10 and size 40 or 42 - slim pickins there as well. It's just that they can sell more for those who aren't too tall or too short (of course, they also determine short, tall and normal).

[Tony in Tarzana]

Ironically, Slim Pickens wasn't all that small. lol

[Mojave Jack]

I'm giving this thread a bump due to BJonas' interest in another thread (http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?p=184009&posted=1#post184009), and I see an answer was never posted on the covered watch bands. I have the brown band, that I got from Ofrei (http://www.ofrei.com/page918.html), though their website seems to be down at the moment. I do not recommend that band. The operation is very awkward, and I wore the thing for about ten minutes before deciding I was better off without it. Anybody that's curious is welcome to give it a try. It's sitting in a drawer at home.

I also had a repro of the black one, though in brown, which is similar to the watch band that the Commonwealth forces, Australia, I think, issued in WWI for trench warfare. The repro I had looked great. Unfortunately the first time I got it wet the leather literally disintegrated on the spot. When I say "literally disintegrated" I am not exaggerating! It became gummy and stretchy and fell to bits, and the watch fell right off my wrist within about 30 seconds. Obviously intended for display purposes only.

The Commonwealth style band worked great before it got wet, and I really liked it. The way the cover is attached made it very convenient to quickly pop it open to see the time and snap it down easily. If anyone can find a higher quality repro I'd get another one in a second.

[Roving_Bohemian]

Anyone know where I could find the field jacket Rick wears in The Mummy 1?
http://images.mocpages.com/user_images/20160/12478444714_SPLASH.jpg
I've been looking for it online but don't know where to look as the most I know about it is that it's supposed to be French Foreign Legion, late 1890s/early 1900s... If someone at least knows what the name/style of jacket was, it would be a great help!

Also I'm wondering if y'all think these boots would look vintage enough for an explorer/adventurer of that era....
http://static.zoovy.com/img/caboots/W237-H237-Bffffff/vanhelsinginsm.jpg http://static.zoovy.com/img/caboots/-/vanhelsingoutsm

[Edward]

Wasn't he supposed to be with the French Foreign Legion in the first film? If you figure out what the outfit he wad with was suposed to be, that'll get you cloer the jacket. Those boots you posted look great, though the soles look glaringly wrong. I should have thought a leather sole, with perhaps a rubber overlay, or otherwise hobnails, would be more correct.

[Elmonteman]

Not his jacket, but here's one of Brendan's shirts: http://cgi.ebay.com/JOURNEY-CENTER-EARTH-BRENDAN-FRASER-KHAKI-BUTTON-UP-/280604188307?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4155501e93 The seller has some other fun things as well.

[John in Covina]

The cowboy wrist braces made me think, I had seen them in another film on a gunfighter but not sure. It may have been the film "Judge Roy Bean" I think the Judge kills the gunfighter and takes the wrist cuff things as part of his daily dress.:offtopic:

[Roving_Bohemian]

Wasn't he supposed to be with the French Foreign Legion in the first film? If you figure out what the outfit he was with was supposed to be, that'll get you closer the jacket. Those boots you posted look great, though the soles look glaringly wrong. I should have thought a leather sole, with perhaps a rubber overlay, or otherwise hobnails, would be more correct.

Edward, I've searched French Foreign Legion field jackets of that era and come up with several other kinds, but have yet to see this one (except in snapshots from the mummy). If someone knew what to call it (as in, a "bag" can be a rucksack, kepi, or messenger) I think I'd have an easier time finding it... Even if someone could tell me what regiment he was in and what rank he held it would be helpful.

edit - "Non-commissioned officers were distinguished by red or gold diagonal stripes on the lower sleeves of tunics, vests and greatcoats." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Foreign_Legion So he's a non-commissioned officer, but regiment and style would still be helpful...

As for the boots, I know the rubber soles wouldn't look period, but I was thinking to paint/coat the sole to look like leather, or at least blend better. I need the tread for hiking/climbing purposes.

Elmonteman, great shirt! I like this style shirt, and wear it wherever I can.

[Renault]

After the Great War many Legion units were issued leftover American OD tunics. The duster-like, white Gandourah was also a very popular item as an over-garment. This was in the beginning of the Rif war. They were also issued the standard Mle1920 French great coat, in Legion green. As for a vareuse (jacket) they still have the Mle1901 French Colonial Khaki drill kit. Very much used in the Levant with pith helmet. I have one Lieutenant's Vareuse from the 20's in my collection (and it fits!!!!). I'll try to find a pic of it.

Actually the typical Legionnaires kit from the Rif was would have consisted of the Mle1914 kepi (or even pith helmet), the Mle1920 Capote or greatcoat, and white drill culottes and chemise. Along with the old style boots and puttees. But this is not always the rule. The old M1867 uniform like you see in all the movies (like the original ones they BURNED up in the Laurel & Hardy movie, Flying Deuces) were long out of service even by 1915! Except for a short issue during the Gallipoli campaign.

Original Legion equipment and uniforms from this era is a bit difficult to locate and they did have a low survival rate. And when you can find it , it's kinda pricey.

Vive la Legion!!!!!!

Avec mon complements........
"Lieutenant" Renault;
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r174/lt13demi/PALESTINE_renaultinbritishcamp.jpg

[Roving_Bohemian]

Thank you for the info! Are there any "replica" or civilian equivalents to this jacket? http://images.mocpages.com/user_images/20160/12478444714_SPLASH.jpg
and is this the "Mle1920 Capote", or is it something different? if so, what...?

[Renault]

Actually that looks like a Brit Officer's service tunic! But it had French Capitaine rank on the sleeve! The French equivalent of that tunic (vareuse) is the 1939 pattern. I really can't tell as the collars on the two are a little different. The French collars are cut a bit odd. BUT, the pockets look correct for the '39 French pattern. It's hard to tell about the service ribbons. As they are kinda out of sync for anything resembling French.... I believe "What Price Glory" had the Brit officers Service tunics for sale! They look VERY sharp!

Renault

[Story]

Actually that looks like a Brit Officer's service tunic! But it had French Capitaine rank on the sleeve! I believe "What Price Glory" had the Brit officers Service tunics for sale! They look VERY sharp!
Renault
1. Same thought : brass buttons (US tunics had subdued Eagle buttons), bellows pockets.
http://www.onlinemilitaria.com/shopexd.asp?id=1577&bc=no
Note - flat lower pockets, they'd have to be modified
http://www.great-war-assoc.org/aif_regs.htm
The tunic here has bakelite buttons, but bellows pockets
http://www.replicaters.com/AIFuniforms.html


Anyone know where I could find the field jacket Rick wears in The Mummy 1?
http://images.mocpages.com/user_images/20160/12478444714_SPLASH.jpg

2. The Captain's rank was caught by the film nerds - supposedly non-French national FFL officers where rare in that time period.

[Renault]

1. Same thought : brass buttons (US tunics had subdued Eagle buttons), bellows pockets.
http://www.onlinemilitaria.com/shopexd.asp?id=1577&bc=no
Note - flat lower pockets, they'd have to be modified
http://www.great-war-assoc.org/aif_regs.htm
The tunic here has bakelite buttons, but bellows pockets
http://www.replicaters.com/AIFuniforms.html



2. The Captain's rank was caught by the film nerds - supposedly non-French national FFL officers where rare in that time period.

Actually only half true. There were many Brit, White Russian, Swiss officers, (and even a Dane Prince Aage!), in the 20's and 30's, but yes, as a rule, non French officers were a rariety .... Reason for the was due to the loss of so many officers in the French service during the Great War. This opened up billets for much needed officers during the Rif war in Maroc. Probably the most famous of the non French officers in the LE (Legion Etrangere) was a Georgian Prince, Col. "Amil" Amilakvari who commanded the 13eme Demi-Brigade de al Legion Etrangere,
1er Brigade Francais Libre, in North Africa. He was killed at El Alamein.

I would wager this vareuse was probably pulled out of movie wardrobe with the rank insignia already in place. Who knows????

Renault

[Story]

I would wager this vareuse was probably pulled out of movie wardrobe with the rank insignia already in place.

Considering the effort they put into doing a decent job with the overall period look (vehicles, weapons, clothes), the CPT's rank was probably part of the back story (O'Connell taking over the Legion detachment, after the COL fled).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvDUObR4pLI

Folks over here would be able to give a better idea on the complete outfit
http://www.therpf.com/replica-movie-costumes/
Check out the weapons bag one of them made
http://www.therpf.com/replica-movie-costumes/

[Renault]

"(O'Connell taking over the Legion detachment, after the COL fled)."

LOL! Legion officers do not flee! (I know, it's Hollywood!!!!). But still a bit funny!

Renault

[Roving_Bohemian]

Actually that looks like a Brit Officer's service tunic! But it had French Capitaine rank on the sleeve! The French equivalent of that tunic (vareuse) is the 1939 pattern. I really can't tell as the collars on the two are a little different. The French collars are cut a bit odd. BUT, the pockets look correct for the '39 French pattern. It's hard to tell about the service ribbons. As they are kinda out of sync for anything resembling French.... I believe "What Price Glory" had the Brit officers Service tunics for sale! They look VERY sharp!

Renault
I had the same thought regarding the tunic appearing British, but as I know very little of the Legion I wasn't so sure. WPG's tunic http://www.onlinemilitaria.com/images/SDtunic.jpg is sharp indeeed, and may be just what I'm looking for. I can't tell the fabric type from their pics, but it looks wool and I'm looking for more of a canvas-type. It may still work, however.

The Captain's rank was caught by the film nerds - supposedly non-French national FFL officers where rare in that time period. If you look up the insignia on his sleeve it shows he's an NCO, or "Non-commissioned officer" - it's my understanding that the rarity was among commissioned officers, and that quite a few non-french Legionnaires made NCO...

Story, it seems these are incomplete links?
Folks over here would be able to give a better idea on the complete outfit
http://www.therpf.com/replica-movie-costumes/
Check out the weapons bag one of them made
http://www.therpf.com/replica-movie-costumes/
This (http://www.artsee1.com/pageslinked/dragoncon2005%20Mummy%20Gang.html) guy seems to have a pretty good outfit put together (for Rick. The others... :P ) Unfortunately, it seems he chose not to make a jacket and I'm looking for something I could use as a Bush-jacket as well as a "costume piece."
Thank you all for your input, any and all help is appreciated!

[Renault]

"If you look up the insignia on his sleeve it shows he's an NCO, or "Non-commissioned officer" - it's my understanding that the rarity was among commissioned officers, and that quite a few non-french Legionnaires made NCO..."

Trust me, they are Capitaine's bars on this uniform pictured. Depending on the rate, NCO ranks are on the sleeve at an angle for this time period. And they are much shorter. Or,,, they were a large chevron on the lower sleeve stretching from the bottom seam to the top seam of the cuff. With the point of the chevron pointing up the arm. It all depended on the uniform too! Whether a capote or vareuse. French insignia can be complicated for many!!!!

As far as a tunic, the one you have posted above is the Brit enlisted mens tunic in wool M1902 .

However I believe this is the one you seek! Check this link......

http://onlinemilitaria.net/shopexd.asp?id=4446&bc=no

Renault

[Story]

If you look up the insignia on his sleeve it shows he's an NCO, or "Non-commissioned officer" - it's my understanding that the rarity was among commissioned officers, and that quite a few non-french Legionnaires made NCO...
Story, it seems these are incomplete links?

1. Heh. I know the difference, first hand.

2. Yeah, dumped the root URL in by mistake. In any event, that forum has an open search function. By typing in Mummy, one can find

http://www.therpf.com/f24/rick-oconnel-weapons-bag-mummy-78260/

and

http://www.therpf.com/f24/any-info-rick-oconnell-mummy-68445/


French insignia can be complicated for many!!!!


Looks like the costume designers fumbled, since a movie synopsis I'd read before bedtime claimed that the O'Connell character was supposed to be a Corporal.

[Renault]

1. Heh. I know the difference, first hand.

2. Yeah, dumped the root URL in by mistake. In any event, that forum has an open search function. By typing in Mummy, one can find

http://www.therpf.com/f24/rick-oconnel-weapons-bag-mummy-78260/

and

http://www.therpf.com/f24/any-info-rick-oconnell-mummy-68445/



Looks like the costume designers fumbled, since a movie synopsis I'd read before bedtime claimed that the O'Connell character was supposed to be a Corporal.

LOL! And to complicate the issue, in the French military there are TWO Caporal ranks! Caporal and Caporal-Chef! If he were a caporal, he would have had one simple bar at an angle on his sleeve. FYI, many General ranks in the French army, the Caporal rank is worn as a tradition on te upper left sleeve.! This dates back to Napoleon when he was given the rank ceremonially after manning a gun in the Caporal's position, during the Italian campaign!

All the rank discussion is interesting but pretty moot, once the proper tunic is located!!!!!

:-)

[Roving_Bohemian]

Thank you! :D I may keep looking around a bit, but so far this (http://onlinemilitaria.net/shopexd.asp?id=4446&bc=no) does seem to be the closest anyone has come to finding it for me. Rank may be important later, but for now as you said, I'm looking for a tunic... Especially as I will use it for more than a "costume piece" but rather an idea board for a good vintage-style travel/adventure/shooting/camping jacket. I'd like it to be styled after Rick O'Connell's, but slight variations are ok, as long as it captures the... panache he carries with him. ;)

Story, no offense was intended (re NCOs/insignia) I was simply trying to clarify what I had found from research, in case anyone else was reading our thread to get information for their projects... Thanks for the links! their posts seem a bit inconclusive, but I'm sure if I e-mailed or PM them they'd have more info.

Also found a pair of vintage boots that might work if anyone else is interested, though I still like the others... http://onlinemilitaria.net/images/M1940boot.jpg http://onlinemilitaria.net/shopexd.asp?id=678&bc=no

[Chasseur]

In terms of a non-wool, canvas or twill jacket, like the Mummy jacket, you might look at British style belted bush jackets. WPG has a cheap one:
http://www.whatpriceglory.com/pic/khakibushjacket.jpg

During WWII and in the early years of the Indochina War, many French officers and soliders wore British uniforms and kit with French insignia and I have seen photos with them wearing this style of jacket.

Here is General (later Marshal) Leclerc in one that looks quite similar in the early days of the Indochina war.

http://cli.pagesperso-orange.fr/Images/img0016.jpg

[Alex Oviatt]

I have to say that on this topic--or slightly off this topic--that the clothes that David Manners wears in the original The Mummy were spectacular--there was a dinner jacket that he wears, the cut of which takes your breath away....

[The Good]

I'm not sure if this has been addressed in the same thread before, but is Rick O'Connell's jacket in The Mummy 3 supposed to be a U.S. B-3 jacket? Does anybody know a manufacturer that offers the same color tones as his in the movie? Most I see are generally darker than that.


http://www.filmjackets.com/FILM_JACKETS/MUMMY3/Mummy3.jpg

[jOshtafarEYE]

Sorry this is such an old thread, but I am really curious at a particular hat shown in The Mummy (first movie)

There is a character named "Mr.Henderson" he is one of the Americans going to Hamunaptra, has blonde hair. Well, in the beginning of the movie namely the boat scene when everyone is jumping over board and he & the other Americans are shooting their pistols and also very briefly the scene when Hamunaptra first reveals itself.

He wears a hat in both of those scenes and I would like to know where I can find one myself, it looks fairly generic; I am more interested in that hat because the crown, if I am correct, doesn't rise too high. Finally, is there a specific name to this hat in question or is it just a matter of going out and trying hats on for proper fitment? Although I am afraid it may just be the latter and in that case I apologize ahead of time for wasting yours & my time.

[Edward]

I'm not sure if this has been addressed in the same thread before, but is Rick O'Connell's jacket in The Mummy 3 supposed to be a U.S. B-3 jacket? Does anybody know a manufacturer that offers the same color tones as his in the movie? Most I see are generally darker than that.


http://www.filmjackets.com/FILM_JACKETS/MUMMY3/Mummy3.jpg

I believe it is supposed to be a B3, but I'm sure if I recollect accurately there is something that gives it away as not an accurate repro - slash pockets or something of the sort. Eastman do a nice Roughwear B3 in a russet hue:

http://www.eastmanleather.com/images/product_splashes/B-3RWMont.jpg

Aero also do a 'redskin' B3:

http://www.aeroleatherclothing.com/photos/9464bdc460f631f6_b3%20redskin%20p1%20copy.jpg


In terms of a non-wool, canvas or twill jacket, like the Mummy jacket, you might look at British style belted bush jackets. WPG has a cheap one:
http://www.whatpriceglory.com/pic/khakibushjacket.jpg

During WWII and in the early years of the Indochina War, many French officers and soliders wore British uniforms and kit with French insignia and I have seen photos with them wearing this style of jacket.

Here is General (later Marshal) Leclerc in one that looks quite similar in the early days of the Indochina war.

http://cli.pagesperso-orange.fr/Images/img0016.jpg

I have one of the WPG versions, and highly recommend it. I just wish I'd bought a green one as well while they were still available.

Boer War uniforms seem ,to me, to be approaching the correct style, though lacking the lower pockets:

http://www.thehistorybunker.co.uk/acatalog/BoerLarger.jpg

[hatophile]

Sorry this is such an old thread, but I am really curious at a particular hat shown in The Mummy (first movie)

There is a character named "Mr.Henderson" he is one of the Americans going to Hamunaptra, has blonde hair. Well, in the beginning of the movie namely the boat scene when everyone is jumping over board and he & the other Americans are shooting their pistols and also very briefly the scene when Hamunaptra first reveals itself.

He wears a hat in both of those scenes and I would like to know where I can find one myself, it looks fairly generic; I am more interested in that hat because the crown, if I am correct, doesn't rise too high. Finally, is there a specific name to this hat in question or is it just a matter of going out and trying hats on for proper fitment? Although I am afraid it may just be the latter and in that case I apologize ahead of time for wasting yours & my time.

Are you able to post a picture of it? By the way, your screen name is irie, mon.

[jOshtafarEYE]

Dammit, you know I've been looking for pictures all over the internet to no avail. I've tried looking up scene clips on youtube to try and snatch a print screen, but no luck. I guess it doesn't help that he only wears the hat at the beginning of the movie on the boat and shortly there after. The only thing I can suggest is to watch the actual movie and fast forward, but seeing as that is much more of a hassle to do (knowing the internet) I don't expect much response after this, but that B3 jacket is pretty damn nice, I may have to get one myself.
Oh and thanks, my friend actually gave me the idea, he burned me a CD once and labeled it "Joshta" and I basically took that and made it my own.

[The Good]

J0shtafarEYE, I found a picture of what you mean, Henderson's hat in The Mummy (first one).


http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090907032829/mummy/images/6/6d/32829-24486.gif

Looks like a neat outback/western style, and has a wide brim. Too bad it's the only picture I could find, since it's only a partial shot. But I saw the movie recently, so I knew what hat you meant.

P.S. They're apparently making a The Mummy MMORPG game. It's supposed to be free (I think), and this actually looks good for that sort of thing. Better than RuneScape, anyway. If I can get this to run on my Mac, I think I'll be onboard with this.

http://www.themummy.bigpoint.com/home

[Maguire]

Excellent topic, Ken. Though you haven't gotten past Allan Quatermain yet!;)

I don't know much about Brendan Frasiers' clothes in that film. I do like much of it, except for those leather arm guards. I didn't quite get those. I love the boots and the shirt. I would have preferred that he wore plus-fours. And, of course, any John Woo fan loves the double guns.

I noticed that they steered clear of putting him in a fedora; too many other associations.
I think most movies today especially that are period pieces or meant to take place in a "world of hats" tend to always keep the main character hat free. I noticed this in Dark City, the 1989 Batman, and other films, where all the characters around the main character will be wearing a hat and generally traditional clothes while the main character will always dress in a more "modern way". I'd say this probably encourages us to relate to the character and see him as "one of us" rather than as someone frozen at that time. ( know this post was made early in the thread, but i had been thinking about this before seeing it mentioned here).

[hatophile]

J0shtafarEYE, I found a picture of what you mean, Henderson's hat in The Mummy (first one).


http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090907032829/mummy/images/6/6d/32829-24486.gif

Looks like a neat outback/western style, and has a wide brim. Too bad it's the only picture I could find, since it's only a partial shot. But I saw the movie recently, so I knew what hat you meant.

P.S. They're apparently making a The Mummy MMORPG game. It's supposed to be free (I think), and this actually looks good for that sort of thing. Better than RuneScape, anyway. If I can get this to run on my Mac, I think I'll be onboard with this.

http://www.themummy.bigpoint.com/home

I agree, The Good, it's kind of a cross between a Western/Outback style. Looks like a lower crowned, raw brim about 3" size. Josh, if you browse the Hat section, or post your question in the "Ask a Question" section of Hats Threads, someone might have some suggestions where to find a hat like this. Check David Morgan Akubra hats for one.

[jOshtafarEYE]

J0shtafarEYE, I found a picture of what you mean, Henderson's hat in The Mummy (first one).


http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090907032829/mummy/images/6/6d/32829-24486.gif

Looks like a neat outback/western style, and has a wide brim. Too bad it's the only picture I could find, since it's only a partial shot. But I saw the movie recently, so I knew what hat you meant.

P.S. They're apparently making a The Mummy MMORPG game. It's supposed to be free (I think), and this actually looks good for that sort of thing. Better than RuneScape, anyway. If I can get this to run on my Mac, I think I'll be onboard with this.

http://www.themummy.bigpoint.com/home

Thank you very much, the picture helps so much even if it is partial. Not to mention a hilarious shot.


I agree, The Good, it's kind of a cross between a Western/Outback style. Looks like a lower crowned, raw brim about 3" size. Josh, if you browse the Hat section, or post your question in the "Ask a Question" section of Hats Threads, someone might have some suggestions where to find a hat like this. Check David Morgan Akubra hats for one.

Thank you, I think I'll do that right now. I know also that it has a pinch front, so that just narrows it down a bit more.

And thanks for all the help guys really, hopefully I'll be able to find what I am looking for!

[Lone_Ranger]

The cowboy wrist braces made me think, I had seen them in another film on a gunfighter but not sure. It may have been the film "Judge Roy Bean" I think the Judge kills the gunfighter and takes the wrist cuff things as part of his daily dress.:offtopic:

I believe one of the secondary characters in "Tombstone" wears them. One of Wyatt Earp's friend's I think?