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RockBottom
01-10-2008, 05:41 AM
RockBottom, that's a great shot! Where were you?

It was one of the Baghdad palaces. I was in so many I don't remember exactly which one it was. Since the Engineers were using it at the time, it was the only one with running water and toilets that worked!

There are other shots from Iraq (and elsewhere) in the "travels" section of my web gallery (http://pictures-i-like.com/).

cookie
01-10-2008, 06:43 AM
http://pictures-i-like.com/Albums/Album4/Large/C9_palace_Baghdad_5_15_May_filtered.jpg

Iraq 2003

Coffee anyone?

RockBottom
01-10-2008, 07:25 AM
Coffee anyone?

My buddy and I never could figure out why someone would spend a big chunk of money to buy a humongous fake coffee pot. But the palaces were a surreal, alternative universe.

nobodyspecial
01-10-2008, 08:21 AM
I drink nearly that much coffee in a day, or so it seams.

Who has action photos to post? That is, in the bush actually using gear and clothing - hunting, camping, trekking, fishing............ How about accessories, knives, compasses, binoculars..................

RockBottom
01-10-2008, 08:48 AM
I drink nearly that much coffee in a day, or so it seams.

Who has action photos to post? That is, in the bush actually using gear and clothing - hunting, camping, trekking, fishing............ How about accessories, knives, compasses, binoculars..................

Does fly fishing count?

http://pictures-i-like.com/Albums/Album6/Large/DSC_1597.jpg

nobodyspecial
01-10-2008, 12:14 PM
Perfect! Any of the gear and clothing vintage? Tell us about it.

Smithy
01-10-2008, 01:04 PM
Hello to another fly fisherman RB. One of the very best ways to spend a day.

Interested to talk more with you about it here at the Lounge. I'm counting the months to true dry fly weather here ;)

Nick Charles
01-10-2008, 03:26 PM
Jack is that the chair phot I couldn't open?

Dammit now I want to go Flyfishing.

RockBottom
01-10-2008, 03:43 PM
Hello to another fly fisherman RB. One of the very best ways to spend a day.

Interested to talk more with you about it here at the Lounge. I'm counting the months to true dry fly weather here ;)


Are you still at Trondheim? I mentioned in another thread that I'll be there in March.

Smithy
01-10-2008, 05:35 PM
Yup I'm here, send me a PM before you come and I can shout you a pint.

RockBottom
01-10-2008, 05:46 PM
Yup I'm here, send me a PM before you come and I can shout you a pint.

OK. I'll be at a meeting at the Air Force Academy, so I'm waiting for them to make arrangements.

Smithy
01-10-2008, 06:02 PM
OK. I'll be at a meeting at the Air Force Academy, so I'm waiting for them to make arrangements.

You going to be in ?rland over at the AFB RB?

No probs though just give me a buzz before you arrive, plenty of places here to quench a thirst and have a chinwag about throwing flies.

RockBottom
01-10-2008, 06:38 PM
You going to be in ?rland over at the AFB RB?

No probs though just give me a buzz before you arrive, plenty of places here to quench a thirst and have a chinwag about throwing flies.

I'm not exactly sure. I just have an invititation from Prof Ole Jorgen Maao at the RNoAFA.

Julius Xavier
01-11-2008, 12:14 AM
My fiancee bought this for me for Christmas and I finally have a chance to post it. It's (incase you can't tell) a vintage-inspired leather hanging shave kit or dopp bag which ever you prefer. She said she bought it from "Russell's For Men" I knew circling what I wanted in the catalog and leaving it around the house she'd get the hint. This thing just looks ready for a safari in my eyes.

http://pic1.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1116/3775171/7793131/297824901.jpg

http://pic1.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1116/3775171/7793131/297824903.jpg

http://pic1.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1116/3775171/7793131/297824906.jpg

http://pic1.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1116/3775171/7793131/297824909.jpg

http://pic1.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1116/3775171/7793131/297824913.jpg


Let me know what you think. John... how goes those passports you where suppost to be working on when we where chatting during the QM dinner. I received the files you sent me but really have no clue where to start. Hints would be awesome... maybe some picks.



-JX

nobodyspecial
01-11-2008, 06:50 AM
Nice pieces as well as a great photo layout.

scotrace
01-11-2008, 07:09 AM
That shave kit is amazing! Wow!

BellyTank
01-11-2008, 08:40 AM
...thing just looks ready for a safari in my eyes.
-JX

Safari in my eyes!
Sounds very scratchy- ouch!
Nice ablutions roll.

B
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scotrace
01-11-2008, 08:51 AM
And he apparently got the last one.

Julius Xavier
01-11-2008, 10:59 AM
If your interested in getting one I have TWO sources for them. I found the one I have from Russell's For Men. I had to look it up by part number because I couldn't find it by just looking around the site.

http://www.russellsformen.com/06rch06/kor-sr1118br.html

The other one is from Red Envelope. It's the one I saw first and I kinda like it better. I think it's because of the DARK brown leather and buckles on it. But I can't look a gist horse in the mouth right?

http://www.redenvelope.com/re/gifts/product_display/product_information.jsp?nc=97797&refPg=%2fproduct_display%2fgift_results.jsp&pcd=FRPEVI&bct2=shops&bcp2=1&bcm2=1%24%24-8193&bct4=men%27s+accessories&bcp4=3&bcm4=1%24%24-10881&bct5=travel+accessories&bcp5=4&bcm5=29$$%2Fshops%2Fmen%27s+accessories%2Ftravel+a ccessories@@30$$-12696@@35$$12696&catOid=-12696&oid=26063234&nc2=1

RockBottom
01-11-2008, 11:04 AM
Amazon sells a version (http://www.amazon.com/Brown-Korchmar-Hanging-Toilet-Kit/dp/B000PI3PHM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=apparel&qid=1200074114&sr=8-1)as well.

nobodyspecial
01-11-2008, 11:23 AM
The oldest piece of kit I own fitting this category is a cold war era compass, not a great photo, but you get the idea.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a249/meganandrusty/william%20o%20brien/IMG_2684.jpg

Curt Dawson
01-11-2008, 12:01 PM
A decade or so Leroy Thompson wrote an article for Peterson's Handguns on firearms for adveturing between the wars.Not as a hunter but as a solider of fortune,bodyguard etc...Anybody want pick their weapons of choice,carry gear and reasons for their choices.;)

nobodyspecial
01-11-2008, 02:25 PM
Anybody have a knife collection?

Mojave Jack
01-11-2008, 06:05 PM
I drink nearly that much coffee in a day, or so it seams.

Who has action photos to post? That is, in the bush actually using gear and clothing - hunting, camping, trekking, fishing............ How about accessories, knives, compasses, binoculars..................
I pretty much wear bush-style clothing daily, and spend a lot of time in the field. Unfortunately there's not always someone around to take the photo! lol Here's a shot when I was surveying one of the old mines on our base, wearing my new Riverina. I'm standing on the foundation of what was probably the mine supervisor or owner's house. It has the remains of a mill, processing facility, cook house, this building, plus all the dump piles, and various bits of machinery, like a huge single bang engine. Not much left of the mill machinery, except the screens, a lot of timbers, and part of a jaw crusher.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/MojaveJack/OverlookingBristolDryLake.jpg

Jacket is my old Duluth Trading Co. Firehose Jacket, with an Orvis Canvas Front vest underneath, and beneath that an LL Bean Upland shirt.

We are deep in the Bullion Mountains, accessed by a pucker factor 12 mountain road. The funny thing is, there is an old coupe from back when the mine was active and they had a paved road running up there. It has suicide doors, but that is about as much as I can tell anymore!

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/MojaveJack/OldCoupe.jpg

The intense flash floods we get here have completely obliterated the road, though you can still see bits of the pavement from place to place. Here's a shot of the adit, which drops down at an angle of about 30 degrees.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/MojaveJack/MineEntrance.jpg

The mine is an old galena mine, and operated from the 20s until the beginning of the 50s.

KeyGrip
01-11-2008, 07:22 PM
Anybody have a knife collection?
Yep. I find a quality knife to be essential equipment for any adventure.

MB5
01-11-2008, 08:45 PM
Anybody have a knife collection?
Yes, but the only one that is vintage is a Cub Scout pocketknife.

Jerekson
01-11-2008, 09:12 PM
Can't go anywhere exciting without these:

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o43/Lutso/Boots1.png

nobodyspecial
01-14-2008, 07:40 AM
I like the boots, where did you get them?

Jerekson
01-14-2008, 04:45 PM
Vintage pair from Ebay.

citRon
01-15-2008, 07:41 AM
A decade or so Leroy Thompson wrote an article for Peterson's Handguns on firearms for adveturing between the wars.Not as a hunter but as a solider of fortune,bodyguard etc...Anybody want pick their weapons of choice,carry gear and reasons for their choices.;)

My normal carry is a Colt Lightweight Commander .45 with a few 'tweaks'. Usually carried in an inside the pants holster. The single action 1911's and the .45 auto round is just about perfect in my book.
Every so often I'll carry a Colt Cobra .38 in an ankle holster. It's a six shot lightweight framed 'snub nose' revolver.

Curt Dawson
01-15-2008, 12:14 PM
My normal carry is a Colt Lightweight Commander .45 with a few 'tweaks'. Usually carried in an inside the pants holster. The single action 1911's and the .45 auto round is just about perfect in my book.
Every so often I'll carry a Colt Cobra .38 in an ankle holster. It's a six shot lightweight framed 'snub nose' revolver.
I'm a revolver man myself.Usually carry a pair of post war M&P's.A 6" and a 2".Though a 1911 GM is on my short .In either 45acp or 38 super.As far as long guns go I am keeping my eye out for a used 1895 marlin.And if ever I win the lotto an Auto Ordinance semi-auto Thompson.

Jerekson
01-15-2008, 04:59 PM
Scotrace, just out of curiousity, is "OFAS" not allowed anymore? I saw the thread about it but never read into it...

Mojave Jack
01-15-2008, 05:12 PM
I'm a revolver man myself.Usually carry a pair of post war M&P's.A 6" and a 2".Though a 1911 GM is on my short .In either 45acp or 38 super.As far as long guns go I am keeping my eye out for a used 1895 marlin.And if ever I win the lotto an Auto Ordinance semi-auto Thompson.
If you win the Lotto, get your class III and get the full auto version!

I have a bit of a pre-disposition towards wheel guns myself; my Model 10 (4") is one of the sweetest guns I own or have owned. Smooth, reliable, and cheap to shoot. My wife loves her S&W Airweight, too, though it's only a five-shot vs. your Cobra's 6.

Still, my Commander is a lot of fun. Twice the weight of my Model 10, but twice the punch, too.

Julius Xavier
01-15-2008, 06:47 PM
Mojave Jack-

You either missed it in my last post or you ignored it completely... :p

But how's it going on those "Adventure Passports" we where talking about during the QM dinner?


-JX

Yorker
01-15-2008, 06:56 PM
Recently I have been on a revolver kick- the latest one is the pre-victory model that is in my avatar. I really like the pre WWII S&Ws...

I have a friend who does some fabulous leather work and I am trying to get him to make me up some vintage style flap holsters. Too many pistols and too few proper holsters for them...


this 1914 really needs a nice flap holster:
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l119/sepp45/m-1914.jpg

Story
01-15-2008, 07:10 PM
Norwegian. ;)

Mojave Jack
01-15-2008, 08:54 PM
Mojave Jack-

You either missed it in my last post or you ignored it completely... :p

But how's it going on those "Adventure Passports" we where talking about during the QM dinner?


-JX
Whoops! Sorry, JX! Didn't mean to blow you off. Actually, I haven't done much with them at all since, umm, last January. :whistling

What I had started to do was to fill out the fields, then print the pages on a really high quality laser printer so the graphics would be really sharp. Unfortunately you can't save the passport file with your info typed in, but when you are ready to print the pages, just replace all of the typed text with your own information (with whatever alias you want, of course)

Then I tried running those printed pages through my inkjet to put the stamps on them. I sent you the stamp files, didn't I? I clipped a bunch out and turned them into transparent gifs (and turned them a little so they wouldn't print exactly straight). The inkjet makes them look a bit more like actual stamps. That's about as far as I got.

I tried to find one of those things that clips the corner round, but the craft store I went to only had fancy corners, no plain rounded corners. I haven't tried to find one since.

I also have a fountain pen to hand write in all the info on the inside of the cover, but my writing is so bad I want to find someone that can reproduce a more convincing handwriting from that era to fill it in for me. There are a couple of visas that must be pasted in, but other than that, that's pretty much all there is to it. I just haven't had much time for it, though I do have the pages printed around here somewhere!

Mike K.
01-16-2008, 06:19 AM
C'mon Jack get with it! :p
That dissertation can wait a little longer, right? lol

Curt Dawson
01-16-2008, 01:05 PM
Recently I have been on a revolver kick- the latest one is the pre-victory model that is in my avatar. I really like the pre WWII S&Ws...

I have a friend who does some fabulous leather work and I am trying to get him to make me up some vintage style flap holsters. Too many pistols and too few proper holsters for them...


this 1914 really needs a nice flap holster:
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l119/sepp45/m-1914.jpg
Check El Paso Saddelery.I believe they have what you are looking for.

Mojave Jack
01-16-2008, 08:31 PM
C'mon Jack get with it! :p
That dissertation can wait a little longer, right? lol
lol Too true! I was just trying to set up some meetings to visit some consultants and some sites. Now that the holidays are over I need to redouble my efforts to get moving ahead. The clock is ticking!

On a side note, I just got the Village Hat Shop French Pith Helmet (http://www.villagehatshop.com/french_pith_helmet_.html) in the mail today. It is huge! The brim is 2-3/4", which doesn't sound wide, but the crown is relatively low. It also sticks out from your head at least another 2/3", making the brim seem even wider. I got this model because it has the best suspension I've seen, and it is darn comfortable.

http://www.villagehatshop.com/media/images/viewer/FrenchPith/medium_FrenchPith2.jpg

I really wish I could pull this off out in the field, because this thing is really comfortable, light as a feather, and doesn't slip down over my ears when I get hot. It has the suspension that includes two cross straps in the crown, with a loop at the top so you can adjust how high the helmet sits on your head. Why did these things go out of fashion?! They're great!

The down side is that I think they used the same cheap plastic to line the sweatband, and which became brittle and fell apart on my last pith. On the other hand, they're so cheap they're almost disposable!

John in Covina
01-17-2008, 07:33 PM
I wonder if it would be posible to work up a replacement suspension system for the pith helmet.

Mojave Jack
01-17-2008, 07:42 PM
I've thought about trying that, but with no sewing machine (or any real sewing skills!), it'd be difficult for me. Probably pretty easy for someone that knows what they're doing. I saved the sweatband and everything for a long time, but after about two years of sitting there with no suspension, I just tossed it.

I wanted this helmet, anyway, because I've been wanting one in white. It's just so big!

John in Covina
01-17-2008, 07:44 PM
I am not 100% sure but I think there is some type of a hand sewing awl for canvas sails that might be up to the challenge.

nobodyspecial
01-18-2008, 09:37 AM
I am not 100% sure but I think there is some type of a hand sewing awl for canvas sails that might be up to the challenge.

http://www.speedystitcher.com/main.html

Baron Kurtz
01-18-2008, 10:27 AM
I just encountered in a charity shop, for the first time in quite a while, a pair of reproduction "Ghurka" shorts. Oh dear me. What a shambles. All the features were there, but the dimensions were simply abysmal. And the cotton! Don't even get me started.

I've always wondered why they can't get the waistband right.

bk

Alan Eardley
01-18-2008, 10:49 AM
I was in a surplus shop last Friday and found a pair of very good reproduction 1950 pattern KD shorts. Too good, in fact. The antiqued 'bronze' buckles looked as if they had been made by Gucci and the cross-belts had matching eyelets. They were beautifully made in a good KD and were accurate in every detail. The label identified them as 'Shorts Anglais' and had a circled 'P' with wings as a logo. French, then.

Silverman's has good repro 1950 pattern KD shorts and l1950 pattern KD long trousers, by the way. They were (last time I checked) between 20 and 30 GBP and they have large sizes.

Alan



I just encountered in a charity shop, for the first time in quite a while, a pair of reproduction "Ghurka" shorts. Oh dear me. What a shambles. All the features were there, but the dimensions were simply abysmal. And the cotton! Don't even get me started.

I've always wondered why they can't get the waistband right.

bk

Alan Eardley
01-18-2008, 10:51 AM
http://www.speedystitcher.com/main.html

I swear by this type of tool for minor leather repairs.

Alan

Nick Charles
01-20-2008, 09:42 AM
Jack that helmut looks big, because you too damn skinny.

Mojave Jack
01-20-2008, 12:32 PM
Jack that helmut looks big, because you too damn skinny.
lol Maybe! I look like a mushroom in it!

On a separate note, anybody know a good source for the P37 binocular case? Doesn't have to be WWII dates, but preferably one that hasn't been blancoed to death. I've been hunting for some time, and it seems like when I wasn't looking for one they were everywhere!

Alan Eardley
01-21-2008, 04:33 AM
Soldier of Fortune has 'em. And I would try Silverman's. I was in Springfields last Friday and they had one on the wall, but I don't think it's on their website. The postwar ones are idetical except for the Parkerised (rather than brass) fittings. You can easily put this right.

Alan


lol Maybe! I look like a mushroom in it!

On a separate note, anybody know a good source for the P37 binocular case? Doesn't have to be WWII dates, but preferably one that hasn't been blancoed to death. I've been hunting for some time, and it seems like when I wasn't looking for one they were everywhere!

nobodyspecial
01-21-2008, 09:42 AM
lol Maybe! I look like a mushroom in it!

On a separate note, anybody know a good source for the P37 binocular case? Doesn't have to be WWII dates, but preferably one that hasn't been blancoed to death. I've been hunting for some time, and it seems like when I wasn't looking for one they were everywhere!

Deutsche Optik may have them.

Corto
01-21-2008, 09:55 AM
Anybody have a knife collection?
I do, actually.

In terms of "vintage knives", I have a WWI-era German bayonet and a WWII-era and a spike bayonet for a Lee-Enfield.

In the "vintage reproduction" catagory, I have a WWII-style Kukhri, EK commando knife (with cord wrapped handle) and Ka-Bar. (I also have a Syrian dagger someone brought me back from said country and a stag horn-handled Scottish Sgian Dubh. Guess I had more knives than I thought...)

Brand new knives, I have a matte-black Camillus Ka-Bar, a simple Leatherman and a couple Gerber multi-tools floating around somewhere.

The Camillus Ka-Bar is something I use for everything from opening boxes to doing simple around the house tasks...It really is indispensable, as is the Gerber multi-tool. If I was going camping, I'd take the Ka-Bar for major, unforeseen cutting tasks (and hammering those tent-pegs in), and I never take a walk out in to the woods without a multi-tool. The multi-tool is something I never leave home without anyways. One for the car, one for the daypack, etc.

carebear
01-21-2008, 02:58 PM
...

Guess I had more knives than I thought...

...

The Camillus Ka-Bar is something I use for everything from opening boxes to doing simple around the house tasks...It really is indispensable, as is the Gerber multi-tool. If I was going camping, I'd take the Ka-Bar for major, unforeseen cutting tasks (and hammering those tent-pegs in), and I never take a walk out in to the woods without a multi-tool. The multi-tool is something I never leave home without anyways. One for the car, one for the daypack, etc.

Ain't that always the truth. They seem to follow me home and breed in the drawers.

You've reminded me to check on my old Ka-Bar. Gave it to a buddy to make a sheath for me. Time to get it back. That thing has as much time in the Marine Corps as I do. :D

Mojave Jack
01-21-2008, 06:14 PM
Thanks for the tips, Alan. I think I'll have to keep watching OFAS. The prices at Silverman's and Soldier of Fortune are a bit steep, not to mention SoF says of theirs that "picture shows a unissued Khaki but one supplied will be green blancoed." $40 US plus the shipping across the pond is a bit much for a canvas pouch! lol

Carebear, I still have my original issued Camillus, too. It sort of found it's way into my bag when I checked out. It's good to be friends with the supply sergeant, since a radium dial watch accompanied it. :D I got a Ka-Bar later, and much prefer it to the Camillus. The round grip on the Camillus slips too easily while you're hacking on brush or doing heavy duty cutting, but the oval grip of the Ka-Bar stays put properly. Since I got the Ka-Bar, I couldn't even tell you where the Camillus is! I always know where the Ka-Bar is, though.

nobodyspecial
01-21-2008, 09:08 PM
I don't have any vintage knives, but I do seem to be accumulating more knives each year. Lately my weakness is for alox scaled Swiss Army Knives. I just bought Victorinox Cadets in Olive and Orange. A Ka-Bar is on my short list of knives to purchase. I also have several knives by Grohman, Mora and more many more SAK's along with Leatheman tools for every day of the week.

Alan Eardley
01-22-2008, 03:20 AM
Thanks for the tips, Alan. I think I'll have to keep watching OFAS. The prices at Silverman's and Soldier of Fortune are a bit steep, not to mention SoF says of theirs that "picture shows a unissued Khaki but one supplied will be green blancoed." $40 US plus the shipping across the pond is a bit much for a canvas pouch! lol



It's worth while checking regularly as SoF stock changes all the time (but they don't always update their website). Silverman's is expensive - I call them 'London prices'. A lot of the 37 Pattern webbing that is sold is actually modern Indian repro stuff. Some of it is good apart from the metal. It's cheaper than originals, but you still face the shipping charge. I'll keep a look out for one for you. If I see one cheaper I'll get in touch.

Alan

GwenLake
01-22-2008, 07:01 AM
I tried to find one of those things that clips the corner round, but the craft store I went to only had fancy corners, no plain rounded corners. I haven't tried to find one since.

corner rounder (http://www.createforless.com/products/productDetail.asp?ProductID=70629)

:)

ukali1066
01-22-2008, 08:01 AM
Here's my knife, I got it about 10 years ago at Newark antique fair for 6, I don't know the age of it but it's got a great thick sturdy blade.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/ukali74/knife.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/ukali74/knife1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/ukali74/knife2.jpg

nobodyspecial
01-22-2008, 08:30 AM
I like that style of knife a good deal, but have yet to find one in an antique store that suits me. Knife collecting seems to be popular, I frequently come across knives on ebay selling for a good deal of money.

Jerekson
01-22-2008, 06:33 PM
That's a beautiful piece.

kenji
01-22-2008, 09:26 PM
Where do you get a custom sheath made for a Kabar? I'm in need of LH sheaths for all of my knives.

I like my Kabar but can't see actually carrying it. I carry a smaller knife for cutting tasks and would use a stone if I needed a makeshift hammer.

carebear
01-22-2008, 11:48 PM
Where do you get a custom sheath made for a Kabar? I'm in need of LH sheaths for all of my knives.

I like my Kabar but can't see actually carrying it. I carry a smaller knife for cutting tasks and would use a stone if I needed a makeshift hammer.

I'd google for sheath makers or custom leather workers in Jersey.

A Kabar is about as big a knife as I find comfortable carrying. If I need a sword I'm doing something wrong. :D

Mojave Jack
01-23-2008, 11:29 AM
corner rounder (http://www.createforless.com/products/productDetail.asp?ProductID=70629)

:)
Thanks, Gwen! I guess I've got no excuse, now. lol

CatFisH
01-23-2008, 05:05 PM
JRE Industries for custom knife leather...they can make any style sheath you would like...good guys to deal with

http://www.jreindustries.com/

I have a few custom and production knives...

Red Alox Pioneer
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v722/kingfish711/2007/RedAloxPioneer1R.jpg

Iissaka Jarvenpaa with Birch bark handle from Finland
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v722/kingfish711/2007/IJAitopuukko2R.jpg

Gene Ingram custom Sodbuster
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v722/kingfish711/2007/IngramSodbuster1R.jpg

Charles May Skifa with S30V steel and Stellar's Sea Cow bone handle
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v722/kingfish711/blade5R.jpg

KeyGrip
01-23-2008, 07:53 PM
CatFish, that Ingram is gorgeous. Thanks for the pictures.

Alan Eardley
01-24-2008, 05:12 AM
These were standard wear for Boy Scouts in the 40s, 50s and probably into the 60s. William Rodgers made a ton of them. It used to seem that half the teenage boys in England carried one. This is early and a nice one. The really fancy Rodgers sheath knives had a deer's foot as a grip.

Alan


Here's my knife, I got it about 10 years ago at Newark antique fair for £6, I don't know the age of it but it's got a great thick sturdy blade.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/ukali74/knife.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/ukali74/knife1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/ukali74/knife2.jpg

nobodyspecial
01-24-2008, 07:39 AM
Nice knifes catfish, thanks for the photos.

Mark G
01-24-2008, 08:29 AM
Got the Beretta clothing catalog yesterday. Looks like a great safari jacket.

http://www.shopberetta.com/e2wItemMainSub.aspx?itemId=019004026&parentLink=012000100:008000191:008000053:008000184

Mike K.
01-24-2008, 09:28 AM
Mark, a few of us have owned that jacket including myself. It really does look great! Be careful if you get one and decide to wash it - they really shrink a lot. Also, the cotton fabric is really light and not quite substantial enough for true outdoor use. I've been thinking of modifying my Ralph Lauren safari jacket to include some cartridge loops like the Kalahari jacket has.

Mark G
01-24-2008, 09:31 AM
Thanks for the heads up. It's too costly to be disposable.

Mojave Jack
01-24-2008, 11:21 AM
Got the Beretta clothing catalog yesterday. Looks like a great safari jacket.

http://www.shopberetta.com/e2wItemMainSub.aspx?itemId=019004026&parentLink=012000100:008000191:008000053:008000184
Mark, did the wife relent on a safari-style jacket? I have to admit, I hesitate sometimes when I'm heading out the door in the new Riverina and I go to grab a jacket. I like the practicality of both the Riverina and the safari jacket, but it can be a bit much, especially when I notice I'm wearing a bush shirt, too! lol

Story
01-24-2008, 02:12 PM
http://www.lonestaroutdoornews.com/content/view/291/27/

HISTORIC RESEARCH PROJECT: A pilot study will use the North American Wildlife Conservation Model on the African continent, including the collection of DNA and tissue samples from African game, such as Cape buffalo.

Mark G
01-24-2008, 02:17 PM
Mojave, no, but I keep on trying. Even when I'm in Africa I sometimes feel out of place. Everyone is either in canvas or baseball hats. And I have a photo/safari vest but that's the last thing you want to wear... screams tourist.

I'm leaving on this Saturday for three weeks in Kenya (with four days in the Seychelles) and one of the airlines won't allow more than one checked bag. I usually check my hat box (bullet proof on more than four previous excursions) but now I"m stuck and wearing/carrying my hat for more than thirty hours is out of the question. I hope I can resolve this soon.

Also, I'm going to be going to Tsavo and hope to visit Patterson's man eaters den. You just can't do that with a baseball cap.

TraderRic
01-24-2008, 03:01 PM
Mark G, don't know if you've been to the Seychelless before, but it's gorgeous. Especially if you get out of the touristy areas. I've been there twice, most recently in November. My friend and I paid a local taxi driver to give us a driving tour of the island (Mahe). You must go to the waterfall in the national park. The Boat House restaurant is my favourite place to eat. They serve curried fruit bat - a local delicacy. I'll be posting pics in The Steamer Trunk when I'm back next week. We'll have to share stories.

Eric

Mark G
01-24-2008, 04:24 PM
Eric, thanks for the tip. We'll try and do just that.

This will be my first time and I'm looking forward to it. I've wanted to go since I read the "Hildebrand Rarity" by Ian Fleming as a kid (we're even staying in the same hotel).

Just hope the trouble in Kenya doesn't muck up the flights. (not that I'm trying to reduce the problems to one of an inconvenience to me)

Mike K.
01-24-2008, 05:23 PM
I'm leaving on this Saturday for three weeks in Kenya (with four days in the Seychelles). Also, I'm going to be going to Tsavo and hope to visit Patterson's man eaters den.
I want to go!! :cry:

I hope I can resolve this soon.
Sure, take me along and I'll carry all the hats! :D

Nick Charles
01-24-2008, 05:51 PM
Have a great time, Mark. You lucky dog

AlanC
01-24-2008, 05:53 PM
On just ended travel to India I simply stuck my Sahib (aka, Akubra Riverina) on top of my bag in the overhead of the plane. Sometimes I would create a little niche for it between the end of the compartment and my bag. Once or twice it had the sides pushed in a little, but it was fine through probably close to 50 hours of air travel on both international and domestic flights.

Story
01-24-2008, 06:19 PM
For local wire service reports throughout Africa.
www.allafrica.com
These have a more first-hand perspective than AP/BBC/UPI/ad nauseum

Mojave Jack
01-25-2008, 09:38 AM
Alan, I found the same thing on my recent trip out east. The only hat I took was my Whippet, and though it got bounced around the overhead a bit, it came out looking fine. The only thing I really worried about was getting dirt on it. If that's the case, Mark, you could take a small cloth bag or something that fits easily into your carry-on, and just put your hat into that when you put it in the overhead.


Got the Beretta clothing catalog yesterday. Looks like a great safari jacket.

http://www.shopberetta.com/e2wItemMainSub.aspx?itemId=019004026&parentLink=012000100:008000191:008000053:008000184
Finally got a chance to sit down and leaf through this catalog, too. Man, I could spend a lot of money there!

These, in particular caught my eye:

http://www.shopberetta.com/img_catalog%5C70175470_L.jpg

Those would be nice out here, and though $178 is a bit steep, if they're good boots they might be worth it.

I also noticed these pants:Razorgrass Overlay Pant (http://www.shopberetta.com/e2wItemMainSub.aspx?itemID=019003799&parentLink=019003799)

They have all the features I look for in good field pants, but can never get. The only problem is, I could never justify $100 for pants for the field! In my job I could wear these for most days in and around the office, and just wait for them to reach the point that they are no longer acceptable in the office due to wear, and then they become field pants. That could be years, though! lol

There are also half a dosen shirts I'd love, but, alas, no talls. :mad: Dopes. Make some tall sizes already!

tonypaj
01-25-2008, 09:49 AM
Mojave, no, but I keep on trying. Even when I'm in Africa I sometimes feel out of place. Everyone is either in canvas or baseball hats. And I have a photo/safari vest but that's the last thing you want to wear... screams tourist.

I'm leaving on this Saturday for three weeks in Kenya (with four days in the Seychelles) and one of the airlines won't allow more than one checked bag. I usually check my hat box (bullet proof on more than four previous excursions) but now I"m stuck and wearing/carrying my hat for more than thirty hours is out of the question. I hope I can resolve this soon.

Also, I'm going to be going to Tsavo and hope to visit Patterson's man eaters den. You just can't do that with a baseball cap.

I worked in Kenya for two years in mid 90s, great country. And you're right, the locals (and anyone staying there longer) wear just shorts, jeans/khakis, and t-shirts, with any old hat. The safari gear is for tourists... Good luck, keep your eyes open, and stay safe.

tonypaj

P.S. My friends there keep giving very conflicting info about the security situation. Some say no problems at all, some are worried. But that's how it always is in Africa... The only advice I'd give to anyone going to a place like Kenya, try not to look like a target...

Mike K.
01-25-2008, 10:14 AM
The only advice I'd give to anyone going to a place like Kenya, try not to look like a target...
:whistling :whistling :whistling :whistling

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/492/shirtpv7.jpg

Mark G
01-25-2008, 03:46 PM
It looks as if I'm carrying/wearing the hat, and Mike, I'm bringing a shirt just like that except in khaki with a dark brown circle. I'm going to make them work for it.

Jerekson
01-29-2008, 05:58 PM
:whistling :whistling :whistling :whistling

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/492/shirtpv7.jpg

Nice one (http://www.ilovewavs.com/Effects/Music/Rimshot.wav)

RBH
02-01-2008, 12:51 PM
I picked this jacket up at the Dillards Clearence Store for less than the price of a couple of movie tickets.

Its light weight and I think I will get some use out of it.

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2041/hpim2379se9.jpg

carebear
02-01-2008, 08:07 PM
I picked this jacket up at the Dillards Clearence Store for less than the price of a couple of movie tickets.

So for how much? $50... $60 bucks? :D

RBH
02-02-2008, 09:11 PM
So for how much? $50... $60 bucks? :D
:D $11.32 :D


I now need to find me a hat like Clint Eastwood wore in White Hunter Black Heart.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9684/clintfx0.jpg

Jerekson
02-03-2008, 03:24 PM
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o43/Lutso/Profile-KAK_10.png

kiltie
02-06-2008, 01:54 PM
I happened onto this site a few months back when I was looking for pre-Gap Banana Republic stuff. While I was doing a little internet searching, I got a link that turned me onto a thread in here where a couple of people were talking about how they missed the old BR. So here are a few things I've gotten together. And before you ask, yes...I really am in the jungle in the pics...:p

Safari Jacket, Chambray shirt, pants, last generation of the fur felt safari hats; all Pre-Gap BR:
http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/safdkiltie/nanner-safari.jpg

Non-BR Stetson straw, non-BR tie: cotton jacket, button down shirt, linen vest, pants, all pre-Gap BR:
http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/safdkiltie/brfancy.jpg

BR does Indy: A2 type jacket, shirt, pants, Israeli Army bag, early (first?) gen. fur felt safari hat, all pre-Gap BR:
http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/safdkiltie/nanner-indyz.jpg

Probably the last good thing out of BR: post-Gap linen jacket, pre-Gap safari shirt, early gen. fur felt hat:
http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/safdkiltie/brsafari2.jpg

Some stuff: Safari jacket, Israeli Army pants and large gear bag, all pre-Gap BR:
http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj290/safdkiltie/brstuff.jpg

So there's some adventure gear for ya...

kiltie
02-08-2008, 11:32 PM
If anybody knows where I can get some more old BR stuff 'sides ebay, lemme know, please.

Mike K.
02-10-2008, 08:03 AM
If anybody knows where I can get some more old BR stuff 'sides ebay, lemme know, please.
Good luck with that Kiltie. Besides covering original period adventure pieces, books, and other items, this thread has evolved to a large extent as a guide on where to find modern items much like the old Banana Republic used to carry. I know there are a lot of pages to sift through but many of the BR-type clothing, hats, shoulder bags, etc. are here, with links on where to get 'em. My safari-ized Akubra hat was made with the old BR safari hat as its primary inspiration. Many of the outdoors shirts sold now by Cabelas, Filson, L. L. Bean, etc. are along the lines of the old Banana Republic. Some reproduction WWII military retailers fill in the gaps with boots, field packs, etc. If you want the original BR items, eBay is about the only way to go. But if you want new items that are virtually the same, if not better, then you've come to the right place with this thread.

Welcome to the Fedora Lounge! :)

Mike K.
02-10-2008, 08:08 AM
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o43/Lutso/Profile-KAK_10.png
Darn Half Pint, nothing like making the rest of us feel like old geezers! :)

carebear
02-10-2008, 01:39 PM
Darn Half Pint, nothing like making the rest of us feel like old geezers! :)

Tell him to pull up his pants (into his armpits like us geezers) and get a haircut. :D

Mike in Seattle
02-10-2008, 02:03 PM
If anybody knows where I can get some more old BR stuff 'sides ebay, lemme know, please.

We were just talking about this the other day. Before Gap bought Banana Republic, BR had so many cool things. They were different from the other retailers, and I'd known about them and bought when they were a catalog and no stores. And their stores were great - I remember the one at South Bay Galleria in Torrance, CA - there was a halved Jeep (the glass front of the store inserted in the middle) with one wheel off the ground spinning, lights on, light it was tearing out of the store, over a little rocky streambed with a python up at attention. All the stores had a gimmick like that. And they had the clothing to go with the concept - jungle wear!

But what's with the big retailers today? Something new, inventive and unique comes along, and the new kid on the block starts raking in sales. At some point, a bigger company takes notice of them.

"Gee, they've got a great product line, a great concept, and our sales are hurting because we've got the same boring crap as everyone else...let's buy 'em!" They do and then...and within months, all that remains of the uniqueness the original company had is possibly their name at most. The parent company gets rid of the more inventive product mix

What's Banana Republic evolved into? The Gap, The Limited, Penney's, Macy's, Eddie Bauer. And the eggheads on the Gap board of directors were completely perplexed as to why, after buying Banana Republic and putting in the same tired clothes every Gap carried, did Banana Republic sales tank? Hello, guys - clue phone's ringing off the hook over here. That's the whole problem, though. Some big corporation takes over and just starts sending the same old stuff their exisiting stores had, and the buying staff just ordering more of the same stuff, and they no longer go looking for more unique items, or try to keep the store's product line separate and distinct from everyone else in the mall.

Annoying and frustrating...

John in Covina
02-10-2008, 03:53 PM
They no longer go looking for more unique items, or try to keep the store's product line separate and distinct from everyone else in the mall. Annoying and frustrating...
****************
It's because so many people do not understand that a specialty store or company is selling to a nitch. This happens in many areas of business. Big companies are usually run by consenses and consenses can not lead with innovation, consenses seaks safety in same-ness not out of the box thinking.

It happens a lot in the replacement auto parts industry, a small company has a nitch and innovative marketing becoming succesful. Large company buys the small company, doesn't understand the nitch nor the innovation, tries to install the big company regemen and loses the nitch market by not providing what the small company did before. Small company is destroyed. Original owners, if young enough and hungry enough will often wait the required time period and recreate the old small company under new banner if the nitch market is lucky.

Example:
Auto Specialty bought by TRW, trw is clueless and loses Auto Specialty market, WD Source / Centic is born reviving nitch.

Jerekson
02-10-2008, 04:20 PM
Tell him to pull up his pants (into his armpits like us geezers) and get a haircut. :D

The pants can't be saved, being from Old Navy, but a hair cuit? Gee whiz! I'm going on a half-inch sides and back, you old coot!

:D

carebear
02-10-2008, 04:26 PM
The pants can't be saved, being from Old Navy, but a hair cuit? Gee whiz! I'm going on a half-inch sides and back, you old coot!

:D

Half-inch?! Why in my day... :D

Diamondback
02-10-2008, 09:40 PM
Half-inch?! Why in my day... :D
You never had a day, Matt--your time was back before the sun first rose, ya old fossil...:p lol

And young Jerekson: "Turn that stuff DOWN!" :p lol

Just had to razz both of ya a little...:D

Jerekson
02-10-2008, 11:22 PM
You old geezers are way too lame. I'm going to hang with the cool cats.

:P

carebear
02-11-2008, 01:35 AM
Cool?

Let me and J. Powers tell you about the Pleistocene sometime... :D

Jerekson
02-11-2008, 01:02 PM
Cool? Yeah. When you say it, it sounds so un-cool.

carebear
02-12-2008, 02:50 AM
Cool? Yeah. When you say it, it sounds so un-cool.

We had to walk through glaciers miles deep, avoiding sabertooths and cave-bears...

:D

Mike K.
02-12-2008, 10:38 AM
Don't forget uphill, both ways! We also discovered fire and began the whole upright walking thing! :D

Serial Hero
02-12-2008, 04:18 PM
Don't forget uphill, both ways! We also discovered fire and began the whole upright walking thing!
Didn’t they make a movie about that? “Quest for Fire”

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082484/ ;)

Jerekson
02-12-2008, 04:59 PM
We had to walk through glaciers miles deep, avoiding sabertooths and cave-bears...

:D

I had to walk a mile to school every day in the foot-deep snow! And do you think I complained?

Diamondback
02-12-2008, 05:09 PM
Hey, I had to walk to school in the middle of the Genesis flood! :p (Seriously, forty days and forty nights is short next to the NorthWet rainy season...)

Serial Hero
02-12-2008, 05:18 PM
I had to walk a mile to school every day in the foot-deep snow! And do you think I complained?
Yep, every step of the way:p

Mike K.
02-12-2008, 05:23 PM
I had to go to school...period. :mad:

Jerekson
02-12-2008, 05:42 PM
Yep, every step of the way:p

Yeah, honestly. Not one of the generation's greatest arguements :p

Genesis flood? It would be hard to top that, for most people.

But then again, I'm not most people.

I was there during the great Dino hunt of the Triassic.

John in Covina
02-12-2008, 06:33 PM
We had to walk through glaciers miles deep, avoiding sabertooths and cave-bears...:D
***************
You had it easy!

Oh, We pine for the good old days of Tyrannasaurs Rex and Pterydactyls!

FlArchaeologist
02-13-2008, 06:05 AM
A poor attempt to get this back on topic....but what gear did you crazy old adventurer's use during the pliestocene? I'm assuming along the lines of Otzi, even though he's a few thousand years too late (copper age).

Cheers,

nobodyspecial
02-13-2008, 07:57 AM
Later in life my dad told us kids that while he did have to walk to school daily, somebody usually came along and gave them a ride. Somehow dad managed to forgot to tell us the second half of the story until we were well past the school years.

John in Covina
02-13-2008, 07:59 AM
A poor attempt to get this back on topic....but what gear did you crazy old adventurer's use during the pliestocene? I'm assuming along the lines of Otzi, even though he's a few thousand years too late (copper age). Cheers,
*****************
Bear skins & Stone knives!

carebear
02-13-2008, 11:24 AM
Don't forget uphill, both ways! We also discovered fire and began the whole upright walking thing! :D

Looking back I'm not sure that was much of a gain. Where I come from they saw how much faster we could move bipedaly and just deepened the snow and moved the school further away the next year. :eusa_doh:

carebear
02-13-2008, 11:29 AM
*****************
Bear skins & Stone knives!

You got to skin the bears? Back in the Garden of Eden we couldn't kill the animals, we had to wear the whole bear.

On a serious note, for extended stays in the woods, I am a firm believer in a quality cruiser-sized axe. If you know how to sharpen it properly you can use it to build shelter, gather wood for a fire, start the fire with the addition of a flint, build snares and tools for food gathering and to perform almost any task a knife can do, including shaving.

A good axe is necessary piece of kit for real long-term survival in the temperate zones.

nobodyspecial
02-13-2008, 12:44 PM
These aren't vintage, but oh so very nice, someday I'll spring for one.
http://www.gransfors.com/htm_eng/index.html

Curt Dawson
02-13-2008, 12:46 PM
You got to skin the bears? Back in the Garden of Eden we couldn't kill the animals, we had to wear the whole bear.

On a serious note, for extended stays in the woods, I am a firm believer in a quality cruiser-sized axe. If you know how to sharpen it properly you can use it to build shelter, gather wood for a fire, start the fire with the addition of a flint, build snares and tools for food gathering and to perform almost any task a knife can do, including shaving.

A good axe is necessary piece of kit for real long-term survival in the temperate zones.
And a good hatchet such as the Eswing roofing or dry wall model is very handy and will take and hold a razor edge.I should know I have the scars on my thigh from carrying in a tool belt to prove it.:eek:

scotrace
02-13-2008, 12:53 PM
Does anyone know of some other source for Moleskin breeks other than the pricey Orvis models?

http://www.orvis.com/orvis_assets/prodimg/38X36FHdarkolive.jpg

Mojave Jack
02-13-2008, 02:51 PM
I don't know about the breeks, but I can attest to the quality of the socks (that's all I can afford!). I wear them with my WPG khaki breeches and service boots when I want that 1930s archeologist look. So far that look has been restricted to the living room at the farthest, but surely it will come in handy some day!

Incidently, Adam, welcome to the thread. Good to have another archy around! I don't think we could work in much different environments, though, what with you doing maritime and me doing desert stuff! lol

nobodyspecial
02-13-2008, 03:04 PM
Does anyone know of some other source for Moleskin breeks other than the pricey Orvis models?

http://www.orvis.com/orvis_assets/prodimg/38X36FHdarkolive.jpg

Do you specifically want Moleskin? http://www.bicyclefixation.com/wool_knickers.html

Mike K.
02-15-2008, 08:58 AM
A Frickin' Elephant

Jake is 5 and learning to read.
He points to a picture in a zoo book and says,
'Look Mama! It's a frickin' Elephant!'

Deep breath ... 'What did you call it?'

'It's a frickin' Elephant, Mama! It says so on the picture!'

and so it does ...

' A f r i c a n Elephant '

Hooked on Phonics....ain't it wonderful!?

carebear
02-15-2008, 10:44 AM
That one's getting retold to a friend of mine who loves elephants.

FlArchaeologist
02-16-2008, 07:06 AM
I don't know about the breeks, but I can attest to the quality of the socks (that's all I can afford!). I wear them with my WPG khaki breeches and service boots when I want that 1930s archeologist look. So far that look has been restricted to the living room at the farthest, but surely it will come in handy some day!

Incidently, Adam, welcome to the thread. Good to have another archy around! I don't think we could work in much different environments, though, what with you doing maritime and me doing desert stuff! lol


Thanks Mojave,

Aye, different environments but one common goal. Just out of curiosity, where do you find those socks? I've been looking for some cheap but comfortable pairs to wear underneath my BDU pants when on survey (I know...blasphemy...but I trash a pair in about 3-4 weeks, and they're expendable...).

Cheers,
Adam

Mojave Jack
02-16-2008, 11:03 AM
BDU pants are eminently practical when doing field survey! I usually wear cargo pants or shorts when surveying to have somewhere to easily stash maps, GPS, field notebook, compass, sharpies, artifact bags, ad infinitum.... Not exactly Golden Era, but practical nonetheless. I just don't understand how people can wear jeans out there! They're constricting, hot, and have no pockets worth a damn. Even so, I'd bet 80% of our crews wear jeans on a daily basis, all year long...not to mention t-shirts and bucket hats. Your typical archaeology crew. (http://www.library.umass.edu/spcoll/duboishome/images/image014.jpg) Not that there's anything wrong with it, I just don't know how people can be comfortable that way. In any case, I'm usually the one getting odd looks or comments! lol

The shooting stockings I got from Orvis (http://www.orvis.com/store/product_choice.asp?pf_id=7112&dir_id=1089&group_id=1605&cat_id=5787&subcat_id=7088&feature_id=17), for about $25. They are fairly coarse, though, and I've never actually worn them out of the house! Not that I wouldn't, since they are pretty thick and comfortable, but I don't think I could pull it off when I wear shorts! lol I used to wear Eddie Bauer ragg wool socks (very thick wool) with polypropolene liners underneath, and they were great. All my boots were sized for those thick socks, and I wore them year 'round. Then they got harder and harder to find, and my boots wouldn't fit right with anything else. At that point I moved out here to the desert, so I switched to light- and mid-weight hiking socks, mostly from SmartWool, Thorlo, Cabela's, etc. I find them to be extremely durable, they stay up well, and they are just high enough to clear the Swartzkopf-era desert boots (http://www.camo-store.com/images/Altama%20%20-%20Tan%20Desert%20Military%20Spec%20Boot_small.jpg ) I wear most of the time in the field.

Here's my most common field attire (The background is the Virginia Dale mine (http://outdoors.webshots.com/album/114388991EtOpRI), active up until around the late 1930s):

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/MojaveJack/VirginiaDaleMine.jpg

Out here the chambray weight long-sleeve shirts are perfect for summer wear, and longish shorts work well, as long as I use sunscreen. In this pic I just have on my chukka-height boots, but the Swartzkopf boots are higher and do a better job of keeping out sand. I'm thinking about a pair of these:

http://www.shoestoboot.com/images/cove/corcoran/47146.jpg or http://www.rangerjoes.com/images/imagecache/150x179_A1608.jpg

and I really like these:

http://www.shoestoboot.com/images/cove/corcoran/4407.jpg

though I'm not really sure they're very practical.

I have a pair of Corcoran Maruaders in black that I wear when in uniform, and am currently awaiting a pair of them in the new (and awful) sage green for wear with the new ABU (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/USAF_Airman_Battle_Uniform.jpg).

http://www.shoestoboot.com/images/cove/corcoran/87146_s.jpg

They are extremely comfortable, but I can't rationalize two pairs right now. My Swartzkopf boots are in dire need of a resoling, though, and get a bit slippery when scaling rocks and scree slopes.

Badluck Brody
02-16-2008, 11:36 AM
http://www.atlantacutlery.com/atlantacutlery/detail.aspx?ID=1406

What do you fellas think about the old WWII rough outs??

Mojave Jack
02-17-2008, 09:19 AM
I do like the roughouts a lot, actually. The only problem is their lack of traction, especially in the loose soil around here. I am also always a little wary of repros for actual fieldwork. They may be fine boots, but many times they are made to look accurate while not necessarily performing accurately. I had daily use in mind when I got my service boots from WPG, but the leather just doesn't seem quite up to a regular or hard use wear regimen. I have to admit, though, these Atlanta Cutlery ones are pretty tempting! Do you have a pair, Brody?

Mojave Jack
02-17-2008, 12:44 PM
What I'd really like to find is a larger size of these British Desert Combat Chukka Boots (http://www.wephaus.com/proddetail.asp?prod=143706). Anyone know of a source for something larger than a US 9? For those of you with a UK size 7 (US 8) or UK size 8 (US 9) size foot, do a search on OFAS. (Personally, I could use with a US 10.)

http://www.wephaus.com/prodimages/143706g.jpg

RockBottom
02-17-2008, 12:58 PM
I have a pair of Corcoran Maruaders in black that I wear when in uniform, and am currently awaiting a pair of them in the new (and awful) sage green for wear with the new ABU (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/USAF_Airman_Battle_Uniform.jpg).

http://www.shoestoboot.com/images/cove/corcoran/87146_s.jpg

They are extremely comfortable, but I can't rationalize two pairs right now. My Swartzkopf boots are in dire need of a resoling, though, and get a bit slippery when scaling rocks and scree slopes.

How do you feel that Corcorans compare to Danners? Are the Corcorans all made in the U.S.? I've been looking for a new pair of hot weather boots for a planned two month jaunt to Baghdad.

indycop
02-17-2008, 05:24 PM
I had a pair of corcorans in the Army and they were quite comfortable as a "barracks boot". If I could only have one pair of footwear for my feet for everything in life it would be Danners! I have the Acadias and have worn them for 6 years now. They have been up to my knees in a swamp chasing someone and my feet never got wet. They have been the best boot for duty I have ever used and they will be going back to Danner this year for a resole. I will never get rid of them. Danner's cost more than the average boot but in my opinion are the best boots in the world period!

Mike K.
02-17-2008, 06:50 PM
I've been toying with the idea of purchasing this model boot and having it cut down to a shorter 6" height (something along the lines of a WWII service shoe). I think it would just be a matter of some minor restitching. Any thoughts on whether to proceed?
http://www.uspatriotstore.com/images/products/corcoran/Cocoran%20Desert%20Jump%20Boot%20-%20Med.jpg

Mojave Jack
02-17-2008, 08:31 PM
How do you feel that Corcorans compare to Danners? Are the Corcorans all made in the U.S.? I've been looking for a new pair of hot weather boots for a planned two month jaunt to Baghdad.
I had a pair of Go Devils, and they were warm and tough, but they never really broke in well. Still, I think Danner is a superior boot to the Corcorans. I've worn my Corcorans in the field and never had any problem with them at all. I did have toruble with a blister on my heel when wearing them in chem gear about a week ago. We were in MOPP 2 for three days straight on 12 hour shifts, and I'm not sure if it was something to do with the overboots or with my Corcorans. I've never had that problem before, though. That having been said, though, when I was in the desert I wore the Schwartzkopf boots. I still think they are one of the most comfortable boots ever made.


I've been toying with the idea of purchasing this model boot and having it cut down to a shorter 6" height (something along the lines of a WWII service shoe). I think it would just be a matter of some minor restitching. Any thoughts on whether to proceed?
Mike, that is an intriguing idea! I can try and talk to my cobbler tomorrow and see if it is something that can be effectively done. I like that idea, though. What would you think, cut it off just above the sixth or the fifth eyelet?

Mojave Jack
02-17-2008, 08:42 PM
A slightly crude mockup, but something like this?

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/MojaveJack/CutoffCorcorans.jpg

Intriguing.

Duck
02-17-2008, 08:54 PM
A slightly crude mockup, but something like this?

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/MojaveJack/CutoffCorcorans.jpg

Intriguing.

I'm liking that!!!!!!!!:D :D :D :D A desert service shoe!!

indycop
02-17-2008, 10:35 PM
I had a pair of Go Devils, and they were warm and tough, but they never really broke in well.
I had those toand they stayed a little stiff due to the goretex bootie and thick leather which really protected mylegs. For me the perfect balance has been the Acadia, tough but with a strong nylon upper. They broke in perfectly after 2 days and I have never looked back!:)

John in Covina
02-17-2008, 10:46 PM
I had those toand they stayed a little stiff due to the goretex bootie and thick leather which really protected mylegs. For me the perfect balance has been the Acadia, tough but with a strong nylon upper. They broke in perfectly after 2 days and I have never looked back!:)
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I had a pair of Ft Lewis Danners that were superb but my foot has continued to grow and they don't fit. I have some Bellevue or is it Bellvederes that are similar to the Acadias that are nice.

indycop
02-17-2008, 10:51 PM
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I had a pair of Ft Lewis Danners that were superb but my foot has continued to grow and they don't fit. I have some Bellevue or is it Bellvederes that are similar to the Acadias that are nice.
It wasn't until I got Danners that I learned I wear a wide!:eusa_doh: :eusa_doh: :rolleyes:

kiltie
02-18-2008, 12:49 AM
Did you trade up on the Danners? I've been wearing the Mountain Light II for about seven years now, and prior to that, the original Mountain Light. They are collectively, the best shoe/boot I have ever owned and the only reason I traded up is I gave the first pair away. The Mountain Lights are, for me, the quintessential "ready for action" shoe, being comfortable enough to wear all the time, subdued enough to wear with almost anything, but always looking ( and acting ) like they mean business. Certainly the best shoe I've ever owned, and probably the best ( favorite ) piece of clothing/ accessory.

Duck
02-18-2008, 05:22 AM
I wear the all leather Danner Strikers, and I like them very much. They are a very comfortable and tough boot.

RockBottom
02-18-2008, 05:43 AM
Did you trade up on the Danners? I've been wearing the Mountain Light II for about seven years now, and prior to that, the original Mountain Light. They are collectively, the best shoe/boot I have ever owned and the only reason I traded up is I gave the first pair away. The Mountain Lights are, for me, the quintessential "ready for action" shoe, being comfortable enough to wear all the time, subdued enough to wear with almost anything, but always looking ( and acting ) like they mean business. Certainly the best shoe I've ever owned, and probably the best ( favorite ) piece of clothing/ accessory.

Danner is transitioning to a new hot weather model, so their Acadias (http://www.danner.com/product/sale+items/d.acadia+hot+8+tan.do) are on sale if you buy them directly. They don't have all sizes--I normally wear a D width but all they had was an EE in mine, but it seemed to work out well.

Mike K.
02-18-2008, 11:38 AM
A slightly crude mockup, but something like this?
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/MojaveJack/CutoffCorcorans.jpg
Intriguing.
Probably above the 6th or 7th eyelet, but that's exactly the idea! I haven't decided between the Corcoran desert jump boot and the russet historic version they make. Either would be nice and the historic version would make for a higher quality (i.e. more rugged & utilitarian) reproduction of the original WWII service shoe, with the main difference being number of eyelets. Something like this...

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e153/Lizard-of-Oz/1510.jpg

Copper
02-18-2008, 12:18 PM
I had those toand they stayed a little stiff due to the goretex bootie and thick leather which really protected mylegs. For me the perfect balance has been the Acadia, tough but with a strong nylon upper. They broke in perfectly after 2 days and I have never looked back!:)


The 8" Insulated Danner Acadia is the finest boot I have ever worn. I wore one pair on patrol for nearly 5 years, just resoling them once per year. Even years later they are still waterproof, and amazingly enough, still on the original pair of laces.

Colby Jack
02-18-2008, 03:52 PM
I wore Matterhorns the last few years in the Army, and found them to be very comfortable!:eusa_clap :D

Mojave Jack
02-18-2008, 10:00 PM
Too bad LL Bean doesn't make the Katahdin Iron Works Engineer Boots (http://www.llbean.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?storeId=1&catalogId=1&langId=-1&categoryId=49464&sc1=Search&feat=sr) in a tan roughout or a smooth finish. They're darn close.

http://cdn.llbean.com/products/mens/49464/images/M49464_Brown.jpg

Mark G
02-19-2008, 06:22 AM
Mojave, I've been thinking about getting those LL Bean boots for about two years now, but have not been able to pull the trigger on buying shoes mail order. Just haven't had good luck buying without trying them on.

Also wanted to mention that while I was in Kenya I found a great magazine on East Africa; www.oldafricamagazine.com. It has subject matter from every perspective and I read every issue I could get my hands on. I have a friend in Nairobi that is getting me all the back issues and I'm going to subscribe. I know it's a little off topic but I'm sure Mojave Jack, Mike K, Nick Charles, and all the other "Floungers" interested in East Africa would get a huge kick out of this mag.

scotrace
02-19-2008, 07:24 AM
My Mrs. and I both have the Bean Engineer boots. They are oddly not at all warm in cold weather, and take some breaking in time, but we love 'em.

They show up on eBay for lots less now and then.

nobodyspecial
02-19-2008, 08:24 AM
Thanks Mojave,

Aye, different environments but one common goal. Just out of curiosity, where do you find those socks? I've been looking for some cheap but comfortable pairs to wear underneath my BDU pants when on survey (I know...blasphemy...but I trash a pair in about 3-4 weeks, and they're expendable...).

Cheers,
Adam

Try Sierra Trading Post for socks. http://www.sierratradingpost.com/ The selection is hit or miss, but they will have them from time to time. I bought a pair by Bridgedale for the Lake Pepin ride last year and the socks have held up nicely. Keep checking their website and sooner or later you'll find some.

rumblefish
02-19-2008, 08:46 AM
Too bad LL Bean doesn't make the Katahdin Iron Works Engineer Boots (http://www.llbean.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?storeId=1&catalogId=1&langId=-1&categoryId=49464&sc1=Search&feat=sr) in a tan roughout or a smooth finish. They're darn close.


I've had a pair from Chippewa that are simmilar. They were on the dull side when I first got them. They quickly got a descent smooth look after about four months of wear. Not quite polished , but not suede looking either. Sportsman's Guide has them fairly cheap at times.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee144/stumblecookies/121100_ts.jpg
One boot manufacturer I have had trouble with was Rocky. They've always taken back boots that have fallen apart, so they do care about customer support. I've heard so many good thing about them, but in the past four years I went through three pairs of boots of theirs. Two were the same lightweight boot which I used for rabbit/bird hunting and warm days deer hunting, the other a "sneaker boot"(not made anymore), very light weight. I finally gave up and bought a light boot by browning.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee144/stumblecookies/i811960sq02.jpg
They held up well this season, still waterproof and they are comfortable.

HamletJSD
02-19-2008, 09:40 AM
Since boots were mentioned .... does anyone have experience with Red Wings outside the realm of "work boots"?

My wife and I had to start wearing them at work (for electrical hazard and steel toe necessities), but those stupid work boots have turned out to be the most comfortable shoes I own and the only ones that fit correct on my extra wide foot.

Purely out of that one good experience, I am thinking of purchasing a pair (even if it costs me two or three hundred dollars) of their casual or hiking boots. Anyone have Red Wing advice or a model they particularly enjoy?

Mojave Jack
02-19-2008, 09:44 AM
Also wanted to mention that while I was in Kenya I found a great magazine on East Africa; www.oldafricamagazine.com. It has subject matter from every perspective and I read every issue I could get my hands on. I have a friend in Nairobi that is getting me all the back issues and I'm going to subscribe. I know it's a little off topic but I'm sure Mojave Jack, Mike K, Nick Charles, and all the other "Floungers" interested in East Africa would get a huge kick out of this mag.
Mark, that looks like some fascinating reading. I checked out the website briefly, but I'll have to go back and look closer. It looks like the articles they have online are all full text. Thanks for the heads up!


My Mrs. and I both have the Bean Engineer boots. They are oddly not at all warm in cold weather, and take some breaking in time, but we love 'em.

They show up on eBay for lots less now and then.
Scott, how do you find the fit compared to your normal shoe size and fit? Like Mark, I've had trouble getting a good fit when ordering online, and resist doing so whenever possible. In fact, I tried all of LL Bean's mid-weight hikers, and could not find a pair that fit well. I spent about $100 on shipping them back and forth until I finally gave up.

My dad has a pair of Chippewas that he has had for 30 years, at least. Fortunately we wear the exact same size, and I've worn his for extended periods. They were some of the most comfortable, tough, and warm boots I've ever worn. They used to be called their "40 Belows" but I'm not sure what they call them now.

nobodyspecial
02-19-2008, 10:47 AM
Since boots were mentioned .... does anyone have experience with Red Wings outside the realm of "work boots"?

My wife and I had to start wearing them at work (for electrical hazard and steel toe necessities), but those stupid work boots have turned out to be the most comfortable shoes I own and the only ones that fit correct on my extra wide foot.

Purely out of that one good experience, I am thinking of purchasing a pair (even if it costs me two or three hundred dollars) of their casual or hiking boots. Anyone have Red Wing advice or a model they particularly enjoy?

Reinforcement of the old addage, "If the shoe fits, wear it." I have strange feet and finding a good fit is not easy. If Red Wing works for you go for it. Red Wing also owns Vasque so you may want to look there as well for hiking boots.

tonypaj
02-19-2008, 11:02 AM
Mojave, I've been thinking about getting those LL Bean boots for about two years now, but have not been able to pull the trigger on buying shoes mail order. Just haven't had good luck buying without trying them on.

Also wanted to mention that while I was in Kenya I found a great magazine on East Africa; www.oldafricamagazine.com. It has subject matter from every perspective and I read every issue I could get my hands on. I have a friend in Nairobi that is getting me all the back issues and I'm going to subscribe. I know it's a little off topic but I'm sure Mojave Jack, Mike K, Nick Charles, and all the other "Floungers" interested in East Africa would get a huge kick out of this mag.

How was Kenya? I'm planning to take the family there for Christmas, 2-3 weeks. Would be staying with friends, a safari for a few days (Finch-Hattons or like), a few days in Zanzibar, as well. What was the security situation like, I keep getting mixed info, don't know about going to Western Kenya, however I can't see too much worries about Nairobi...

Mark G
02-19-2008, 03:07 PM
Tonypaj, we had no problems whatsoever. Even in Nakuru and Navasha it has been safe enough to take tourist to the parks. If I hadn't heard any news I would not have been aware of any trouble. Kenya needs the business so I say go ahead with your plans.

Mike K.
02-19-2008, 04:18 PM
Those Bean engineer boots are too darn heavy!! They are essentially the Chippewa 6" work boot marketed through L. L. Bean. I have a pair purchased from the Sportsman's Guide. They run about a half size large and they are definitely not built on a Munson last like the old army boots (e.g. Corcorans). Did I mention how heavy they are?

My daily footwear is the Hi-Tec Fastpack boot. These are very light weight, and have withstood years of grueling "combat" work in Florida's backcountry. I have owned similar Hi-Tec boots over the years and all have been very comfortable right out of the box and have lasted many years and many miles. Maybe they aren't too vintage-looking, but they're the best!
http://www.hi-tec.com/images/shoes/colourId_4719_detail.jpg

Mark - thanks for the info on that publication. I'll definitely be checking it out. Hope I'll be able to see some photos from your safari sometime soon!

Nick Charles
02-19-2008, 04:59 PM
Jack the sportsmansguide boots are pretty dead n in size and the wide toe gives you plenty of room. I've had mine for 3 yars and the get the crap beat out of them, they are pretty good boots. If you look really close on a blow up of the LL beans you can tell they are the same Chippies.

An the magazine looks great mark, but is $50 for a sub and the entire back issue set is only 40 go figure.

Mojave Jack
02-19-2008, 05:16 PM
Nick! Welcome back! You've been conspicuously absent for several pages here.

I'll have to check out your boots the next time I come that way. Between the mail-order thing and Mike's review on the weight, I'll have to heft yours and see what I think. That SunBody was one heavy hat, so you'll pardon my hesitation! ;)

MrBern
02-19-2008, 05:24 PM
Probably above the 6th or 7th eyelet, but that's exactly the idea! I haven't decided between the Corcoran desert jump boot and the russet historic version they make. Either would be nice and the historic version would make for a higher quality (i.e. more rugged & utilitarian) reproduction of the original WWII service shoe, with the main difference being number of eyelets. Something like this...

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e153/Lizard-of-Oz/1510.jpg

Im liking that desert boot as well as the cutdown idea very much.
I wouldnt mind a boot w/ a zipper running down the side.

But why cut down russet corcorans when you could jsut order service shoes from a reproduction house like AtTheFront?
http://www.atthefront.com/us_boot_serv_shoe_main.jpg

Nick Charles
02-19-2008, 06:15 PM
well if you weren't a skinny twig your neck might be stronger;) The boots are a little heavy but you forget that I come from a western packer and cowboy Hats background. they tend to be heavier items.

Mark G
02-20-2008, 09:02 AM
An the magazine looks great mark, but is $50 for a sub and the entire back issue set is only 40 go figure.

Nick, they only list half the back issues for $40 USD. I don't know why they haven't listed the others. They are up to issue 15.

Mike K. I'll try to post pics and a mini report on the "Steamer Trunk". in the next couple days.

Mike K.
02-20-2008, 09:08 AM
But why cut down russet corcorans when you could jsut order service shoes from a reproduction house like AtTheFront?
http://www.atthefront.com/us_boot_serv_shoe_main.jpg
That was originally what I planned to do. Is their leather thick enough for actual field wear as an everyday work boot? The only pair I've seen was from WPG and the leather was thin and not up to the task of being daily work wear.

nobodyspecial
02-20-2008, 09:17 AM
That's a nice looking boot.

I bought a pair of Asolo TPS 535 boots last year and like them a great deal.
http://www.rei.com/product/694262

It was all I could do to not buy a boot with a Norweigen welt. I still can't get myself to look at gore tex boots or boots with fabric uppers. Maybe someday.

Mike K.
02-20-2008, 11:31 AM
That's a nice looking boot.

I bought a pair of Asolo TPS 535 boots last year and like them a great deal.
http://www.rei.com/product/694262

It was all I could do to not buy a boot with a Norweigen welt. I still can't get myself to look at gore tex boots or boots with fabric uppers. Maybe someday.
Hey, those Asolo boots are great! I still have a pair, but the leather seems to have shrunk and they're rather tight now (must have got 'em wet). Don't worry about looking for Goretex boots, they aren't worth it. An all-leather boot can be waterproofed just as good. Also for Goretex to work there must be a significant temperature differential between inside & outside the boot in order to drive the water vapor through the membrane. That means unless you are wearing the boots in cold weather all the time, the fancy waterproof-breathable membrane will only be waterproof...forget about breathability!! And as for that waterproofness, if you ever get water over the top edge of the boot you can forget about it ever leaving. I'll buy a Goretex winter jacket, but will never again get any waterproof-breathable boots - they're very hot and they don't really breathe unless you have just the right weather conditions. I'd rather have all leather boots or a simple leather-fabric combination - something that will actually breathe and will dry fast.

nobodyspecial
02-20-2008, 03:06 PM
I'm of the same mind with boots. Waterproof boots are great if you stand around in water all day, but for general hiking and backpacking I've never needed completely waterproof boots. If boots keep water out they will keep sweat in. It's just the way it is.

Mojave Jack
02-20-2008, 04:05 PM
Now why, if the Australians can incorporate a classic piece of headgear into their modern uniforms, can't the US Army?

http://img240.echo.cx/img240/7164/1a3vx.jpg

That's just cool, that's what that is.

Sorry about the huge pic gents, but I swiped it from another site.

nobodyspecial
02-20-2008, 04:23 PM
The hat is fine, but the bush coming out of the top needs to go. I actually like the beret look myself.

Mojave Jack
02-20-2008, 04:32 PM
The story I've heard on the emu feather for the cav and mounted infantry units was that the troopers would display feats of horsemanship by pulling the feathers out from a running emu.

I hated wearing a beret. It was hot, didn't do a thing for the sun, and was a pain to get it to look like anything but a French baker's hat.

Nick Charles
02-20-2008, 06:50 PM
I really like that hat. they look like they mean business. Who cares it something on it looks funny its the principal of the thing that matters, especially to the wearer.

indycop
02-20-2008, 09:16 PM
Now why, if the Australians can incorporate a classic piece of headgear into their modern uniforms, can't the US Army?

That does look cool but what the heck do they do with those things when they don the helmets!?

Mojave Jack
02-20-2008, 09:58 PM
Good point. Maybe they push them back on their backs, suspended by the chinstrap. Like a cowboy. I guess that could be a bit of a liability if they went into action, with that thing flopping around and falling in front of your face or something.

indycop
02-20-2008, 10:02 PM
Good point. Maybe they push them back on their backs, suspended by the chinstrap. Like a cowboy. I guess that could be a bit of a liability if they went into action, with that thing flopping around and falling in front of your face or something.
If it was made of kevlar instead of felt then.....:rolleyes:

Mike K.
02-21-2008, 08:41 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4a/Gurkha_IOC_1.jpg/399px-Gurkha_IOC_1.jpg http://www.gurkha-security.co.uk/gurkha%20parade.jpg

Story
02-21-2008, 07:46 PM
Tangential to the thread, if true this would have the *real* hunters rolling over in their graves.

http://travel.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/travel/news/article3333595.ece

From The Sunday Times
February 10, 2008

African lion encounters: a bloody con
Chris Haslam reveals the gruesome truth behind big-cat conservation projects which British holiday firms champion
Chris Haslam

Its the latest attraction for tourists visiting southern Africa, but conservationists are warning that walking with lions is quite literally a bloody con.

Dozens of private game parks across South Africa and Zimbabwe offer, or have offered, tourists the opportunity to walk with, handle and be photographed with lion cubs.

Excursions to some, such as the Aquila Private Game Reserve, outside Cape Town, and the Seaview Game and Lion Park, in Port Elizabeth, are offered by tour operators such as Kuoni, Virgin Holidays and the Holland America cruise line.

Antelope Park, in Zimbabwe, charges about 20 for a 90-minute lion encounter it describes as not just a very privileged photo opportunity, [but] the chance for you to become a conservationist. The parks African Lion Environmental Research Trust (Alert) programme is enthusiastically supported by Sir Ranulph Fiennes, who, on his www.7summits.com website, praises its efforts to help steadily increase the number of lions into areas carefully protected from poachers.

The Sunday Times, however, has learnt that, far from being released into the wild, as many as 59 lion cubs raised at Antelope Park have been sold to big-game-hunting operations to be shot for sport.

Duck
02-21-2008, 08:04 PM
But why cut down russet corcorans when you could jsut order service shoes from a reproduction house like AtTheFront?
http://www.atthefront.com/us_boot_serv_shoe_main.jpg
I love the look of these service shoes, however all of the repos are listed in only the WIDE sizes and I wear a B width dress shoe

Vladimir Berkov
02-21-2008, 08:17 PM
Now why, if the Australians can incorporate a classic piece of headgear into their modern uniforms, can't the US Army?

That's just cool, that's what that is.



I think it is just too much of juxtaposition, it looks wierd. And yeah, stowing that thing when wearing a helmet is going to be a problem. Some uniform traditions should probably stay in the past where they belong, rather than showing up today in some bastardized form. For instance:

http://www.cavhooah.com/images/stetsonparade.gif

Mojave Jack
02-23-2008, 10:30 AM
PT with drawn sabers! There are just so many bad endings for that! lol

Flitcraft
02-23-2008, 11:54 AM
PT with drawn sabers! There are just so many bad endings for that!

Wow! Sounds like a Monty Python skit synopsis!:eusa_doh:

Story
02-23-2008, 07:29 PM
It's a Cav thang - you wouldn't understand.
http://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/geno/rofl.gif

Mike K.
02-28-2008, 09:35 AM
Orvis introduces a great-looking safari jacket in obnoxious easter egg colors. *yucky*

http://images3.orvis.com/orvis_assets/prodimg/26YRVB.jpg http://images3.orvis.com/orvis_assets/prodimg/48H1F8SB.jpg

I especially love the pink one...great camo if you ever happen to find yourself amidst a flock of flamingoes! lol

Mike K.
02-28-2008, 09:55 AM
Based on the latest greatest fashion trends of the season that everyone must have, I've decided to throw away all my khakis, leathers, and sharp-looking hats...even my trusty rifle. How could I possibly wear such outdated apparel? This, my friends is what every true adventurer should be toting this season. I present to you my new collection of adventure gear.
N O T ! ! !

http://images3.orvis.com/orvis_assets/prodimg/26YRVB.jpg http://www.orvis.com/orvis_assets/prodimg/258KVBmaize.jpg
http://www.mooncostumes.com/image/7590 http://www.jackpurcell.com/conversehi/bluered.jpg
http://i.sunfitters.com/3/ks402-1-z.jpg

nobodyspecial
02-28-2008, 10:07 AM
Monty Python did a skit titled "Hairdressers Expedition on Everest." I sense they could have a field day with the new Orvis lineup.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F2SJS6B1wQ

Mojave Jack
02-28-2008, 10:38 AM
Based on the latest greatest fashion trends of the season that everyone must have, I've decided to throw away all my khakis, leathers, and sharp-looking hats...even my trusty rifle. How could I possibly wear such outdated apparel? This, my friends is what every true adventurer should be toting this season. I present to you my new collection of adventure gear.
N O T ! ! !
lol lol lol

Mike, I can't believe you would even think of pairing those yellow pants with the jacket. Clearly a pair of Orvis Madras patch pants are what called for here!

http://images2.orvis.com/orvis_assets/prodimg/90HPL6VT.jpg

Or perhaps the plaid Bermuda shorts

http://images2.orvis.com/orvis_assets/prodimg/39RKVB.jpg

Seriously, though, what are they thinking?!

Boodles
02-28-2008, 11:16 AM
When you see dry goods like these "Safari" jackets, offered in pistachio or bubble gum, one has to wonder what in the world Orvis is thinking. To save time and shop wear these tacky things should just go directly into the Tent Sale section of the online catalog. Can you imagine the heckling going in the Orvis warehouse among the old timers; Orvis the quasi heir apparent to the Willis & Geiger market? Somehow I cannot imagine that WillieGee ever listed such an abominable item. Advice from the peanut gallery Mr Orvis--albeit unsoliticed--before buying stuff like this your buyers should perform a simple litmus test: would MikeK, Boodles or anyone else in the safarized Riverina club be caught dead wearing this jacket to a dog fight? Nyet.

Mike K.
02-28-2008, 01:45 PM
Clearly a pair of Orvis Madras patch pants are what called for here!
Jack, you don't think they'd clash with the cool hat do you?

Who wants to bet that this crap quickly ends up heavily discounted on the Orvis sales clearance website (and still won't sell)?

For the first person to post photo-documented proof of somebody actually wearing one of those pink jackets out in public, I'll buy them a drink on the next Fedora Lounge QM Event.

Mojave Jack
02-29-2008, 11:51 AM
Naw. That animal print hatband will go with anything!

We should start a pool to bet on how long it will be before that stuff shows up in the Tent Sale. $1 per day to place your bet, but bet early 'cause we'd probably only have to go out a couple weeks.

Hemingway Jones
02-29-2008, 12:00 PM
I LOVE this jacket: The Barbour Washed Twill Trooper Jacket. It is available on March 10th and I am going to grab it then. This is going to be my new travel and adventure jacket. (http://www.bennettsirongate.co.uk/outdoor-clothing-and-gear/barbour-mens-clothing/barbour-wax-jackets-and-outerwear/Barbour-T441-Light-Khaki/0/washed-twill-trooper-jacket/)

Mike K.
02-29-2008, 01:10 PM
That looks like a sweet jacket Tim.
You'll have to post photos once it arrives.

Hemingway Jones
02-29-2008, 01:16 PM
That looks like a sweet jacket Tim.
You'll have to post photos once it arrives.
Thanks, Mike. I hope so. I'll do a full review.

If you've noticed, Barbour is slowly heading upscale into the luxury market, but still retaining, thank heavens, the rustic country clothes we all know and love.

This jacket is based on vintage patterns, but has a modern tailored fit, which is what I am excited about. As you know, so many safaris are too big and baggy. The tailored fit and bi-swing back should make it much more comfortable and usuable for my travel and light-adventure purposes.

Serial Hero
02-29-2008, 01:25 PM
Naw. That animal print hatband will go with anything!

We should start a pool to bet on how long it will be before that stuff shows up in the Tent Sale. $1 per day to place your bet, but bet early 'cause we'd probably only have to go out a couple weeks.
From the last couple of catalogs I give Orvis One month, maybe two, before theyve made the full switch from selling outdoor gear and clothing to high end business casual.

Mojave Jack
02-29-2008, 02:59 PM
I LOVE this jacket: The Barbour Washed Twill Trooper Jacket. It is available on March 10th and I am going to grab it then. This is going to be my new travel and adventure jacket. (http://www.bennettsirongate.co.uk/outdoor-clothing-and-gear/barbour-mens-clothing/barbour-wax-jackets-and-outerwear/Barbour-T441-Light-Khaki/0/washed-twill-trooper-jacket/)
That looks like an outstanding jacket! I've been trying to find a decent waxed canvas jacket (the one from Outback Outlet didn't work out), but I am so hard on clothes that I balk at Barbour's prices. They sure are nice jackets, though. I left one of my Cabela's bush jackets somewhere between here and San Francisco last summer. They're so cheap as to be almost disposable, though, so I quickly replaced it.

Serial Hero, I have to agree with your take on Orvis, too. I suppose there may be some fishermen that will wear $200 pants in a creek in Montana, but they're obviously really meant for the boardroom or the yacht club. This Signature Piqu? Field Shirt (http://www.orvis.com/store/product_choice.asp?pf_id=1950&dir_id=885&group_id=2685&cat_id=5563&subcat_id=7237), however, is a nice option:

http://www.orvis.com/orvis_assets/prodimg/1950VBkhaki.jpg

This is something I would wear all summer, especially here at work. It breaks away from my usual canvas shirts and puts a little variation in my wardrobe, but still has the pockets that I like. I use my shirt pockets a lot, but my wife complains that I keep buying the same shirt over and over. She's right, of course! lol

RockBottom
02-29-2008, 03:15 PM
That looks like an outstanding jacket! I've been trying to find a decent waxed canvas jacket (the one from Outback Outlet didn't work out), but I am so hard on clothes that I balk at Barbour's prices. They sure are nice jackets, though. I left one of my Cabela's bush jackets somewhere between here and San Francisco last summer. They're so cheap as to be almost disposable, though, so I quickly replaced it.

Serial Hero, I have to agree with your take on Orvis, too. I suppose there may be some fishermen that will wear $200 pants in a creek in Montana, but they're obviously really meant for the boardroom or the yacht club. This Signature Piqu? Field Shirt (http://www.orvis.com/store/product_choice.asp?pf_id=1950&dir_id=885&group_id=2685&cat_id=5563&subcat_id=7237), however, is a nice option:

http://www.orvis.com/orvis_assets/prodimg/1950VBkhaki.jpg

This is something I would wear all summer, especially here at work. It breaks away from my usual canvas shirts and puts a little variation in my wardrobe, but still has the pockets that I like. I use my shirt pockets a lot, but my wife complains that I keep buying the same shirt over and over. She's right, of course! lol

Have you looked on Sierra Trading Post (http://www.sierratradingpost.com/d/11029_Men's-Waxed-Cotton-Jackets.html)? I got one of the "Oxford Blue" ones from them. I compared it to a buddy's Barbour. It's not as good but for 1/5th the price, is good enough. The John Partridge one they have also looks nice. If I hadn't just sprung for a new U.S. Wings A2, I'd be tempted.

Hemingway Jones
03-02-2008, 08:46 PM
That looks like an outstanding jacket! I've been trying to find a decent waxed canvas jacket (the one from Outback Outlet didn't work out), but I am so hard on clothes that I balk at Barbour's prices. They sure are nice jackets, though. I left one of my Cabela's bush jackets somewhere between here and San Francisco last summer. They're so cheap as to be almost disposable, though, so I quickly replaced it.


Jack, this one isn't waxed, it's a safari jacket with a bi-swing back and a tailored fit. It comes out on the 10th and I will be ordering it then.

I was in N Conway this weekend and I stopped in the Orvis outlet, which is nothing less than extraordinary. They truly have some high quality stuff.

So what did I buy?

I bought a quilted Barbour jacket for $75 and a realistic stuffed life-sized cheetah for $30! lol You'll be seeing him in future photoshoots! I named him "Baby." Not too creative there!

AlanC
03-02-2008, 11:02 PM
Hem, I look forward to your review of the Barbour.

Jerekson
03-03-2008, 12:41 AM
At any sign of adventure, this is my typical outfit. Akubra Federation, some custom shades (made from a vintage reading pair), an old dress shirt that breathes well and sheds dirt easily, my "field khakis" with a web belt, and my vintage work boots. It's a pretty flexible outfit; often times I will go ahead and add my old Army jacket, and, depending on the situation, a machete and LED flashlight will go on the belt. A BB gun in a flap holster is also an option, for snakes or rats, etc.

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o43/Lutso/Kev_portrait_38.png
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o43/Lutso/Kev_portrait_39.png
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o43/Lutso/Kev_scene_1.png

KeyGrip
03-03-2008, 01:22 AM
What kinda light?

Boodles
03-03-2008, 08:36 AM
Originally posted by scotrace
Does anyone know of some other source for Moleskin breeks other than the pricey Orvis models?
I have had good luck with a brand called Wathen Gardiner made, I think, in England. I have both the Orvis breeks as you show in your post and a pair made by Wathen Gardiner. Except that the Orvis version is a bit larger in the waist the breeks appear the same to me. Both are 36" but the Orvis is closer to 36.5" while the Gardiner is closer to 35.75." As my Orvis version indicates made in England I could believe both have the same origin, but that is a guess. I bought the Gardiner's from a OFAS vendor from whom I'd bought a moleskin vest. As I recall the Orvis version was $125 at the time and I bought the Gardiner's for right about $75. Unfortunately it's been 2 years and I don't still have the notes to use to locate the vendor.

Mojave Jack
03-03-2008, 09:53 AM
Jack, this one isn't waxed, it's a safari jacket with a bi-swing back and a tailored fit. It comes out on the 10th and I will be ordering it then.

That'll be a sharp jacket, indeed! I look forward to the full review...and pics, of course!


I was in N Conway this weekend and I stopped in the Orvis outlet, which is nothing less than extraordinary. They truly have some high quality stuff.

Ah, Orvis. This shot bears repeating.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/MojaveJack/johnzebrachairsm.jpg

Some day...


So what did I buy?

I bought a quilted Barbour jacket for $75 and a realistic stuffed life-sized cheetah for $30! lol You'll be seeing him in future photoshoots! I named him "Baby." Not too creative there!
Baby! That's classic! I would not have thought of that, I have to admit. That'll be an real conversation starter, though. You can tell visitors that you shot it in your pajamas.

Mojave Jack
03-03-2008, 09:55 AM
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o43/Lutso/Kev_portrait_38.png

Jerekson, I like those sunglasses. Can you post a close-up or two, as well as some details? Until I get my eyes lasered, I'm stuck with prescription shades, but I haven't found any frames I really like.

Thanks!

Story
03-03-2008, 11:18 AM
South Africa Allows Killing of Elephants
By CELEAN JACOBSON 6 days ago

PRETORIA, South Africa (AP) South Africa said Monday that it will start killing elephants to reduce their burgeoning numbers, ending a 13-year ban and possibly setting a precedent for other African nations.

Environment Minister Marthinus van Schalkwyk said the government was left with no choice but to reintroduce killing elephants "as a last option and under very strict conditions" to reduce environmental degradation and rising conflicts with humans.

There will be no "wholesale slaughter," he told reporters.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hUYjJJiZnA6gpuz-BtqIRWc2LQ9QD8V1ILAO0

Mike K.
03-03-2008, 11:36 AM
A BB gun in a flap holster is also an option, for snakes or rats, etc.
You'll shoot your eye out kid!

Sorry couldn't resist that one. :D

By the way, that's a great shot of you on the rocks with the cityscape behind.

Martinis at 8
03-03-2008, 12:48 PM
South Africa Allows Killing of Elephants
By CELEAN JACOBSON 6 days ago

PRETORIA, South Africa (AP) South Africa said Monday that it will start killing elephants to reduce their burgeoning numbers, ending a 13-year ban and possibly setting a precedent for other African nations.

Environment Minister Marthinus van Schalkwyk said the government was left with no choice but to reintroduce killing elephants "as a last option and under very strict conditions" to reduce environmental degradation and rising conflicts with humans.

There will be no "wholesale slaughter," he told reporters.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hUYjJJiZnA6gpuz-BtqIRWc2LQ9QD8V1ILAO0

I'm glad to hear this. They are running amok in Angola also. They trample all kinds of banana plantations, etc. And it's not like you can chase them away either. When they get pissed, watch out!

KeyGrip
03-03-2008, 03:00 PM
You'll shoot your eye out kid!


Not with those glasses he won't. I'd be surpirsed if the BB survived the impact.

Mr. Rover
03-03-2008, 03:58 PM
Cambodia's Angkor Wat

Dug up these pictures to commemorate the Indy IV trailer
One of the few occasions in the last few years I've done the full Indiana Jones look

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/WrongEra/CIMG5613.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b50/WrongEra/CIMG5600.jpg

Jerekson
03-03-2008, 05:30 PM
Not with those glasses he won't. I'd be surpirsed if the BB survived the impact.

Well, there is a reason that these are the pair I reach for at an adventure ;)

Mojave, this was a whole project I dreamed up a couple years ago and it worked out extraordinarily well. So if you want to do the same, I'd say go for it.
It's a really cool way to get a good vintage look with some level of customization, since you're picking out the frames yourself.

I got a pair of 30's or 40's reading glasses on eBay for $10.

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o43/Lutso/100_7365.jpg

I took them to the nearest eyewear dealer (I happen to know the girl that works there) and I got extra-dark polycarbonate polarized lenses put in. Costed around $60 for the lenses. Took about a week to get them back.
Here they are:

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o43/Lutso/Glasses_13.png
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o43/Lutso/Glasses_11.png
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o43/Lutso/Glasses_three.png
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o43/Lutso/Kev_portrait_27_2.png

Bruce Wayne
03-03-2008, 06:43 PM
by george, you are one sharp dressed kid (i use that word loosely as i am probally only a few years older than you)...

KeyGrip
03-03-2008, 07:34 PM
Man, Rover, that's spot on. What were the reactions from the rest of the tourists?

Mojave Jack
03-04-2008, 09:36 AM
Sharp, Jerekson! I've been looking on Ebay for frames, but they're always such a gamble. I finally pulled the trigger on a pair recently, but when I got them the frame had been soldered at some point in the past and no optometry shop would touch them. I think I'll just have to keep perusing the thrift shops for a good pair. The size you have is perfect for your face, though.

Mr. Rover
03-04-2008, 05:40 PM
Man, Rover, that's spot on. What were the reactions from the rest of the tourists?

Thanks! Not much of a reaction really...

Story
03-07-2008, 07:00 PM
Came across this relevant article -
http://www.jacksonholestartrib.com/articles/2008/03/06/features/open_spaces/5ca24a4d40f7dd5487257403005f174e.txt

And looked up the guy. Note that he (and others hunting in Africa) are unremarkable in dress.

http://www.montanarifleman.com/picts/JimMillsEland.jpg
http://www.montanarifleman.com/picts/Huguenardgemsbuck.jpg
http://www.montanarifleman.com/picts/odusch3.jpg

They definately need better hats. lol

Jerekson
03-07-2008, 07:49 PM
If they had worn hats, maybe thier foreheads wouldn't be quite so shiny. :p

Mike K.
03-08-2008, 04:26 PM
On the topic of plain dressing
Came across this relevant article -
And looked up the guy. Note that he (and others hunting in Africa) are unremarkable in dress.
Plain dress has its function. Light earth colors are remarkable camouflage for many African plains habitats (plain clothes for the plains). These colors also help conceal dust & dirt, and do well at keeping the intense sun at bay. Did you know they also help keep mosquitoes away? Those little flying suckers are attracted to color, especially that on the ultraviolet end of the spectrum. In other words, khakis are better than blue jeans. I work outside in the backcountry of southern Florida and these plain colors truly are what works best. You all are right though, they definitely need better hats! I'm guessing the backs of their necks are completely sunburned. A nice Akubra Riverina or Territory would make the look.

Man, would I'd give to bag a kudu like that!!
http://www.montanarifleman.com/picts/odusch3.jpg

cookie
03-08-2008, 09:55 PM
The story I've heard on the emu feather for the cav and mounted infantry units was that the troopers would display feats of horsemanship by pulling the feathers out from a running emu.

I hated wearing a beret. It was hot, didn't do a thing for the sun, and was a pain to get it to look like anything but a French baker's hat.

Interesting that they have an Assyrian winged bull emblem as used by troops in Mesopotamia c 1600BC!

LordJohnRoxton
03-11-2008, 01:12 PM
Gaiters seem to be a standard. I remember seeing an old photo of my great-grandfather wearing leather gaiters when they were building the Hoover Dam. I've always liked them! Does anyone know of a source for them?

Mojave Jack
03-11-2008, 06:40 PM
Lawrance Ordnance (http://www.lawranceordnance.com/khaki-and-green/uniforms-first-world-war.html) carries some, but I don't know anyone that actually has a pair.

http://www.lawranceordnance.com/khaki-and-green/images/equipment-be03/leggings.gif

I'd love to hear a review, because they're something I've considered many times.

They also carry the boots (http://www.lawranceordnance.com/khaki-and-green/footwear-first-world-war.html) to match.

http://www.lawranceordnance.com/khaki-and-green/images/footwear-first-world-war/boots.gif

Identical to those worn by Professor Challenger! ;)

Les Gillis
03-11-2008, 06:49 PM
Try this link. I have a pair on order that should be in soon. Shipper is known for having top notch products.

http://www.schipperfabrik.com/ami_gear.html

Les

Mike K.
03-11-2008, 07:17 PM
Gaiters seem to be a standard. I remember seeing an old photo of my great-grandfather wearing leather gaiters when they were building the Hoover Dam. I've always liked them! Does anyone know of a source for them?
I've got a pair of leather gaiters in outstanding condition. Not sure, but I think they date to WWI. I was just about to put them on eBay, but if you or anybody else is interested....
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e153/Lizard-of-Oz/Bq1045-2.jpg

LordJohnRoxton
03-12-2008, 10:51 AM
Try this link. I have a pair on order that should be in soon. Shipper is known for having top notch products.

http://www.schipperfabrik.com/ami_gear.html

Les

I like the look of those... they remind me a lot of the ones in the picture. What sort of boot would one wear with those. Would ammunition boots do?

Les Gillis
03-12-2008, 11:18 AM
I'd think any sort of period low boot would work.

I just got a call that my leggings arrived at my office. I'll let you know how they look when I finally get to see them.

Les

LordJohnRoxton
03-12-2008, 01:25 PM
I'd think any sort of period low boot would work.

I just got a call that my leggings arrived at my office. I'll let you know how they look when I finally get to see them.

Les


I look forward to hearing how they turned out!

Bruce Wayne
03-12-2008, 02:42 PM
I'd think any sort of period low boot would work.

I just got a call that my leggings arrived at my office. I'll let you know how they look when I finally get to see them.

Les
i want pics!!!;)

LordJohnRoxton
03-12-2008, 03:02 PM
Sharp, Jerekson! I've been looking on Ebay for frames, but they're always such a gamble. I finally pulled the trigger on a pair recently, but when I got them the frame had been soldered at some point in the past and no optometry shop would touch them. I think I'll just have to keep perusing the thrift shops for a good pair. The size you have is perfect for your face, though.

Have you tried The Grand Spectacle ( http://www.thegrandspectacle.com/ )?

Highlander
03-12-2008, 07:46 PM
Here, in a stream at the base of Arenal Volcano in Costa Rica, wearing my Stetson Panama hat, a twill shirt, hiking shorts and Merrell Hiking boots. With my ever faithful TAG/Heuer watch on my wrist.http://images31.fotki.com/v1093/free/c475d/8/848245/4709732/JungleRiver07SM-vi.jpg?1205375668

Hemingway Jones
03-12-2008, 08:42 PM
My Barbour Washed Twill Trooper came! I have never been so happy with a jacket. This jacket is tough, stylish, and so well-tailored. The fit is perfect. It's such a well-designed jacket that I could wear it classically or with a modern twist.

Plus, it is perfect for the field. It has huge pockets, zips up the front with a heavy brass zipper, and has buttons; so you don't need the zip. It has a semi-detached half-lining. I think the tailored jacket is an advantage in the field; none of that extra fabric to get caught on things.

I will post photos when I can. I cannot wait to wear this thing in May in Italy!

LordJohnRoxton
03-13-2008, 10:14 AM
I'm sure this might get touched on in other threads, but I also see it as an integral part of the adventurer's wardrobe... do any of you have preferred equipment of a more combative nature? Do any of the bold FL Adventurers have a preferred rifle for instance? I'm sure it really completes the outfit!

Mike K.
03-13-2008, 01:50 PM
I'm sure this might get touched on in other threads, but I also see it as an integral part of the adventurer's wardrobe... do any of you have preferred equipment of a more combative nature? Do any of the bold FL Adventurers have a preferred rifle for instance? I'm sure it really completes the outfit!
But of course!!

<--- Just check the avatar. That's "Matilda" at my side...single-shot, .30-30Win (although might be upgrading to a .45-70 barrel).

Not seen is a utilitarian pocket knife and a machete.

LordJohnRoxton
03-14-2008, 10:04 AM
I'm thinking of picking up a Steyr-Mannlicher M1895 this weekend. My weapons apparently need to be vintage ;) Does anybody have any opinions on that particular weapon?

Bernard Newman
03-14-2008, 10:37 AM
An relative of mine had a Mannlicher 95. He said that those rifles are very reliable and sturdy, but it requires quite a lot of maintenance. I've shot it once and I think that it has a considerable recoil (I was only used to shoot during military service), but I like the firing rate that the straight-pull bolt allows.
I'd go for it. (But as an Austrian I'm biased;))

Cheers,
Bernhard

LordJohnRoxton
03-14-2008, 10:42 AM
I had heard about the rate of fire... and a bit about the maintenance issue. Where is the maintenance concern? Is it the bolt? I'm trying to decide whether to pick up the Mannlicher this weekend...

rumblefish
03-14-2008, 11:09 AM
I'm thinking of picking up a Steyr-Mannlicher M1895 this weekend. My weapons apparently need to be vintage ;) Does anybody have any opinions on that particular weapon?



LordJohn...
I'm a big fan of Mannlicher Schoenauer, and I'd have a lot to say about their line from prewar to the MCAs. For the model you looking for the ony advice I have to offer is, find out how available ammo and/or reloading supplies are for the caliber of the gun you choose. If a rechambered version is OK with you, I'd go with 8MM Mauser.

LordJohnRoxton
03-14-2008, 11:35 AM
LordJohn...
I'm a big fan of Mannlicher Schoenauer, and I'd have a lot to say about their line from prewar to the MCAs. For the model you looking for the ony advice I have to offer is, find out how available ammo and/or reloading supplies are for the caliber of the gun you choose. If a rechambered version is OK with you, I'd go with 8MM Mauser.

Very good point! I'm looking at the 8x56mmR version... not quite certain about availability of the ammunition at present....

John in Covina
03-14-2008, 11:56 AM
Still in cosmoline! I have a Finnish M39 that was remanufactured by Sako. The Finns had captured so many Russian 1891 Moisan Nagant rifles that they had several of their rifle manufacturers upgrading them for use by the Finn Army and I think their version of the National Guard.

The M39 is a legendary rifle noted for superb accuracy. You can read about them on line. One of these days i will clean it up, do a refinish on the stock and contemplate scoping it as a long range rifle. I have not scoped any of my rifles.

When I take it apart to clean & refinish it I'll get to see the year of manufacture for the original bolt action, it could even be pre-1900.

LordJohnRoxton
03-14-2008, 12:15 PM
There is a pretty good deal for the M91/30 Moisin-Nagant as well.... but I wonder if I shouldn't prefer the Mannlicher...

rumblefish
03-14-2008, 12:20 PM
Very good point! I'm looking at the 8x56mmR version... not quite certain about availability of the ammunition at present....
I believe the 7.62x54 Russian can be sized to 8x56R, dies probably can still be found.

Keep us posted!

Story
03-17-2008, 12:53 PM
I'm thinking of picking up a Steyr-Mannlicher M1895 this weekend. My weapons apparently need to be vintage ;) Does anybody have any opinions on that particular weapon?

Current prices on the carbines are still bargains, as they are generally in arsenal-refinished condition and the only work required is a detailed stripping-and-cleaning. On many, the actions are just machine-slick and feel like a bank vault door.

The 8x56R RECOIL is stiff in the carbine, to be polite.

Surplus ammunition used to be direct cheap, now it's not. The M95 magazine also requires stripper clips, which can be pricey.

Ball, w/ stripper clips
http://www.impactguns.com/store/steyr_8x56r_ammo.html
Hunting rounds, no strippers
http://www.cabelas.com/prod-1/0037464215974a.shtml


A potential long-term project is to use the action as the basis of a sporter, with a different caliber barrel and perhaps magazine.

To keep this On-Topic, the Italians inheritted several hundred thousands M95s (in different configurations) after WWI and shipped them to East Africa, as part of Mussolini's "One Million Bayonets" program. We all know how that turned out. lol

After Italians surrendered Addis Ababa in 1941, the Commonwealth collected up what weaponry they could for re-issue. However, the 'shifta' (bandits) and 'patriots' (pro- Halle Selassie rebels) kept whatever they could get their hands on. Good chance that your standard Bad Guy in a post-WWII Safari movie would be toting around a Steyr (or Carcano or Mauser).
http://history.farmersboys.com/Battle_Honours/eritrea.htm
(The height of post-war Eritrean bandit fashion. Note the swanky head-turbans)
http://history.farmersboys.com/images/COs/eritre9.jpg

Read up on the Steyr straight-pulls here
http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/viewforum.php?f=30&sid=6cf762ca557e91efd0d624907ed5ce8b

Moison Nagants and 7.62x54R are cheap, but they're generally not as nice as the Steyrs.

Mojave Jack
03-18-2008, 03:39 PM
My Barbour Washed Twill Trooper came! I have never been so happy with a jacket. This jacket is tough, stylish, and so well-tailored. The fit is perfect. It's such a well-designed jacket that I could wear it classically or with a modern twist.

Plus, it is perfect for the field. It has huge pockets, zips up the front with a heavy brass zipper, and has buttons; so you don't need the zip. It has a semi-detached half-lining. I think the tailored jacket is an advantage in the field; none of that extra fabric to get caught on things.

I will post photos when I can. I cannot wait to wear this thing in May in Italy!
Hey, Jones! Where are those pics?! ;)

Hemingway Jones
03-18-2008, 04:35 PM
Hey, Jones! Where are those pics?! ;)
Sorry, Ol'Boy.
The jacket is awesome! I have been so busy taking photos of others that I haven't jumped in front of the camera myself. But I will!

Serial Hero
03-21-2008, 11:15 AM
J.L. Powell

I received a catalog from these guys yesterday
http://jlpowellusa.com/label-1/10-J-L-Powell.html?gclid=CPjzn7TjnpICFSAWawodFGo1_A

They have some nice looking stuff, but its way out of my price range.

I like the 1:48 scale Endurance but I dont have a room (or pocket book) big enough.
http://jlpowellusa.com/product/40-Gallery/411-J-L-Powell-Endurance-Model.html

LordJohnRoxton
03-22-2008, 05:58 PM
Does anyone know a source for swiss mountain boots? I know that they're often used by reenactors for a gebirgsjager impression.....

Mike K.
03-24-2008, 01:21 PM
Don't know if you all have seen this one before, but it looks like a pretty nice hunting/safari vest.

http://www.boytharness.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=95&products_id=411

http://www.boytharness.com/catalog/extra_large_images/SA500.jpg

LordJohnRoxton
03-24-2008, 01:28 PM
It never ends!

Baggers
03-24-2008, 02:57 PM
Don't know if you all have seen this one before, but it looks like a pretty nice hunting/safari vest.

http://www.boytharness.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=95&products_id=411


I'm kinda liking the bush jacket (http://www.boytharness.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=95&products_id=412). I like the price as well!

http://www.boytharness.com/catalog/extra_large_images/SA600.jpg
Cheers!

LordJohnRoxton
03-24-2008, 03:19 PM
Now THAT I like!

Mojave Jack
03-24-2008, 04:28 PM
Baggers! Good to see you again! Where the devil have you been, old chap?!

Mike K.
03-24-2008, 04:46 PM
Welcome back Baggers!

I like that jacket too. Actually there's a short-sleeve version that is also made. I was wondering what would be better - the vest or the short-sleeve jacket made into a vest. What do you all think?

Here's the short-sleeve jacket. Picture it without any sleeves.
By the way, MidwayUSA has much better prices than anyone else on these items!

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e153/Lizard-of-Oz/highresimage.jpg http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e153/Lizard-of-Oz/highresimage_2.jpg

For the lady adventurers, there's also one made for you!

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e153/Lizard-of-Oz/5302311.gif

This was lifted off another site so never mind the custom embroidery.

Baggers
03-24-2008, 07:48 PM
Mojave, Mike, thanks for the welcome. I've been missing this place. As for my absence, I've been lurking, but haven't had much time to participate in the conversation. Things are easing up, so I should be able to get back into the game.

I went to MidwayUSA, and you're right, Mike, the prices there are unbelievable compared to Boyt. I'm leaning towards the short sleeve bush jacket, but the sleeves look cavernous. They look as if they have an underarm gusset that the long sleeve version doesn't seem to have. Also, the take up tabs seem totally superfluous on something that already has short sleeves. I do like the waist adjusting tabs, though. I'll sleep on it and decide in the morning.

I also have a question regarding which repro of the M1883 campaign hat I should get, but I'll post over in the Hats Section and see if Deanglen notices.

Cheers!

Mike K.
03-25-2008, 06:27 AM
Also, the take up tabs seem totally superfluous on something that already has short sleeves. I do like the waist adjusting tabs, though.
Yep, I agree. Maybe those sleeve tabs are meant to attach to the epaulette in order to turn the whole think into a tank top. lol
I wish the vest had the waist tabs too (it's probably the one I'll go with).

Mojave Jack
03-25-2008, 07:52 AM
I don't know, Mike, that jacket would make an excellent vest, and with a price difference of only $9, the top pockets and waist adjustment tabs, plus the inside pocket, might be worth it. Of course, you'd have to factor in the cost of having the sleeves removed, unless you can do it yourself (which I could, I suppose, but not very well! lol). I've been watching for a decent jacket on eBay that I could truncate into a vest, but none have all the features of the Boyt.

Baggers, I hope some of your lurking has been in my Marine Corps Campaign Hat thread! (http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?p=535213#post535213#cbfg535213) The hat I started with was a Resistol 3X beaver. Not a great hat, but only cost me $16 and a little work. Still trying to find the right ribbon, and I have to punch out the snowflake vet, but so far I'm pretty happy with the results. Now for that Krag .30-40....

Feraud
03-25-2008, 08:22 AM
This site (http://www.rosings.com/almasy.html) feature photographs that should be of interest.

Baggers
03-25-2008, 01:23 PM
Okay, I went with the long sleeved version in khaki from MidwayUSA. At 76 bucks (including shipping and 50 cents for the NRA roundup donation) it was a steal compared to Boyt's pricing. I'll post my impressions when it arrives.

Mojave, I looked at your thread, and you've done a great job with that Resistol so far. What got me interested is that the wife and I visited Fort Davis in West Texas for the first time last week and they have a restored Army post down there. I had a chat with one of the period uniformed volunteers who was wearing a repro M1883 that he'd gotten from Limpia Creek Hat Co. (http://www.limpiacreekhats.com/) right there in Fort Davis. Needless to say, after handling his, "I just had to get me of of THESE (to paraphrase Will Smith in Independence Day)" and hastened thither to fondle the sample in the shop. Discretion being the better part of valor, I didn't order one on the spot, but decided to see first what wisdom the Lounge had to offer. Of note, the ones I saw In Fort Davis had a single brass wire mesh ventilator on each side, not simple punched holes in a pattern. They also had two rows of brim stitching.

And don't get me started on Krags, I haven't got enough room in the safe for all the Enfields I already own! :D

Cheers!

LordJohnRoxton
03-25-2008, 01:27 PM
Has anyone here seen the American Mountain Ski Boots put out by What Price Glory? I'm wondering if they are any good...

http://www.whatpriceglory.com/usboot.htm

Baggers
03-25-2008, 02:02 PM
Has anyone here seen the American Mountain Ski Boots put out by What Price Glory? I'm wondering if they are any good...

http://www.whatpriceglory.com/usboot.htm

I can't make any comments about his mountain boots specifically, but I have two or three of his other styles and am quite satisfied with the fit and quality, especially the officer's russet low quarters and the M1940 Mounted Boots. Jerry offers excellent value for the dollar.

Cheers!

LordJohnRoxton
03-25-2008, 02:43 PM
I understand that the British officer's ammunition boots are too thin for heavy outdoor use.... I was hoping for something that I could wear with leather gaiters...