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~landgirl~
11-29-2006, 05:12 AM
I noticed in the chemist this morning that they are still making Vitapointe.
Does anyone use this and does it actually work? I looked it up online and it says it is a conditioner but you don't need to wash out (is that right?) - and you are suppose to use it on dry hair! I am sure I read somewhere that Marilyn Monroe was a fan!
fleur
11-29-2006, 05:49 AM
My mum uses it from time to time and loves it.
You are right in thinking that you leave it in.
I do use VO5 hotoil from time to time but have to be wary of over conditioning my hair as it is so fine and goes limp :(
RetroMom
12-01-2006, 12:35 PM
I used to use something very similar by VO5. It was called conditioning hairdressing and sold in a tube (not the same as the hot oil treatments, they are great too!). You squeeze it out like toothpaste, it was quite oily and only a small amount was to be used, but it worked great! If you have flyaway hair rubbing a little bit in your hands and then running through your hair will tame them, to break down a tight set rub a little in and recomb/brush, apply on ends of dry hair.
Give it a try, you'll like it:)
fleur
12-01-2006, 12:50 PM
Thats for that RM!
Will now be on the search for another (!) hair product!
:D
Have to admit that I still have some left over from before I went vegan, so I do still use it. You really do only need a tiny amount and it works brilliantly.
My favourite product though, is Pjur. It's perfect for finishing my hair when I straighten it. And it's vegan too, so no guilt! :D
Daisy Buchanan
12-01-2006, 02:04 PM
I've heard of vitapointe before, but have never used it.
I do, however, use a leave in conditioner called Potion 9 by Sebastian. It really adds shine and helps smooth out my hair when I wear it straight. I think you're supposed to use it while your hair is wet, but sometimes, especially after I use a flat steam iron, I'll rub some into my hair when it's dry. It's not sticky at all, adds a nice shine, and I think it's really helping my ends. They are less split and unruly. I always put it in my hair when wet before adding any setting lotion or other curling cream. I think this adds a layer of protection and also might give my curls a bit more control. Whether I wear my hair curly or straight, the Potion 9 really seems to give a little protection to my ends and makes my hair smoother, shinier and softer.
Another product that I really like is Ego Boost by Bed Head Tigi. If I am going to wear my hair straight, especially if I'm gonna use the steam flat iron, I put this in my hair. It adds shine and makes my hair much more manageable. It especially controls any frizz, especially in the humid months when I rely on the flat iron to keep my unruly, half curly head of hair straight. I put it in before I dry my hair. Then I put a layer on before I iron it. Then I use a little here or there for touch ups, especially on the hairs on the top of my head. You see, I'm on a medicine that makes my hair fall out more than it should. But, i have a lot of new hair growth. So, I have all of this short little hairs that stick straight up on the top of my head. To top it all of, my hairdresser has informed me that all the new hair growth I have is curly. I'd be glad to have curls in my head, but now half my hair is curly and half is straight! argh, it's really hard to control the shorter hairs, so I usually matte them down with ego boost, and this holds them in place all day.
Daisy - a steam flat iron? :eek: Please tell me this is not the same as the the thing you'd iron your clothes with :eusa_doh:
~landgirl~
12-01-2006, 02:30 PM
My hair dresser gave me a sample sachet of potion 9 by sebastian and you are right Daisy, it is lovely! Very expensive though. I am having my hair coloured tomorrow and am tempted to buy myself a full size tube (seeing as you rate it so high!)
Daisy Buchanan
12-01-2006, 02:36 PM
Daisy - a steam flat iron? :eek: Please tell me this is not the same as the the thing you'd iron your clothes with :eusa_doh:
Golly No!!! It's a flat iron for the hair that has an area in it to put a small amount of water. When it heats up it releases steam as you iron your hair. It is quite amazing. Makes my hair so straight and soft, and really shiny. It also has removable plates, one flat, and one waved. I've used the wave one to create a kind of fingerwave, since I really haven't yet figured out how to do one on my own. It's a really great device. I can even use it on my hair when it's damp, and it not only smoothes and straightens, but also dries it.
My hair dresser gave me a sample sachet of potion 9 by sebastian and you are right Daisy, it is lovely! Very expensive though. I am having my hair coloured tomorrow and am tempted to buy myself a full size tube (seeing as you rate it so high!)
I'd get a tube. It's well worth it. And, you really don't need to use a lot of it in one application, so the big tube will last you a really long time. I just bought a new tube after finally finishing the one I bought nine months ago.
jazzzbaby
01-23-2007, 11:40 PM
Hi Girls ~
I was curious as to your methods of conditioning your hair.
All of the hair setting & sprays & gels can sure put the works on the hair...
and lately my hair is losing some of that luster that I like. I was looking for a good conditioner or maybe even an old school homemade method.
Any suggestions?
thx xoxo
CanadaDoll
01-23-2007, 11:49 PM
Olive oil for 45 minutes on damp hair, shampoo out with a nice light one, some may need to shampoo twice so the light/gentle is important, and your hair will be smooth and shiny.
I also use coconut oil in the same fashion, but I'll leave it on for the day, so you may want to save it for a day off.
Generally speaking I use Dove Therapy as my day to day basics, and I use the Deep conditioner once a week.
It is also great to give yourself a scalp massage as it increases circulation, thus stimulating your hair's oils, which help to protect and soften the hair. An added bonus is if you can get your significant other to do this.;) :D
Hope it helps!
Emmababy
01-24-2007, 03:04 AM
I use Lush's American Cream. It smells amazing and it really thick and luxurious
Kim_B
01-24-2007, 05:53 AM
Not vintage by any means but I am IN LOVE with Aussie's line of conditioners, particularly the 3-Minute Miracle DEEEEEP and the Moist Conditioner. I color my hair and it leaves it very dry as you can imagine. Both of these products work like a dream! I also use John Frieda's Radiant Red shampoo and conditioner, but I alternate every other day with the Aussie stuff.
crwritt
01-24-2007, 05:57 AM
Hi Girls ~
I was curious as to your methods of conditioning your hair.
All of the hair setting & sprays & gels can sure put the works on the hair...
and lately my hair is losing some of that luster that I like. I was looking for a good conditioner or maybe even an old school homemade method.
Any suggestions?
thx xoxo
I always keep a big jar of Queen Helene's Cholesterol. I generously coat my hair and scalp with it an hour before rinsing it out. It is very inexpensive, and works great for those times my scalp is flaking from a color job. They've been around since 1930, so i guess you could call them old school.
http://www.queenhelene.com/
pigeon toe
01-24-2007, 09:43 AM
I always keep a big jar of Queen Helene's Cholesterol. I generously coat my hair and scalp with it an hour before rinsing it out. It is very inexpensive, and works great for those times my scalp is flaking from a color job. They've been around since 1930, so i guess you could call them old school.
http://www.queenhelene.com/
I LOVE Cholesterol! I don't leave it in for an hour, but I use it at least 1-2x a week and it does a great job. It's super rich & thick and doesn't leave my hair greasy at all.
BettyValentine
01-24-2007, 10:06 AM
I like the L'oreal ones in the pink bottles. I get it from a discount store, I don't know how much it normally runs, and they make stuff for preserving color. As of Friday I'm all color-treated and stuff, so I guess splurging on UV-protect hair stuff will save $$ in the long run.
Also, I totally can't deal with the cuteness of Canada Doll's avatar.
mysterygal
01-24-2007, 10:45 AM
My absolute favorite is Sebastian's product line; they work great and the smell is awesome.
I also like L'oreal, I get mine at Sally Beauty Supply, they have a wide variety of conditioners but I usually get the one in the yellowish bottle (for color treated hair)
For deep conditioning treatment, I too use cholesterol, and I also love 'bone marrow'...they come in packets for one time use and the results are amazing!
A product that I don't recommend is ion...the shampoo is ok, but I bought the conditioner in the purple bottle, the smell is really good, but it leaves my hair feeling like it has a thick residue on it...this I hate!
jitterbugdoll
01-24-2007, 11:07 AM
Burt's Bees makes an avocado pre-treatment that works well when my hair is extra dry. You can use it as a finishing cream as well if you apply it very sparingly.
Also, I have found that my hair behaves much better and is less dry when I use a sulfate-free shampoo.
The cholesterol treatment works great as well, especially when used with a hooded hair dryer.
Mahinatakataka
01-24-2007, 11:22 AM
Burt's Bees are good products.
What color hair do you have, Jazzzbaby? Do you want repair split ends, add or maintain colouring or just give it a healthier look and feel and more body?
I use the Artec line by L'Oreal for deep brown, almost black hair. Right now I'm using Artec's "clarifying and chelating" shampoo. People actually stop and compliment me on how much body my hair has and how healty it looks. I actually have baby fine hair, so that's quite a compliment :)
SarahLouise
01-24-2007, 11:51 AM
Not vintage by any means but I am IN LOVE with Aussie's line of conditioners, particularly the 3-Minute Miracle DEEEEEP and the Moist Conditioner. I color my hair and it leaves it very dry as you can imagine. Both of these products work like a dream! I also use John Frieda's Radiant Red shampoo and conditioner, but I alternate every other day with the Aussie stuff.
I love Aussie 3 minute miracle conditioning treatment too and thoroughly recommend it! I usually end up using it quite regularly instead of just once a week. I've heard Kerastase products are good but they are a bit pricey so I haven't tried them yet.
jazzzbaby
01-24-2007, 12:23 PM
Burt's Bees are good products.
What color hair do you have, Jazzzbaby? Do you want repair split ends, add or maintain colouring or just give it a healthier look and feel and more body?
I use the Artec line by L'Oreal for deep brown, almost black hair. Right now I'm using Artec's "clarifying and chelating" shampoo. People actually stop and compliment me on how much body my hair has and how healty it looks. I actually have baby fine hair, so that's quite a compliment :)
I color my hair black. It's naturally darker brown and I am starting to see some gray...
I am looking to repair my hair and also, give it that shine & body.
I really appreciate all these recommendations. I most certainly have some homework assignments to work on here...lol! I will let you know which works best. xoxoxoxoxox
Miss Match
01-24-2007, 01:08 PM
I'm another fan of Aussie products. I have quite long hair and it tangles and gets ratty so easily. I use the Hair Insurance leave in conditioner and I can actually get a comb through it! Shocking!
mysterygal
01-24-2007, 01:11 PM
l'oreal also makes a leave-in conditioner that works pretty good, just be careful about how much you put into your hair, it can leave a bit of a greasy look if theres too much.
For the frizzies, I also like frizz-eaz.
BonnieJean
01-24-2007, 05:31 PM
I've colored my hair for years (those darn gray hairs!) and I use Garnier products. Garnier hair coloring seems to be the least damaging for my hair. I have very fine, thin hair and need to wash it every day. I use the Garnier shampoo and conditioner for colored hair and afterwards apply their leave-in conditioner. I follow that up with John Frieda's Frizz-ease Dream Curls spray (I have naturally wavy, curly hair).
Jenautica
01-24-2007, 07:32 PM
I'm well into a 2 year addiction to Redken's AllSoft products. I stated earlier that I had switched to Dove for a bit, but it made my head itch. The AllSoft conditioner and Heavy Cream Super Treatment are the best products I've ever used. I have baby fine, stick straight hair that was completely fried from bleaching, heat styling and spending my weekends in the hot Arizona desert of Lake Havasu. AllSoft literally saved me from having to cut all of my hair off and start over. I pick mine up at Super Walmart's salon when they are having a liter sale, for about $14 (a liter of the shampoo runs me $11 on sale). You can't beat that price, compared to other salon brands.
Rosie
01-24-2007, 07:38 PM
I use store bought conditioner as shampoo.
For conditioner, it varies, depending on the condition of my hair.
If my hair is regular - egg yolks and mayo
If my hair is dry - egg yolk, mayo rinse then followed by a half hour of organic wild honey (yes, honey works WONDERS for your hair)
If my hair has been bradied, twisted or just generally needs some reviving - avocado, egg yolk, olive oil, organic red palm oil and a bit of mayo for a half hour, followed by a half hour of organic wild honey
then of course after air drying, some she butter on the hair and scalp but the unrefined organic kind or it will be greasy and a big mess
ShrinkingViolet
01-25-2007, 02:23 AM
I use store bought conditioner as shampoo.
Rosie, I tried the conditioner-as-a-shampoo thing and I must say it worked wonders! I usually only shampoo once or twice a week and even that dries out my hair. I have very fine, dry and frizzy hair, and I ended up with pretty waves! So merci beaucoup!
Oh and I've read about the avocado and mayo etc. hair treatment, I'm gonna try that too. Just found out that the shea butter I've bought is refined though :eusa_doh: I want the real stuff
Mahinatakataka
01-25-2007, 06:29 AM
I color my hair black. It's naturally darker brown and I am starting to see some gray...
I am looking to repair my hair and also, give it that shine & body.
Sounds like we have similar hair. I"m starting to see a little gray, too. ;)
Well, get some sample bottles and see what works. I only by "cruelty free" but there are more and more products on the market that are doing this. Artec (and L'Oreal) is just one of them.
Also, give a conditioner time to really work. I let mine sit while I do other things then go back and rinse some time later.
Good luck, and let us know how it "all washes out." LOL
fortworthgal
01-25-2007, 07:13 AM
I have very thick, coarse, dry hair that is color-treated. Right now I'm using Tresemme color thrive shampoo and conditioner, and I'm very happy with it. It hasn't dried my hair out and it really makes your color last, and it is ridiculously inexpensive. Prior to this, I was using Ion's color care line for dry hair, and I really liked it. I wash my hair, and then apply my conditioner, comb it through with a wide-tooth blunt shower comb, and let it sit on my hair while I shave my legs and finish my shower, then I rinse. Seems to work pretty well.
I try to use a deep conditioning treatment at least once a week. I like Aura's Cherry Almond Bark deep conditioner. I also like L'Oreal Nature's Therapy treatments, and Biolage conditioning balm.
jitterbugdoll
01-25-2007, 07:19 AM
I've been using Alberto Vo5 Conditioning Hairdressing recently, and I like it for touch-ups when my hair is looking particularly dry or frizzy between washings (which is the case lately, as I am in need of a trim.) I've also been combing a dab through my damp hair before setting. You only need a tiny amount and it’s ridiculously cheap as well, and though the smell is not the greatest, luckily it disappears fairly quickly.
AllaboutEve
01-25-2007, 10:03 AM
I just bought some Aveda Clove Colour Conditioner today, it's for dark brown/brunettes but they do other colours too.
It's supposed to condition you hair and enhance the colour too! It's 95% Organic with no nasty chemicals in, instead it has plant dyes/stain in and lots of other good stuff. It's pretty pricey, but smells wonderful.
I haven't used it yet but will post you with my results!.....we shall see if it works!!!!!
I'm hoping it will warm up my hair tone a little as it has faded a little over the last few years ( and those wretched greys !!!! )
wibblebird
01-25-2007, 11:25 AM
I can't believe anyone hasn't mentioned it yet, but I've found that spending 5 minutes brushing with a boar bristle brush at night has done wonders for my hair.
I've been lucky - I've got thick (but not horse-thick) hair that's been really healthy, despite a dye addiction that took years to break. However, after my son was born (and while I was nursing) it was like he was sucking the moisture out of my hair as well. So, now I shampoo every other day, condition every day (varies between Quantum from Sally Beauty Supply, Pantene, or Paula's Choice (love that Paula Begoun!), and I brush at least 5 minutes every night. My hair is shiny and strong again.
BonnieJean
01-25-2007, 04:31 PM
I've been using Alberto Vo5 Conditioning Hairdressing recently, and I like it for touch-ups when my hair is looking particularly dry or frizzy between washings (which is the case lately, as I am in need of a trim.) I've also been combing a dab through my damp hair before setting. You only need a tiny amount and it’s ridiculously cheap as well, and though the smell is not the greatest, luckily it disappears fairly quickly.
I forgot to mention this great product. I echo Jitterbugdoll here. The Vo5 stuff is the greatest!
Nightshade
01-25-2007, 04:47 PM
I also use the Tresseme color thrive and I love it. It smells really good, it works great on my color treated hair, and I always get compliments saying that I have the softest hair they have ever felt!
princessofcandl
01-25-2007, 06:48 PM
well aside from the already mentioned.... Although I will say that I love Burts Bee too. I have very dry wavy hair. This helps keep my curlies cute.
I looooove Ojon. I don't know if yall have heard of this one. You can get it at Sephora, QVC (as in one of those home shopping networks), or at their website (www.ojonhaircare.com). The shampoo and conditioners are fab. The styling cream is fab. But what you really want is the restorative hair treatment. You can get a small jar of this for about $30 (don't worry, a little goes a long way) or the big jar for $55. This stuff is amazing! Well worth the buck if you ask me. At least check out the website.
Amelie
01-25-2007, 06:56 PM
I personnaly use Matrix's Biolage products, and I'm really happy with them. I regularly use Forteth?©rapie fortifying shampoo, and the ultra-hydrating balm. (as a conditionner)
I used to have ultra dry and fragile hair, and they are now very healty, so I am really pleased :)
Rosie
01-25-2007, 07:14 PM
Rosie, I tried the conditioner-as-a-shampoo thing and I must say it worked wonders! I usually only shampoo once or twice a week and even that dries out my hair. I have very fine, dry and frizzy hair, and I ended up with pretty waves! So merci beaucoup!
Oh and I've read about the avocado and mayo etc. hair treatment, I'm gonna try that too. Just found out that the shea butter I've bought is refined though :eusa_doh: I want the real stuff
Yay! You may want to use "regular" shampoo once a month or so or once every other month. Or, you can try Dr. Bronner's magic organic castile soap. I LOVE that stuff.
For great unrefined shea butter, try these guys:
http://www.alaffia.com/products/index.php
or these: http://www.agbangakarite.com/
it's the same company, just depends on whether you want to buy in bulk or not and it's all fair trade.
CanadaDoll
01-25-2007, 07:24 PM
That is a neat idea, conditioner as shampoo, I might give it a try when I have a holiday, I don't know how well my hair would respond, it's kind of oily.[huh]
Cheesecakecutie
01-30-2007, 04:58 AM
I put conditioner on my hair when it is dry. cover with a plastic bag and leave it there for a couple of hours. this is really good if you colour your hair...i do occasionally use olive oil and do the same thing but then i have to shampoo lots to get it out, which gives me knots from hell...does give incredible shine though. my friend who bleaches her maryilon locks has the most gorgeous soft hair no dryness at all and she does this condtioner trick every other night ( she is a hairdresser she should know) ;)
ohairas
01-31-2007, 10:36 PM
Putting conditioner on dry hair is a good tip.. your hair is like a sponge, and if a sponge is wet it won't soak up much else. I also second the brushing!
I like Aussie Hair Insurance leave in, Sebastion Potion 9 leave in, and Pravana shampoo and conditioner. It is sulfate free and leaves the hair SO shiney and really helps colored hair retain it's hue.
Redken's Vinyl Glam is a great spray shiner.
Biolage conditoning balm has always been a good one, however, I don't reccomend their shampoos. I see color fadage every time. Redken Outshine is a great product too,
http://cgi.ebay.com/REDKEN-outshine-01-3-4oz-NEW-polish-and-shine_W0QQitemZ250079359368QQihZ015QQcategoryZ1186 0QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
If you are coloring your hair darker than your natural you should always use a semi-permanant. If you have grey that the semi won't cover, use a permanant on the roots only, then use the semi on the ends only if they need to be refreshed.
If you have over-colored your hair, esp. with colors such as black, you can get a build up of color molecules and this will make the hair look dingy and dull. I highly reccomend Pravana semi and Redken Shades as far as professional lines.. wonderful shine!! And the Pravana seems to cover grey pretty well, better than Shades.
Sometimes you just need a build up removing shampoo.. perhaps once a month or more if you use a lot of product.
Aways rinse hair in the coolest water you can stand, seals the outer layer of the hair down to make it nice and slick.
Nikki
pretty faythe
02-23-2007, 01:09 PM
I sometimes just condition, like on days that I didn't work, so my hair didn't get a chance to get sweaty or dirty. Even though my hair is short, I can't brush my hair after a shower with out conditioner because of the thickness.
I tried the condtioner as shampoo regimine. After a few days of this my hair got oily..ick.
So I am still insearch of a good shampoo to use during the winter when the static season hits for me.
ShrinkingViolet
02-23-2007, 01:18 PM
About the conditioner as shampoo-thing ... I noticed it makes a big difference if I use a silicone-free conditioner or one with only very little silicone in it (I use JASON Jojoba conditioner) instead of a deep-conditioning one, because all the silicones will build up within just a weeks use and make the hair heavy and oily.
Oh and you can check the ingredient list, the silicones are the ingredients ending with -one. The higher on the list, the bigger the percentage.
jitterbugdoll
02-23-2007, 01:19 PM
About the conditioner as shampoo-thing ... I noticed it makes a big difference if I use a silicone-free conditioner or one with only very little silicone in it (I use JASON Jojoba conditioner) instead of a deep-conditioning one, because all the silicones will build up within just a weeks use and make the hair heavy and oily.
Oh and you can check the ingredient list, the silicones are the ingredients ending with -one. The higher on the list, the bigger the percentage.
This is very true; the same goes for styling products, too.
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