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aswatland
01-20-2008, 05:52 AM
Recently i took possession of a duo tone B3 by H. Bernstein in a size 42. It is a transitional B3 in that the maker used hand dyed shearling for the cuffs and one size panel. The rest of the fleece is machine spray dyed. Prior to late 1941 B3s were made using the hand dyed method. The Bernstein contract dates from 1942. There is a picture of one in the Eastman Golden book. The jacket is in remarkably good condition with very little wear to the cuffs and hem. But it has seen service!

The second jacket also does not have the maker on the label and is also a size 42. This contract also dates to 1942 and is machine sprayed a seal brown. The facings are a little lighter than the seal brown shearling, but darker than the russet facings on the Bernstein. It was worn by a Lieutenant in the USAAF and has virtually no wear and I would describe it as "near mint".

The photos show the differences between the two jackets.

Bernstein
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l15/aswatland/033-2.jpg
No-name maker 42-21700p
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l15/aswatland/035-1.jpg

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l15/aswatland/003-17.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l15/aswatland/005-13.jpg

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l15/aswatland/007-14.jpg
Honey-coloured veg tanned fleece of the Bernstein

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l15/aswatland/006-14.jpg
Chrome Tanned fleece of the Non-name maker

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l15/aswatland/008-15.jpg
Bernstein pocket
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l15/aswatland/019-5.jpg
21700p pocket-note the differences in shape.


http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l15/aswatland/015-13.jpg
Hand dyed cuffs on the Bernstein
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l15/aswatland/022-9.jpg
Machine sprayed cuffs

aswatland
01-20-2008, 06:00 AM
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l15/aswatland/013-15.jpg
Bernstein spec label
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l15/aswatland/046.jpg
21700p label
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l15/aswatland/010-14.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l15/aswatland/011-13.jpgBuckles on the Bernstein

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l15/aswatland/020-10.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l15/aswatland/018-13.jpg
21700p

Collar seam on the Bernstein
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l15/aswatland/014-10.jpg

21700p
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l15/aswatland/026-8.jpg

Bernstein's tripple marked Talon zip
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l15/aswatland/016-9.jpg

Tripple talon on 21700p
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l15/aswatland/048-1.jpg

jamespibworth@n
01-20-2008, 06:26 AM
Thanks for sharing those with us, just great!:eusa_clap

Interesting for me to see the some of the constriction differences from say an Irvin, for example the inside sleeve seams are not taped and the zip is tape is é─˛exposedé─˘ on one side.

I am under the understanding that B3s have not lasted as well as Irviné─˘s due to the skins used. Is this correct?

James

aswatland
01-20-2008, 06:55 AM
Thanks James, You are quite right about the fleeces used for B3s. They are usually not as robust as those used for Irvins due to the type of fleece used. My two originals are exceptions and are wearable jackets. Here are a couple more details:

USAAF decal on the Bernstein
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l15/aswatland/009-16.jpg

Lieutenant bar on the insignia tag on the other jacket.
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l15/aswatland/027-5.jpg

Mike1973
01-20-2008, 09:49 AM
A great couple of survivors! Where do you keep this wonderful collection of jackets though?

Baron Kurtz
01-20-2008, 10:27 AM
Leaky, moth-infested garden shed? ;)

bk

aswatland
01-20-2008, 10:50 AM
Leaky, moth-infested garden shed? ;)

bk

Too true. The jackets soak up the rain!lol

Baron Kurtz
01-20-2008, 10:55 AM
Sheepskin makes good insulation for that leaky roof. :p

bk

aswatland
01-20-2008, 11:01 AM
Quite! Now which Irvin or B3 shall I test on the roof?;)