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J.T.Marcus
09-09-2007, 03:43 PM
I was at the HATCO outlet store in Garland (TX), Saturday. The floor man and I were making conversation, when he mentioned tha Churchill is (or was) one of their brands. Anybody have a Churchill or know anything about their history? Thanks.

CasaBlancaChuck
09-09-2007, 07:37 PM
I bought a very nice vintage Churchill Ltd. fedora at a flea market last year. It is a very high quality stingy brim "noir" detective style, medium brown with a wide black ribbon and bow. It has a sown in satin liner, and a real leather sweatband. The sweatband is embossed with te-dum... Neiman-Marcus Men's Store. There no mention of any manufacturer other than Churchiill Ltd. on both the liner and sweatband. It also features the Cavanagh brim edge (rolled over). One of my favorites.
Best wishes,
Chuck

AlanC
09-09-2007, 07:48 PM
I have a Churchill Open Road style hat that was also originally from Neiman Marcus. It was unworn. It's pretty stiff, though. Here are a couple of pictures from the ebay auction:

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/8641/churchillor1yp4.jpg

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/244/churchillor3nn5.jpg

thunderw21
09-09-2007, 07:50 PM
I have a vintge one and I like it. It's my everyday hat. It's a nice hat with soft felt.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b367/thunderw21/DSCF0796-1.jpg

indycop
09-09-2007, 08:19 PM
I have a vintge one and I like it. It's my everyday hat. It's a nice hat with soft felt.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b367/thunderw21/DSCF0796-1.jpg
Is that a diamond bash? I really like it!

thunderw21
09-09-2007, 08:46 PM
Is that a diamond bash? I really like it!

You are correct sir! ;)

fatwoul
09-09-2007, 09:12 PM
You are correct sir! ;)

Is there such a thing as a "kite" bash? Cos the diamond bash on your hat there looks more kite-shaped in that picture; I mean, the diamond looks to have a bigger point at the front than the back.

Anyway, looks good, and a great everyday hat. Looks like a well-travelled but well-looked-after friend.

thunderw21
09-09-2007, 09:18 PM
Is there such a thing as a "kite" bash? Cos the diamond bash on your hat there looks more kite-shaped in that picture; I mean, the diamond looks to have a bigger point at the front than the back.

Anyway, looks good, and a great everyday hat. Looks like a well-travelled but well-looked-after friend.

I'd consider it a variation on the diamond bash. Never heard of a 'kite' bash before but it sounds good.

feltfan
09-09-2007, 10:08 PM
I have a Churchill Open Road style hat that was also originally from Neiman Marcus. It was unworn. It's pretty stiff, though. Here are a couple of pictures from the ebay auction:

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/8641/churchillor1yp4.jpg



I have one like this, too. It's a Churchill 35.
The felt is very fine and somewhat stiff, very similar to other
60s hats I have, including my Cavanagh 100 "Denver" and
Resistol 100 "Kings 50" ($50). A very fine fiber felt. Not as tough
as the Cav 100 and a bit easier to stretch. Not my favorite style
of felt, but undeniably nice and I do like my Churchill.

Mind you, anything made today under that name will probably not
be in the same league.

deanglen
09-10-2007, 12:07 AM
[QUOTE=AlanC]I have a Churchill Open Road style hat that was also originally from Neiman Marcus. It was unworn. It's pretty stiff, though. Here are a couple of pictures from the ebay auction:

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/8641/churchillor1yp4.jpg

[QUOTE]

Did you re-bash it?

dean

nulty
09-10-2007, 06:06 AM
I had a Churchill probably very similar to the pic thunderw21 ahs posted above..

I ultimately sold it . It was fine hat with soft thick felt but in the end it was too thick.

I wear a hat most everywhere most all of the time and this one you just couldn't wear it in a store or places as such. It was too warm.


I'm learning that Hatco still owns brands names as such as Knox, Dobbs and Churchill and I believe , even Cavanagh.

Aside from Marketing hats under these names what difference is there in hat style and quality from name to name ?

Back in the day under Hatco you could see the difference between a Dobbs and a Stetson....


Does anyone have any thoughts ?

J.T.Marcus
09-10-2007, 06:43 AM
Nulty, You're right on those HATCO brands. I'm becoming a regular at the outlet store. The different brands,and Stetson and Resistol cowboy hats, are all manufactured in Garland, Texas, now. (There is a Hatco plant still operating in Longview, Texas. The St. Louis, Mo. plant closed a few years ago, and that outlet store closed just this year.)

After seeing and touching the different brand lines (many times), I can tell you there is a brand difference. It's hard to explain, but it's there.

One example is the Stetson Dexter/Knox Dr. Knox. I had a chance to compare them, side by side, on Saturday. They are supposed to be the same hat. The big difference, however, is the sweatband. The Stetson has the high gloss black leather we've come to expect. The Knox, on the other hand, has a fine textured, almost suede leather sweatband. It's a delight to the eyes and the fingertips. So, it may be like the difference between a Ford and a Mercury, but the difference is there.

jimmy the lid
09-10-2007, 08:04 AM
I remember in the early 60's that my Dad used to wear Churchill hats. Does anyone know when Churchill was initially bought out, and by whom?


Cheers,
JtL

indycop
09-10-2007, 11:10 AM
Is there such a thing as a "kite" bash? Cos the diamond bash on your hat there looks more kite-shaped in that picture; I mean, the diamond looks to have a bigger point at the front than the back.

Anyway, looks good, and a great everyday hat. Looks like a well-travelled but well-looked-after friend.
Its gotta have a tail on it to be a kite bash!! Haha!

indycop
09-10-2007, 11:16 AM
So is a churchill hat not a copy of what winston churchill wore? Kinda like a churchill cigar being so named because of his fondness for big cigars.

AlanC
09-10-2007, 11:28 AM
Did you re-bash it?

Not yet. It may require extreme measures.

Will Morgan
09-10-2007, 12:41 PM
As an aside, in the mid sixties my father David Morgan would occasionally take Akubras that had been damaged in the overseas shipping to 'Curly' Churchill who was a renovator and custom hat maker in Seattle up until maybe the late sixties when he sold his blocks and hat making equipment.

David says Curly never provided hats to big companies definitely a different Churchill but still, a Churchill who had been in the hat business so I thought it worth mentioning!

nulty
09-10-2007, 02:24 PM
Nulty, You're right on those HATCO brands. I'm becoming a regular at the outlet store. The different brands,and Stetson and Resistol cowboy hats, are all manufactured in Garland, Texas, now. (There is a Hatco plant still operating in Longview, Texas. The St. Louis, Mo. plant closed a few years ago, and that outlet store closed just this year.)

After seeing and touching the different brand lines (many times), I can tell you there is a brand difference. It's hard to explain, but it's there.

One example is the Stetson Dexter/Knox Dr. Knox. I had a chance to compare them, side by side, on Saturday. They are supposed to be the same hat. The big difference, however, is the sweatband. The Stetson has the high gloss black leather we've come to expect. The Knox, on the other hand, has a fine textured, almost suede leather sweatband. It's a delight to the eyes and the fingertips. So, it may be like the difference between a Ford and a Mercury, but the difference is there.

Thanks J.T for that example to get some perspective. I'll bet it's an adventure for you each time you enter that store.....I've heard you can pick up a deal there now and again....:D

mingoslim
09-11-2007, 09:28 AM
I remember in the early 60's that my Dad used to wear Churchill hats. Does anyone know when Churchill was initially bought out, and by whom?
Cheers,
JtL

Churchill was a line of fine quality hats int he late 40s and 50s. I do not know when the company was founded, but the Churchill line was bought out by Resistol in the 1950s, though Resistol continued to produce hats under that name for quite some time.

Colby Jack
09-11-2007, 07:38 PM
Thats interesting Will...I bet your dad has lots of inside stories about the hat business!;)
Colby Jack

Will Morgan
09-14-2007, 10:28 AM
Thats interesting Will...I bet your dad has lots of inside stories about the hat business!;)
Colby Jack

Indeed he does! One thing on the burner is to create a blog with which to get those hat stories out, and / or a book. For example we got our start as an Akubra distributor selling the Slouch or military hat to Eddie Bauer. And when I say Eddie Bauer, I mean David went downtown to sell them to Eddie personally, who featured them in a very successful national ad campaign.

Anyways more of that elsewhere, over time, I feel very fortunate to be able to chime in on these threads with the help of that forty five years of experience!

Meanwhile, I believe I might have earned one of these...
:offtopic:
:)

HATCO
09-14-2007, 11:17 AM
Actually Churchill was created by Byer-Rolnick. It wasn't bought.

CactusJax
11-19-2007, 02:39 PM
Years ago this factory had an outlet. I think it was Resistol. some of us would buy the imperfect blanks and made some great Jed Clampett fishing hats with them. When I moved back to Longview in '83 the outlet was no more.

CactusJax
11-19-2007, 02:41 PM
Where is the Stetson Outlet in Garland Located? I need to check it out.

J.T.Marcus
11-19-2007, 04:42 PM
Where is the Stetson Outlet in Garland Located? I need to check it out.

Hatco Hats
721 Marion Dr, Garland, TX 75042
(972) 494-0337

ideaguy
11-19-2007, 09:41 PM
I bought a Churchill on the 'bay a couple of months ago- very much like
Alan C's; mine is also from Neiman-Marcus, but is a Silverbelly felt; OR
styling, but a little different- 2 5/8 brim, 4 1/2 crown, but looks larger;
nice felt, a bit stiffer than a vintage OR, but very smooth. Overall-very nice
quality hat, wear mine a lot. Small world.

CactusJax
11-19-2007, 10:22 PM
I bought several nice Churchill Straws at NM in the 70's. When Dallas was the hot TV show and I lived there I also bought a Churchill western hat with a fat pheasant feather band that looked alot like one of JRs. They used to have Churchill seconds at the outlet in Longview.

Uncle Vern
12-27-2007, 04:09 PM
Funny you guys should be discussing Churchill hats from Needless Markup---I just picked one up today at the Goodwill in south Austin, for $5.00. This is a western, with a leather band, a soft, camel-colored velour finish which is very nice, a 3.25-inch brim and a lot of crown, very soft and of seemingly high quality. It's got a few worm holes under the brim, but most of them should sand out easily. The original paper label in it states the price at $29.00. It was too tight when I tried it on, a 7 1/8 when I wear a 7 3/8. It felt bigger, though, so I Lexoled the sweat and fired up the tea kettle, and it stretched easily to my size. I read on Wikipedia that men's westerns at NM where going for $265.00 in 1965. I wonder if some of these NM hats are pure beaver?

pplepic
07-29-2009, 11:58 AM
I have a black Churchill hat box, but I got it at a flea market with a dandy Biltmore hat inside. The box is good condition however, and has a leatherette belt. Maybe someday I'll run into a Churchill hat to put in it.:)

billysmom
07-29-2009, 07:29 PM
My Churchill "Savanah" in shantung straw is the hat that got me interested in dressy head coverings. My husband bought it for me over 20 years ago at John L. Ashe, at the time a very nice Fort Worth men's retailer. I still wear it regularly.

Mario
07-30-2009, 02:49 AM
Here's my Churchill. Bought on the 'Bay about six weeks ago. Never touched it yet. It's still with my family in Maryville, and my mother will bring it over to Germany at the end of September. Me, I'm trying to be patient...until I can finally get rid of that feather!


http://www.slashcafe.com/images_new/churchill.jpg

It also appears to have a Cavanagh Edge as well.


http://www.slashcafe.com/images_new/churchill_cav_edge.jpg

Mario
07-30-2009, 02:52 AM
Nice one. I really like it! :eusa_clap


I have a vintge one and I like it. It's my everyday hat. It's a nice hat with soft felt.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b367/thunderw21/DSCF0796-1.jpg

buler
11-02-2009, 05:49 PM
Here is a Churchill I found NOS in the box still covered with plastic. Model is a Grosvenor, color is London Gray. The hat looks black until you set it next to a black hat. Then it looks like a super dark brown/grey. Has a cav edge and a very stingy brim. Original price was $16.95.

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http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s73/mrsony/Churchill/churchill_14.jpg

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s73/mrsony/Churchill/churchill_15.jpg

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s73/mrsony/Churchill/churchill_16.jpg

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s73/mrsony/Churchill/churchill_1.jpg

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s73/mrsony/Churchill/churchill_2.jpg



http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s73/mrsony/Churchill/churchill_3.jpg



http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s73/mrsony/Churchill/churchill_4.jpg



http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s73/mrsony/Churchill/churchill_6.jpg



http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s73/mrsony/Churchill/churchill_7.jpg



http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s73/mrsony/Churchill/churchill_8.jpg

buler
11-02-2009, 05:49 PM
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s73/mrsony/Churchill/churchill_9.jpg

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s73/mrsony/Churchill/churchill_10.jpg

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s73/mrsony/Churchill/churchill_11.jpg

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s73/mrsony/Churchill/churchill_12.jpg

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s73/mrsony/Churchill/churchill_13.jpg

AlterEgo
12-19-2009, 11:43 PM
Well, well, well, the things you learn by sharing info here.

The hat that I called my favorite for a decade and wore all through college and most of my twenties was a Churchill [I]from Neiman Marcus[I] and marked as such.

I bought it at its store in Atlanta in October of 1977, the first time I'd ever been to a NM store. I remember the date well, because my dear grandmother was sick and couldn't get out to buy me a birthday present, so she sent money to me in college instead with a note to buy something really nice and show it to her when I was home for Thanksgiving.

Needless Markup is spot on--that rust-colored suede stingy brim trilby with an Austrian alpine profile was a heart-stopping $55.00, and that was over thirty years ago! Still have the hat, though the moths snacked on the crown a few years ago, so I don't wear it anymore, but the things I did in that hat are too precious to ever let it go. Man, does that hat have some stories to tell!

It appears that upscale retailer Neiman Marcus had a lengthy and ongoing relationship with Churchill for special hats. Makes sense, as the HATCO factory is in Garland, a suburb of Dallas, where NM's headquarters are.

You say HATCO owns the name Churchill, yet I have not seen a hat sold under that name in many, many years. It was a prestige brand, and I wonder if HATCO is saving it for an upper tier of qualty hats some day. Not likely, but one can hope.

christphil
12-20-2009, 10:01 AM
Recently got a Churchill off ebay. Brown with the softest touch you could imagine. This is when I realized how nice vintage hats are.

What I appreciate most about my Churchill is that it has a matching felt ribbon. Seems you can't really get that on a modern production hat. The few that I have seen with a felt ribbon look like pimp hats in weird colors.

AXL DEMOCRACY
04-18-2010, 12:58 PM
Glad I found this thread!

My first fedora I owned is a Churchill! I am an actor and it was part of my wardrobe for a play I was in, and was allowed to keep it after the production was over. It is beautiful on the outiside, yet the inside is very beat up, almost to a point where I need to get it fixed up I think.
It is a dark gray with a beautiful ribbon (that I actually had to have re-sewn in the middle of the play's production) and I am very attached to it for several reasons.

Ephraim Tutt
04-18-2010, 03:24 PM
G'day Axl. NY is the perfect town to be an actor I'm thinkin'
And there's no better hat than a Churchill. Well worth getting it restored if it needs it.

HatRak
05-01-2010, 06:09 AM
Had a Churchhill years ago. My daughter surprised me the other day by producing the only pic I can find of the hat. It was one of the best I've ever owned including a slew of Stetsons and Borso's. It was half-eaten by a new puppy after having fallen from the hat rack.

http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af169/Preacherwill/Churchhill.jpg

AXL DEMOCRACY
05-01-2010, 08:19 AM
Churchills are so classy!

I really need to get mine fixed up. The inside is pretty beaten up and it desperately needs a new ribbon. But I almost like it that way cause of emotional attachment I have to it!

Can anyone recommend a good place to take my Churchill to in New York City to be fixed up? Worth and Worth perhaps?

alanfgag
12-01-2010, 05:31 PM
Did a quick research on Churchill from N-M and came up with this great thread! HatRak, the Churchill cowboy hat that I just picked up on ebay looks an awful lot like yours. Wasn't sure how I'll look with a feather band, but if it works half as good on my head as it did on yours, I'll be a happy camper.

auction pics:

http://www.avertedimagination.com/hats/churchill2.jpg

http://www.avertedimagination.com/hats/churchill1.jpg

Benzadmiral
02-03-2011, 11:16 AM
I just got my sage/olive green Churchill back from a brim trim at Optimo. I'll try to take a pic or two shortly. The Optimo folks did a good job, but got a little overzealous and bashed it into a smooth teardrop which feels a little low for my (probably pointed!) head. Now it looks much like the new Stratoliner I've read about here. My plan: stretch it a bit more to my 7 size and keep it on the hat jack at night, and raise the central dome to clear my brain pan.

Anyway, it's a consignment store special, $12.00, with a dark brown sweatband inscribed "Porter's - New Orleans," a store that went out of business in the mid-'70s, I'm told. The dark satiny-looking liner is labeled "Churchill Ltd." It has a nice soft felt. I'm beginning to think thin ribbon hats are My Style (tm), as this makes my third.

HatsEnough
07-05-2011, 12:49 PM
Churchill hats will never, never never give up...

OK, I just got my Churchill 25 in silverbelly (or it might be Dove Gray, I'm not sure)...

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg706/scaled.php?server=706&filename=churchillor02.jpg&res=medium
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg94/scaled.php?server=94&filename=churchillor06.jpg&res=medium

I am pleased with it. The felt is very nice to the feel. It is brand new, never been worn. In fact, it was still open crown when I got it.

It took a crease nicely, too.

I have to say, even though it is relatively new (1990s earliest here) I think it is pretty nice. I paid $45 so, I don't feel that was too bad on price.

hatophile
07-05-2011, 01:03 PM
That's a very nice-looking hat, HE. I think you'll like it. If you don't I'm sure I could find it a good home!

SteveAS
07-05-2011, 01:31 PM
Churchill hats will never, never never give up...

OK, I just got my Churchill 25 in silverbelly (or it might be Dove Gray, I'm not sure)...

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg706/scaled.php?server=706&filename=churchillor02.jpg&res=medium
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg94/scaled.php?server=94&filename=churchillor06.jpg&res=medium

I am pleased with it. The felt is very nice to the feel. It is brand new, never been worn. In fact, it was still open crown when I got it.

It took a crease nicely, too.

I have to say, even though it is relatively new (1990s earliest here) I think it is pretty nice. I paid $45 so, I don't feel that was too bad on price.

I'd think 60s or 70s at the latest. I can't imagine Neiman Marcus was selling nice, fur felt hats for $25 in the 1990s.

Incidentally, I have a Churchill 25 Open Road clone and a Beaver 50 western. They're both very nice hats . . . I like the felt in the Churchill 50 better than the felt in my Stetson 7XCB (it feels silkier and is more finely pounced).

HatsEnough
07-05-2011, 01:45 PM
Well, I didn't say they were selling it for $25. Its model name is "25" but I don't know that this guarantees that it was going for $25 when brand new.
Still, I won't say for sure that you are wrong that it might be from the 70s. I am not very knowledgeable about Churchill hats.
It just seems to me that the construction says its not quite as old as 70s. But, I am certainly open to better info.

Dinerman
07-05-2011, 02:20 PM
Well, I didn't say they were selling it for $25. Its model name is "25" but I don't know that this guarantees that it was going for $25 when brand new.
Still, I won't say for sure that you are wrong that it might be from the 70s. I am not very knowledgeable about Churchill hats.
It just seems to me that the construction says its not quite as old as 70s. But, I am certainly open to better info.

Those number model names- Stetson 25, Dobbs 40, Knox 15, etc., represent the original sales price, so with a high degree of certainty, your hat originally sold for $25. The construction seems to point to a date in the late '60s or '70s, in terms of sweatband, size tag, stamping, etc.

HatsEnough
07-05-2011, 03:08 PM
Thanks, D-man. I do like the thing, anyway.

alanfgag
08-21-2011, 09:54 PM
The Churchill Beaver - Vicuna 100 / Neiman Marcus exclusive... more pictures and description here (http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?58230-Churchill-Beaver-100-Vicuna).

http://www.avertedimagination.com/hats/churchill100/vicuna14.jpg

http://www.avertedimagination.com/hats/churchill100/vicuna7.jpg

http://www.avertedimagination.com/hats/churchill100/vicuna2.jpg

http://www.avertedimagination.com/hats/churchill100/vicuna6.jpg

http://www.avertedimagination.com/hats/churchill100/vicuna10.jpg

TCMfan25
08-21-2011, 10:29 PM
I normally dread any kind of western, but Alan, that hat is gorgeous! I love looking at it, and the box ugh!
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/796/hyperventilating.gif

hatophile
08-22-2011, 06:31 AM
Stunnig, Alan.

carouselvic
03-03-2012, 10:37 AM
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TipTop
03-03-2012, 03:26 PM
I have several Churchills, and indeed, was watching/bidding on the cased example above and its Stetson mate (from same owner) that Alan got when my clicking finger didn't work fast enough. I have a fine gray-green one out at Rand's being rehabbed and it should be back mid-month. I have a Red River (below) in whiskey with feather band (that I added to replace the tired one on there), as Alan has shown earlier in this thread. It is probably my most comfortable hat. Both of those are from Nieman Marcus, although they were sold elsewhere. It's interesting to note that there has been a 1955 paper ad for sale on ePrey "introducing Churchill hats" by Neiman Marcus. I always figured they were another Hatco or Stetson high-end sub-brand that was designed with a western flair not to cannibalize Cavanagh or Stetson, yet sell at top-end prices. I maybe be wrong, but they seemed to come from nowhere, in 1955, and have pretty much returned there; the newer stuff--I have a packable--is nice but nowhere near the late-20th century NM quality.

http://gallery.photo.net/photo/15176032-md.jpg

TipTop
03-04-2012, 11:20 AM
And here is my contemporary Churchill, in, of all things, WOOL! Has a leather sweat and is nicely finished. Except for the pair of grommets on the sides, (which were not shown on ePrey) it is a presentable hat. No idea its manufacture date.
http://gallery.photo.net/photo/15291233-lg.jpg

KC Capellor
03-05-2012, 12:49 AM
Catching up with photo posting. Here's my Dad's Churchill Ltd. fedora, olive with Cavanagh edge. Dad age 82, hat age 55.
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5936/churchill044small.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/163/churchill044small.jpg/)
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TipTop
03-05-2012, 07:58 AM
That's "provenance"! Thanks and welcome.

KC Capellor
03-06-2012, 08:33 PM
Thanks, Ray. here's repost from ties for the rest. Fun to be able to wear dad's accessories with my estate-find jacket.Hometown store special ensemble: necktie JZ Richards for Halls of Kansas City, shown with vintage raw silk jacket Jack Henry's of KC, vintage crocodile belt Jack Henry's, 1950's vintage Churchill Ltd. fedora also JHKC.
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alanfgag
03-06-2012, 09:16 PM
Nice ensemble! Here is the liner from a Jack Henry private label homburg -1940s I would guess. Very nicely made hat... no idea as to the manufacturer.

http://www.avertedimagination.com/hats/jackhenrys.jpg

coble
03-07-2012, 01:51 PM
The Churchill Beaver - Vicuna 100 / Neiman Marcus exclusive... more pictures and description here (http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?58230-Churchill-Beaver-100-Vicuna).

http://www.avertedimagination.com/hats/churchill100/vicuna14.jpg

http://www.avertedimagination.com/hats/churchill100/vicuna7.jpg

http://www.avertedimagination.com/hats/churchill100/vicuna2.jpg

http://www.avertedimagination.com/hats/churchill100/vicuna6.jpg

http://www.avertedimagination.com/hats/churchill100/vicuna10.jpg

BEAUTIFUL, STUNNING, WOW, this is even AMAZING in open crown, love it.

KC Capellor
03-15-2012, 01:22 PM
Here's my dad's other Churchill - a black straw stingy brim Churchill Ltd. Zurich - Jack Henry's Kansas City. The straw and sweatband are great but the grosgrain hatband is wrinkled and stained through from its tape. Still a great dressy summer hat!
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TipTop
03-15-2012, 02:56 PM
Here's my dad's other Churchill - a black straw stingy brim Churchill Ltd. Zurich - Jack Henry's Kansas City. The straw and sweatband are great but the grosgrain hatband is wrinkled and stained through from its tape. Still a great dressy summer hat!

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Very handsome and a fitting name; as the Swiss romand would say "TZOO-reek"

KC Capellor
03-15-2012, 09:19 PM
Thanks, tiptop, I hope to have the hatband cleaned and reattached.

BTW, alanfgag, killer vicuna 100! and neat to see the Jack Henry label homburg.

Not a Churchill, but my dad's other remaining vintage summer hat is an Easy Livin' Cocoanut hawaiian trilby c.1958 from Jack Henry's as well - great fun and cool on a hot summer day. I think I remember him wearing bermuda shorts that matched the plaid madras hatband - now that is scary!
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scottdjones
06-19-2012, 01:33 PM
I just bought a Churchill Ltd Bowler on eBay.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v168/sdjones/stuff/churchillltdBowler.jpg

scottdjones
06-19-2012, 01:44 PM
More photos of my Churchill Bowler.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v168/sdjones/stuff/Bowler1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v168/sdjones/stuff/bowler2.jpg
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Fed in a Fedora
01-20-2014, 12:09 PM
The first hat that I purchased was a new Churchill. Got caught in a late cold snap while working in Springfield, Mass and had to buy some gear to deal with the cold. A O White had a sale and I got a hat and London Fog coat at a good price.

It had a paper tag which read "Saber". I thought this was the color, but it may have been the model. Not sure where that paper is now - been through many moves over the years and will likely turn up after it is not needed. The hat has literally been around the world.

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That purchase was 1987, so the Churchill name and image were still on hats later than this thread seems to imply. Actually, I see that Hats Plus site has about 4 Churchill hats listed now.

While the hat does not seem as high quality when compared to others that I have owned or handled, it is one of my favorite store bought hats and served well for decades of frequent use. A bit rumpled in the back of the crown - I may need to get it re-blocked, but it is still being worn regularly.

Fed

ManofKent
01-20-2014, 12:15 PM
Fed - it still looks good.