The Adventurer's Gear Thread

[Matt Deckard]

I have alot of huge stuff in the closet, luckily some was ruined from excursions so I didn't feel all too bad for getting rid of the kit.

Even the leathers are too big... So I guess it's cotten and linen til I get refit.

Here is my latest gettup I put together... where's yours?

http://images17.fotki.com/v306/photos/8/83243/318568/JungleMatt-vi.jpg

[jml90]

What kind of hat?

[Matt Deckard]

Akubra Slouch Digger Whatchamacallit... you know, The brits used to issue them back in the Boar War.

[BellyTank]

They still issue them in the Commonwealth-

B
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[Hemingway Jones]

Well, here's mine, though I would wear a different hat in the field:
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/210/adv6ej.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And here I am in the field; at Lamanai in Belize:
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7194/adv29th.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
I have on linen pants, a safari shirt, Swiss Army backpack, and an Adventurebilt. ;)

As Matt and I were discussing, it will be more English Colonial looks in my future. Stewart Granger is my hero.
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/9458/grangerstewartphotostewartgran.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Dixon Cannon]

...Here is my latest gettup I put together... where's yours?

Mid 1980's, North coast of Spainhttp://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/dixon-cannon/6eb2ba7b.jpg

A little later, Grand Canyon
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/dixon-cannon/c43cdc5a.jpg

[Mike K.]

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e153/Lizard-of-Oz/cap017.jpg

[Matt Deckard]

nice rifle

[Havana]

Here's a pic showing me in some of my older stuff. I have since updated my hat and jacket. My possibles bag is under the jacket. http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e397/templr/CS-1.jpg

[The Wolf]

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/4396/safari8at.jpg

for all my safaris

The Wolf

[Matt Deckard]

Now that's the ticket... Safari all the way. I need a big fat pith helmut. I have the hats, though I haven't found the right pith. I have a smaller not so cool lookin one that's very much Like you Indy's nemesis wearing in Raiders, though it doesn't suit me.

[Baggers]

Looking good Matt!

I have a couple of pairs of Filson's safari cloth poplin trousers as well as a shirt. I also recently added some of their feather cloth short sleeve shirts to the wardrobe, just the job for the hot, humid weather beginning to rear it's ugly head here in Texas. I also have an older pattern Filson bush jacket that I like a lot. Add a plain brown leather belt, my Courtney kudu skin suede "vellies" or my Aldens, an Akubra slouch hat with a proper British center crease and I'm good to go. I also have a Tilley T3 for when the weather gets really hot.

I've also have a pair of Orvis desert boots, but I never wear them around here for fear the light colored crepe rubber soles will get blackened from all the city soot. I'm saving those for trips into the desert southwest where the dirt is, well, desert colored. ;)

I've got a couple of pith helmets as well. A Repro Wolesley from WPG, and a more traditionally shaped one made in Zimbabwe, but those are more for "fancy dress" than for real use. I've also got a repro Foreign Service helmet, like the ones worn in "Zulu," but that one is really just a costume piece that I bought to wear in a theatrical production I was in a couple of years ago.

Cheers!

[Tourbillion]

Here's some inspiration for you guys from the old family photo files. What I wouldn't give for my great-aunties jodhpurs...

http://static.flickr.com/52/152367032_d3af30ef4b.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/56/152367033_34042bf6d1.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/51/152367034_69e08a139b.jpg

[Kodiak]

I've always liked to look at myself as an "adventurer" of sorts. I've always loved "adventuring" gear. I've also always liked to dream of Africa and India in the Victorian era of high adventure.

To keep a long thread shorter, what are your opinions on vintage adventuring gear, from any time period? What "outfits" have you put together, and where have you gotten the pieces from?

[Spatterdash]

Ya know, your best bet might be to simply brew a pot of coffee, sit down and pull up the Search feature here at the Lounge.

You'll find a lot of commentary and sources for items like:
Safari Jackets
Safari Slacks
Knickers
Pith Helmets
Boots
Gaiters
Leather goods (braces, belts, holsters, bags, vests, jackets, gloves)
Hats
Oilskin Coats
Khaki/safari shirts

You'll even find some handy items by looking into "Travel or "Outdoor".
There is so much here. Get ready to start a list and keep Google handy for those times someone mentions something in an archived thread with no link.

[Hemingway Jones]

Kodiak is asking about the full kit and what inspiration people have had to complete theirs. It is separate enough from any existing topic, though many touch upon it.

[Mr_Misanthropy]

You know, I just started reading a book called "Into Africa". It's about Dr. Livingstone and Henry Morgan Stanley. So far it's very good. I'm amazed how enthralled the Victorian world was with exploration. It's hard to believe that just 150 years ago most of Africa was considered "savage land".

Anyway, it's got me thinking all about safaris and exploring and all that fun stuff. I'm interested to see where this topic goes. I personally don't really have any "gear", but I'll keep my eyes peeled for some links to share.

[Spatterdash]

Kodiak is asking about the full kit and what inspiration people have had to complete theirs. It is separate enough from any existing topic, though many touch upon it.

Well when it comes to inspiration, the first thing I always picture is Michael Caine in "Shaka Zulu"
More military than exploratory, though.
Maybe a list of films with accurate clothing would help get things rolling. Once that's done Kodiak can concentrate on a particular outfit piece by piece.

[Ken]

Dont forget the other extremes of adventures:

Shackleton, Scott, Mallory...

Ken

[Haversack]

Exactly. Your gear and kit will vary with where you are adventuring. Read some Jack London or Robert Service to get an idea what was taken into the Yukon.

Haversack

[Serial Hero]

I guess every ones in that safari/ adventurer mind set lately. Within the last week I’ve picked up both “Green Hills of Africa” by Hemingway, and the film, “King Solomon’s Mines” (the 50’s version).

["Doc" Devereux]

I guess every ones in that safari/ adventurer mind set lately. Within the last week I’ve picked up both “Green Hills of Africa” by Hemingway, and the film, “King Solomon’s Mines” (the 50’s version).

Well, it's a lot easier to find a cravat that works with bush gear than it is to find one that sets off a sealskin two-piece. :p

[Mojave Jack]

Speaking of a little inspiration, those of you that have the History International channel, you might want to check out Amazon Adventures on Monday night (21 August). I haven't seen it, but it looks good, and has a section on Teddy Roosevelt's exploits.

[Flitcraft]

Thanks for the tip!
"Digging for the Truth" had a show 2 weeks ago that focused on Percy Fawcett- which of course has re-kindled my interest in his exploits.
Interestingly enough, they depicted Fawcett clad in white riding attire- breeches, shirt, riding boots and panama hat- instead of khaki jungle uniform. Anyone have any idea on how accurate this might be.

[Kodiak]

Thanks. Film lists would be nice, but I'd also appreciate screengrabs from various films if you have them. I've been trying to get some Quatermain-esque gear going.

So far, just to let you know what is somewhat set in stone, this is what I've got my heart set on:

-Digging For The Truth-style hat, BB shell (yep, Beaver Brand) from Lee Keppler, who does indeed make these.
-Safari jacket, possibly by Magnoli, if not by my grandma/other retailer.
-Safari shirt, I'd like it in a white or off-white color, but safari shirts are safari shirts.
-Corcoran II Jump Boots, which are more for actual use than costuming, as is all of this stuff. They have speedhooks, treaded soles, etc.
-WWII US Army Mussette Bag, this item I already have.

And I'd like to find some of those "cowboy bracers" like what was discussed in the Sean Connery's gunbelt thread. (any links would be greatly appreciated on that one).

Other than that, up for grabs, especially concerning trousers. Any comments about the above or about pants are appreciated.

[Hemingway Jones]

I guess every ones in that safari/ adventurer mind set lately. Within the last week I’ve picked up both “Green Hills of Africa” by Hemingway, and the film, “King Solomon’s Mines” (the 50’s version).
Two of my favorites. Enjoy them both!

...but safari shirts are safari shirts....
On the contrary, my good man!

Though I dearly want the white safari shirt from Orvis, I have to tell you a little story about this weekend in NH. Daisy and I got out of the Jeep in the Mountains and she was instantly besieged by bugs, just covered. Me; I only had a few buzzing around the brim of my Panama.

She said to me, "These bugs must be bothering you!"

I didn't know what she was talking about. Then I realized, I was wearing my short sleeve safari shirt from LL Bean and it was treated at the molecular level with Buzz Off. It actually worked! I was amazed.

I thought you should know this. :)

[Lancealot]

:offtopic: For some rather interesting true life adventure reading pick up some of Peter Chapsticks works. "Death In The Lonely Places" is very good and has some right ups on turn of the century adventurers.

[Haversack]

Kodiak wrote:
"I've always liked to look at myself as an "adventurer" of sorts. I've always loved "adventuring" gear. I've also always liked to dream of Africa and India in the Victorian era of high adventure."

If I may direct your attention to an organization still in existance which was founded specifically to make use of men with experience of life beyond the black stump who were unsuited by age and/or temperment to the regimented life in the military: The Legion of Frontiersmen.

Here's a link to a book about their history with many photos of its earlier members in their gear.
http://www.frontiersmenhistorian.info/index.htm

Here's a link to a site with more about their current status:
http://www.regiments.org/regiments/uk/specfor/frontier.htm

Haversack.

[Kodiak]

@Hemingway- my dad has one of the BuzzOff hats from Orvis. He rarely wears it, but it kept the bugs off when we were kayaking the estuaries in Florida. Bugs don't really bother me too much though, except on my lower legs when I go through tall grass.

PS- is the Orvis too small for you too?

@Lancealot- not off topic at all old lad! I'm actually getting ready to do a mass Barnes and Noble order (right now actually) and one of his titles is on the list, along with a Richard Halliburton novel, and Allan Quatermain.

King Solomon's Mines is the best adventure book ever written. Period. End of story. I've never seen the movie though. Is it available on DVD?

@Haversack- thanks for that. I've actually never heard of those folks. I'll have to check them out, if nothing else because I am not suited to the regimented life of the military. And no, I'm not kidding with you. :eek:

As far as white safari shirts goes, I'm sure Magnoli could fix me one up in a jiffy.

[Lancealot]

Well you can't go wrong with Peter. When reading one it's very easy to imagine yourself setting around a campfire and listening to him recounting the hunt of the day.

I also enjoyed the Allan Quatermain. Also check out she by Ridder.

[Haversack]

Here's an excerpt from the Legion's history describing the clothes the group wore"

"The Legion decided on a uniform by getting the London Frontiersmen together in the dress they would themselves wear on the frontier. The result was remarkably similar, varying only in the weight of cloth suitable for the climate theman was accustomed to. It became a slouch hat, loose navy or khaki shirt, neckerchief, riding breeches and boots with bandolier or revolver. Eventually the B-P hat as worn by the Scouts and the Canadian Mounted Police, or the slouchhat, became universal. The motto adapted and used even today on the badge,was "God Guard Thee", said to be the engraving on the ring found on General Gordon's body."

Regarding _King Solomon's Mines and Allan Quartermain: Haggard modeled Quartermain on the great hunter F. C. Selous. Selous was a member of the Legion of Frontiersmen and was killed fighting the Germans in East Africa. By way of coincidence, the father of the author, George MacDonald Fraser, was the medical officer, (i.e. Doctor), who buried F.C. Selous.

Haversack.

[Mojave Jack]

For some rather interesting true life adventure reading pick up some of Peter Chapsticks works. "Death In The Lonely Places" is very good and has some right ups on turn of the century adventurers.
I'm not familiar with his writings, but I do use his lip balm. ;)

I agree, Kodiak! Great info, Haversack! How the heck do we join? Or do you have to be recruited?

Kodiak, Haggard has a number of novels about Quatermain; you may consider getting one of the collected volumes (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0486206432/sr=1-1/qid=1155855016/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-7833162-9871162?ie=UTF8&s=books). Once you read one you'll want to read more. You may also want to read Lost World (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0812564839/sr=1-2/qid=1155855128/ref=pd_bbs_2/104-7833162-9871162?ie=UTF8&s=books); the Doyle novle, not the Crichton. Really worth while, and Doyle said he preferred the George Challenger character to Holmes, despite the popularity of the latter. Also, definately read The Maneaters of Tsavo (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0312510101/sr=1-1/qid=1155854968/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-7833162-9871162?ie=UTF8&s=books), if you haven't already. It is made all the better by being true. The Peter Capstick Library edition is an exact reprint of the original, which even makes it more fun to read.

[Hemingway Jones]

...PS- is the Orvis too small for you too?

...King Solomon's Mines is the best adventure book ever written. Period. End of story. I've never seen the movie though. Is it available on DVD?

Orvis, I don't know; I haven't bought it yet. I am 6'2" and 200 with a 44" chest. I would hope they would fit me.

And yes, Stewart Granger's version of "King Solomon's..." is on DVD. I watch mine often. It was about $10 at deepdiscountdvd with free shipping.

[Lancealot]

I'm not familiar with his writings, but I do use his lip balm. ;)]



The Maneaters of Tsavo (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0312510101/sr=1-1/qid=1155854968/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-7833162-9871162?ie=UTF8&s=books), if you haven't already. It is made all the better by being true. The Peter Capstick Library edition is an exact reprint of the original, which even makes it more fun to read.

What's a typo between friends. [huh]



The Maneaters of Tsavo are also covered in "Death In The Lonely Places" it's his research into either famous maneaters or famous hunter/adeventurers.

[Kodiak]

;) I think you have to be a Brit to join. Maybe I'll email them. I'm conviced they are "officially" a pretty neato group; H. Rider Haggard was a member.

Speaking of Haggard, I would buy a collection, but the ones collected are always King Solomon's Mines, She: A History of Adventure, and some other title that varies. Unfortunately, I've already bought the first two. I have vaguely heard of Lost World, but I've never read it. Time to B&N search (I use them because I have a membership).

Hemingway... oh... please, don't hurt me ;) Where did you find KSM (Rich. Granger) for $10!?

And I'm assuming that they named the Selous area of Africa after this captain? Is a bio available that I could read up on him?

@Lancealot- She by Ridder? To you mean the one I mentioned above?

[Hemingway Jones]

Hemingway... oh... please, don't hurt me ;) Where did you find KSM (Rich. Granger) for $10!?
Well, it's $13.37, which is not quite $10, but it's free shipping. (http://www.deepdiscountdvd.com/dvd.cfm?itemID=WBD067225)

[Kodiak]

Well, it's $13.37, which is not quite $10, but it's free shipping. (http://www.deepdiscountdvd.com/dvd.cfm?itemID=WBD067225)

What a cad! Thanks Hemingway.

As far as Selous goes...

Frederick Courteney Selous (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Selous)

Sounds like Quatermain through and through!

[Serial Hero]

And yes, Stewart Granger's version of "King Solomon's..." is on DVD. I watch mine often. It was about $10 at deepdiscountdvd with free shipping.:eek: I payed $19.00 :eusa_doh:

Another good book for inspiration:
Dragon Hunter: Roy Chapman Andrews and the Central Asiatic Expeditions

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/0142000760

[Mojave Jack]

What's a typo between friends. [huh]
Well, persnoally I nevr make typoes, so I cant' say. lol I've gone back and seen some of my fat-fingered posts and just had to laugh. I use the Columbus typing method: find a key and land on it, so I depend heavily on spellcheck and proofreading!

Byron Khun de Prorok is another adventurer I like to read. He traveled all over North Africa, and though he was basically a looter, most archaeologists of the time were, so I don't hold it against him. I think he's been criticized for inflating his adventures a bit, and giving himself more credit than due, but he's a good writer and his books are excellent. He also took a lot of pictures, so his books are pretty well illustrated.

http://www.eloka.com/main/author/Narrative-CountByron.jpg

[Lancealot]

@Lancealot- She by Ridder? To you mean the one I mentioned above?[/QUOTE]

That's the one. I meant to type Haggard. Sorry it's been a long day

[Kodiak]

@Lancealot- She by Ridder? To you mean the one I mentioned above?

That's the one. I meant to type Haggard. Sorry it's been a long day[/QUOTE]

No worries. That was my first from Haggard, actually.

[Nick Charles]

Kodiak, dor the money you can't beat a pair of cowboy cuffs from Wild West Mercatile.

http://www.wwmerc.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?item=WW58&type=store&category=10300

They are really tuff.

My new outfit consists of

Wolsley Pith Helmet Khaki
Bills Khakis Gurkha Pants
Orvis India Officers shirt
Orvis Safari Jacket(hopefully)
Chipeewa captoe boots.
Either my 1911 or Colt SAA revolver and single barrel shotgun.

[Mojave Jack]

Another good book for inspiration:
Dragon Hunter: Roy Chapman Andrews and the Central Asiatic Expeditions

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/0142000760
That is a great book. Really well written and a real page turner. I loved the story about Andrews encountering the bandits while driving through a canyon. He saw a reflection off a gun barrel or piece of gear of the scout at the rim of the canyon, and knew that the main party of bandits was waiting at the end to bushwhack him. So he just pulled out his Colt and stepped on the gas. He came flying out of the end of the canyon, and caught the bandits by surpise with his .45 blazing over the windshield of the Dodge! Now that's the spirit!


Orvis Safari Jacket(hopefully)
Nick, I was looking on Orvis for their jacket for the Elusive Safari Jacket (http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?t=11072)thread, and found that they aren't (currently) offering one! I was just about to sing the praises of mine, too. Flitcraft mentioned the Kevin's jacket, though, a company I had totally forgotten about. Still not offered in a Tall, however.

By the way, how about a few pics of the abovementioned gear?!

[Nick Charles]

The stuff hasn't arrived yet. Just bought the pants 8/17 helmet today shirt8/19 and the jacket is better keep that to me until its mine. Boots are from sportsmans guide.

http://image.sportsmansguide.com/dimage/68277m3_ts.JPG?cell=320,320&cvt=jpeg

When they are all here I'll snap a couple of shots.

[Serial Hero]

the jacket is better keep that to me until its mine.
Welcome to the cut throat world of vintage and adventure cloths.;)

[Mojave Jack]

The stuff hasn't arrived yet. Just bought the pants 8/17 helmet today shirt8/19 and the jacket is better keep that to me until its mine. Boots are from sportsmans guide.

http://image.sportsmansguide.com/dimage/68277m3_ts.JPG?cell=320,320&cvt=jpeg

When they are all here I'll snap a couple of shots.
Check! Good luck!

I look forward to your review of the Bill's Khakis and the Orvis shirt. I've eyed that shirt several times, but it doesn't come in a tall. Plus I get the usual from the wife, "That shirt looks just like all your others!" She just doesn't get the subtlety of it all!

Those boots look good, too. They look like WWII Army service boots, just in a slightly different color. The sole looks spot on. Good price?

[Serial Hero]

I had these book marked but it took me a while to find them:eusa_doh:

http://www.umich.edu/~bhl/bhl/digpubs/anthro/kelsey.htm

Kelsey Museum expedition staff Kos Aushim, 1926.
http://images.umdl.umich.edu/cgi/i/image/image-idx?;c=bhl&ei=1&quality=2&view=entry&subview=detail&cc=bhl&entryid=x-bl006424

http://images.umdl.umich.edu/cgi/i/image/image-idx?;c=bhl&ei=1&quality=1&view=entry&subview=detail&cc=bhl&entryid=x-bl006411

http://www.umich.edu/~bhl/bhl/digpubs/anthro/guthe.htm

[Mojave Jack]

Those are great photos, SH! Thanks for posting those! Times have really changed, though. If anybody sat on the edge of a unit with their foot up like that guy at the Starved Rock dig, they'd most likely get stuck with a sharp trowel these days! And why the heck are they using their screen in the unit?!

I'm going to be in Ann Arbor next week, and I haven't been to the Kelsey in years. I may have to swing by while I'm in town...and stop by Ashley's next door for a beer afterwards. Ummm. Newcastle on tap. :beer:

[Kodiak]

Dragon Hunter is soon to be on the list of texts for me to consume.

Nick- thanks for that link. Here's a simple enough question: what color should I go for? I think pesos would be too much...

Well, when a jacket and my hat gets here, I will take pics for you all. Thanks for the help.

[Mojave Jack]

Kodiak, if you like the look of the Corcoran jump boots, you might consider these (http://www.llbean.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?page=gore-tex-kangaroo-upland-boots&categoryId=43341&storeId=1&catalogId=1&langId=-1&parentCategory=9942&cat4=9906&shop_method=pp&feat=9942-tn).

http://www.llbean.com/products/mens/43341/images/M43341_Brown.jpg

Given that you're in Kentucky, the Goretex might be a nice feature, which the Corcoran's don't sport. They're also LL Bean, so they're guaranteed for life.

Add to that the fact that they are made from kangaroo leather, and well, they have adventure written all over them!

[boomerchop]

;) I think you have to be a Brit to join. Maybe I'll email them. I'm conviced they are "officially" a pretty neato group; H. Rider Haggard was a member.



I found this while looking at info from their centenary parade:

Following the Centenary Conference of the Frontiersmen on Saturday 23rd April 2005, a Centennial Service was held at the Church of St. Botolph Without Bishopsgate, London on the following day at 2 p.m. by kind permission of the Rector. In attendance was the Patron of the Legion of Frontiersmen (Countess Mountbatten's Own), The Countess Mountbatten. Mounted Frontiersmen from Britain and Canada had ridden through London from the Royal Mews and led a march of the Frontiersmen through the City of London to the Guildhall Yard, where the Colours were Trooped and the Parade inspected by The Countess Mountbatten. Here are some photographs of this historical and inspiring day. More photographs of the event will be added in due course. In attendance were Frontiersmen from very many countries including Canada, Australia, New Zealand, The United States of America and Portugal. An organisation founded one hundred years ago due to the patriotism and community spirit of one man, Roger Pocock, has proved its worth and continues to do so.

[Kodiak]

@Mojave- thanks for that link. These aren't all that much more than the Corcoran boots I was going to get, so I might just buy them instead. The only thing I don't like is the canvas inserts, but that isn't too bad. The Goretex would be nice.

As far as those Frontiersmen go, I've read some more on them, and they are really more of a ceremonial unit now. Their most recent pictures showed them helping old guys into cars, when the frontiersman looked older than the guy that needed help :eusa_doh:

[Nick Charles]

HERE is the Jacket from that most evil of auctions

http://i22.ebayimg.com/06/i/08/09/70/21_1.JPG

http://i7.ebayimg.com/04/i/08/06/f6/b5_1.JPG

[The Mad Hatter]

Don't forget rain gear.

I personally recommend the Driza Bone long riding coat or some equivalent oilskin duster.

Driza Bone and several other vendors make oilskin hats.

[Kodiak]

Nice jacket Mr. Charles. Any chance that's my size? :eusa_doh:

Mad Hatter... I've thought about rain gear but I'm really not out in it enough to merit buying such a jacket just yet. Hat, boots and safari jacket are higher up on the list, so to speak.

[Matt Deckard]

bump
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[Flitcraft]

What's that jacket you're wearing in the first pic, Mr. Deckard?

[Nick Charles]

OK I'd have to say if youa re a 7 1/4 or smaller head size and want a pith helmet Go to the Village Hat shop and get the Wolseley Pith. It says they run small and the is only a little room but they will 7-7 1/4 great. Mine just came and the little adjuster is all the way to the end. If I cut it and sew them together it would look like it was sized for me. Light weight and good quality.
my 2 cents.

[Ken]

How is this for some adventure gear prob worn by one of my all time favourite adventurer's

http://gfx.dagbladet.no/magasinet/2003/05/06/mallory1.jpg

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/everest/exposure/gear.html

http://www.trekking24.com/lhakpari/wp-content/themes/connections/images/everest1924-gruppe-mallory.jpg

Ken

[Doug C]

That's a couple of cool pictures Ken - and this brings another adventure gear item to mind. I know this thread is about gear you wear but I'd also like to find a vintage (or repro) canvas tent for back by the pool. I'd probably leave it up during the warm months. I'm talking about like a safari sized number, not a pup-tent. Maybe fill it with safari furniture. Thing is, I don't know the first thing about what to look for from the Army/Navy store tents and nobody ever seems very interested in helping at those places.

Doug C

[Baggers]

Doug,
Take a peek at Tentsmiths (http://www.tentsmiths.com/period-tents-wall-tents.html). They may have what you're looking for.

Cheers!

[Story]

OK I'd have to say if youa re a 7 1/4 or smaller head size and want a pith helmet Go to the Village Hat shop and get the Wolseley Pith. .

A whole thread of Pith.
http://thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?t=8180&highlight=pith

[Doug C]

Thanks Baggers - this (taken from your link) is what I'm talking about.. but man, the price!!! who would have guessed.

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/8896/wwiitent3ax1.jpg

Doug C

[carebear]

Cabelas sells canvas wall tents and fly tents as well. Wear, simulated or actual, is what will give the authenticity. Canvas is canvas, change out nylon for natural on the cordage and you're all set.

[Doug C]

Oh - well, that gives me an excuse to visit the Cabelas they've built fairly close to me.. I haven't been yet. Thanks.

Doug C

[carebear]

I've never been in a Cabela's store, I get the catalog. You may end up having to look in a catalog.

[Nick Charles]

Try these. Good prices too.
http://www.fcsutler.com/fccanvas.asp

[Serial Hero]

I've never been in a Cabela's store, I get the catalog. You may end up having to look in a catalog.
I've heard that the stores have everything in the catalog, and more.

They just opened one across town but I haven't made it over there yet.

[Kodiak]

Wow... I wonder why I haven't been notified of these replies [huh]...

Anway, thanks once again for all of your help. I've been doing a lot of homemade stuff lately, and so far I've got a safari shirt and a banded-collar shirt, and I'm going to get Grandma to start on a jacket as soon as I get back from Canada.

I have yet to decide on trousers, though I'll probably go with a heavy canvas material off-the-shelf. My hat is slowly being narrowed down, though I don't know when I'll ever get that bought. Boots are also narrowed down to three (both of these I will be posting about shortly) and the other odds and ends are also starting to fall together. Thanks again for your help!

[Mojave Jack]

Try these. Good prices too.
http://www.fcsutler.com/fccanvas.asp

Nick, thanks for that link. I've been looking for decently priced wall tents. I've been trying to snag a GP medium or GP small from our recycle lot, but haven't had any luck. Those really are good prices at Fall Creek.

[carebear]

Mojave,

Did you get to keep a bunch of lance corporals when you retired? How are you going to put one of those things up? :D

[Nick Charles]

Wolsely Pith, LL Bean shirt, Orvis Jacket and Bills Ghurka Pants with the chippewa boots ffrom Sportsmansguide.


http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/4601/pith001qh3.jpg

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1808/pith002hw8.jpg

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/1602/pith003jx9.jpg

[Doug C]

Man Nick.. those Ghurka pants from Bill's Khakis are pretty cool. Wonder if they're available in other colors? How much were they (or is that a rude question?)?

Doug C

[Nick Charles]

No it isn't rude, they aren;t offered on the Bills site got them on the bay for $56 nwt, Bills has the shorts on the site and they are $145 so I can imagine what the pants would be. If you want some thing similar, look in the English Patient thread at Magnolis pants.

[Hemingway Jones]

Great look, Nick. Well done. I like the pants as well, but you've put together the entire look very well.

[Mojave Jack]

Mojave,

Did you get to keep a bunch of lance corporals when you retired? How are you going to put one of those things up? :D
lol I figured it'd be great for a bunch of FLoungers on a weekend adventure. A few martinis, put up the tent, a few more martinis, relax in the camp chairs.... Just keep them away from the Rigbys!

Nick, good show! I like the Wolseley a lot. Good catch on the Ghurka pants, too. I need to find a pair of those, too. Are you going to be at the QM? Hope so. We'll need you there for the adventure crowd.

[Nick Charles]

I have a reservation, but well see what happens. We have a family type vacation the 1st of Dec so I have to see what the $$$ looks like then.

[Baggers]

We were down in the Texas Hill country this weekend at a friend's house and the scenery has always reminded me of Southern Africa, so I brought some gear along for an impromtu photoshoot. Imagine taking a breather on the veranda after taking a ride through the bush:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a347/MStoddard/Veranda01.jpg

Filson short sleeve feather weight poplin shirt, and WPG boots, spurs, and breeches. The belt comes from Colonel Littleton. I say Mojave, care for a sundowner?

Cheers!

[carebear]

Baggers,

You need a Purdey or H&H leaning against the rail. Tell you what, buy two of each and I'll keep a pair handy for you up here. :D

[Mojave Jack]

I say Mojave, care for a sundowner?

Cheers!
By all means! And cheers, indeed. That backdrop does scream Africa. No need for BT's photoshopping skills here. And I'll be willing to bet it was about as hot as Africa, too! The high in Phoenix was 110 when I landed there today, and we have a bit of a monsoon right now. Very humid and Africa-like. Great ensemble, Baggers. Don't you wish we could get away with those boots on a daily basis?

[Baggers]

By all means! And cheers, indeed. That backdrop does scream Africa. No need for BT's photoshopping skills here. And I'll be willing to bet it was about as hot as Africa, too! The high in Phoenix was 110 when I landed there today, and we have a bit of a monsoon right now. Very humid and Africa-like. Great ensemble, Baggers. Don't you wish we could get away with those boots on a daily basis?

Thanks, too bad the shots didn't turn out better. Actually, it wasn't that hot, but the OD wool shirt I wore for taking the shots of the campaign hat did get a little sweaty from the humidity that morning. We did get some rain late in the afternoon and evening, though, and on our drive back to the Dallas area on Monday it started raining on us again about halfway there and continued all the way home where it stayed with us through most of the night. A most welcome event, but not nearly enough to put a dent in the months long drought we've been experiencing. We're hoping for more this coming weekend. Bring it on!

And yes, I'm really wanting to wear those things out and about. They are just too cool. Who knows, I'm keeping an eye peeled for the appropriate time. Too bad I don't own a horse, I see people in the grocery store all the time who've just come from the stable dressed similarly. All I'd need to complete the look is some manure on them and I'd fit right in! lol

Cheers!

[Serial Hero]

I found this article that is kind of interesting

http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/library/chic.asp

[Mike K.]

Gentlemen of this thread, I would like to comment on two things I've noticed regarding adventuring gear...

First, I absolutely love seeing all of the fine boots, breeches, hats, etc. You all have some amazing collections of truly vintage-adventure style! Just one thing seems to be missing however...a little abuse.:eek: All these photos and everything looks brand spanking new. Now, I know how much money goes into some of this stuff and not everyone would want to risk damage to their kits, but it just doesn't seem right seeing crisp & shiny instead of dusty & battered for adventuring gear. Perhaps we need to begin discussion about a Fedora Lounge safari.[huh]

Second, where are all the ladies?! Certainly some of the FL gals are adventurous types. I seem to recall reading a thread from MissQueenie about putting together the FolkWear bush outfit. There must be other gals with some khaki & leather in the steamer trunk! It just doesn't seem right that only the guys are contributing to this thread. What would Gable have been without Gardner in the movie Mogambo? C'mon ladies, where are those khakis?!:whistling

[Nick Charles]

True. And if I had anyone to go with, I'd get dirty. Aside from that after much delay and two lost orders I got the British Indian officer shirt in Khaki. which is british khaki not that light colored stuff. And man the shirt weigh about a pound and a half. rugged and well made. Photos to come.(Spanking new and clean)

[K by the bay]

Dear Sirs, I am an adventurous lady. Still can't figure out how to post pics though haha. I love pith helmets, campaign hats, tall boots, all that sort of thing. I suppose it sounds terribly decadent but I'd love to be a big game hunter. Small game is welcome too. Would like to try harpooning swordfish, deerstalking with a sword and many other things. The boots I wear are Hunter of Scotland green wellies. Also have the Argyll type. Black with red top. Your outfits look fine.

[Baggers]

Mike, you're absoutely correct. Our gear is too clean. However, I'm planning on allowing mine to "distress" naturally. I've never been a fan of pre-distressed anything because I think 90% of it looks fake. Besides, it's cool to be able to see the history in a garment by observing the dirt, scars, and wrinkles it's gathered during its years of use. I'm planning on giving my boots a good polishing this weekend, and then I'm simply going to wear them and let them gather their own character. After all, even Frederick Selous' vellies started out new, he didn't buy them pre-aged. ;)

The safari idea sounds intriguing. Perhaps we could attempt a day or overnight trek here in the States (a park or wildlife area). My vote would naturally be for somewhere in the desert southwest. We could try to do it as "Golden Era" as safety would permit. Or we could organize a summit on some private land or at a lodge. Kind of like the Queen Mary, only under canvas.

Nick, I can't wait to see that shirt of yours. I've been thinking about it for myself, only in white, and haven't been down to my local Orvis store to see if they have it in stock.

And K by the bay, welcome! It's good to know that the ladies have an interest in this. Maybe you should give us a plug in the Powder Room?

Cheers!

[Mojave Jack]

Mike, you're absolutely right!

I was actually talking with Matt Deckard and Julius Xavier about this very thing. JX proposed a camping trip in old style, and I volunteered my little part of the desert as an option. (No bugs, a real advantage!) We haven't gotten very far, primarily since it is still too hot to really enjoy being outdoors. After all, even in Egypt they knock off excavating for the summer due to the intense heat. Nonetheless, the option is still on the table!

On the abused gear issue, I also agree. I don't wear it nearly as much as I would like, and I usually blend items into my wardrobe a piece at a time. I would descibe my typical field gear as "vintage inspired," rather than true to form. Even so I am regarded as excentric since I don't wear jeans and t-shirts every day. I was on my way to the field one day, wearing my usual: desert combat boots, khaki cargo shorts, button front shirt, with my P37 canteen slung over my shoulder. A co-worker looked at me, paused for a second, and said, "You're really into that old school sh**, aren't you?" Every time I go over to Range Scheduling, the supervisor says, "Here comes Indiana Jones!" even though I am wearing a bush jacket and khakis. When I was working on a project in Indiana, the rest of the crew called me the "Banana Republic Archaeologist," because I wore my Columbia fishing shirts and khakis. Here's a few typical days in the field:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/MojaveJack/Huntingforfossils.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/MojaveJack/SunshinePeak2sm.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/MojaveJack/Foxtrotsm.jpg

[Mojave Jack]

True. And if I had anyone to go with, I'd get dirty. Aside from that after much delay and two lost orders I got the British Indian officer shirt in Khaki. which is british khaki not that light colored stuff. And man the shirt weigh about a pound and a half. rugged and well made. Photos to come.(Spanking new and clean)
Nick, I want to do some research for my dissertation in your area at White Tanks. I've been talking with Indiana Tone (over at COW) about a visit there at a time TBD. Actually, we've been talking about it for over a year! lol I'm only five hours from Phoenix, so a field trip would be pretty easy. I really do need to get moving on it; other coursework has interfered with me making any progress on my own research, though. Maybe we should just pick a date and do it!

[Nick Charles]

Count me in I'll be happy to white tank with you guys. I even have a four wheel drive truck and enough regular camping gear to get it done. Really not vintage. But if someone has a wall tent thats great. LEt me know when.

[Mike K.]

Well everyone, let's rule out any encampment in my neck of the woods...err, swamp. The bugs aren't too bad this year, but 90 degrees and 90 percent humidity doesn't make for an enjoyable experience. November through March is a lot better. Baggers I really love that photo of you in Texas hill country...very Tanzania-ish. I should be wrapping up my PhD in the next several months if all goes well and I've been seriously thinking of treating myself to an African safari afterwards. I'm still debating between a real hunting trip versus a photo safari (perhaps I'll do a combination). I hear there's actually some African big game reserves in Texas. If we decide to go through with this get-together, perhaps we should consider one of these places in Texas. Mojave, it's not old school @$%!, it's classic-style @$%! ;) I usually get questions about crocodile hunting or going on safari, but over time everyone has gotten accustomed to my attire. K By The Bay, good to have you here...welcome! Please spread the word. As for posting your pics, just go to photobucket.com and set up an album. Then all you do is copy the URL and paste into the Fedora Lounge 'insert image' tab when posting a thread. It's really quite easy once you get the hang of it. As for me, I'll have to borrow one of the digital cameras from work and get some shots of myself. I just won some leather gaiters off the 'bay' that should go nicely with my service boots. I'm also waiting on the arrival of a different size Beretta safari jacket (hopefully this one will not be so oversized). There's also a British belted bush jacket at What Price Glory for a really decent price...and check out the cool horsehair fly whisk too!

[Viola]

What would you gentlemen recommend to a lady as a "starter set"? Exploring the wilds sounds very appealing, but none of my still-slim vintage collection is that rugged and somehow safari in nylon this and synthetic mumbo-jumbo that just doesn't have the same cachet.

Should I take this to the Powder Room?

[Nick Charles]

I'd go with much of the same stuff as the men. High boots, ridiing pants, maybe a more feminine shirt silk or gaberdine instead of wool or cotton duck. Pith helmut or wide brim hat. Like this

http://www.geh.org/ar/strip37/m198512570416.jpg

[Baggers]

Well everyone, let's rule out any encampment in my neck of the woods...err, swamp. The bugs aren't too bad this year, but 90 degrees and 90 percent humidity doesn't make for an enjoyable experience. November through March is a lot better. Baggers I really love that photo of you in Texas hill country...very Tanzania-ish.

Bummer. Too bad you can't send the rain our way. Actually, November through March might be easier to do. November is the Queen Mary, but perhaps after the first of the year. Very Tanzania-ish, eh? I like that.


I hear there's actually some African big game reserves in Texas. If we decide to go through with this get-together, perhaps we should consider one of these places in Texas.

There's one southwest of Dallas/Fort Worth, Fossil Rim Wildlife Center (http://www.fossilrim.com/). Check out the on site lodging and their off season special in the lower right corner of the page. Who knows how they'd react to a bunch of Out of Africa wannabes, but it might be interesting.


There's also a British belted bush jacket at What Price Glory for a really decent price...and check out the cool horsehair fly whisk too!

I've got that jacket (of course) and the fly whisk. You'll need to be careful about fitting. The sleeves on it are a bit too short for me and the cuffs are rather snug. I'm thinking of converting it to short sleeves so I can get more wear out of it. The fly whisk is not as big as some I've seen, but for only $14, it's not bad.

Cheers!

[carebear]

The fly whisk is not as big as some I've seen, but for only $14, it's not bad.

Cheers!

Remember, it's not the size of your fly whisk that counts, it's the size of the whisk in your fly. :D

[Mike K.]

Remember, it's not the size of your fly whisk that counts, it's the size of the whisk in your fly. :D

lol Ha! No comment Carebear... lol

Baggers - I'll definitely check out the Fossil Rim Wildlife Center. I'm also waiting for an info packet for a real Tanzania safari and it looks like another biological expedition to Trinidad is in the works for my next summer. Hey, since you have the WPG Bush Jacket, can you tell me what size and also the shoulder & sleeve measurements? I'm always a bit afraid of mail/internet purchases in terms of getting the right fit.

Viola - I agree with Nick. While synthetics are all the rage in the hi-tech outdoor world, they actually do not work well in a number of climates (leave 'em for the mountaineering trips). I'd recommend starting with some places like L. L. Bean, Cabelas, Orvis, and Woolrich. Also check eBay for some great items (e.g. old Banana Republic gear). View some old photos and movies (e.g. Out of Africa) and then look to mimic the style. Glad to have you here...by all means spread the word in the Powder Room!

Everyone, I don't know what your experience is but I've organized and led a number of expeditions/safaris over the years. I'm rather busy for the next several months finishing my PhD, but if we're serious about a trip...perhaps late summer/early autumn 2007... then I'd love to put it all together!

[Mike K.]

Folks the Tanzania wildlife safaris for 2007 are running right around $6000 (incl. airfare) at this time. I'm currently working with Thomson Safaris which is a top-ranked company. They can also put together 'private' safaris (perhaps for a group of us). I'll be looking to do something during the tourist off-season but still when wildlife is abundant. I'm opening a thread in the FL Events section so please respond there if you are seriously interested.

[Viola]

Thanks a lot, you guys. Now I have whole new sites trying to slurp up all my money! :rage:

Seriously I love this stuff, and I started a new thread in the Powder Room too.

[Mojave Jack]

Folks the Tanzania wildlife safaris for 2007 are running right around $6000 (incl. airfare) at this time. I'm currently working with Thomson Safaris which is a top-ranked company. They can also put together 'private' safaris (perhaps for a group of us). I'll be looking to do something during the tourist off-season but still when wildlife is abundant. I'm opening a thread in the FL Events section so please respond there if you are seriously interested.

Wow, Mike, that sounds like a great trip! Unfortunately, as long as the wife is still in school (until 2008), all of my leave time is reserved for her. She has a friend there at Yale that is planning a trip along the east coast of Africa around that time, and we are thinking seriously about trying to plan long term for that. There is also the question of my long-planned trip across the Gobi, to retrace the routes of the Central Asiatic Expeditions. Still, an African safari...

Viola, try this site, too: SHE Safari (http://www.shesafari.com/). I have no experience with them, but they have a lot of style and the prices aren't exhorbitant. I agree with Mike on the LL Bean stuff, too. That's the kind of stuff you can incorporate into your daily wear without looking too "safari." Of course, women can get away with a lot more than men. You can wear tall boots every day, and people will think you're pretty fashionable!

Great picture, Nick! Osa's got it goin' on!

[Viola]

Would that finding, not to mention affording, all this stuff was as easy as Heromachine!
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6830/safarizu2.png

[carebear]

Would that finding, not to mention affording, all this stuff was as easy as Heromachine!
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6830/safarizu2.png

Whatcha packin' there Vi?

Looks like a Python.

[Viola]

Its the Ruger Vaquero I can't afford yet!:rage: :(

;)

Viola

[carebear]

Its the Ruger Vaquero I can't afford yet!:rage: :(

;)

Viola

If you aren't agin' taking "baby steps" you can get into a used Uberti for less than half the cost of that Ruger.

It'll handle all but the "Ruger-only" .45 Colt loads and any people or animals in your vicinity. Better more shooting sooner than less shooting later, that's my motto. :D

There's always time to trade up when resources permit.

But this isn't a gun forum. (my natural habitat)

[JohnTheGreek]

I'd go with much of the same stuff as the men. High boots, ridiing pants, maybe a more feminine shirt silk or gaberdine instead of wool or cotton duck. Pith helmut or wide brim hat. Like this

http://www.geh.org/ar/strip37/m198512570416.jpg


What a woman that Osa Johnson ! ! !
Not sure they make 'em like that any more...

[Serial Hero]

Safari, A Chronicle of adventure

http://www.amazon.com/Safari-Chronicle-Adventure-Bartle-Bull/dp/0786716789/sr=8-5/qid=1159479089/ref=pd_bbs_5/002-8797515-9247242?ie=UTF8&s=books

It just arrived in the mail. From flipping through it, I can say it looks great. It’s the history of African safaris from the 1830’s to the present. Tons of period photos and drawings (from the days before the camera). It describes clothing, gear and guns. There’s also a chapter on classic films and Hemmingway.

[Mike K.]

Thanks for the heads up on that one! I just ordered a copy...should be a great addition to my library.

[Mojave Jack]

Safari, A Chronicle of adventure

http://www.amazon.com/Safari-Chronicle-Adventure-Bartle-Bull/dp/0786716789/sr=8-5/qid=1159479089/ref=pd_bbs_5/002-8797515-9247242?ie=UTF8&s=books

It just arrived in the mail. From flipping through it, I can say it looks great. It’s the history of African safaris from the 1830’s to the present. Tons of period photos and drawings (from the days before the camera). It describes clothing, gear and guns. There’s also a chapter on classic films and Hemmingway.

Looks excellent. I just put a copy on hold at the library.

I just finished reading Arabian Sands by Wilfred Thesiger (http://www.amazon.com/Arabian-Sands-Revised-Travel-Library/dp/0140095144/sr=1-1/qid=1159549228/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-2868988-0034432?ie=UTF8&s=books). Not safari, but an incredible account of the trips he took crisscrossing the Rub al Khali (The Empty Quarter) in the Arabian Peninsula. This is Exploration with a capital "E". It would seem tough to make endless days on a camel across open desert interesting, but Thesiger does it very well. Highly recommended.

[Mike K.]

Hey everyone,
I just picked up one of these L.L. Bean waxed canvas rucksacks (gotta love gift certificates). Overall it's a nice pack and has a vintage look to it. Except...
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e153/Lizard-of-Oz/Rucksack.jpg
The entire back panel is made from black nylon mesh & foam. Rather than a matching canvas or perhaps leather, this modern synthetic material really turns me off. I don't know if it is possible, but can the back be replaced with something more vintage looking, e.g. leather or canvas? If so, who would I go to for alterations? The other options are bite the bullet and deal with the non-vintage aspects of the pack, or return it to L.L. Bean.

[Indy Magnoli]

Try contacting a local tack shop. If they don't do work themselves, they should be able to refer you to someone locally. The bag looks great from this angle!

Kind regards,
Magnoli

[carebear]

The entire back panel is made from black nylon mesh & foam. Rather than a matching canvas or perhaps leather, this modern synthetic material really turns me off. I don't know if it is possible, but can the back be replaced with something more vintage looking, e.g. leather or canvas? If so, who would I go to for alterations? The other options are bite the bullet and deal with the non-vintage aspects of the pack, or return it to L.L. Bean.

Remember, our forebearers, the ones who actually used that stuff, would have killed for modern fabrics and such.

[Mojave Jack]

Hey everyone,
I just picked up one of these L.L. Bean waxed canvas rucksacks (gotta love gift certificates). Overall it's a nice pack and has a vintage look to it. Except...
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e153/Lizard-of-Oz/Rucksack.jpg
The entire back panel is made from black nylon mesh & foam. Rather than a matching canvas or perhaps leather, this modern synthetic material really turns me off. I don't know if it is possible, but can the back be replaced with something more vintage looking, e.g. leather or canvas? If so, who would I go to for alterations? The other options are bite the bullet and deal with the non-vintage aspects of the pack, or return it to L.L. Bean.
Mike, I had that pack for a relatively short time, too. I'm not so turned off by the back panel, but the zippered pockets really were a pain, plus the organizer pocket in the flap was just about useless. I just didn't think it was a good blend of modern convenience and vintage look and feel. The synthetic sheepskin strap padding didn't help matters! Overall I was disappointed. It seems like if you want more than a big canvas sack like a true vintage pack (e.g., Duluth Pack, Frost River, or the ubiquitous surplus Swiss salt-and-pepper rucksack), you have to go with a modern pack, nylon, dayglo colors, and all.

[Twitch]

Since my last adventurer outting was with the Marine Corps and it became a little too exciting:) I recently found an article of clothing that is quite flexible in use. I found an L.L. Bean vest at the thrift store for $3 in virtually new condition. These things are very handy. You see photojournalists in them when they're on assignment in the field. There are various branded styles on the same theme but the end result is the same- lots of pockets. It's light in weight and not meant for warmth. It goes with almost any other garb, mine is tan. They're great for travelers, full of zippered and Velcroed pockets to keep passports and valuables in.

[Mojave Jack]

Since my last adventurer outting was with the Marine Corps and it became a little too exciting:) I recently found an article of clothing that is quite flexible in use. I found an L.L. Bean vest at the thrift store for $3 in virtually new condition. These things are very handy. You see photojournalists in them when they're on assignment in the field. There are various branded styles on the same theme but the end result is the same- lots of pockets. It's light in weight and not meant for warmth. It goes with almost any other garb, mine is tan. They're great for travelers, full of zippered and Velcroed pockets to keep passports and valuables in.
I use a vest in the field a lot, too, and find them very handy. Mine is an Eddie Bauer vest that has multiple pockets, but not too many. I've found that I really don't like the zipper, though. Especially here in the desert it is a little too constrictive. I'd rather have buttons that I can fasten just one to provide a little more air circulation. I like the Working Man vest (http://www.duluthtrading.com/search/searchresults/64082.aspx?feature=Product_5) offered by Duluth Trading, though on their summer weight version (http://www.duluthtrading.com/search/searchresults/64059.aspx?feature=Product_4) they put a zipper. D'oh!

I'm also intrigued by their Moleskin Vest (http://www.duluthtrading.com/search/searchresults/86033.aspx?feature=Product_9) for cooler times of the year, but at $89 I doubt I'll pick one up. If I'm going to spend that I'll just buy a Filson (http://www.filson.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2092553&cp=2069836.2069837.2118239).

[Baggers]

I'm also intrigued by their Moleskin Vest (http://www.duluthtrading.com/search/searchresults/86033.aspx?feature=Product_9) for cooler times of the year, but at $89 I doubt I'll pick one up. If I'm going to spend that I'll just buy a Filson (http://www.filson.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2092553&cp=2069836.2069837.2118239).

I've never been very fond of the way Filson cut their moleskin vest, but they recently added a Mackinaw Wool Western Vest (http://www.filson.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2372901&cp=2065673.2065678&page=2&doVSearch=no&clickid=leftnav_Outerwear_txt&pageBucket=0&parentPage=family) that looks interesting. I've been thinking of getting one for when cooler weather finally arrives here. I tried it on at my local Orvis store and liked the way it fit. But I won't buy direct from Filson or from Orvis, as I can get it $10 cheaper at David Morgan (http://www.davidmorgan.com/product_info.php?products_id=1046).

Cheers!

[Mike K.]

Hello friends,
A new Lounge member, Havana Joe, just posted some nice pics of his adventuring gear in The Steamer Trunk. It has certainly inspired me to photograph my collection. While this thread remains the definitive place to discuss adventuring gear, we should all do a little 'show-n-tell' by posting some pics in The Steamer Trunk don't you think?!
Cheers,
Mike
;)

[Nick Charles]

Thought I'd give this a bump and show some new things in the new orvis catalog.

Twill explorers Jacket

http://images.orvis.com/orvis_assets//prodimg/06TXL6PB_lg.jpg

Drill cloth shooting jacket

http://images.orvis.com/orvis_assets//prodimg/21RXR6XB_lg.jpg

Amphibious Trench

http://images.orvis.com/orvis_assets//prodimg/08APL6PB_lg.jpg

Lambskin munitions jacket

http://images.orvis.com/orvis_assets//prodimg/10GCL6HH_lg.jpg

and finally the Navy seal boots are back

http://images.orvis.com/orvis_assets//prodimg/76E2L5SB_lg.jpg

[Steve]

The munitions jacket is very nice; pity I just exhausted all of my available funds. :eusa_doh:

[Mojave Jack]

I've had a pair of the Seal boots for years (variously called Israeli Commando Boots, French Foreign Legion boots, etc.), but they are a different brand than the Palladiums. I bought a pair of the Palladiums from Orvis last spring, but they were disintegrating after only about a month of wear. I don't think I'm that much harder on footwear than your average archaeologist, but they just couldn't hold up. The sole was coming off along the sides of the boot, and big chunks were coming off the sole. It's a pity because they are absolutely perfect for wear out here. In fact, I still wear my seven- or eight-year-old threadbare pair regularly in the warmer months. They're light, comfortable, have good traction, and are tall enough to keep out the sand. I did once have a guy in Riverside ask me why I was wearing wading boots, though! :eusa_doh:

Incidently, Brigade Quartermasters has the Scorpion boot, which is very similar. I had a pair of those, too, but they weren't as comfortable and I didn't like the black sole on a desert tan boot. The top collar attaches with a zipper, which is a really awkward arrangement. I ended up sending those back, too. Jeez, I'm a picky SOB, aren't I?

[Mike K.]

I'm a picky SOB, aren't I?

Aren't we all!!! Out of curiosity, what brand were your original boots...the ones that actually held up well?

[Mojave Jack]

I wish I knew! I got them from some little surplus store or something and they were about $20. After wearing them non-stop every summer since, I've recently worn a hole through the heel of one of them. Right at the sole, so there's no way to fix it. The Palladiums from Orvis were an attempt to replace them. I shoulda bought 5 pairs back in '98 or '99!

[Nick Charles]

I know the ones Jack is refering to, in the 90's they all over in catalog, like US Calvary and Sportsman Guide. They all called them Isreali Commando Boots. or French Foreighn Legion boots depending on wher you looked. I really wanted a pair in Khaki but never go around to it and now its too late.

[carebear]

If they were the ones I remember it was like wearing knobby-soled Chucks.

I've been wearing the new rough out issue boot since I got out. That's a comfy fit too. I miss my salty jungle boots though. Got stolen in Thailand.

Who the heck in Thailand wears a 10W?

[Lionheart]

Wolsely Pith, LL Bean shirt, Orvis Jacket and Bills Ghurka Pants with the chippewa boots ffrom Sportsmansguide.

Great look - and really done well, Nick. The Orvis jacket looks almost exactly like the Abercrombie and Fitch safari jacket I picked up a few years ago off Ebay. The only think that is missing from the outfit is an ascot (although that may not be your "thing", as it were).

Well done.:eusa_clap

[Mojave Jack]

If they were the ones I remember it was like wearing knobby-soled Chucks.

I've been wearing the new rough out issue boot since I got out. That's a comfy fit too. I miss my salty jungle boots though. Got stolen in Thailand.

Who the heck in Thailand wears a 10W?
They are like knobby solded Chucks! Very comfortable, and perfect for light duty in the desert.

Carebear, are you wearing the Gulf War issue roughouts, or the new ones? The new roughouts have always felt clunky to me. They make me feel like I'm wearing smaller versions of bunny boots. I much prefer my Gulf War era desert boots. Thankfully they're still available direct from Altama.

The older jungle boots were great, too, but when they went to the black canvas they alwasy made my heels hurt. They must have changed vendors, and when 12th Group was disbanded I ended up with about four pairs. Every pair hurt like heck and would never break in.

Were your boots in Thailand unsecured? Gear adrift is a gift!

[carebear]

They are like knobby solded Chucks! Very comfortable, and perfect for light duty in the desert.

Carebear, are you wearing the Gulf War issue roughouts, or the new ones? The new roughouts have always felt clunky to me. They make me feel like I'm wearing smaller versions of bunny boots. I much prefer my Gulf War era desert boots. Thankfully they're still available direct from Altama.

The older jungle boots were great, too, but when they went to the black canvas they alwasy made my heels hurt. They must have changed vendors, and when 12th Group was disbanded I ended up with about four pairs. Every pair hurt like heck and would never break in.

Were your boots in Thailand unsecured? Gear adrift is a gift!

The newer ones that were issued with the MARPAT, I never did get any of the orig. desert boots.

My jungles were under my rack while I was in town, they weren't secured but they weren't just strewn about.

The black jungles always dug into the outside of my foot where the panels came together.

[Havana Joe]

Hey Mojave,

Tried to PM you but couldn't.

Great hat! Where'd you get it? I've been looking for one like it.

Thankls!!!

Havana Joe

[Mojave Jack]

Hey Mojave,

Tried to PM you but couldn't.

Great hat! Where'd you get it? I've been looking for one like it.

Thankls!!!

Havana Joe
Hey, Joe! One more post and you'll be able to PM.

Thanks for the compliment! Do you mean the hat in my avatar? It is an Australian issue slouch. I got it about 8 years ago, before I started learning about the value of different and better felts. Art blocked it like Robert Redford's in Out of Africa, and he told me it is some wool/fur blend. I wear it a lot now that it's cooler (a lot cooler today; it's snowing! In the desert!!), but I avoid it completely in anything over about 60 degrees. If I am exerting myself at all, it is just too hot. I plan to replace it with an Akubra Imperial Grade slouch sometime. It's still one of my favorites, and stays on my head better than my Akubra Flinders if it is windy, which is every other day here!

[Nick Charles]

well as you can see we got to ruff up our gear in the camping thread. anyone got something new to add.

[Mojave Jack]

Nothing new to add, but a new question to ask. I happened to catch Romancing the Stone, and realized that Michael Douglas' pack is very similar to what I've been looking for. Can anybody get some good screen grabs of that? I'm thinking the Frost River Nessmuk (http://www.frostriver.com/canoe_packs/nessmukpack.html) pack is pretty close.
http://www.frostriver.com/images/products/840_Nessmuk.gif
I might just have to get one of these and check it out.

[John in Covina]

and finally the Navy seal boots are back

http://images.orvis.com/orvis_assets//prodimg/76E2L5SB_lg.jpg
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reminds me of the canvas Israeli boots.

[carebear]

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reminds me of the canvas Israeli boots.

Those canvas boots were light but the sole had no stiffness, it was like wearing Chuck Taylors. In 29 Palms, for me, they gave no padding or protection to the feet on sharp rocks or jumping on and off steel vehicles.

I preferred my jungles.

[Mojave Jack]

Those canvas boots were light but the sole had no stiffness, it was like wearing Chuck Taylors. In 29 Palms, for me, they gave no padding or protection to the feet on sharp rocks or jumping on and off steel vehicles.

I preferred my jungles.
There's not much that can protect you from the rocks of 29 Palms! They're malicious! I had to get my J. Crew Ruggeds (Rugged! Ha!) re-soled after about 6 months out here. I think the new soles will last a bit longer.

These Israeli boots are great for casual wear with shorts here, though. They are high enough to keep most of the little rocks out, but you're right, they have zero support or sole. The soles are wearing out on my Desert Storm-era boots, too. I'm not sure what to replace them with, if I can't get them re-soled.

[carebear]

That lava will tear apart HMMWV tires, boots stand no chance. :eusa_doh: At least the shank on the jungles kept it from feeling like they were gonna go right through your foot.

What's the word on the new rough-out issue boot in the Stumps?

The sole, as it turns out, is not real good on ice.

[Mojave Jack]

I think they're pretty popular. I'm not crazy about them, but I don't have to wear them every day anymore. I think they're mainly popular because you don't have to shine them!

[Mojave Jack]

Orvis has a new line of stuff sanctioned by the African Professional Hunter's Association. Pretty nice stuff, but it ain't cheap!

I really want this vest, but $169 is a bit steep: APHA Safari Vest (http://www.orvis.com/store/product_choice.asp?pf_id=97X0&dir_id=885&group_id=11772&cat_id=11779&subcat_id=12824&feature_id=17)

The jacket is awesome, but again, a little pricey at $198: APHA Safari Jacket (http://www.orvis.com/store/product_choice.asp?pf_id=97XK&dir_id=885&group_id=11772&cat_id=11779&subcat_id=12824&feature_id=17)
I really like the concealed buttons, and the ammo pockets.

Clearly a lot of thought went into the design of these garments, but at $129 for a shirt (http://www.orvis.com/store/product_choice.asp?pf_id=97X1&dir_id=885&group_id=11772&cat_id=11783&subcat_id=12821&feature_id=17), who is going to wear this stuff out into the bush?! I guess I'll stick with my Cabela's gear, which I'm not afraid to beat up.

[Steve]

I'm sure Selous wore APHA-approved garments. :rolleyes:

Personally, I think the Kalahari Safari jacket from Beretta has a better look to it, and for $50 less.
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0028581942468a&type=product&cmCat=search&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&QueryText=kalahari&N=4887&Ntk=Products&Ntx=mode+matchall&Nty=1&Ntt=kalahari&noImage=0

[carebear]

I'm sure Selous wore APHA-approved garments. :rolleyes:



Well, technically, since back in the day he and his peers were the APHA; I'd say whatever they chose to wear was so approved. :D

[Baggers]

I'm sure Selous wore APHA-approved garments. :rolleyes:

He certainly did. You didn't see the full page ad in the London Illustrated News? lol


Personally, I think the Kalahari Safari jacket from Beretta has a better look to it, and for $50 less.
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0028581942468a&type=product&cmCat=search&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&QueryText=kalahari&N=4887&Ntk=Products&Ntx=mode+matchall&Nty=1&Ntt=kalahari&noImage=0

I have that jacket and almost never wear it. The fabric is too light weight for "serious" use in my opinion, and it fits like a tent. It also has the Beretta logo embroidered smack dab in the middle of the shoulder yoke in matching thread. I HATE logos. And to top it off, I had to flip the belt on mine because the buckle was on the wrong side. It was tacked in place on each side seam instead be being run through belt loops, so it wasn't as simple as you might think. I should have just sent it back, but I thought I'd give a try anyway. Very disappointing.


Now the Orvis model may be worth the price of admission. It's available in a nice dark "British" khaki, has a decent looking pocket arrangement, NO Velcro, and not too many useless "features" (I really dislike those tabs for rolling sleeves, I don't think I've ever owned a shirt or jacket that had sleeves that wouldn't stay up on their own).

My big questions are concerning the fabric. Hawthorne cloth? What is that? Poplin, twill, canvas weave? How sturdy does it seem? What's a "dry waxed" finish and does it really breathe? Also, how does the jacket fit? I may drop by the local store week after next and see if they have it so I can check it out in person.

Cheers!

[Mojave Jack]

I couldn't agree with you more on the sleeve tabs, Baggers! Somewhere along the line that became de rigeur for all outdoors shirts and jackets, but really, who needs them? Most often they are more of a pain because the sleeves never roll up to hit that tab just right, or the tab is too low, etc. But if you try to take them off you end up with stitching holes where the tab was attached. :eusa_doh: Very annoying.

As always, I'll stand by just about anything Orvis, in terms of quality and workmanship (not necessarily on style; witness the TR leather vest (http://www.orvis.com/store/product_choice.asp?pf_id=26PL&dir_id=885&group_id=11685&cat_id=11787&subcat_id=11788&feature_id=17) :eek: ), so I'd be willing to bet the material is pretty tough. Nonetheless, I can't rationalize a $198 jacket for forcing my way through brush. I'd rather buy four disposable Cabela's jackets (though they are very lightweight) and not worry about bashing it up, staining it, or tearing it. I can always layer to make up for the weight, which generally works out better anyway.

Speaking of layering, I just scored a Filson vest (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=007&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=170085581886&rd=1&rd=1) for $29 on ebay. The description doesn't say if it's moleskin or canvas, just that it's cotton. I'm looking forward to getting it, either way.

[Nick Charles]

I like all of my orvis stuff also, i you look on bay you can generally find the safari stuff cheaper. Thats where I got mine.

[Steve]

I couldn't agree with you more on the sleeve tabs, Baggers! Somewhere along the line that became de rigeur for all outdoors shirts and jackets, but really, who needs them? Most often they are more of a pain because the sleeves never roll up to hit that tab just right, or the tab is too low, etc. But if you try to take them off you end up with stitching holes where the tab was attached. :eusa_doh: Very annoying.On that, I beg to differ sir. My TravelSmith bush jacket, (the one from my New Years photos,) functions perfectly in that respect. It's it a great help for the humid clime in my area.

[Baggers]

On that, I beg to differ sir. My TravelSmith bush jacket, (the one from my New Years photos,) functions perfectly in that respect. It's it a great help for the humid clime in my area.

Then you may be one of the few on which they're positioned perfectly for the length of your arms. Also, you may not mind a less than military style roll. If I can speak for Mojave, I think the problem that he and I have is that I (we) prefer a nice tight, even fold without wrinkles, and which hits just above the elbow so that the lower end doesn't touch the forearm when it's bent at a 90 degree angle to the upper arm. The tabs on mine almost never let me accomplish that, and I have to make two or three tries at rolling it before I'm satisfied. It's much easier to do when one doesn't have to account for the tab when calculating the width of the folds. The only folks I know who have it harder are Army troops who have to contend with folding the BDU/ACU sleeve with enough of the cuff left over to fold over the rolled part so that the reverse, uncamouflaged, side is covered. I've never been able to get the hang of that! The Marines were very smart not to adopt that annoyance. :)

Also, when the tab is loose it creates a loop that tends to catch on every little projection that man or nature puts in our way! lol

Cheers!

[Mojave Jack]

Then you may be one of the few on which they're positioned perfectly for the length of your arms. Also, you may not mind a less than military style roll. If I can speak for Mojave, I think the problem that he and I have is that I (we) prefer a nice tight, even fold without wrinkles, and which hits just above the elbow so that the lower end doesn't touch the forearm when it's bent at a 90 degree angle to the upper arm. The tabs on mine almost never let me accomplish that, and I have to make two or three tries at rolling it before I'm satisfied. It's much easier to do when one doesn't have to account for the tab when calculating the width of the folds. The only folks I know who have it harder are Army troops who have to contend with folding the BDU/ACU sleeve with enough of the cuff left over to fold over the rolled part so that the reverse, uncamouflaged, side is covered. I've never been able to get the hang of that! The Marines were very smart not to adopt that annoyance. :)

Also, when the tab is loose it creates a loop that tends to catch on every little projection that man or nature puts in our way! lol

Cheers!
Quite right! Both on the desire for an even, wrinkless roll, and getting that military sleeve roll just right. I like my Cabela's shirts, but none of them have the sleever tab int he right place. I found on a couple fo them that I have to fold the cuff in half to make the roll come out right, and then it sits right in the crook of the elbow. Another one I have to fold the cuff about 3/4 back to get the roll to work right. The thing I really find annoying about those tabs is that they never seem to lay flat when the sleeves are down, or always seem to be right under your elbow when you lean on a counter or something.

The Army/Air Force roll is challenging at first, but after a while it becomes second nature. The real advantage to that roll, though, is that you can pull the sleeves down, literally, in about a second each. It was originally intended for use in case of an NBC attack (now CRBNE: Chemical, Radiological, Biological, Nuclear and Explosive attack) to allow quick deployment of the sleeves. It is equally convenient, though, when it gets chilly and you want your sleeves down or when you are tossing the uniform into the wash! No need to take off the shirt; just a tug and boom the sleeves are down. When I was in the Marine Corps we laughed at the Army, thinking that they just did that so the sleeve roll was camoflaged, too. Not until I got into the Air Force did I find out what it was really for, and how good it works. I now know just where to put the end of the sleeve when I turn it inside out so that it will roll perfectly. It comes out to about an inch above my stripes, and the roll comes out great.

[Mike K.]

Hey everybody, I just returned from a brief shopping trip to Target and discovered that they have some rather nice adventuring shirts. The shirts are military-inspired, very light weight cotton and come in khaki, olive, white, and black. Pockets are pleated (the correct way, not the inverted pleat) and have the coveted SCALLOPED flaps reminiscent of old-style safari shirts. Straight point collar, perhaps a little spread. There are two bands on each shoulder, similar to those found on some military shirts for the attachment of rank boards. My size medium fits well, not oversized but not too trim either. The sleeves are around 33 inches, appropriate for a size 38-40 shirt, but a bit too short for me. But who cares, it's a summer weight shirt and the sleeves should be rolled up anyway to achieve the rough and adventurous look!

All I need now is that Rigby double rifle! lol

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e153/Lizard-of-Oz/DSC_0018.jpg

[Kodiak]

How much did that shirt run you Mike?

Comparable to Cabelas, maybe? Or was that one more/less expensive?

It looks pretty good, so I might have to make the drive into the big city and get one ;)

[John in Covina]

Hey everybody, I just returned from a brief shopping trip to Target and discovered that they have some rather nice adventuring shirts. The shirts are military-inspired, very light weight cotton and come in khaki, olive, white, and black. Pockets are pleated (the correct way, not the inverted pleat) and have the coveted SCALLOPED flaps reminiscent of old-style safari shirts. Straight point collar, perhaps a little spread. There are two bands on each shoulder, similar to those found on some military shirts for the attachment of rank boards. My size medium fits well, not oversized but not too trim either. The sleeves are around 33 inches, appropriate for a size 38-40 shirt, but a bit too short for me. But who cares, it's a summer weight shirt and the sleeves should be rolled up anyway to achieve the rough and adventurous look! All I need now is that Rigby double rifle! lol
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e153/Lizard-of-Oz/DSC_0018.jpg

I'll have to take a look maybe they'l have some 2XL. Any short sleeved ones? My friends have always had good luck with hiking shorts from Target.

[Mike K.]

They run about $20 and are stocked in the typical S-XL, perhaps with some larger sizes too (I don't recall). The fabric weight is on par with Cabela's cotton trail shirts - very light and airy. This one has a finer weave, and to me, has more the look and feel of Egyptian cotton. No short sleeve versions. Target also has a half-placket outdoorsy shirt in a jersey knit. I don't recall seeing these shirts on the Target website so if your store doesn't carry them, let me know and I'll pick one up for you and mail it.

[Kodiak]

They run about $20 and are stocked in the typical S-XL, perhaps with some larger sizes too (I don't recall). The fabric weight is on par with Cabela's cotton trail shirts - very light and airy. This one has a finer weave, and to me, has more the look and feel of Egyptian cotton. No short sleeve versions. Target also has a half-placket outdoorsy shirt in a jersey knit. I don't recall seeing these shirts on the Target website so if your store doesn't carry them, let me know and I'll pick one up for you and mail it.

So... a tad bit cheaper than Cabelas! :eusa_clap :eusa_clap :eusa_clap

I agree with the Egyptian cotton look. I'll probably go with one in roughly the same color. I just hope they have my size small stocked. Sometimes I hate being a little guy.

And if they don't have it... I might have to take you up on the offer Mike :D

[SinatraStyle]

Hey everybody, I just returned from a brief shopping trip to Target and discovered that they have some rather nice adventuring shirts. The shirts are military-inspired, very light weight cotton and come in khaki, olive, white, and black. Pockets are pleated (the correct way, not the inverted pleat) and have the coveted SCALLOPED flaps reminiscent of old-style safari shirts. Straight point collar, perhaps a little spread. There are two bands on each shoulder, similar to those found on some military shirts for the attachment of rank boards. My size medium fits well, not oversized but not too trim either. The sleeves are around 33 inches, appropriate for a size 38-40 shirt, but a bit too short for me. But who cares, it's a summer weight shirt and the sleeves should be rolled up anyway to achieve the rough and adventurous look!

All I need now is that Rigby double rifle! lol

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e153/Lizard-of-Oz/DSC_0018.jpg

I picked one up in olive couple of weeks ago. Nice shirt...for under $20 it's going to be hard to beat.

[Mojave Jack]

Thanks for the tip, Mike! I tried one but alas, the sleeves, again! Oh, well.

I'm still looking for that white safari style shirt, but no luck. I'm considering just having one made, but I just can't rationalize about $80 for a white shirt I'll beat up! There's got to be one out there somewhere in a tall (and not in polyester). I've even tried lookig for a security guard shirt, since they have a lot of the features, but the darn things are all polyester. Uggh!

[thunderw21]

...try these monsters:

http://www.majorsurplusnsurvival.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=MSS&Product_Code=086810&Category_Co

They're French surplus similar to WW2 M43 double buckle boots. You can either keep the cuff or cut it off above the seventh eyelet like I did.
You can waterproof them by either putting 'dubbing' on them or putting several coats of olive oil on the leather. I used the olive oil and it also loosens them up a bit, it is very stiff leather and will take a while to break in but it is well worth it. The leather is roughout. They will last you a lifetime.
Here is a picture of mine (I cut off the lugs on the sole and also the cuff at the top so I can reenact with them):
http://photos-229.ak.facebook.com/ip002/v45/198/25/110800350/n110800350_30116229_7144.jpg

Cheers,
Billy

[Viola]

I'll have to take a look maybe they'l have some 2XL. Any short sleeved ones? My friends have always had good luck with hiking shorts from Target.

I was thinking the same thing though for slightly different reason; my INSEAM isn't 33 inches.

Stupid tall people.:eusa_doh: ;)

-Viola

[scotrace]

...try these monsters:

http://www.majorsurplusnsurvival.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=MSS&Product_Code=086810&Category_Co

They're French surplus similar to WW2 M43 double buckle boots. You can either keep the cuff or cut it off above the seventh eyelet like I did.
You can waterproof them by either putting 'dubbing' on them or putting several coats of olive oil on the leather. I used the olive oil and it also loosens them up a bit, it is very stiff leather and will take a while to break in but it is well worth it. The leather is roughout. They will last you a lifetime.
Here is a picture of mine (I cut off the lugs on the sole and also the cuff at the top so I can reenact with them):
http://photos-229.ak.facebook.com/ip002/v45/198/25/110800350/n110800350_30116229_7144.jpg

Cheers,
Billy


Do yours seem to run big or small? Are they well made? That is a remarkable price...

[carebear]

I was thinking the same thing though for slightly different reason; my INSEAM isn't 33 inches.

Stupid tall people.:eusa_doh: ;)

-Viola

No reason to get short there Stumpy McDwarf. lol

[John in Covina]

I used to work about a 10 minute drive from them, always fun to peruse the isles and see what is parked out front.

[Viola]

No reason to get short there Stumpy McDwarf. lol

Oh my God....another Godzilla sighting! Someone warn Tokyo!

-Viola

[carebear]

Oh my God....another Godzilla sighting! Someone warn Tokyo!

-Viola

In Japan I'm known as "carejiro".

[thunderw21]

Do yours seem to run big or small? Are they well made? That is a remarkable price...

I ordered the largest size they had, size 12, and they fit me well (I wear size 12). They are extremely well made. They were made in the late 1950s, early 1960s so quality isn't an issue. The only problem is that they take a long time to break them in. I've had mine for over a year and they still aren't broken in, close though (plus, I haven't worn them a great deal until a month ago). Olive oil works great for water proofing, it doesn't clog the pores like other oils and loosens and darkens the leather. I've slogged through deep puddles all day in these and my feet stayed dry.
As for Majors Surplus, they're a good business. Customer service was friendly. It took a month to get the boots but that may have been the shipping company and they were well worth the wait.
They are quality boots for a great price and will last forever (I have a feeling these are going to be with me for the rest of my life, no joke).
Billy

p.s. And boy are they heavy. I get a workout everytime I wear them.

[Kodiak]

Does that link not work for anybody else? For some reason it is screwed up when I click.

[thunderw21]

Does that link not work for anybody else? For some reason it is screwed up when I click.

Another member contacted me and said they are sold out. Strange since they restocked them just a couple months ago. They must have sold fast.

[Mojave Jack]

Another member contacted me and said they are sold out. Strange since they restocked them just a couple months ago. They must have sold fast.
Drat! I moved too slow! Cursed government computer! Imagine blocking the Lounge! I suppose they expect me to work while I'm there now! lol

[scotrace]

I looked all over the site and they seem to be gone.

Plug it on The Fedora Lounge; it'll be sold out by sunset.

[Mojave Jack]

Wow! Gotta move fast around this joint!

[Indy Magnoli]

Just finished these boots for someone and, though they are a bank-buster compared to that super deal posted above, thought you guys would like to see them:

https://host385.ipowerweb.com/~indyprop/osCommerce/catalog/images/clothiers/mc-explorer-lg1.jpghttps://host385.ipowerweb.com/~indyprop/osCommerce/catalog/images/clothiers/mc-explorer-lg2.jpg

Alternatively, they can be made with low-profile lugs, flat rubber of standard leather soles. Let me know what you think of them.

Kind regards,
Indy

[carebear]

https://host385.ipowerweb.com/~indyprop/osCommerce/catalog/images/clothiers/mc-explorer-lg1.jpghttps://host385.ipowerweb.com/~indyprop/osCommerce/catalog/images/clothiers/mc-explorer-lg2.jpg

Let me know what you think of them.

I have to Shout It Out Loud, those are Hotter Than Hell and would make you the King of the Night Time World.

:D

[John in Covina]

Similar to the boots Jack Black wore in the King Kong remake. And very darn cool.

[Mark G]

Mike K turned me on to this thread. I've been to quite a few places in Kenya and Tanzania and the thing that surprised me is how pedestrian everyone looked on safari. A lot of very cheap canvas hats and vests with thousands of pockets. (I admit I own one too). The picture is of my wife and myself on a horse back safari in Ndarakwai, Tanzania. I apologize for the henley, I had an appropriate shirt, but as the temp went up, the shirt was history. After traveling light I have decided to go higher tech on my next trip. The modern fabrics seem to hold up better on repeated wearings. I'm still looking for a pair of boots to replace my old Cole Hahn's so thanks for the ideas.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t167/Mark_G_luthier/IMG_1186.jpg

[Martinis at 8]

Mark G

If you don't mind ankle-high boots, try the Pro-Walker suede from Rockport.

M8

[cooper]

How is this for some adventure gear prob worn by one of my all time favourite adventurer's

http://gfx.dagbladet.no/magasinet/2003/05/06/mallory1.jpg

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/everest/exposure/gear.html

http://www.trekking24.com/lhakpari/wp-content/themes/connections/images/everest1924-gruppe-mallory.jpg

Ken
Theres another obsession of mine...Everest.

[Mojave Jack]

Great pic, Mark! You guys look so casual, what with there being an elephant and giraffes about 50 yards away. A horseback safari sounds incredible. I'd love to see more pics.

I've seen recommendations for going on safari going two directions. Half say wear the khaki safari-type gear because it was designed for those conditions and is what works. The other half say don't wear them because the locals hate that look due to the colonial overtones. What was your experience gear-wise?

[BellyTank]

Greetings all-
I'm back from the Antipodes, The Gilf Kebir and Shanghai...

Puttees- no... but russet Paddock boots, a pair of WW1 pigskin boot-gaiters and a similar vintage canvas pair...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3467.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3465.jpg
The boots were $40-something off of eBay.

BAGGERS! you may notice the British, brown leather chinstrap on the Hermann cap...
I have a spare(NOS), if you are in need.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3468.jpg
My own, custom Safari hat attempt. The Lawrance Pug will no doubt make way for a home folded linen job- or maybe that strip of Cheetah skin I have lurking... grrrr....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3470.jpg
Other recent and relevant acquisitions from the Empires...

Enfield bandolier, Boer War and WW1 vintage belts, 1937 dated (NOS)Italian Sahariana jacket/bush shirt, WW1 pocketwatch and '30s Sola Topee.

****Speaking of General Adventurer Threads...

...Check out my '30s Alpine ensemble here...

http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?p=297077#post297077

Regards,

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[BellyTank]

More of the 1937 Sahariana jacket/bush shirt...

Sorry about the blurry- trying to avoid using flash, in order to preserve colour.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3473.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3474.jpg

This Sahariana fits me!
It has very high armholes and narrow sleeves- the cloth is a very tightly woven cotton Sateen, rather than normal twill/drill.
The buttons are flat, shanked brown plastic.

I like it.

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[BellyTank]

...YES-

More Khaki... and yet more Khaki...

I have some time on my hands over the next few days, so will be able to take more pics of my junk- a mixture of true vintage and cunningly crafted fancies...

And maybe a vintage rucksack exposE... I have more than a few now.

Watch this space- or remind me... should I become side-tracked.

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[Nathan Flowers]

That is an incredible ensemble. The attention to detail is stunning.

[Baron Kurtz]

need some info on that (pink) shirt, M. Tank.

bk

[cookie]

More of the 1937 Sahariana jacket/bush shirt...

Sorry about the blurry- trying to avoid using flash, in order to preserve colour.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3473.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3474.jpg

This Sahariana fits me!
It has very high armholes and narrow sleeves- the cloth is a very tightly woven cotton Sateen, rather than normal twill/drill.
The buttons are flat, shanked brown plastic.

I like it.

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Attention MojaveJ : this is almost the one I had made in BKK from the Indian Khaki cloth matching an Aussie/UK jacket. The Italian styling in this one is superior but the belt across the waist is a poor relation.

[Speedster]

More of the 1937 Sahariana jacket/bush shirt...

Sorry about the blurry- trying to avoid using flash, in order to preserve colour.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3473.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3474.jpg

This Sahariana fits me!
It has very high armholes and narrow sleeves- the cloth is a very tightly woven cotton Sateen, rather than normal twill/drill.
The buttons are flat, shanked brown plastic.

I like it.

B
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This is very, very cool BT. The Sahariana, isn't that the Italian M40 Tropical jacket?

[BellyTank]

That is an incredible ensemble. The attention to detail is stunning.


Thanks Zohar-
If you liked this one, be sure to check out my Alpine one...
http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?p=297093#post297093

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[BellyTank]

This is very, very cool BT. The Sahariana, isn't that the Italian M40 Tropical jacket?

Very similar but this is an earlier example- it has a few differences- as do individual M40s, of course...
But Sahariana, as a term, is generic for Italian for a Bush Shirt/Jacket style garment.

Thanks Speedster.

[BellyTank]

Attention MojaveJ : this is almost the one I had made in BKK from the Indian Khaki cloth matching an Aussie/UK jacket. The Italian styling in this one is superior but the belt across the waist is a poor relation.

Sorry-
exactly what's a poor relation..? belt..? referring to my one, or your one..?

Please clarify-

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[BellyTank]

need some info on that (pink) shirt, M. Tank.

bk

"That Pink shirt" is yet another repro- this time, from a German vendor.
It's an interpretation of a Luftwaffe tropical shirt- and it's the nicest example I've seen, with the best styling and detailing. Nice pointy collar, brown metal buttons and the cloth is like... coton/linen/homespun style. After seeing so-so many so-so copies with the vintage styling totally lost on 21st C boys, I pulled the proverbial on this one...

It does actually have a pink-ish hue about it- which is good too.

Thanks
B
K,

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[scotrace]

Must find... paper bag....

[BellyTank]

Must find... paper bag....

I have a great paper bag from a Royal Geographical Society 1929 Libyan Desert topo mission,
with which your hue of complexion would be perfectly matched.
(was that Churchill, or Yoda)

Kinda greenish...

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[Speedster]

"That Pink shirt" is yet another repro- this time, from a German vendor.
It's an interpretation of a Luftwaffe tropical shirt- and it's the nicest example I've seen, with the best styling and detailing. Nice pointy collar, brown metal buttons and the cloth is like... coton/linen/homespun style. After seeing so-so many so-so copies with the vintage styling totally lost on 21st C boys, I pulled the proverbial on this one...

It does actually have a pink-ish hue about it- which is good too.

Thanks
B
K,

B
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That German vendor...can you reveal a link to him?

[cookie]

Sorry-
exactly what's a poor relation..? belt..? referring to my one, or your one..?

Please clarify-

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Sorry BT I did not mean to be perjorative by that old boy ...I meant my template jacket had a more substantial wider belt with a bigger buckle and widish eyelets (in the UK tropical style) that gave it a better look in that area IMHO. By the way is that a belt back safari jacket I see before me in photo 1?. Any chance of some more pix of that back and front?

[BellyTank]

Sorry BT I did not mean to be perjorative by that I meant my template jacket had a more substantial wider belt with a bigger buckle and widish eyelets that gave it a better look in that area IMHO.


No problemo at all-o.

Was just wondering specifically what.
You're a meany- calling a piece of (a piece of)vintage clothing a poor relation to a modern confection though...
You hurt my Saharianas feelings...:(

Take care-

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[Feraud]

That is some fine gear BT! Makes me want to hunt tiger. :)

[Nick Charles]

Tank you are the man, great stuff.:eusa_clap

[BellyTank]

Thanks a bunch Feraud and Nick-

If I was The Man, then I would want you two as chief minnions.

Alas, I am just A man.

But I think I have my moments- like we all do.

But this is the stuff I love- is it showing..?

So we'll just have to be good friends.

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[Alan Eardley]

This is very, very cool BT. The Sahariana, isn't that the Italian M40 Tropical jacket?

Lovely jacket. It's the same basic style as an M40 but it's a nicer jacket than the examples I have seen. The M40 has fewer front buttons (three if my memory serves me) and they are larger and made from wood (!)

A guy named Keith in Hong Kong makes reasonable M40 reproductions (also the collarless version), and the breeches to go with them.

SoF has Afrika Korps 'pink' shirts and trousers as well as the cap.

BT, have you thought about DAK sand goggles (also from SoF)?

Alan

[BellyTank]

Hi Alan-

we(me and someone else...) were just discussing the HK Saharianas in another thread- here:

http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?p=297215&posted=1#post297215

I know "Keith" and his wares, as do a few other FLoungers.

I have another pair (maybe 2)of goggles on the way to me-
proper ones, made from leather and glass.

The wartime Saharianas seem to be all over the place re: details- officialyl and privately tailored examples, etc. and of course there were shirt-style and jacket styles, which confuses the issue further. I'm ignoring the German versions here.

There are some basic æsthetics which make a Sahariana look like a Sahariana- or not the button relationship, the curve in the yoke scalloping- collar shapes- some examples look nicer than others. For example- if the breast pocket buttons line up horizontally with a "front" button, it looks far better than not lining up. Small details- interesting to me...

Alan- Saharianas did seem to traditionally have fruitwood buttons but plastic seems quite common.

I like 'em.

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[Alan Eardley]

Hi Alan-

we(me and someone else...) were just discussing the HK Saharianas in another thread- here:

http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?p=297215&posted=1#post297215

I know "Keith" and his wares, as do a few other FLoungers.

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Followed the link - I agree with your conclusions.

Originals are obtainable and IMO are preferable for a number of reasons, as you say.

Alan

[Mojave Jack]

Great galloping gorillas!! So many questions, BT, where to start? OK, the simple one first: which rucksack is that? And where can I get one, of course?

Second, those sunglasses! Awesome! Details?

And those canvas leggings! I've been searching for a servicable pair of those for years. Please tell me you found them in a little shop you know of, and there are many more pairs there for your friends. lol Those and the similarly styled canvas/leather riding boots.

I like your custom safari hat a lot. In fact, my Akubra is a similar color, and I don't really like the issue pug with it either. The shades are not complimentary, and I've been trying to decide what color is should be. If not the cheetah skin, perhaps a forest or slightly darker than sage green?

Cookie, please post pics of your Sahariana , too.

[Nick Charles]

speaking of rucks I saw this in the Bass pro catalog the other day
http://hires.basspro.com/is/servlet/izoom/BassPro/16516?layer=comp&wid=500&hei=500&fmt=jpeg&qlt=100,0&op_sharpen=0&resMode=norm&op_usm=1.0,1.0,0.0,0

The bob timber lake rucksack $159.

[BellyTank]

OK- here's a sampling- there are more, I'm sure but well buried-

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3475.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3478.jpg
Mojavejack- this is the one you were asking about- it's modern but vintage accurate- see the Rucksack thread- mentioned below for details-


See the new thread- "Show us your Vintage Rucksacks!"
Here: http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?p=298112#post298112

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[BellyTank]

Great galloping gorillas!! So many questions, BT, where to start? OK, the simple one first: which rucksack is that? And where can I get one, of course?

Second, those sunglasses! Awesome! Details?

And those canvas leggings! I've been searching for a servicable pair of those for years. Please tell me you found them in a little shop you know of, and there are many more pairs there for your friends. lol Those and the similarly styled canvas/leather riding boots.

I like your custom safari hat a lot. In fact, my Akubra is a similar color, and I don't really like the issue pug with it either. The shades are not complimentary, and I've been trying to decide what color is should be. If not the cheetah skin, perhaps a forest or slightly darker than sage green?


Mojavejack- see the Rucksack thread for the Rucksack details-

The sunglasses are early RAF sunglasses with leather side blinkers.
The canvas leggings were from eBay of course- $10.

The Safari hat(not a very flattering photo) is still very much a work in progress. It is actually an Old West style hat, which had a 7" open crown. It's a nice heavy hat, which is what I needed. The tall crown provides much room for styling. The colour is spot-on for my particular vintage safari ?¶sthetic.
I think I prefer a lighter, rather than darker Pug- the Cheetah skin might just be the classic look though- what better than Cheetah skin..?

Thanks for your positive comments!

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[BellyTank]

This is the Summer, 1934 Collection from the House of BT.

Some more Khaki (and friendly...)items, some of which, you guys may or may not have seen before...

I have collected and manufactured an eclectic assortment of British Empire, Italian, German and French Imperial tropical clothing and gear, suitable for my continued outings into the Libyan Desert....
...the period encompassed is mid '20s to mid '40s.

I'd like to think that the 1920's/'30s Desert Explorer would use Military Surplus clothing and gear, blended with his/her own items, in order to have a practically proven, yet personalised collection- so- such an individual would conceivably be in possession of items dating from the late 19thC, through to the '20s/'30s.
That is my ethic, æsthetic and timeline brief- I believe it makes some sense.

Here are a few more ensembles and close-ups of clothing and prop gear.
God bless the digital camera!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3483.jpg
This group includes a "home made" unlined/non-interlined(totally natural), Khaki drill 3 button jacket, in a "sporty", practical, launder-able cut, with '20s style, cloverleaf collar, reverse pleat breast pockets, welt buttonholes and high-set, muti-pleat belted back/open pleat skirt. The trousers are WW1 pattern German "fatigues" in a broad, crisp herringbone twill, vaguely over-dyed(from white) in khaki, with a rear cinch-belt and used here with Boer War era, non-elastic braces and same era, canvas twill "snake clasp" belt- this belt is a narrower variant, which works with trousers. The hat is nice a white fur felt of undetermined age.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3484.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3485.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3486.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3487.jpg
This shot shows detail of the back of the 3 button jacket and HBT trousers.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3488.jpg
Sahariana contrived Bush Shirt(a shirt with skirt pockets), which looks great worn without anything beneath and the sleeves rolled up. WW1 Bedford Cord Breeches, broad Boer War waist belt, French water bottle, Enfield Shoulder Bandolier, Paddock Boots with Canvas leggings, and another style of Topee.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3490.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3491.jpg
French Colonial khaki jacket with multi-pleated belted back and brass buttons. The front-most trousers are the matching pair- the middle pair, I had made, with wide legs and a fishtail cinch-back.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3492.jpg
The 3 button jacket, as in the first pic- showing some detail and the "home made" trousers mentioned in the previous pic.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3493.jpg
Late War British Khaki Bush Shirt(which the Sahariana styled one was modelled after) and British "Smocks, Drab" in a very faded khaki drill.
These were apparently used by the LRDG in the their desert campaigns.

I hope these long, rambling posts tickle the imagination and highlight the joy and of eclectic collections of "stuff" in assembling a slap-dash, yet practical and period-correct "Vintage Explorer" type impression.
I hope I am as thorough as I think I am- time, family duties and funds allowing.
This is one of the true joys of my life.

What you can get, you get- what you can't, you need to make.


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[Speedster]

I'm speechless. Amazing stuff. WOW:eusa_clap :eusa_clap The new King of Khaki.

[BellyTank]

For the Commonwealth Commando on Crete...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3494.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3495.jpg


Aertex shirt, khaki trou, Smocks Drab, Caps Comforter, RAF sunglasses, mountain cap(my size), Airborne model water bottle and German tropical model.



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[BellyTank]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3496.jpg

Luftwaffe shirt, leather waistcoat, floppy khaki hat and more khaki trousers.

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[Speedster]

:eusa_clap :eusa_clap :eusa_clap

Are these trousers modelled on the C.O.W.S. trousers??

[BellyTank]

...something a little smarter...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3497.jpg

The linen suit, white fur-felt Fedora, ubiquitous RAF sunglasses and the Turkish Officer's pocketwatch-
-WW1 booty, no doubt...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3498.jpg


Phew...
I'm done for now...

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[BellyTank]

:eusa_clap :eusa_clap :eusa_clap

Are these trousers modelled on the C.O.W.S. trousers??

Nope-
they're my own, vintage reflecting confection...

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[BellyTank]

Give me a few hours, or days and I'll add to the Alpine theme with some cold weather outerwear...

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[BellyTank]

... I'll add this post from the "Ski Clothing" thread, due to the total Adventurer-ness of it.
That and some context for the cold weather gear to come...

And since it gives me the opportunity to put all my junk in the same place.

Ski- Alpine clothing...
...this lacks the context of the original thread where VladimirBerkov posed the question of where to obtain '30s-ish
Ski Attire. I didn't answer his question but most of this was from eBay.

From here:
http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?t=18143

...repro Panzer trousers in black- classic, '30s civilian style Ski pants.
That's what I have. Another fave pair, are the WW2 and post-war Swiss Army trousers(still see them in surplus and on eBay), which have a blue/grey hue and a thin black piping down the leg seam(they also have an adjustable, blouse-able leg). Both are absolutely excellent and can achieve the "Tin Tin leg".

Anoraks and Windjacke of course.

One of my favourite civilian Alpine ensembles has the black Panzer trou., heavy, cream roll-neck sweater, black single button Panzer cap(adorned with Alpine badges), boots and thick cream wool socks, turned down. Of course, I have a leather kletterjacke, canvas Windjacke and cotton duck Gebirgs. Anorak. Don't forget the goggles!

I don't get many opportunities to wear this getup though... in the city...

The vintage skis, etc., are another cookie but relatively abundant on eBay- but make sure you know what lenght of skis you require.
They are also a favourite "wall-hanging", so prices can get silly sometimes.


BUT-
knowing that I always offer a lot of words around my famous/infamous/existent/non-existent "ensembles", and having just photographed a small selection...
here you go-

Maybe not STRICTLY a Skiing ensemble but it's definitely Vintage, Northern European Alpine.

This collection may tickle you... I even have matching jewellery...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3460.jpg
Repro Panzer trou, roll neck sweater, '30s leather Kletterweste(climbing jacket- very HJ/BDM style but civilian), repro single button cap(with 1914-16 Tyrolean WW1 participant commemorative Edelweiss badge), etc.... The boots and socks are oldies- I even have some Styrian gaiters...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3461.jpg
Even a vintage karabiner... oh and pocketwatch hanging on the watch ring...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3463.jpg
Silver Eichenlaub and horn jewellery, as a vintage flourish... This set has brooch, ring AND cufflinks!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3462.jpg
These are the Swiss trou and a Swiss Army sweater.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3464.jpg
Oh- don't forget the vintage Rucksack!!!

Too hot to wear this getup-


Hope you like this!


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[Speedster]

Holy macaroni. You must have a closet the size of Buckingham Palace.:)

[BellyTank]

No- just a room with all of this stuff on the floor and piled high on every available surface- in no particular order.

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[cookie]

Is this what you are talking about Generale BT?

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/791/saharianafrontmp3.th.jpg (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=saharianafrontmp3.jpg) http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3093/saharianabackviewwm1.th.jpg (http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=saharianabackviewwm1.jpg) http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5281/saharianpocketdetailxj6.th.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=saharianpocketdetailxj6.jpg) http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/5476/saharianasleevesandcuffmu9.th.jpg (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=saharianasleevesandcuffmu9.jpg) http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/707/saharianpantsyd2.th.jpg (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=saharianpantsyd2.jpg)

[BellyTank]

Cool!
Tell me about it.

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[Hemingway Jones]

Belly Tank,

You are the kid with all the cool toys!

Awesome stuff! That is a jaw-dropping collection of safari jackets.

[BellyTank]

Thanks Hemingway-

Your JPterman VF jacket and thread was some of the inspiration for my
3 button home-grown belt-pleat-back jacket. Actually.

Consider yourself inspiration.

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[Mojave Jack]

I'm with Scott...can't breathe...need that paper sack...

(the 1929 expedition one will do nicely, thanks!)

BT, that is a simply astounding collection! The one thing you didn't mention was the leather case early on. Compass or pocket transit?

OK, I gotta get over to the rucksack thread now. 'Scuse me...

[BellyTank]

Watch case, leather.

B,
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[carebear]

Got a vintage pocketknife?

[BellyTank]

... I do...

You obviously want to show yours...

Please... be my guest!

Go on.

B
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[cooper]

... I do...

You obviously want to show yours...

Please... be my guest!

Go on.

B
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I would be interested in the pocketknives as well.I have a modest collection of antique knives.

[BellyTank]

Let's see 'em Cooper!

B
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[cooper]

Let's see 'em Cooper!

B
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I'll snap some photos when I get a chance.

[Mike K.]

To be one with everything, you must have one of everything.;)

You win BT

That's an absolutely amazing collection!!
:eusa_clap :eusa_clap :eusa_clap

[cookie]

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=014&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=330108833444&rd=1&rd=1

They don't get better than this even a pix of his decorazioni

[cookie]

...something a little smarter...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3497.jpg

The linen suit, white fur-felt Fedora, ubiquitous RAF sunglasses and the Turkish Officer's pocketwatch-
-WW1 booty, no doubt...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3498.jpg


Phew...
I'm done for now...

B
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Can we have some straight up and down pix of that linen suit SVP BT?


Your costume makeups have been the highlight of the Lounge for me. Right on the money ...you are a genius of re-creation. What a great hobby....you shoulda been in pitchers....

C

[Mojave Jack]

BT, tellme about that brown enamel water bottle with the 1927 date.

[Speedster]

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=014&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=330108833444&rd=1&rd=1

They don't get better than this even a pix of his decorazioni

Yearh. I followed it, but no bidding from me though.

[BellyTank]

BT, tellme about that brown enamel water bottle with the 1927 date.

Swiss, eBay, peanuts.

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[BellyTank]

Can we have some straight up and down pix of that linen suit SVP BT?
Your costume makeups have been the highlight of the Lounge for me. Right on the money ...you are a genius of re-creation. What a great hobby....you shoulda been in pitchers....
C

***Maybe- sometime soon but not today...

***Thanks- I would have love to have been in pitchers.

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[Mojave Jack]

Swiss, eBay, peanuts.

B
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Hmm, I see. It looks like they switched to black by WWII. I'll have to keep my eye out for the brown ones. They look like they hold about a pint or a pint and a half?

[Mark G]

Wow BellyTank, thats impressive. Thank you.

This picture was taken on El-Karama ranch in the Kenyan highlands near Nanuki. When we started out on a morning walking safari you had to dress warm as it could get quite cold at 6,000 feet. The polar fleece shooting vest may not be vintage but it did the trick. By the time this pic was taken the sleeves were rolled up and the silk bandana off, but I was still comfortable. Our regular guide decided to stay in his banda, he was terrified of going out without the protection of a vehicle. Before we left he told me all I needed now was a rifle. Ah yes, a Holland and Holland double in .416 Rigby. The .458 Winchester Mag in our guides hands is impressive to be sure... but does it shoot and if so how proficient is he.?



http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t167/Mark_G_luthier/IMG_0227.jpg

[cooper]

Let's see 'em Cooper!

B
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Here's a few of my favorites..No name on this one.English or German...Leatherman got his idea from.....
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f104/navihawk/P1010048.jpg
The three blade is a New York Knife co.Hammer Brand. The Buffalo horn handle has a couple of worm holes to give it character.Sorry for the poor pictures.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f104/navihawk/P1010047.jpg

This ones from Austria
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f104/navihawk/P1010046.jpg

Took the pictures on an old TV cabinet

[Alan Eardley]

Can we have some straight up and down pix of that linen suit SVP BT?


Cookie,

Old-Town in Norfolk do a linen suit that is quite similar to BT's excellent example. You would need the Borough or Marshalsea jacket with the High Rise trousers and waistcoat in Mushroom shade Irish (that's Ulster...) linen.

Alan

[BellyTank]

Here's a little more- some of the gear has been previously posted but there is some new stuff-
new assemblages. Some alternative choices and combinations for Hiking and Climbing in Vintage Style,
in colder climes...
I don't think I need to show a length of rope...

My "Star" Anorak has gone missing for the moment but when I find it, I will update this post.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3582.jpg

Swedish Army , woollen undershirt, Swiss Army Sweater and suitable woollen Swiss Army Trousers.
Sturdy boots and canvas (Styrian style) Gaiters, Carved Walking Stick, in a traditional folk design,
complete with Wolf's Head handle- from the Carpathian Mountains, a Bergen Rucksack and an assortment
of suitable headwear...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3583.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3584.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3585.jpg

German, Gebirgsjæger(Mountain Troop) Windjacke(Windjacket).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3586.jpg

Swedish Anorak/Smock, 1930s Swedish civilian Goatskin jacket, in a sporty, Adventuring style
and another style of boot.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3587.jpg

Tan, high-waisted trousers, braces, white roll neck sweater, Shoulder bag and the '30s Swedish, goatskin jacket again.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3588.jpg

Ski Goggles, clear celluloid Wind Goggles and a Whistle(bone) and Lanyard.

The Swedish Anorak is a type readily available as Surplus and can be had in white, tan and green.
I have several. See previous postings of Alpine gear for a British Army Smock/Anorak, which I have not included here.



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[Speedster]

BT you continue to amaze. This is very impressive:eusa_clap

[cookie]

That fancy stick is a corker where did you gedditt?

[BellyTank]

Here is my "Hermann Meyer Cap"(a WW2 German Luftwaffe style of Tropical cap). The style goes back much further than WW2- back to the Kolonien...

I have thoroughly aged it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3591.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3592.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3590.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/DSCN3589.jpg


It has been washed and had colour removed from wear points and the top of the crown.
The only pre-ageing picture I have of it is back in post #155.
It has also been shaped into a style more to my liking.
The original(black)leather chinstrap has been removed and I have tried a brown one from a WW2 British cap but I may make a new one from some suitable leather I have. It will get a home made leather sweatband/crown stiffener.
A work in progress.
Maybe this goes some way to showing what an... enthusiast I am.

A great piece of Desert Adventuring headwear, nonetheless-
The neck flap is a very useful addition- against the bleaching, Desert sun.
Now I just need an Imperial German cockade for it...

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[Nick Charles]

more great stuff. Is that shoulder bag from Digger?

[Hemingway Jones]

...My J. Peterman Victoria Falls jacket and Bill's khakis in the wilds of Old Town Scottsdale, Arizona.

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/632/adventurerix9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

It is a little bit of khaki tuxedo, but I think it looks good. ;)

[BellyTank]

more great stuff. Is that shoulder bag from Digger?

LO in AU.
Actually.

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[BellyTank]

...My J. Peterman Victoria Falls jacket and Bill's khakis in the wilds of Old Town Scottsdale, Arizona.
It is a little bit of khaki tuxedo, but I think it looks good. ;)


Very smart indeed Mr. Jones.

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[cookie]

...My J. Peterman Victoria Falls jacket and Bill's khakis in the wilds of Old Town Scottsdale, Arizona.

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/632/adventurerix9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

It is a little bit of khaki tuxedo, but I think it looks good. ;)

Apart from looking pretty smooth a la BT are you going to really hurt a guy by telling me you spent the rest of the day going over FLW's Taliesin West studio museum?

[Hemingway Jones]

Apart from looking pretty smooth a la BT are you going to really hurt a guy by telling me you spent the rest of the day going over FLW's Taliesin West studio museum?
Nope, I missed that one, but I ate some ice cream at The Sugar Bowl. ;)

I need to meet up with BT sometime soon. I need to get to the UK.:)

[Nick Charles]

Thanks BT that was my mistake Lawrence is what I was thinking of. Do you ever wear these ensambles out?? Any pics of them in action?

[Nick Charles]

Great Look Hem, But wheres your hat?

[BellyTank]

I need to meet up with BT sometime soon.
I need to get to the UK.:)

BUT... I'm in Copenhagen, Denmark.
Leave it a year and I'll be established in Stockholm, Sweden.

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[BellyTank]

Thanks BT that was my mistake Lawrence is what I was thinking of. Do you ever wear these ensambles out?? Any pics of them in action?

I knew you meant Lawrance.

I don't usually wear full adventuring ensembles on the street- not generally required. I do mix and match a lot though.

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[Hemingway Jones]

BUT... I'm in Copenhagen, Denmark.
Leave it a year and I'll be established in Stockholm, Sweden.

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Well, wherever you are, I will find you. :)

[BellyTank]

Well, wherever you are, I will find you. :)

Uh..oh...

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[carebear]

Well, wherever you are, I will find you.


Uh..oh...

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No, you submit, do you hear? You be strong, you survive... You stay alive, no matter what occurs! I will find you. No matter how long it takes, no matter how far, I will find you!

[Vladimir Berkov]

BT, how did you go about aging that Hermann Meyer cap?

[Mojave Jack]

No, you submit, do you hear? You be strong, you survive... You stay alive, no matter what occurs! I will find you. No matter how long it takes, no matter how far, I will find you!
Easy there, Hawkeye! lol

[BellyTank]

BT, how did you go about aging that Hermann Meyer cap?

Well- you can't quite see the full effect and contrast in the pics....

If you really must know-

I put a wire from another officer style cap in the crown, around the piped edge,
used the rough side of a scotchbrite to take away some finish- same thing with the scotchbrite on the peak and on al the seams and high edges.
Handwashed it in hot water and washing powder for a white wash, to remove some dye- scothbrite'd the top of the crown in a circular motion in the middle to take out more colour. When it was dry, I painted strong coffe and tea solution around the low spots and wear place to make it dirty. When finished and dry, it looked too dirty, so I rinsed it out gently to remove the excess soiling. I kept the wire in the crown, to keep it stretched- shaped the crown to the desired look and dried it on a hot radiator. It now retains the shape, with the wire removed. I bought this cap one size too large, with this procedure and wetting/drying in mind. It was a s60, now it fits like a 59.

et voila!

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[BellyTank]

Did you see/like my Alpine gear..?

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[Vladimir Berkov]

Did you see/like my Alpine gear..?

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Yep! It is sweet. I am in the process of putting together my own Alpine gear. I have a reproduction German gebirgs-jager cap, and I can use my WW2 German keilhosen trousers as skiing pants. I also have a pair of WW2 Italian mountain goggles. The only thing I really need now is a good jacket or coat to go with the whole deal.