"Who You Tryin' t'be - Indiana JONES?"

[MK]

......tell them:

Not really. I am trying to be Charlton Heston from Secret of the Incas

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jones-jr/images_influences/v_incas.jpg

....actually maybe I am trying to be Alan Ladd from China


http://www.regular-guy.com/images/China1.jpg

[The Wolf]

Last Halloween at work I dressed as Indy and told some people I was Alan Ladd from "China". Funny thing is, I believe he was named Jones also.

Two funny bits with William Bendix in the movie:
First, when Bendix and Ladd are going to get in a fight, Bendix warns "Someone's gonna get hurt!", Ladd knocks him down, and Bendix' reply? : "I told someone would get hurt."
Second: Look for the full body shot of them walking away from the camera and you'll notice that Bendix is walking hunched over. It is easier to hide Ladd's height in close-ups.

The Wolf

[Biltmore Bob]

I think it was Gary Cooper. He had a leather bomber with sheepskin collar, and a brown fedora.

[BellyTank]

That 'Grapes' reference is a real good one- one that I hadn't thought of.
Yes, it's the right type of hat and coat.

Well spotted Scotrace.

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[scotrace]

Yes, the other films mentioned are also "leather jacket and hat." There are obviously plenty of those in earlier films to draw from. But the fellow in GOW is wearing, I thought, a remarkably close to ROTLA jacket and hat. Not just A jacket and hat, but almost THE jacket and hat. The others illustrated are wartime flight jackets showing up in postwar films (note the knit cuffs).
Of course, like many people here, I'm a fan of the Indiana Jones films. But sometimes, when I want to wear the tie, jacket and hat, as in the pictures at top, and I get those remarks, I wish they had chosen a plaid jacket and beret for the character... :)
I think in an earlier thread the authenticity of the Indiana Jones jacket to the period was debated in the contaxt of "why buy a Wested?" I also wanted to post these pictures to add to that discussion. This film (Grapes of Wrath) was released in 1940, though I think it is set a few years earlier. Close enough to The Adventurer's time to be of note.
In short, I have way to much time on my hands today. ;) Better slide into my LL Bean Hunter's pants and leather cap and get mowing.

[K.D. Lightner]

Here is a photo I found of Cooper in the movie:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/6303560040.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Hope I got all the dashes and dots, not to mention the Z's....

karol

That was a popular male adventurer image from the later 30's and early 40's, which is probably why Indy's look was created the way it was.

karol

[K.D. Lightner]

When I was a teeny kid, I saw the movie The Greatest Show on Earth. In it, Chuck Heston portrayed the circus manager or owner or something like that. He wore a brown leather jacket and a fedora in the movie. Here is one photo I found which shows the fedora but not the leather jacket:

http://www.movie-poster-posters.com/pix/11.jpg

Now lets see if that comes up. There is an even better movie poster of him standing in his outfit, but it is awfully teeny. Here is it:

http://www.bestprices.com/cgi-bin/vlink/097360661743IE.html

He needs a whip is all.... Probably had one of those, too, or was it the ringmaster?

karol

[Biltmore Bob]

Thanks, Karol...That movie, For Whom the Bell Tolls, is what got me interested in Fedoras as a kind of adventure wear thing. Even before Raiders. Radiers sort of solidified my interest...if that makes sense.

[Biltmore Bob]

Did you get saved?

[scotrace]

Deleted all references to church.
My apologies if I have offended anyone.

[Biltmore Bob]

Whatever, man. We are all adults, and I assume tolerant. Why would the mention of church offend anyone?

CHURCH! CHURCH! The sky is falling, Repent, the end is nigh!

Here ya go...lets really offend someone...MOSQUE! There take that!

How 'bout this...SYNOGOUGE! Wow that's really hitting below the belt.

Big deal.

[scotrace]

Simple. I am here to talk about all things Golden Era. I mentioned that I was writing a piece about the service at my churh that had gone two hours. My intent in editing my posts was to prevent the thread from diverting from the point, which is that the guy in the scene from Grapes of Wrath, pictured above, surprised me when I spotted him wearing an "Indy" jacket and hat. I didn't clip it very well, but you could take that fedora off his head and drop it on Harrison Ford's and it might just pass. But for the absent storm flap, the jacket, from what is visible, is pretty close too. That means no knit cuffs, no shearling collar, etc.
It was I who went off-topic. I don't want to talk about church (except in the context of 'take off your hat when in...'). I just want to talk about clothes and hats and shoes and planes and weapons and caps and girls.
Y'know. Fun stuff. :)

Best Regards.

[K.D. Lightner]

OK, here is the real deal, enshrined forever:

http://www.150.si.edu/150trav/remember/r1114a.jpg

Hope it comes up.

I am still looking for adventurer actors who dressed like Indy in the 30's, 40's and 50's.

karol

[BellyTank]

Saved? here we go-
Speaking of JS-
I noted that Gary Sinese had a leather jacket (maybe suede)
and Fedora in the more recent film adaptation of- 'Of Mice and Men'-
another instance. It was a pretty common getup in those days-
Rich-man, Workman, Sporty, everyguy getup.

Gary Sinese and John Malkovich. Workman and his Tool.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/micecov.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/OfMiceMenCDBack.jpg

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[K.D. Lightner]

Bet this guy was never asked who in the world he was supposed to be:

http://www.disfarmer.com/images/medium/1037.jpg

It was obviously a "working class guy" look from that era, also. Not an indy fedora or jacket, but in the ballpark.

karol

[BellyTank]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/drive8.jpg
Bogey and George Raft- jackets and hats-

We did Alan Ladd I think but he deserves another viewing of the classic shot-
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/China4.jpg
Check out his Fullers Earth...

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[scotrace]

I noted that Gary Sinese had a leather jacket (maybe suede)
and Fedora in the more recent film adaptation of- 'Of Mice and Men'-
another instance. It was a pretty common getup in those days-
Rich-man, Workman, Sporty, everyguy getup.


I like the Don Johnson sleeves addition to The Look... :)

[K.D. Lightner]

I remember Keanu a few years ago in A Walk in the Clouds.

He has the hat, but needs the jacket, can't recall if he had one or not:


http://www.shop4photos.net/graphics/215/215396.jpg


karol

[Matt Deckard]

http://images7.fotki.com/v110/photos/8/83243/1361294/A21-vi.jpg

[BellyTank]

I know who this one is!

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[BellyTank]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/zaphobeeblebrox/China2-1.jpg

[The Wingnut]

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/6302875064.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

[The Wingnut]

Willie Scott - "What are you supposed to be, a lion tamer?!"

There's a little clue as to where Lucas stole Indy from. Find a lion tamer character in an old film, one that's dressed in a brown fedora and a leather jacket. Chances are, you're looking at the original Indy. There's another reference to this in Last Crusade, in the railcar with the lion and Indy's first use of a bullwhip.

Lucas is known for making little obscure references to other movies or hiding little hints of his other works. THX-138 was his first feature film, 'THX' and 'THX-138' show up everywhere in his movies. Look at the license plate on the '32 coupe in American Graffiti and you'll see what I mean.

[The Wolf]

My understanding for Indy's look was Steranko made the pre-production paintings for concepts and the costume designer went from that.
Steranko is a well known lover of the golden age so he probably influenced by a lot of the films mentioned previously.

The Wolf

[Badluck Brody]

Many I've never seen... Keep em comming!

"No luck at all"

[K.D. Lightner]

Yes, I have seen Mickey in his Indy garb, but it seems Indy is everywhere:

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/_gfx_/conventions/la/Adv_Kermit.jpg


Hope I got all the dots and dashes....

karol

[ITG]

Ah yes! I have that Kermit. It even has a magnetic fedora. Love the Gonzo idol. Veggie Tales is coming out with an Indy based cartoon for Larry the Cucumber on June 25th:
http://www.bigidea.com/videos/veggietales/vt025/default.htm

My favorite is the Indy Pooh beanie that the Disney parks sold.