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Dinerman
10-24-2006, 01:09 PM
This has probably been covered before, but I had a question, and I couldn't find my answer with the search tool.

Is there anywhere that you can buy a wind string separate from a hat?

The reason I ask is, my birthday is coming up and my parents have made noises about buying me a new (as in actually new, not just new to me) hat, and I thought it would be cool to have one on it.

If so- what would be involved in putting it on? Just a stitch through the felt? or is it more than that?

Dinerman
10-24-2006, 03:12 PM
help?

undertaker
10-24-2006, 04:52 PM
I don't know about buying one seperate, but I just purchased a new fur fedora from the Fedora Store that has a wind cord. I thought that I noticed a few others He had that were equiped with wind cords as well. Not much help I know but here it is for what its worth.

Regards,
J.S.

Dinerman
10-24-2006, 05:01 PM
yeah- the hat I think they were thinking of was this one
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j164/dinerman/th_big_apple1.jpg (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j164/dinerman/big_apple1.jpg)
The thing about this hat that did it for me is the wide pleated band. Any other hats out there with this look?

undertaker
10-24-2006, 05:03 PM
Check these outhttp://millerhats.com/borsalino_hats/borsalino2.htm

I am not familiar with the vendor but they have wind cords.

Regards,
J.S.

nulty
10-24-2006, 05:08 PM
Contact either Besdor or Duane at the Fedorastore..I'm fairly certainn Duane posted once about being able to add a wind trolley...

Duane If I'm incorrect I apologize......

it's worth a try

analogist
10-24-2006, 07:52 PM
Our own besdor has them in his stores. Check www.bencraft.com for the
phone number.

adamgottschalk
10-24-2006, 11:47 PM
I happen to think they add that extra touch of class to a hat. Last time I was actually in person to a "hat guy," he had dozens of trolleys (elastic type cords with a button at the end) hanging on his peg board. Yes, I think a simple stitch or two through the felt, just under the bottom of the ribbon, is the thing.

Shanghailander
10-25-2006, 03:40 AM
Funny that this post came up now!

I just arrived in the Shetland Islands - wearing my Biltmore Fedora. As soon as I stepped off the boat, a gust of wind blew my lid across a large lot and it continued to skid and roll, pickup up cement dust the whole way. I had to drop all my luggage and vault a barrier marked " No Public Access" and sprint thirty yards to recapture it. I then spent ten minutes cleaning it off!

The irony is the hat has a wind cord! They don't work if you don't use them.

I have experimented and mine now all attach inside the hat, so the cord hangs down behind my ear when I am using them - not over the brim, which occurs when they are sewn under the band and wound around the base.

Greg
currently in the Shetland Islands

besdor
10-25-2006, 04:23 AM
Windcords are mostly used on better hats today . Borsalino uses them and Biltmore will use them on their better hats if you ask for it. If anyone wants one , we can provide them in two ways. One way is where you just slide it over the hat and the other is where it needs to be tacked on to the hat . Just let me know the color needed . They are hard to get today.

Steven

MattC
10-25-2006, 11:14 AM
If you run the cord to the back instead of over the front, they don't look so strange. And they do work.

MattC
10-25-2006, 11:15 AM
Is the "slide it over" the hat one just for show? If not, how does it work?

Rick Blaine
10-25-2006, 12:19 PM
I just bought a lovely vintage black LEE brand fedora (Adventure model)
http://i1.ebayimg.com/02/i/08/b9/9c/44_1.JPGand it has something I had never seen, a strictly decorative "wind trolley" that was as described here; a black elastic string attached to a button and simply "looped over" the crown. It is entirely cosmetic and unusable as a retaining device... "How very odd" I thinks...

The Duke
10-25-2006, 12:24 PM
I happen to think they add that extra touch of class to a hat. Last time I was actually in person to a "hat guy," he had dozens of trolleys (elastic type cords with a button at the end) hanging on his peg board. Yes, I think a simple stitch or two through the felt, just under the bottom of the ribbon, is the thing.

I agree, it does that extra touch of class for my wormser.

Shanghailander
10-26-2006, 01:25 PM
If you run the cord to the back instead of over the front, they don't look so strange. And they do work.

Amen! Today, I took the Highland Chieftain down from Aberdeen and got off at Carlisle. It was WINDY! Having learned my lesson my hat was secured before I left the train. Once I got out of the station, LOOK OUT! It was so blustery my hat was blown off three times - one time the button actually ripped out through my shirt buttonhole - fortunately after I had caught the hat.

The funniest episode was when a gust from behind blew it out in front of me. As the hat reached the end of the cord, it curved to the left and around the pedestrian walking on my left - the cord nearly garroted him!

Today, I saw two guys wearing hats - both Americans working in the offshore drilling industry in the North Sea. One, a Texan, was wearing some Tilley travel hat, the other - you guessed it - a baseball cap.

Hats, real or otherwise, are very rare here in the UK. Today, a woman on the street I met in a town about fifty miles away saw me and recognized me - I was, of course, wearing a Royal blue fedora both times.

Greg, currently in Carlisle, England.

Yohanes
09-05-2007, 07:22 PM
Sorry for bringing up this old thread. Being a newbie, I still don't understand much about this apparatus. Can anyone post detailed pictures of wind trolley, such as how it is attached, how it works, etc? Thanks

apipeguy
09-05-2007, 07:35 PM
yohanes! thanks for re-opening this thread...I want to know how they work. never seen one used. I saw a few "Artlights" with 'em.

deanglen
09-06-2007, 12:09 AM
Previous thread on the topic. One of several. Appears helpful.

http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?t=19258&highlight=wind+trolley

dean

Yohanes
09-06-2007, 01:04 AM
Thanks, but no pictures there... I have no idea what it looks like

PADDY
09-06-2007, 02:54 AM
Glad to help.

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/ROSSANDHARRY/Borsalino013.jpg

Edward
09-06-2007, 07:48 AM
They're a great idea.... there's nothing less dignified than having your hat blow off and having to run up the street after it. I'm planning to attach one to the wool hat I'm mostly wearing at the minute (I'll make one myself with some decent elastic and attach it to the band, tuck it inside). Does anyone know if Akubra fit these across their range, or only to the 'Fedora' model (as labelled on Hatsdircet.com).


FWIW, there's also another thread I starte recently on this under the "lapel cord" terminology, where some helpful advice was offered to me.

adamgottschalk
09-06-2007, 08:37 AM
A wind trolley is stitched onto a hat just under the crown ribbon; then it's wrapped around the crown and secured. To use one: unwrap the trolley so it hangs down the side of your hat, over the brim edge, with the side that has a button on it hanging loose. Then button that button on the end of the trolley into a button hole on your shirt or jacket.

Yohanes
09-07-2007, 02:34 AM
Hmmm, so it's more or less like a chin strap in cowboy hat... smart

thefedorastore
09-07-2007, 01:55 PM
Actually, it was Art who had said he would send someone a cord, but I don't that he stocks them for sale.


Contact either Besdor or Duane at the Fedorastore..I'm fairly certainn Duane posted once about being able to add a wind trolley...

Duane If I'm incorrect I apologize......

it's worth a try

Bassman
02-26-2008, 04:34 PM
Glad to help.

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/ROSSANDHARRY/Borsalino013.jpg

A wind trolley is stitched onto a hat just under the crown ribbon; then it's wrapped around the crown and secured. To use one: unwrap the trolley so it hangs down the side of your hat, over the brim edge, with the side that has a button on it hanging loose. Then button that button on the end of the trolley into a button hole on your shirt or jacket.
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Spellflower
02-29-2008, 02:18 PM
Hmmm, so it's more or less like a chin strap in cowboy hat... smart

Well, yes and no. A chin strap will keep your hat on your head, and also keep it from being lost, but a wind trolley just keeps the hat from being lost. It's kind of like the rope rock climbers use to catch them in case they fall.

If you depend on a wind trolley, make sure that the button is really secured to your clothing, not just pressed through a button hole. Give it a good strong tug to test it before trusting it. I've almost lost my hat when I thought I had it in place and suddenly encountered a gust strong enough to rip it right through the button hole.