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Dinerman
03-25-2007, 03:15 PM
We were on the road up around the MD/ PA border today in search for some texas hots and a buffalo farm.
We hit an antique shop on the way. Lots of hats (2 derbies, 2 panamas, 3 boaters, 1 top hat), most were way overpriced.
Then I found this.
It's a 7X clear beaver stetson mode edge.
It has a 2-3/4 inch brim, and a 1-3/4" ribbon. It has a bit of stiffness to the felt, probably due to the denseness of it. It's very smooth.
I've never seen "mode edge" stamped this way.

It was hiding inside a stetson travel hatbox. The hatbox is covered in a fuzzy cloth material, and has coth binding on the edges. There is a handle and an elastic strap.
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mingoslim
03-25-2007, 03:30 PM
Is it your clean living . . . a special diet . . . your charm and good looks? How do you find the great hats you always seem to come up with?

I envy you . . . but in a good way! Keep it up!

Dinerman
03-25-2007, 03:34 PM
This one was sheer luck. It was inside the closed hatbox under a table, just barely sticking out from under the tablecloth.

Baron Kurtz
03-25-2007, 03:41 PM
monsieur dinerman, you have some of the most remarkable good fortune i've come across. Your area seems to be as teeming as the midwest . . .

I thought i was lucky with my playboy/whippet/stratoliner find. man, you show me up big time in the find stakes.

bk

btw toronto is teeming with great vintage too . . . at least it was 3 years ago.

jimmy the lid
03-25-2007, 03:48 PM
What an amazing hat -- just about like winning the lottery!!! D-man, you've definitely got some good hat mojo working for you. When you opened the lid of that box and realized what you had found, you must have just about fainted...:eusa_clap :eusa_clap :eusa_clap

Cheers,
JtL

Baron Kurtz
03-25-2007, 04:14 PM
dare one ask what it cost?

bk

M_Jones
03-25-2007, 04:56 PM
I'm with everyone else. You must have something. I spent all day looking around here for a hat and came up empty. I did find a "brown crest-Styled by Brown McDonald" fedora but it had moth damage and cost too much.

Anyway good snatch Dinerman. It looks like a winner. :eusa_clap

Hemingway Jones
03-25-2007, 05:01 PM
I think it's cool that it is from a hat shop from Atlantic City of the boardwalk. It brings back memories of my youth. ;)

That is one super clean and beautiful hat. Amazing find. Enjoy!

GentlemanFarmer
03-25-2007, 05:02 PM
I'm not that far away from you Dinerman(I'm outside Harrisburg). Where about was 1) that shop and 2) the buffalo farm. BTW, nice find.

Razzman
03-25-2007, 05:20 PM
WOW! What a fantastic hat. That hat is truly a treasure. Pure Beaver fedora. Congratulations on such a great find. Sign me up to go on fedora/hat safari with you:D

Lee Lynch
03-25-2007, 05:22 PM
Grats, Dinerman! That is really nice!

Cacklewack
03-25-2007, 05:26 PM
Dinerman is my hat-finding idol.

Matt

John in Covina
03-25-2007, 05:43 PM
Man, that is walking into one sweet lid.

Daisy Buchanan
03-25-2007, 05:47 PM
Wow Dinerman, that is one handsome lid! I know, I'm a girl, what the heck to I know about hats. Well, I know quality and style when I see it, and that hat's got both. Besides, I am Hemingway Jone's roommate (for a few more months :() so I've had a few lessons on identifying and critiquing hats.
Well, it's a very beautiful (sorry, threw in a girlie word) hat, and I'm sure it will look great on. Congrats:eusa_clap

tonyb
03-25-2007, 06:23 PM
dare one ask what it cost?

bk

Yeah, dare one? I, too, wanna know.

Dinerman
03-25-2007, 07:04 PM
Thanks for all the kind words.

For those who want to know: It was just under 30 bucks.

Nathan Flowers
03-25-2007, 07:24 PM
One of the finest I've seen. Huzzah!

besdor
03-25-2007, 07:39 PM
That hat looks to be from the late 1930's -early 1940's. I wouldn't be suprised if it sold for more than 30.00 back then! That is one FINE hat.



Steven
www.bencrafthats.com

cooncatbob
03-25-2007, 07:58 PM
Thanks for all the kind words.

For those who want to know: It was just under 30 bucks.

Your going to need a new handle Dman, like the hat finder of Mr Lucky. lol
Every time I find a nice one on e-bay the High Rollers swoop in and blow me away. :mad: .Bob

DOUGLAS
03-25-2007, 08:01 PM
Dman, YOU are the MAN!! Damn good find:eusa_clap :eusa_clap
That is a most beautiful color. I believe most of my mode edges are stamped in the same way.

Duck
03-26-2007, 04:08 AM
Dinerman, you have the hat finding gift!!! That is a very nice fine. Well done!!:eusa_clap

Fletch
03-26-2007, 05:31 AM
But what's CLEAR beaver? Are the critters actually transparent?

(Fun Fact: Polar bears really do have clear fur. It just looks white. Seriously!)

jimmy the lid
03-26-2007, 05:41 AM
I believe that "clear" beaver means "not dyed."

Cheers,
JtL

SHARPETOYS
03-26-2007, 08:47 AM
But what's CLEAR beaver? Are the critters actually transparent?

(Fun Fact: Polar bears really do have clear fur. It just looks white. Seriously!)

I was told by several hatters a Stetson Clear Beaver means the hat is 100% beaver felt...

RedPop4
03-26-2007, 09:55 AM
Unreal, absolutely incredible.

jimmy the lid
03-26-2007, 10:41 AM
A snippet from Snyder's "Stetson Hats" book:

"In the mid-1940's, a 10X Stetson cost $100 and was the finest hat available. Hats marked by Stetson with the phrase, "Clear Beaver" were also of the highest quality, manufactured from pure, undyed beaver fur."

Cheers,
JtL

Dinerman
03-26-2007, 12:25 PM
I sometimes wonder why sellers always seem to tuck these hats either under tables or way up on top of display cases, while they leave the empty boxes in plain sight.

In the same mall, (different booth) was a Knapp Felt box, one of the super thick fiberboard kind, with a leather belt and all. I got pretty excited about that one, I pick it up, it feels full. I open it, it's empty, of course. I bet it would have been one heck of a hat if it had been in there. The box alone was 40 bucks, so it stayed where it was.

One of the derbies was a beautiful mallory, but it was a tiny size, and 70something bucks.

The other derby was a custom job by a Baltimore hatter. It was a 6-7/8.

The top hat was a collapsable one, made by the same hatter by the same person, It was pretty expensive as well.

Something that struck me was a '30's 3/4 length leather coat with a huge mouton collar. It was 1500 bucks and near completely distroyed, but still, it's not something I expect to see.

DBFedora
03-29-2007, 10:08 AM
What a find! Absolutely beautiful! Love the color (and I am partial to darker ones myself). Enjoy! :fedora:

PADDY
03-30-2007, 02:15 AM
I'm assuming that's the hat in the avatar? If so...looking 'very nice!!':eusa_clap Well done my friend. If you'd been a 7 1/8 (as is my noggin) I might have just done a midnight raid on your place!!!;)

Well I've been watching a Stetson in gray in my size at old Edward Bees and it's gone over the $65 mark, so I'm leaving it alone and having read this 'find' of yours at under the $30 mark, well...it just confirms my not bidding.

I also LOVE the colour of that hat of yours too Dinerman,,,,the word...'superlative' seems to spring to mind when I look at it.

Many congratulations sir..!:eusa_clap

feltfan
03-30-2007, 08:24 AM
CLEAR BEAVER!!

MODE EDGE!!

THAT'S WORTH SHOUTING ABOUT.

Let's see it on your bean.

Tango Yankee
03-31-2007, 07:37 AM
Both your new hat and your incredible luck!!! :eusa_clap

All I can do is shake my head in awe and try to keep the level of envy to a minimum!

Congratulations!
Tom

patrick1987
03-31-2007, 07:45 AM
I sometimes wonder why sellers always seem to tuck these hats either under tables or way up on top of display cases, while they leave the empty boxes in plain sight.



A friend who ran an antique shop says that it is often the browsing customer who does this rather than the seller. I always look for the piles of cool stuff stashed in the corner by the person who didn't bring enough money.

Dinerman
03-31-2007, 07:50 AM
The nice thing about this antique mall is that they have employees walking the isles to carry your items to the front counter where they'll hold it while you walk around.
It's really a smart idea on their part. The shoppers have their hands free to buy more stuff.

Has anybody ever seen this box? I haven't seen it before. I've seen others with kind of strap, but never in the fuzzy finish or these graphics.

Johnnysan
03-31-2007, 07:44 PM
WOW!

beatola
04-03-2007, 12:12 PM
That doesn't look like natural undyed beaver. Is that picture close to the actual color of the hat? To my eyes it looks a little bit to tannish red. Natural beaver at least nowadays is more of a tannish gray it also has a better feel to me than the dyed stuff.

buler
05-28-2014, 05:16 AM
Bump for clear beaver.

B