Girdles, Corsets, and Underpinnings [Archive] - Page 2

BonnieJean

11-24-2006, 05:35 AM

Renee,
I think the catalog is the same as the online version. I was on their mailing list for a while after placing an order online a while back. I remember thinking the catalog had the same stuff as online. If you really want a catalog, just place a small order and I'm sure you'll get one with your order as well as be on their mailing list for a while. Their stocking sizes run a little larger than what I usually get. I'm only 5'4" but have kind of long legs and so I'll usually get a 'long' length. I think SIL stocking sizes run S,M,L and I ordered a long and it was way too long for me and I had to exchange it. But it was very easy to exchange. I think the catalog is nice when you want to have a 'hard copy' to look through, but I would never pay for one.

Just my 2 cents....

fleur

11-24-2006, 05:42 AM

Correct thread!

Landgirl that looks nice!

I have the image of the doreen bra my great aunt used to wear and it wasnt pretty!

However I am blessed to have the smallest chest size in my family at a 38 D/DD depending on my mood and the make of the bra!

Renee

11-24-2006, 05:52 AM

Umm..

Here it is!

http://i3.ebayimg.com/04/i/07/87/43/3f_1_b.JPG

That's a very pretty bra! I like the look of it, with the soft coton and the pretty embroidery.

Is this only made for large-breasted ladies? I'm a 34B, and while I have no problem finding my bra size, often the bras that I like the look of are made only for those with larger cup sizes.

GOK

11-24-2006, 06:03 AM

I don't think so - I'm sure I've seen it in smaller sizes.

~landgirl~

11-24-2006, 06:30 AM

Yeah I think the 'doreen' range caters for all! Shall I e-mail the seller to see if she plans selling any more?

GOK

11-24-2006, 06:31 AM

Oh yes, please do. Thanks Jen. :D

~landgirl~

11-24-2006, 06:40 AM

Crikey, she was super quick at replying! But the answer was not at the moment, but she said she would let me know if any come in.

Mine wasn't tagged and there isn't even a code on the label - but I am going to make it my mission to search for it on google! It's so very comfy and looks great with a jumper!

~landgirl~

11-24-2006, 06:44 AM

GOK

11-24-2006, 06:57 AM

Yes it does look like that one. I like the first one the best - it looks slightly more pointy that the others.

LadyDeWinter

11-24-2006, 07:57 AM

Has anyone ever received a catalog from Secrets in Lace? Does the catalog offer more selections than the website, or is it basically the same thing just in print?

I prefer to "shop" with a catalog and then place an order online, but the Secrets in Lace catalog is pricey and I don't want to spend the money if it's just the website all over again.

Thanks for your help!

Hello Renee

I once bought the catalogue but 10$ are too much for it. There is more on the website than in the catalogue.

By the way, they have really cute tap pants at the moment.

ohairas

11-24-2006, 01:45 PM

Very pretty bra Landgirl, love the eyelet!

GOK, I would love to hear more about corsets and fitting, etc. And for the record, the ones I am pictured in were either vintage and certainly didn't fit me properly but I just HAD to wear them for pics, and the one I had made for me I asked for a bit smaller size so it would fit me after I'm at my goal weight. Also, I'm wearing a bra with it and have it pushed down below the bra which is incorrect, but my dress didn't fit properly if I didn't wear it that way. This one is just a rather "costume" one for my gwtw stuff. It was made with bust, waist and hip measurements of how "I" wanted it to fit.
Indeed, I would love to have one that was *really* fitted and longer through the torso, but not an edwardian style. Could you please tell me more about gussets at the breast area?

I also think it's important for the gals to know that you should never throw on a corset and lace tight. You really should have one made to your exact size, then wear it to break it in before cinching tighter, over quite a long period of time. They shouldn't be uncomfortable at all.

Nikki

Renee

11-24-2006, 02:38 PM

It looks like it could be the one at the very bottom:

http://www.undercoverexperience.co.uk/TRIDOR.HTM

mine has the same line going down the middle of the cup and swirls at the side. And yes, they do B cups! If you are in the US you may want to look search the style number and find it on a US site to save a few pennies.

Yes, I'd already googled and found that site! I think what I'm going to do is to try and find some bras in the U.S. that have that "look" to them. Most of the bras that I've bought in the past don't look right (at least to me) with my Rago shapewear. I think it has something to do with the way the cups are designed on newer bras; they appear rounder/curvier. I'm not looking for a bullet bra (I don't know if I could fill out the points! LOL) but something with a little more vintage-style appeal.

~landgirl~

11-25-2006, 03:46 AM

With underbust girdles - do you actually measure the underbust and order the girdle in that size?

My under bust is 30 inches and my waist is 32 (and if I pull TIGHT on the measuring tape, it's a 31!) But surely a 32 inch girdle will bag under the bust?

By the way, I am talking about shapewear again!

P.S. I am probably asking the same question as before, but in a different voice LOL - I should just try the damn thing!

RetroModelSari

11-25-2006, 04:22 AM

I avoided that thread about corsets, cause I allways get sad cause I can hardly afford one. The problem is I¬¥d have to have one made by my meassures. There is no problem when I wear a waist corset, but I just can¬¥t wear a bust corset cause if I do I can¬¥t lace my waist to the maximum. I¬¥ve been modelling for a corset-seller once and it just wasn¬¥t how it could be.

Usually I can lace down from 32 inches to 24, but with a overbust one I just can¬¥t close the back totally. I know that going down 8 inches sounds a lot, but I just have a very soft tummy. Even in girdles I can wear a 27 with no big problems.

Well I think I got to start saving my money so I can have on one made to my measures.

ohairas

11-25-2006, 06:50 AM

I just can¬¥t close the back totally.

The corset should never close all the way and meet in the back, there should always be about a two inch gap for flex.

I know what you mean tho. You should save your money and treat yourself to one made to your measurements some day~ or keep your eyes peeled on ebay, you might get lucky!

Nikki

GOK

11-25-2006, 07:56 AM

The corset should never close all the way and meet in the back, there should always be about a two inch gap for flex.

Absolutely but you'd be surprised how many people don't understand that. If it laces closed then it is too large!

I know what you mean tho. You should save your money and treat yourself to one made to your measurements some day~ or keep your eyes peeled on ebay, you might get lucky!

Nikki

Am I allowed to say here that I allow my clients to pay by instalment?

Jen - it's your waist measurement, not your underbust.

CanadaDoll

11-25-2006, 10:14 AM

I've always been curious about corsets and tightlacing, but I've always been told that besides being uncomfortable, corsets and tightlacing are very unhealthy:(

You ladies seem to know a lot about this, any wisdom for me?:)

GOK I think I saw that you are a corsetiere, what are your thoughts?

GOK

11-25-2006, 10:40 AM

There are probably more myths spread around about corsets than any other garments. The most popular one being that Victorian women often had their lower ribs removed to give them a more wasp waist. This simply isn't true. For a start, medical technology in that era was not sufficiently advanced to perform such an operation. Then there is the question of anaesthesia. And even if the operation could have been carried out, the patient would most likely die of post operative complications.

Are corsets unhealthy or bad for you? I don't think so. Being constantly corseted will certainly change one's shape and I cannot help but wonder whether there is an amount of muscle wastage because the corset does most of the work. I have heard of people that wear them 23/7 unable to lay down properly if uncorseted but since I have never attempted to train my waist like this, I cannot say for sure. And of course, every person is different.

For the average corset wearer however, provided the garment is well made and fits properly, there should be no discomfort at all and certainly no damage. One of my friends bought a corset (not from me - it was an off the peg one) and after wearing it for a few hours, complained that it actually hurt her ribs. She was still in pain the next day. A corset should never do this and I'd say that the problem she experienced was probably due to the corset's vertical measurements not matching her own, which meant that the pressure would not have been evenly distributed.

I cannot emphasise enough how important it is to have properly fitting corsets. I could go on for ages about this subject but I don't want to clog up the thread. If people want to know more, I'll happily post more but otherwise, PM me!

Lauren

11-25-2006, 11:04 AM

For the average corset wearer however, provided the garment is well made and fits properly, there should be no discomfort at all and certainly no damage. One of my friends bought a corset (not from me - it was an off the peg one) and after wearing it for a few hours, complained that it actually hurt her ribs. She was still in pain the next day. A corset should never do this and I'd say that the problem she experienced was probably due to the corset's vertical measurements not matching her own, which meant that the pressure would not have been evenly distributed.

I agree with this wholeheartedly. At costume events it's not uncommon to go for 8+ hours corseted. When I had an off the peg corset one of my ribs would start to hurt after a few hours and would just be sore, but since I made my own I can wear one the whole time with no discomfort. I actually think they are way more comfortable than a bra and girdle or waistcincher. AND I love the shape they give... If ANYTHING can make me have ANY definition up top, I'm all for it ;)

I took the Truly Victorian corset class in Riverside, CA with Queenie and made their new corset pattern. I know they have them from time to time. If anyone's interested, here's their site:
http://www.trulyvictorian.com They have a message board that's great foro Q&A as well, if you need help with their or the Laughing Moon corset pattern :)

RetroModelSari

11-25-2006, 02:21 PM

Absolutely but you'd be surprised how many people don't understand that. If it laces closed then it is too large!

Am I allowed to say here that I allow my clients to pay by instalment?

Jen - it's your waist measurement, not your underbust.

Instalment? Hmmm... I think I have to have a talk with you!!! :)

GOK

11-26-2006, 05:10 AM

I actually think they are way more comfortable than a bra and girdle or waistcincher. AND I love the shape they give

I agree - no diggy-in bits, no having to worry about straps...fantastic!

Have you seen the LM video?

birdiepie

11-26-2006, 06:48 AM

Placing an order with SIL seems to put you on their mailing list for life! Instead of spending $10 for the catalogue, just buy some RHT's and you're set.

Currently the catalogue does have a couple items that are not yet up on their site, but this seems to be a first.

fleur

11-26-2006, 09:35 AM

Well I am a corset fan (as you may have guessed by now!) and should receive mine made for me quite soon.

Once I have shifted some more of my weight gok I will be coming your way :D

Kitty55

11-26-2006, 09:39 AM

Fascinating thread!

GOK, I've been attempting to PM you, but apparently I'm not allowed...could you please try to PM me? I have questions for a professional! :)

Kitty

Grace

11-26-2006, 09:50 AM

lindylady

11-26-2006, 10:27 AM

I have a few corsets, but unfortunately none of the real, custom made steel boned ones. I cannot wear them everyday because they flatten my chest as much as the cinch my waist! I love they way they feel.

Anyone know where i can find a good quality waist cincher? I have a slim, boyish figure with a 24" waist and 33" hips. The smaller my waist, the curvier my figure looks. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated!

:)

Try the Flexees brand in Macys lingerie department. It's modern, but it really gives you an hourglass figure. I also have a boyish figure, but when I put it on, I obtained that classic silhouette. It's very comfortable and lightweight too, so you won't feel like you're struggling for air. I paid $31 for mine, but Macys will be having their holiday sales soon. Just don't say out loud in the dressing room "Yay! I look like a real broad now!" like I did lol

Grace

11-26-2006, 11:26 AM

Try the Flexees brand in Macys lingerie department. It's modern, but it really gives you an hourglass figure. I also have a boyish figure, but when I put it on, I obtained that classic silhouette. It's very comfortable and lightweight too, so you won't feel like you're struggling for air. I paid $31 for mine, but Macys will be having their holiday sales soon. Just don't say out loud in the dressing room "Yay! I look like a real broad now!" like I did lol

Oo, thank you! I'll check it out this week. lol I haven't been able to say i "look like a real broad" very many times!

GOK

11-26-2006, 01:27 PM

Fascinating thread!

GOK, I've been attempting to PM you, but apparently I'm not allowed...could you please try to PM me? I have questions for a professional! :)

Kitty

I can't PM you until you have a few more posts, Sweetie. I think you need to have 15 before PMing works either way. I suggest making a few more posts then trying again or email me at:

loviatar AT loviatarfalls DOT com

(Bartenders - I assume it's ok to post mail addies in that form?)

MissMissy

12-04-2006, 06:06 AM

Would someone please be so kind to explain a shelf bust to me? I am confused, looking at e-bay I have seen several dresses described as having a shelf bust and I couldn't find any significant similarities in the dresses. One description said the shelf bust is perfect for a larger bust (which I have) but I just don't understand why. I like to sew but I have never used a pattern with one so I just can't fathom it. [huh] I appreciate any help on this matter, thank you.
Missy

jitterbugdoll

12-04-2006, 07:21 AM

A shelf bust is a bodice with a built in bra effect (you often see draping or gathers underneath the bust line, or features such as a petal or wing bust fabric additions, added with the intention of bringing the bust "up and out"). This effect was very popular in 1950s dresses, as it really accentuates a full bust and the ever popular hourglass figure so desired during that era.

Here are some examples:

http://www.wias.5u.com/wd100FD.jpg

http://www.dandelionvintage.com/dv364c.jpg

http://www.wackycats.com/DRESSES/04-23-2006%20236P/IM000151.JPG

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6cc25b3127cce8f8084e3f60f00000015108AatmbRq2ctP

MissMissy

12-05-2006, 05:56 AM

Thank you Jitterbugdoll, The pictures were so cute too.:)
thanks,
missy

fortworthgal

12-13-2006, 06:29 PM

My garter belt gave out last weekend at a dance, so I'm in search of a new one. Right now I'm looking at the waist cincher mybabyjo.com has available for $34 - it looks cute on the site and would make for a nicer foundation than just a plain garter belt, and offer a little control under more fitted garments. Anyone have it? I'm wondering about quality.

It is on this page, 3rd item down:
http://www.mybabyjo.com/under.htm

Miss_Bella_Hell

12-13-2006, 07:00 PM

I believe that's the Rago pink waist cincher, Style 721. Google it, you can spend less on it. I totally recommend Rago though.

fortworthgal

12-13-2006, 07:14 PM

Thanks! I have one of the Rago corsolettes and I love it.

Miss_Bella_Hell

12-13-2006, 07:22 PM

Sure! They're my fave.

Madison Paige

12-14-2006, 08:33 AM

I have it, Its very nice actually. It's wonderful as a garter belt, but the cincher doesn't do too much cinching, if that makes sense. But it does smooth things out quite a bit. If you're looking for something like that, I absolutly recommend it!

Lauren

12-14-2006, 09:33 AM

I have this waist cincher as well. It gets me down 1", and I can't even do that with my corsets, so I'm a big fan. I thought it would be uncomforatable to wear, but it wasn't, surprisingly. I wore it for over 6 hours with no uncomfort at all.
I think I bought mine from Lauren Silva, but they dont' have it online anymore. I might have bought it from Girdlebound (http://www.girdlebound.com/store/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=GVG&Product_Code=21&Category_Code=ccgb), though. It's $33 over there.

Lola Valentine

12-14-2006, 11:25 AM

I have that waist cincher too, & like Lauren, it takes me down 1". The first time I wore it, I found it so uncomfortable & had to take it off, then strangely enough the next time I was able to wear it for 10 hours straight with no discomfort. weird. but yes, it's very good.

Girl Friday

12-14-2006, 11:31 AM

I gotta get me one of those!

GOK

12-14-2006, 07:16 PM

I have the black cincher that Bernie's wearing just below that one and it's wonderful. If that pink/black one is anything like it, then I'd say go for it. I would also point out that I didn't go up a size as advised (I'm w-30/h-42) and the 30" fits perfectly.

fleur

12-15-2006, 01:22 AM

GOK

12-15-2006, 02:25 AM

Gok have you had your hair cut!!! Very nice.

:offtopic: No I haven't! It's snooded!!! I curled it to go out the night before last and yesterday it looked a fright and I didn't have time to wash, dry and style it before my housekeeper arrived, so on went the snood! lol I was playing around with my webcam and snagged that pic, which I thought was sort of cute...inasmuch as I can be cute!

See my fab vintage (and pink!) frock hanging on the door behind me? I still haven't tried it on! :eusa_doh:

I have a Rago high waisted open bottomed girdle that I wore for the first time on the weekend with six suspender straps - so comfy and it kept my seams straight all night!

I have one of those but was stupidly optimistic in thinking a 28" would fit snugly. I've had enough of the extra poundage - it's going after Cashmas (the flab, not the cincher). :(

Fleur De Guerre

12-15-2006, 02:41 AM

Gok have you had your hair cut!!! Very nice.

I have a Rago high waisted open bottomed girdle that I wore for the first time on the weekend with six suspender straps - so comfy and it kept my seams straight all night!

Is it from WKD or somewhere else? I want a girdle but I can't work out what to get or where to get it! High waisted sounds perfect as it would remove my paranoia of bulges! If you got it from somewhere not FL friendly, please could you PM me the link? I would be most grateful! :)

GOK

12-15-2006, 04:14 AM

I bought my one from Girdlezone. Even with shipping it was cheaper to buy it from the US than over here. Not that WKD sells those ones, of course!

Twinkle

12-15-2006, 05:40 AM

I've got the black high waist rago from WKD and it is wonderful, very comfortable....

I've got a Triumph corselette on today, haven't worn that in a while, forgotton how comfy that is too...

E x

CanadaDoll

12-15-2006, 08:53 AM

Wow!
These girdles sound good, a few days ago I bought my very first true vintage, a lovely 1940's gray green skirt suit, the jacket is the most interesting thing, but I am sadly slightly too "voluptuous" for the skirt, but in a girdle.....:D

Miss Dottie

12-15-2006, 12:50 PM

I've bought many Rago items from girdlebound.com--garter, waist cinchers and the full body girdles--they rule and are very comfortable as well.

fortworthgal

12-15-2006, 08:25 PM

Thanks for all the input, girls. I have a Rago corsolette that I picked up from Girdlebound either earlier this year, or late last year - can't remember. I'm very happy with it! I haven't ordered the waist cincher yet as I just haven't made the time to do it. However, I did pick up a vintage 40s or 50s girdle today at the antique mall for $11! Fits like a dream, has perfect garters, and the bra cups even give that slightly-pointy-but-not-missile vintage shape! I'm very happy.

I still plan to order the cincher. Heck, maybe I'll go do it right now. lol

fleur

12-16-2006, 05:20 AM

I cant remember where i got the girdle from but I know that Gok sent me there! .... uhm.... hold on I think it was Orchard Corsets on Ebay

:offtopic: By the way your hair looks wonderful snooded!

My Rago came from the States and makes such a difference that I had to take my skirt in after trying it on with it as it was too loose.

Would most definitely recommend.

KaitlynDawn

12-19-2006, 04:48 PM

I know there have been some posts here about tap-panties and the such, and as I was browing Ebay today I came across a seller with some gorgeous nylon and satin vintage-esque panties. There not tap-panties and they're a pretty penny, but I'd love to own a pair or two!

http://www.michellekelly.com/Lingerie/Megan/Panties/DV_Peach_Panty/DSC04397.jpg

http://www.michellekelly.com/Lingerie/Megan/Panties/Pink_Pink_Panty/IMG_8239.jpg

Her seller ID is *californiadoll*

-Kaitlyn

birdiepie

12-19-2006, 04:59 PM

Those are very cute! I have bought a pair from her in the past and they are very well made, though I think they had the fetishist in mind (no cotton gusset--how very... vintage!). For everyday wear though, I'd recommend the Bali "Skimp Skamp" brief--- it's generous enough to cover a garterbelt, but doesn't create any bulk like a tap panty might.

~landgirl~

12-20-2006, 01:50 AM

I have bought from that e-bay seller before, she is a great seller! I hadn't seen those undies before though and now I want!

LadyDeWinter

12-20-2006, 10:34 AM

Hello KaitlynDawn,

I have those panties too. I like them so much, they are great. I also bought one of those bras, shown in the second photo.

Ccc

12-20-2006, 02:06 PM

I'm looking for a pattern to sew tap pants or french knickers. If anyone has such a pattern, knows where I could purchase one, or would be able to make one for me, please let me know! Thanks for your ideas.:)

Cheers!

BonnieJean

12-20-2006, 05:44 PM

Ccc, Folkwear has a tap pants pattern.

http://folkwear.com/219.html

I haven't used it yet, but I did give it a once over and there are only 3 pattern pieces to the tap pants. I like how it can be either snap or button on the side. They also give ideas how to add "frillys" to them to make them more vintage.

My New Year's Resolution (which I've stated elsewhere in the Powder Room) is to make my own tap pants. With all the fabric choices out there, my "undies" wardrobe could be limitless!

~landgirl~

12-21-2006, 03:43 AM

Thanks for the link BonnieJean - I just purchased it too!

CanadaDoll

12-21-2006, 11:31 AM

Any of you lovely ladies know if MBJ ships to Canada? and if so how much is it?
I sent a message, but I haven't gotten any replies[huh]
If y'all could help me out I'd love it:D

kitty

12-21-2006, 12:40 PM

I have the black Rago cincher from My Baby Jo. I'm really happy with it. I accidentally ordered mine one size too small, but it still fits great. The garter straps one it are great, too.

~landgirl~

12-22-2006, 02:11 AM

Just an update on the folkwear pattern.

I placed my order but got an e-mail yesterday to say they are all out - :eusa_doh:

HOWEVER, the pattern is being recut to include more sizes and will now run from sizes 8 - 22. It will be finished end of feb and back on the site as soon as!

Ccc

12-24-2006, 08:01 PM

Thank you for the pattern update. I hope the pattern comes in a petite sizing option, or is easy to resize.

Merry Christmas!

BettyValentine

12-27-2006, 08:38 AM

What are your favorite foundation garments, and has anyone had any success getting the "new look" silhouette with modern shapewear?

I've tried every waist cincher, bustier, girdle, and merry widow I could possibly find, and nothing even approximated the V-shaped torso of the 50s models in my magazines. Actual corsets came closest, but they still weren't quite right. I was starting to figure that it was just the way I was shaped, and I'd never be able to get the right silhouette. I could come close, but it just wasn't like the girls in the pictures.

Then I found some vintage merry widows on ebay by Warner's (Thanks for the search help, Jitterbugdoll!) and I picked them both up, one in black and one in white. Anyway, I was skeptical when I tried them on, but they're perfect. I don't know how they do it, but they shape better than my corsets, and the V-shape is just right. Now I worry that the tiny waist makes my arms look big by comparison. (Oh, nothing is ever right!)

The ones I have are exactly the models advertised in this picture (oddly, the black one is deadstock and the band around the waist and the ribbons covering the garter clips are *scarlet*! Ack! How naughty... The white one is not new, but still good):

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o306/fatwetdog/merry_widow_1142281661.jpg

BettyValentine

12-27-2006, 09:00 AM

Oh right, also, am I supposed to wear it over the petticoat like that picture shows? Or is the ad just doing it like that to show off the merry widows?

(I can never quite wrap my brain around the wearing order of vintage undergarments.)

BegintheBeguine

12-27-2006, 09:02 AM

:) Wow what a great find. 2 finds. You wear the Merry Widow under the petticoat. Then the garter straps can hold up your stockings.

Lauren

12-27-2006, 09:25 AM

Ooh... those are purty. I wish I could pull those off...

Classydame

12-27-2006, 02:32 PM

Does anyone have any information on garters such as what types of stockings to wear with ie silk, nylon or cotton and if there were only certain types of dresses they would be worn with?

I recently saw a pre-code movie with Harlow and she was wearing garters instead of a "softie". I have the Everyday Fashions of the Thirties, however I don't recall seeing garters in it. So, I am putting it to you ladies. What do you think?

mysterygal

12-27-2006, 02:36 PM

I always like wearing silk, there's something about the feel of it that's great. And I would think any kind of dress would be ok to wear with garters...as with most cases though, you do get what you pay for, I had some that were pretty darn useless, which is NOT good when you're wanting your stockings to be staying up!

birdiepie

12-27-2006, 08:17 PM

"nothing even approximated the V-shaped torso of the 50s models in my magazines. Actual corsets came closest, but they still weren't quite right"

Corsets differ greatly in shape. For me, the most effective method of achieving this shape is with an underbust corset with a conical ribcage, as opposed to one that curves over the ribs--- the shape is much more graceful and like the "V shape" that you describe.

Jenautica

01-05-2007, 04:31 PM

I picked the pink/black cincher up off of ebay for $29 last week. It came today and I couldn't wait to try it on. I'm actually quite pleased. It's not as constricting as I thought it would be, but it definitely gives a nice smooth shape. The garters are constructed very well too!

I went with my my actual waist measurement instead of going up a size and the fit is perfect.:D

KatieD

01-07-2007, 06:34 AM

The Rago code 721 pink and black cincher is very different from the code 21 powermesh plain black (or white one). Whilst the powermesh one gives a great shape the pink and black one doesn't seem to do anything. It's made from heavyweight lycra which might have something to do with it. We ended up recommending people go one or two sizes down, but even so it doesn't give the shaping the powermesh cincher does. In the end we discontinued it - it might look pretty but there is lots of lingerie out there which looks pretty - I expect a product from Rago to actually do something (needless to say, the rest of Rago products are fab)

Katie

jazzzbaby

01-25-2007, 12:26 AM

I am buying a new waist cincher b/c the one I recently bought (my first one ever) is really uncomfortable and moves around.

Anyhow...I am getting the Rago Waist Cincher...now the issue here is color.
They have white or black. Do you find that the white shows up when wearing black....or do you find black shows up when wearing light colors?

The one I currently have is a nude color so I haven't found any 'color' issue with my clothing.

Thanks for your input!!!!

jitterbugdoll

01-25-2007, 05:20 AM

I have both a black and a white cincher, and wear the black one most often because I like the fit better. I do wear it under light colored dresses; I just make sure to always pair it with an opaque nude slip. The same goes for white as well; it shouldn't matter what you wear it under so long as you are also wear a slip (which is important anyway; many vintage fabrics like crepe are very see-through, and whatever you are wearing underneath might be put on display.)

jitterbugdoll

01-29-2007, 07:06 AM

The Rago code 721 pink and black cincher is very different from the code 21 powermesh plain black (or white one).

I purchased the 721 style before reading this thread, but after receiving it I think it does the job just fine. It doesn't have the cinching power of the style 21 (which does offer maximum reduction), but I like it as well as, if not better than, my Lady Marlene waist cincher. I like the fabric the 721 is made out of quite a bit; it's soft and comfortable and the stays don't rub in an uncomfortable fashion either (sometimes my Lady Marlene cincher seems to have this problem.)

Pandora Pitstop

01-29-2007, 12:10 PM

jitterbugdoll

01-29-2007, 12:15 PM

If you don't need a corselette or full on waist cincher, Secrets in Lace do a wonderful high waisted stretch suspender belt with 6 suspenders. 6 is the minimum you should ever purchase for keeping seams tidy. They also do amazing silk stockings!

I bought a similar one from Girdlebound (and I had a great one from Vicki's Nylons, but I don't think she sells quite the same style anymore), and I like it as well as a waist cincher for daily wear (that type of garter belt is quite comfortable, in fact.) However, I personally prefer four suspenders; I usually don't have much trouble with keeping my seams neat (I think because I have fairly curvy legs and stockings just don't seem to move around much on me :))

jazzzbaby

01-29-2007, 09:31 PM

I just got the Rago 21 in black but I have to send it back for a size smaller.
I am hoping it will be the right fit with comfort b/c I did measure accordingly and the one I ordered should have fit nicely, but it was too wide at the top and it didn't pull anything in. Crossing my fingers... I am new at all this xox

Babydoll

01-29-2007, 10:40 PM

Have any of you ladies purchased from Cameo Intimates? I have a black six strap garter belt (with tummy-and-hip panels) that I adore from them.

Pandora Pitstop

02-03-2007, 09:30 AM

I like it as well as a waist cincher for daily wear (that type of garter belt is quite comfortable, in fact.) However, I personally prefer four suspenders; I usually don't have much trouble with keeping my seams neat (I think because I have fairly curvy legs and stockings just don't seem to move around much on me :))

A true traditionalist goes for 6 suspenders on each leg! ;-) This option was available on custom corsetry by BR Creation of San Francisco a few years back. Great corsetry, very high quality but now in retirement.

jitterbugdoll

02-03-2007, 09:38 AM

A true traditionalist goes for 6 suspenders on each leg! ;-)

Nah--most of my vintage foundation garments only have four suspenders, so I guess there is a style for everybody ;)

NicolettaRose

02-03-2007, 06:04 PM

What exactly is a waist cincher?

Pandora Pitstop

02-04-2007, 11:09 AM

Six on each leg would be a bit of overkill wouldn't it? I don't actually know if 6 was a legitimate style or just a special request by a customer - the photos I saw showed a pale blue satin corset with 6 straps on each leg also in pale blue ruched satin with frilly lace. It was very cute worn with Victorian underwear but not for me ;-)

On the question of what is a waist cincher - there are many many garments that fall into this category. Corsetry, girdles and high-wiasted garterbelts mostly. Some with light boning and some with stretchy elatics, or both. Some come with with lacing or hook & eye tape or a zipper or just pull on (roll on). The construction of the garment will be the factor in how much it will cinch you in, 1 to 4 inches. Boning and lacing will be the 4 inch shapers were a simple roll on elatic one will just offer a bit of tummy control with out much pulling in. I found the ladies at a website called Shape-U 123 were very helpful in finding out what suited your needs best. They stock all the favourites like Rago, Twillfit and Lady Marlene and some original garments as well.

BegintheBeguine

02-04-2007, 12:43 PM

Shape-U 123 is the best! The lady who runs it, Patricia, is the best! I got a Rago girdle from her cheaper than anyone, with free shipping and in a couple of days!

NicolettaRose

02-05-2007, 04:00 PM

What exactly is a waist cincher?

Ahh ok...thanks for explaining, I have never worn one of those.

jazzzbaby

02-05-2007, 04:12 PM

Shape-U 123 is the best! The lady who runs it, Patricia, is the best! I got a Rago girdle from her cheaper than anyone, with free shipping and in a couple of days!

Darn! I wish had I known about this place. It's good that I know about it now...thanks for the heads up!

Grnidwitch

02-07-2007, 07:32 AM

I've checked most of the threads so I don't repeat but didn't find anything close to what I am interested in finding out.

Ok, I was watching, of all things, Son of Dracula with Lon Chaney, Jr. the other morning and the leading ladies had the most gorgeous evening gowns on. Bias cut, very flowy. I paid alot of attention to them because I wanted to see if their garter clips showed through the fabric. Well, low and behold they didnt and the assumtion is they were wearing slips of some kind. Now my question is, why? I've asked my mom how they avoided the clips showing and she said that the clothes were not as close fitting back in the 40's so it wasnt' an issue. But, under a bias cut, jersey(?) evening gown? I wore stockings with a garter belt back in the 80's because stockings were still readily available and cheaper should a run occur in one. But under certain garments the clips showed, or at least I thought they did. I would enjoy wearing stockings again, but even with a slip the clips seem to stand out to me. Any opinions or comments?

jitterbugdoll

02-07-2007, 08:39 AM

Grnidwitch

02-07-2007, 09:31 AM

With certain panty girdles, the garters are tucked underneath the legs of the girdle, thus minimizing any bumps.

They did also sell Lastex-gartered "hold ups" in the 1930s, and as these were worn without garters, you wouldn't have to deal with other, more noticeable foundation garments.

I generally wear thicker vintage slips, which help to diminish the appearance of my foundation garments. They are always somewhat visible though, even underneath my a-line 40s dresses, but I don’t think that this is a negative thing, as it just shows you are a proper vintage lady. ;)

JBD,

I knew you'd have an answer. I never thought of the panty girdle. I'm more familiar with the open bottom type. That's what my mom wore. The clips showing isn't a negative, it just makes me alittle uncomfortable. I feel men are looking at me and thinking badly. It's just a "me" thing.

Thank you for your help. And may I say, you are just stunning.

jitterbugdoll

02-07-2007, 09:37 AM

I knew you'd have an answer. I never thought of the panty girdle. I'm more familiar with the open bottom type. That's what my mom wore. The clips showing isn't a negative, it just makes me alittle uncomfortable. I feel men are looking at me and thinking badly. It's just a "me" thing.

Glad I could help!

Panty girdles became more popular later on, though they were available in the 1940s and often worn by the 'young miss' crowd. In the instances of men noticing, they either don't realize what they are looking at (as so few women wear foundation garments on a regular basis anymore) or they find it appealing (though I've never had anyone say anything at all, let alone something inappropriate in regards to it, so I wouldn't worry too much.:))

Thank you for your help. And may I say, you are just stunning.

Thank you--you just made my day! :o

Raegan

02-16-2007, 10:38 PM

Wow, I haven't visited this place in a long time. Maybe I should budget some non-study time for a quick read here once in a while. There's been some good topics.

Anyway, I was looking at the Vintage Martini site and found this interesting little thing. http://www.vintagemartini.com/clothing/lingerie/pages/12159.html (I would post the pictures but I'm not quite sure how.) I figured someone here would know why these things had this particular design. They obviously must be panties of some sort, but why are they so bizarre? Anyone have any ideas?

LolitaHaze

02-16-2007, 10:41 PM

My guess is that it would be a sanitary belt... but I am probably WAY off.

Lady Day

02-16-2007, 10:42 PM

Looks like a menstruation harness (for lack of a better word). The pin holes in the description were prolly for holding the pad in place.

Ah the advances of modern feminine hygiene. :rolleyes:

LD

pigeon toe

02-16-2007, 11:39 PM

I agree. Cos if it's a "chaffer" (whatever that means...I'm guessing to prevent chub rub?), I have no idea why there's a crotch to it. And wouldn't long tap panties prevent chub rub anyway?

Shearer

02-16-2007, 11:45 PM

Wow, I was totally going to agree with Lady Day on that one... I know cloths used to be pinned in place on underwear/belts like she said.

Then I googled "chaffer" and found this link. (http://www.woodlandfarmsantiques.com/lingerie/LingerieNOV_06/LingerieUnderwear/index1.html)

It says it's c. 1950 and to prevent chafing between the thighs??? :confused: I dunno... if there's pin holes, I'm still leaning towards a sort of menstruation belt like the previous posters said.

Edit to add: pigeon toe beat me to it on the chub rub idea :)

RetroModelSari

02-16-2007, 11:58 PM

To me it looks like a tiny version of those weird pants that sumo-ringers wear lol Imagine your undress infront of your sweetheart and he sees that one lol :eek: :D

Lady Day

02-17-2007, 12:07 AM

I agree. Cos if it's a "chaffer" (whatever that means...I'm guessing to prevent chub rub?), I have no idea why there's a crotch to it. And wouldn't long tap panties prevent chub rub anyway?

Well its nice to know Im not the only one with this problem :rolleyes:

'Chub rub' lol

LD

Novella

02-17-2007, 03:47 AM

My vote is for chaffer rather than sanitary belt, unless it was a homemade one (even then, why all the fabric and the elastic around the thighs?). Mostly based on the ads and examples found here (http://www.mum.org/belts.htm).

LizzieMaine

02-17-2007, 05:28 AM

It could be both -- a sanitary belt and a chafe-protector. A very similar item appears among the other sani-gear in the Fall/Winter 1939-40 Sears catalog, with this description:

"Be Modern! Let Modesty Shields Serve Dual Purpose of Napkin-Holder and Brief!"

"Combined sanitary belt and pantie brief with "no chafe" feature. Rayon taffetta panel with dainty Alencon style lace. Narrow rayon elastic sides. Gum rubber crotch. Twill tape napkin tabs. Tearose color. Sizes, Small, Medium, Large. Each, 45 cents."

There are other variations on this style, but the common feature for a sanitary brief is the ever-so-comfy-I'm-sure gum rubber crotch panel. This one does look home made, so it may be that they left that out.

LaMedicine

02-17-2007, 06:29 AM

To me it looks like a tiny version of those weird pants that sumo-ringers wear lol
:offtopic: Those "weird pants" that sumo wrestlers wear are actually a very very long (around 6-8m/6.5-9yds long, 45cm/17" wide which is folded in half length-wise and then in half again) and thick loin cloth that is wound round and round (3 times) their lower body. :p
The ones worn by upper class wrestlers during the tournaments are made of silk satin while the ones used for practice are cotton.:rolleyes:
Yup, and I hear they chafe until you get used to it--as a matter of fact, one isn't considered fully initiated into the sumo world until the mawashi as they are called doesn't chafe any more.lol

Renee

02-17-2007, 07:12 AM

Anyway, I was looking at the Vintage Martini site and found this interesting little thing. http://www.vintagemartini.com/clothing/lingerie/pages/12159.html

My guess is a combo chafing/sanitary pad holder. Though it looks like it's on backwards in the photo you linked to ...

pigeon toe

02-17-2007, 08:22 AM

Well its nice to know Im not the only one with this problem :rolleyes:

'Chub rub' lol

LD

Hahah! My boyfriend gets chub rub more than I do, at least in the summer (he gets too lazy to do his wash often, so he ends up having to wear his tightey whiteys, hence the unprotected thighs!). I get "stocking squeaks". Whenever I wear stockings you can hear my thighs rubbing together! I hope it's not as loud as I think it is! ;)

ohairas

02-17-2007, 09:20 AM

Ha! In my opinion it's just for the chaffing. From fat experience, you have to have something with elastic or whatever to "hold it down"... long tap panties would just ride and bunch up.

When I was huge I had to wear bikershort type things to my thighs wouldn't rub together. I even tried to cut a pair of panty hose about knee length but they rode up too.

I'll never forget the line in Susan Powter's book about the day she lost enough weight that she realized her thighs weren't rubbing together anymore... Halleluiah!!!

BTW, while on the sanitary subject.... I was looking through my 1940 Sears cat. and saw they had tampons back then... I couldn't believe it!!! I thought they came out like in the 70s or something, lol!

Nikki

Lauren

02-17-2007, 09:40 AM

:offtopic: Tampons came out in the mid 30's I believe. I think I posted pictures on a thread around here somewhere of ads...

I think LizzieMaine is correct in what she wrote- what she describes sounds exactly like what it is

Raegan

02-18-2007, 10:49 AM

Wow, you guys know so much more about these things than me. Now that I read this, it makes sense when I look at it. It just looked so bizarre to me and I could not for the life of me figure out what it was supposed to be. Thanks girls!

r lush

02-19-2007, 01:59 AM

some very complicated undies thats for sure. I would have a heck of a time getting in and out of a strapy little number like that!

Elaina

02-19-2007, 02:06 AM

Can I point out that with the type of material used in these, they probably weren't an every day kind of thing.

Look at the bias evening gowns. How were you supposed to wear panties in those things? This would do very nicely to avoid not only "chub rub" but also panty lines.

Renee

02-23-2007, 07:22 AM

I'm wondering if some of you who wear shapewear/girdles daily could share what you wear?

I currently own two Rago long leg high-rise girdles, the 6209 and 6207. They're wonderful for what I wanted them for - good shaping under slim dresses that also allow me to wear stockings - but they're not very bathroom friendly. I'd like something that is good for daily use, but that also doesn't require intensive advance planning just to visit the loo. :o

I've been looking, and am just not sure what to get. I looked at a Rago waist cincher, but wonder if something like this shows through clothing? I wear slips under my dresses, and half slips under skirts, but a waist cincher seems like it would show through my tops.

Do you wear girdles/shapewear with slacks?

I'd appreciate any help you can provide. Thanks!

jitterbugdoll

02-23-2007, 07:32 AM

I wear a lot of vintage girdles; my favorite style is the knit variety, as these tend to be quite firm, yet are still very comfortable. For modern foundation garments, I like Rago's corsolet, and I also have one of their open bottom girdles too; both styles are comfortable and easy to wear. Under pants I wear a panty girdle, or something like Spanx, which is nice as this is a seamless option for wear under lighter weight fabrics. I have never had a problem with a waist cincher creating obvious lines under any garments; to a certain extent, all foundation garments show slightly, but under a good slip this is minimized. I do have two waist cinchers; one by Rago and the other my Lady Marlene, and recommend both brands.

GoldLeaf

02-23-2007, 08:03 AM

I am clueless about slips, so I just did a quick search, and found this thread about them http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?t=13275

I am going to read it and educate myself, I thought it may pertain to this thread as well :)

JBD, you have mentioned "thick" slips a few times. What are they made of? Most I have seen are very thin.

LizzieMaine

02-23-2007, 08:10 AM

The workhorses of my underwardrobe are Ragos -- I've got a high-waisted panty girdle I wear when I know I'll have to carry heavy film cans at work (I have bad sciatica, and need the back support), and an open-bottom that I wear most of the rest of the time. On days when I know I won't be doing any lifting I go with a couple of softer panty girdles from Sears -- they give me a little bit of support and hold up my stockings, but aren't as rigid as the Ragos.

A couple of vintage girdles that I like a lot are the Playtex "Double Diamonds" style from the early 60s -- I have one of these that's the firmest girdle I've ever worn, and when my back's really acting up it's a godsend -- and a Bien Jolie zipper-entry from the late '40s. This one's almost a little *too* rigid, but it gives me plenty of support if I'm going to be doing something like driving for a long distance.

I never have trouble with show-thru --I always wear a full slip, either nylon or cotton, so there's no problems there.

jitterbugdoll

02-23-2007, 08:27 AM

JBD, you have mentioned "thick" slips a few times. What are they made of? Most I have seen are very thin.

My favorite is a medium-weight nylon slip from the 1950s--it is a nude color that is great under almost anything, and thick enough that if I am wearing a black foundation garment, it doesn't show through. I also have a number of silk crepe and rayon taffeta slips from the 40s that work very well.

Fleur De Guerre

02-23-2007, 09:00 AM

I'm wondering if some of you who wear shapewear/girdles daily could share what you wear?

I currently own two Rago long leg high-rise girdles, the 6209 and 6207. They're wonderful for what I wanted them for - good shaping under slim dresses that also allow me to wear stockings - but they're not very bathroom friendly. I'd like something that is good for daily use, but that also doesn't require intensive advance planning just to visit the loo. :o

I recently bought my first girdle and was actually wondering how the heck you are supposed to go to the loo wearing it! I didn't need to go when I wore it but was assuming I'd need to unhook my stockings if I needed to!

I also seemed to have an unfortunate problem with thigh squidge just below where it stopped...what on earth can I do about that, apart from liposuction of course! lol

CanadaDoll

02-23-2007, 09:04 AM

I found (of all places) that The Bay (department store not ebay) had a wide selection of shapewear, and my first girdle is from there(long line, goes from just under my bust, to midway on my hips, great support, and no name brand), it is very comfortable, but as I haven't tried anything else I can't say it's the MOST comfortable or anything. If you have a Bay store, or Sears try checking there, you can try various designs and what not, and they're usually very decently priced.:)

I've heard good things about Rago from sources outside the Lounge, so I don't think you'll have any trouble with their products, I'm going to give them a try when I'm in the market for new lingerie, but I just got new stuff last week so I need to be good.
Good luck with your shopping, I hope you find something that works for you!:)

jitterbugdoll

02-23-2007, 09:07 AM

I recently bought my first girdle and was actually wondering how the heck you are supposed to go to the loo wearing it! I didn't need to go when I wore it but was assuming I'd need to unhook my stockings if I needed to!

I also seemed to have an unfortunate problem with thigh squidge just below where it stopped...what on earth can I do about that, apart from liposuction of course! lol

It depends on the type of girdle you are wearing; a panty girdle is fairly self-explanatory in this situation, and an open bottom girdle doesn't actually have to be unhooked and rolled up--just make sure to wear your panties over the girdle, instead of under it.

As for the 'thigh squidge' issue (great way to describe it, BTW :)), you should either try a different style, or a slightly larger size. Certain styles are more likely to cause this issue than others; for example, a brief panty girdle versus a longline panty girdle.

LadyDeWinter

02-23-2007, 09:48 AM

Fleur de Guerre, I always wear french knickers and I wear them over the girdle. So there is no problem to go to the loo. :)

NicolettaRose

02-23-2007, 12:17 PM

I have a lot of vintage clothing, but lack vintage lingerie. What are good some vintage lingerie basics? The majority my everyday wear of my clothing is from the 1930's and some from the 1940's. I have a lot of 1920's that I wear less frequently.

The only thing I am not interested is girdles/shape wear, but some nice basic lingerie recommendations would be appreciated.

Miss Neecerie

02-23-2007, 12:22 PM

NicolettaRose

02-23-2007, 12:25 PM

I have seen this thread, it was mostly concern woolen lingerie, which I can't wear because I am allergic to wool.

Miss Neecerie

02-23-2007, 12:28 PM

I have seen this thread, it was mostly concern woolen lingerie, which I can't wear because I am allergic to wool.

If I can make a small suggestion for everyone, instead of starting a whole new thread, add to one that is similar.

It will bring it to the top of everyone's "new posts' and still get you the answers you want, but not clutter the Lounge for others who use the search function to quickly find things on a topical basis.

We have a lot of new folks, and a lot of topics are covered in multiple places, having comprehensive threads makes it easier to find things.

Thanks Ladies!

jitterbugdoll

02-23-2007, 12:44 PM

I'll add to Miss Neecerie's wise advice by saying that when searching for a relevant thread, you may need to vary your search terms, Using one blanket word, such as "lingerie," probably won‚Äôt bring up all of the threads that apply to the topic you are interested in.

Daisy Buchanan

02-23-2007, 01:03 PM

Please let me just add that if you do a search on The Lounges search engine it might not pull up everything you need. I have found that searching for topics on Google works great. Just put in the topic of what you are searching for and add the fedora lounge to the topic. This will reveal a lot of pertinent results.
If after you do your first search and you don't find what you are looking for, try different terms before starting a new thread. Like Miss Neecerie and Jitterbug have said, we have a ton of multiple threads. These multiple threads make it even more difficult to find what you are looking for.
If you find a thread about something that is not exactly what you are looking for but it is on the same topic, just add to it. It will make searching much easier.
No lady wants a messy Powder Room!!:)

LizzieMaine

02-23-2007, 01:14 PM

I'll second Jitterbugdoll's comment -- you'll probably have best luck with the search function with very specific terms. All sorts of lingerie topics have been discussed here, but rarely under any kind of an umbrella term. Searching for things like "slips," "tap pants," "knickers," "garter belts," etc. will bring you more specific sorts of results.

That said, I get the sense most of us don't wear actual vintage undies for everyday -- between the expense and the scarcity of originals and the wear and tear, a lot of us find it more practical to go with latter-day manufactured versions of traditional styles. We had a good thread this summer on sources for tap pants, for example -- http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?t=9006&highlight=tap+pants

Renee

02-23-2007, 02:18 PM

Thank you for all the replies! I've spent most of the evening researching girdles .... :p

Just one more quick question:

Do open bottom girdles "ride up" on your bottom when you're moving around a lot, or do they pretty much stay put?

And thank you, LizzieMaine, for mentioning that your girdles provide back support! I wanted to start wearing one daily because I find that my back bothers me so much less when I wear mine! I thought that perhaps it was just me, but it's nice to know that others find a girdle helpful in that aspect, too. :)

jitterbugdoll

02-23-2007, 02:22 PM

Do open bottom girdles "ride up" on your bottom when you're moving around a lot, or do they pretty much stay put?

No, they do not; just as they hold your stockings up, your stockings hold them down (however, unlike panty girdles, open bottom girdles cannot be worn without stockings, as they will slowly roll up as you move about. :))

Miss Neecerie

02-23-2007, 02:28 PM

No, they do not; just as they hold your stockings up, your stockings hold them down (however, unlike panty girdles, open bottom girdles cannot be worn without stockings, as they will slowly roll up as you move about. :))

Yea...I wear my panty-all in ones when I am wearing modern pantyhose (yea yea...sue me for not wearing stockings more ;) ).....and while its still semi contortion requireing to use the loo...its doable and it all stays in place...

Granted...I still need to get an open bottom...

Lady Day

02-23-2007, 04:38 PM

I wear more shapers than girdles, but I am looking for one with garters that I cam wear and go to the loo with. Im thinking a two piece (sort of a long line and a waist clincher) that I can button around the waist, and pull down to do my business.

Now to find such a garment...:rolleyes:

LD

Miss_Bella_Hell

02-23-2007, 06:44 PM

My fave is Rago 9051, I have it in two colors. I don't unhook it when I use the bathroom, I just pull it over to the side. I've been doing this for a few years, no problems! I guess I could unhook it but that's a pain.

pigeon toe

02-23-2007, 07:46 PM

I just bought a new girdle (a Rago open-bottom, not sure of the style number) and I adore it. It comes down much lower than my old girdle though, so I've got to get used to the feeling on my thighs a bit, but its somewhat a nice feeling in a bizarre way!

I still haven't worked myself up to wearing my panties over my girdle though, even though I bought a pair of cute tap panties from Target recently. I'm scared I'll pull an Art Frahm! Or even worse, someone will get a peek up my skirt! Those tap panties don't give too much coverage!

~landgirl~

02-23-2007, 10:17 PM

Golly, I haven't been on here since Christmas! Happy New Year to all!

Just catching up with the threads - about wearing knickers over a girdle, are we talking full girdles, where it ends low down on the thigh? I can't see it working but will try it out when I get dressed (it's only 6am!).

And I was wondering where you ladies shopped for knickers! I was after a selection of vintage looking ones, but don't really want to be wearing nylon gussets! Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks all! x

Lady Day

02-23-2007, 10:27 PM

Thank you all for saying this.

I didnt know how to go about it. Glad to know there is a good amount of consonous.

LD

pigeon toe

02-23-2007, 10:34 PM

Lately I've found some cute vintage-esque tap pants and nighties that could be used as slips in Target. The tap panties I bought are not quite like vintage ones, though if I didn't mind them being super short, I could wear them at waist level. They are meant to sit around your hips I think.

Have a poke around Target and other places like that. Sometimes its surprising the cute things you'll find, and for cheap too!

~landgirl~

02-23-2007, 10:36 PM

Where is Target? I am in the UK :o

Lady Day

02-23-2007, 10:43 PM

www.target.com

:D

LD

~landgirl~

02-23-2007, 10:44 PM

Ha! As simple as that! Thanks ladies ;)

Elaina

02-23-2007, 10:56 PM

I was genorously given a PDF of a 1920's school book on clothing that I make most of my combinations from. Took a little work...but I have a pretty pattern.

I'm not going to comment on the other parts of it, because I doubt anyone aside from Gok would understand all the problems I have associated with it. The 20's combinations work well, and I can use them as nightclothes when away from the house.

Daisy Buchanan

02-23-2007, 10:57 PM

Fleur de Guerre, I always wear french knickers and I wear them over the girdle. So there is no problem to go to the loo. :)

This is exactly what I do, french knickers or as we call them in the states tap panties. Just wear them over whatever foundation garment you are wearing. They are also really comfortable.
I have both Lady Marlene and Rago, but I must admit I like the Rago. For me they are a little more comfortable. I have their corsolet, waist cincher, and a few other things from them that I can't even name but they are really powerful!!:) I've never had any problems with any foundations showing through my clothes.
I must admit I have some vintage corsets and in comparison to the modern ones they are thicker, and I just notice them more when I'm wearing them. Although, when it comes to the corsets, I can lace the vintage ones much tighter than the modern ones, so I get more slimming power from them. Although the laces on them aren't as attractive, they seem to be much sturdier. Golly, there are so many options out there, it's really a trial and error situation. One day you'll be wearing a certain combination of foundations and you won't notice any of it, that's when you know you've got the right one for you. I was very surprised that the most comfortable undergarment I own is a handmade long line bra from the 50's. It's more comfortable than any modern bra I own and it gives me a nice silhouette.
Remember, what might be comfortable for one person, may not be comfortable for you.
I wish you luck in your pursuit!!:)

Daisy Buchanan

02-23-2007, 11:10 PM

I have a few pairs of taps from Target. You're right, they work better if you wear them at your waist, unless you don't mind them short.
Another great place to get them is French Knickers (http://www.frenchknickers.com/index.asp). They have a very pretty selection and you can get matching cami's with most all of them.
Say it with Knickers is another store that has some great taps. I won't put the site up, because I'm not sure if it has some inappropriate pics, but it you do a search by this store name, it should come right up.
A google search for "french knickers" reveals a lot. Try it if you're in need of them.

Fleur De Guerre

02-24-2007, 02:26 AM

Fleur De Guerre

02-24-2007, 02:27 AM

Thank you all for saying this.

I didnt know how to go about it. Glad to know there is a good amount of consonous.

LD

A good amount indeed ;)

LizzieMaine

02-24-2007, 02:57 AM

And I was wondering where you ladies shopped for knickers! I was after a selection of vintage looking ones, but don't really want to be wearing nylon gussets! Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks all! x

Welcome back Landgirl! There's a whole lotta info here:
http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?t=9006&highlight=tap+pants

~landgirl~

02-24-2007, 05:50 AM

Thanks for the Welcome Back!

I just checked the thread and I shall investigate 'Slenderella' immediately! :)

Miss_Bella_Hell

02-24-2007, 08:34 AM

Thanks ladies. I think I need to get some tap pants, now if only I could find a nice repro company! I usually wear :eek: g strings for the non VPL factor, so that would hardly work over a girdle! Might as well not bother in that case! lol

I'm a g-string wearer too, I wear them under my girdles and use the "pull to the side" technique when wearing them so I don't have to take off my girdle when I have to go! lol

NicolettaRose

02-25-2007, 10:19 AM

Can someone suggest some good vintage lingeie basics? I want to start buying a few nice pieces.

jitterbugdoll

02-25-2007, 06:09 PM

Can someone suggest some good vintage lingeie basics? I want to start buying a few nice pieces.

There isn't much difference in what was worn then versus what is worn now, just differences in desired figure types (i.e., full, ‘pointy’ busts in the 1950s, versus boyish, flattened busts in the 1920s.) If you peruse the various threads here you will see plenty of mentions of the different types of undergarments--bras, merry widows, waist cinchers, garter belts, girdles, step-ins, stockings, etc. Again, what you choose is a matter of personal preference based on what you find most comfortable and what works best for your figure. If you want to emulate a certain era, then search through vintage magazines to read ads and articles on what products were available, and for what reasons you would have worn them, to help you make your decision. And again, lingerie is another area in which modern may be the best way to go. Vintage underpinnings were often made with a large content of rubber, and this fabric loses its shape and function over time, often at inopportune moments.

Pandora Pitstop

02-26-2007, 06:37 AM

I blame Dr Jaeger and his Liberty Bodices!

Decobelle

02-26-2007, 12:56 PM

No, they do not; just as they hold your stockings up, your stockings hold them down (however, unlike panty girdles, open bottom girdles cannot be worn without stockings, as they will slowly roll up as you move about. :))

I did not know this when I was in my late teens. I had a *Peter Pan* open bottom girdle from the 50s that I wore, w/o stockings, to a Stray Cats concert (from a thrift store; it looked like it was made for a 10 year old boy on the hanger, but it could really stretch). Not long into the evening it was riding high, somewhere between my waist & bust. :o If only the FL had been around then! I'm so grateful for all the advice we get here!

jitterbugdoll

02-26-2007, 01:38 PM

I did not know this when I was in my late teens. I had a *Peter Pan* open bottom girdle from the 50s that I wore, w/o stockings, to a Stray Cats concert (from a thrift store; it looked like it was made for a 10 year old boy on the hanger, but it could really stretch). Not long into the evening it was riding high, somewhere between my waist & bust. If only the FL had been around then! I'm so grateful for all the advice we get here!

I read a similar anecdote written by a woman who was a teen in the 1950s. Her mother bought her an open bottom girdle and fully fashioned stockings, and the girl was mortified because all of her classmates had the new seamless stockings. So, at school she took her stockings off, and then had to suffer the rest of the day with her girdle creeping up while she was sitting at her desk--and of course she could do nothing about it until class was out. lol

Thanks ladies. I think I need to get some tap pants, now if only I could find a nice repro company! I usually wear g strings for the non VPL factor, so that would hardly work over a girdle! Might as well not bother in that case!

I wear tap pants or boy shorts over my open bottom girdles, which works fine as well. I find this to be more comfortable then a g-string worn under a girdle.

KittyT

03-09-2007, 10:54 AM

you can find similar pinup panties from Secrets in Lace, Alexis4u.com and Stockingshowcase.com.

Lady Day

04-03-2007, 10:13 AM

Girdles, corsets, and underpinnings.

All here.

LD

Kimberly

04-03-2007, 11:29 AM

Okay, I have read through this entire thread and boy is it long! :D

There is a ton of great stuff in here but I still have a question. I have a 27 inch waist and would like to to get it to a 26 so I can have my (36-26-36) measurements. Should I buy a size 26 cincher or a 27?

Thanks and great thread. :eusa_clap

Fleur De Guerre

04-03-2007, 12:23 PM

Buy a 26 inch one! I have a 27 inch waist and a 27-28 inch cincher that was supposed to pull me in, but it doesn't. :(

Especially get the 26 as you have 36 hips.

Kimberly

04-03-2007, 12:34 PM

Buy a 26 inch one! I have a 27 inch waist and a 27-28 inch cincher that was supposed to pull me in, but it doesn't. :(

Especially get the 26 as you have 36 hips.

Thanks and I feel your pain! I too have a size 27 girdle and it does nothing for me and I thought it was because it was vintage. :(

I will go with the 26! I can't wait to get one. I just want a cincher though for the summer. I don't wear stockings in the summer so don't need the whole girdle/garter thing right now. There are a bunch of size 26 dresses and skirts I own that fit me allright but are very tight. This may be just what I need to be able to finally wear them somewhat comfortably. lol

Sunny

04-03-2007, 01:00 PM

Well now, I have a question, too, but it's more on recommendations. I read all the way back through the thread :eusa_clap and found a lot of good information especially on corsets and waist cinchers. My needs aren't quite in that direction, though.

I'm pretty happy with my dimensions. Not a perfect hourglass, but 36(ish)-29-39(ish) without shapewear isn't bad, and at 5'9" my lack of proportion isn't quite as obvious. My shoulders are wide enough, too. The main thing I need is a little bit of redistribution and stabilizing. When I put on weight (and I've got 5-10 lbs more than I want right now) it's in my hips, and it's in a rather awkward place, making me look wide and flat from the back. A girdle helps immensely just by smoothing and smushing things gently into the right place. My current one, from the 1960s, is great for this.

However, it doesn't do much for my waist. It's quite possible it's too small. Point is, it tends to cut in at my waist and create belly flab. And while I have a tiny bit of a tummy below my belly button, I have nothing above - except when I wear the girdle. And when I pull it up to or just past its proper position, I get the terrible Waistband Roll. Ow!! It's usually fine when I'm standing, but I spend a good part of the day sitting and it's tough to keep it from rolling. Would a high-waist one be best for me, then? I saw a lovely high-waist one on ebay this morning that would've been perfect, but it was missing part of two garters and was too small anyway.

So I need a girdle that will shape my hips and waist, keeping them firm and stable, but not necessarily shaping anything. At this point, I'm wanting a high waist so I can be confident that there's no tummy bulge and no waistband roll. I'm okay with not getting true vintage, although I'd prefer it; it seems that Rago is highly recommended. What model works best for you ladies, or what do you recommend?

In general, if you're searching for a vintage girdle, what size or unstretched measurements do you usually look for in comparision to your actual measurements?

Lady Day

04-03-2007, 01:04 PM

I find a long line bra and a paints girdle work great for more precise shaping.

LD

KittyT

04-03-2007, 01:14 PM

However, it doesn't do much for my waist. It's quite possible it's too small. Point is, it tends to cut in at my waist and create belly flab. And while I have a tiny bit of a tummy below my belly button, I have nothing above - except when I wear the girdle. And when I pull it up to or just past its proper position, I get the terrible Waistband Roll. Ow!! It's usually fine when I'm standing, but I spend a good part of the day sitting and it's tough to keep it from rolling. Would a high-waist one be best for me, then? I saw a lovely high-waist one on ebay this morning that would've been perfect, but it was missing part of two garters and was too small anyway.

So I need a girdle that will shape my hips and waist, keeping them firm and stable, but not necessarily shaping anything. At this point, I'm wanting a high waist so I can be confident that there's no tummy bulge and no waistband roll. I'm okay with not getting true vintage, although I'd prefer it; it seems that Rago is highly recommended. What model works best for you ladies, or what do you recommend?

i have a Rago high waist girdle (the Lacette 6107) and i hate hate HATE it. it has boning in the sides which just adds bulk. the main problem i have with this girdle though is that then it just creates a roll between the top of the girdle and the bottom of my bra.

i would recommend a body briefer (Miss Bella Hell swears by the Rago Shapette 9051) or the Rago corselette, depending on whether or not you want a panty-leg or an open bottomed girdle.

Sunny

04-03-2007, 01:52 PM

Hmm... I'd rather have an open-bottom girdle.

Lady Day

04-03-2007, 03:18 PM

My big concern is being able to use the pottie without having to completely undress :o

LD

Pink Dahlia

04-03-2007, 07:36 PM

KittyT

04-03-2007, 07:46 PM

Hmm... I'd rather have an open-bottom girdle.

my Rago corselette just arrived in the mail today. it is very nice (and pretty)! it doesn't come as far down over my hips as i had assumed, but it still comes down further than the body briefers, and i like that extra hip coverage/shaping. the control bands at the waist do a good job of defining my waist! the cups are a bit pointier than i'd assumed so i don't fill them out completely, but with a pair of bullet bra falsies, they give a very nice vintage silhouette!

obviously, the advantage of the body briefers is that using the ladies room is easier (personally i don't mind having to unhook my stockings) because of the hooks at the crotch, and you can wear them without stockings.

in any case, i think i'll be much happier with this item than my regular open bottom girdles, as i'll have hip to bust shaping and no girdle roll.

Lady Day

04-03-2007, 08:55 PM

I want to buy a bullet bra.

I have been wearing a 36B bra for years. Recently I was measured at Frederick's and they put me in a 36A. I have two 36A bras and they give me nice little cleavage. They fit fine but so do my old bras.

The problem: I searched around and couldn't for the life of me couldn't find a 36A bullet bra.

So what should I do?

Should I buy a 36B? My fear is that it won't fit.

Check the return policy of the item, buy it and if it does not fit, return it. Other wise, I wouldn't but it. :)

LD

LizzieMaine

04-04-2007, 04:47 AM

I'm also a 36A (and on the small side of that, alas), and the only luck I've ever had finding vintage-style bras is on eBay. They do show up from time to time, and they actually run a bit less expensive than the more common sizes! Thank heavens for small blessings.

Sunny

04-04-2007, 05:22 AM

my Rago corselette just arrived in the mail today. it is very nice (and pretty)! it doesn't come as far down over my hips as i had assumed, but it still comes down further than the body briefers, and i like that extra hip coverage/shaping. the control bands at the waist do a good job of defining my waist! the cups are a bit pointier than i'd assumed so i don't fill them out completely, but with a pair of bullet bra falsies, they give a very nice vintage silhouette!

obviously, the advantage of the body briefers is that using the ladies room is easier (personally i don't mind having to unhook my stockings) because of the hooks at the crotch, and you can wear them without stockings.

in any case, i think i'll be much happier with this item than my regular open bottom girdles, as i'll have hip to bust shaping and no girdle roll.

Interesting! I think I'm going to have to do some more shopping. :D

Rosie

04-04-2007, 05:31 AM

I want to buy a bullet bra.

I have been wearing a 36B bra for years. Recently I was measured at Frederick's and they put me in a 36A. I have two 36A bras and they give me nice little cleavage. They fit fine but so do my old bras.

The problem: I searched around and couldn't for the life of me couldn't find a 36A bullet bra.

So what should I do?

Should I buy a 36B? My fear is that it won't fit.

I find that different brands run just a bit differnt in sizing.

Normally, I am a 42 DD however, there are times when a 42 just won't do and I HAVE to get a 44 DD then other times, especially with bras made for bigger women, I HAVE to get a 40 DDD. Try different brands, see which one you like the best and buy away!

Fleur De Guerre

04-04-2007, 05:49 AM

PD you could always get a 36B and some bullet falsies from www.mybabyjo.com!

Fleur De Guerre

04-04-2007, 05:54 AM

But I believe you can buy bullet bras in 36A from What Katie Did.

Pink Dahlia

04-04-2007, 04:05 PM

Thanks Fleur!

pigeon toe

04-06-2007, 11:33 PM

Okay, I have a question for you ladies! I purchased the Rago open-bottom girdle a couple of months ago, and love it, except for one major problem.

It comes down past my hips onto the tops of my thighs, and is pretty tight, so it smashes them together. I have pretty big thighs, but never have chub rub in other circumstances. Anyway, having my thighs literally SMASHED together all day, rubbing against each other and getting no air circulation in that region pretty much sucks!

Does anyone else have this problem? I really want a Rago corselette, but I'm kind of afraid to buy it for fear of the same problem.

As another option, I was thinking of getting a Rago waist cincher. Have any of you ladies tried this? Is it comfy and does it work well?

Thanks in advance!

Lady Day

04-07-2007, 01:06 AM

A nice shaper (basically skin tonned bikershorts) does the trick for me with that problem. :o

LD

Annie_F

04-07-2007, 02:11 AM

Hello

I'm interested to see so many people here saying "wow, wonderful" for heavy weight girdles and corsets. My memories of the 60s and early 70s are that they can be absolute hell after a few hours. I can't be alone?

Anybody who has worn a firm girdle for some time knows the meaning of the Hollywood clich?© "I'm just going to slip into something loose".

Annie

Elaina

04-07-2007, 02:33 AM

No, I have to wear a corset for a spinal problem and there are many times I go lie down or take a bath just to get out of it. Forget ever eating and feeling full, by the time I've cooked, I'm done. Unless I starve myself the day before.

Fleur De Guerre

04-07-2007, 02:34 AM

PT I have a Rago cincher, and it is good, except mine is too big! The cinching is minimal so when you add the bulk of it, my measurements are exactly the same, thus defeating the point of wearing it! My waist is a 27 and I bought the 28, but I have since tried on the 26 and am going to get one of those instead. So make sure you get the right size!

As to girldes, well I have a similar problem, only it doesn't squish my thighs together but it does squidge them out the bottom, so I have a noticeable ring of flab underneath. Again defeating the point as I wanted to wear it under pencil skirts. I think in this case I might need to get a larger one! I have given up wearing it in favour of a pair of cycling shorts type shaper like LD mentioned above. They give a wonderful shape, only problem - don't feel very sexy in them!!

Annie_F, I think the girdles of today can be very firm, but also the material isn't quite as heavy [huh] ? I'll let someone more knowledgeable answer that!

LizzieMaine

04-07-2007, 03:54 AM

I think the fabric really does make a lot of difference in the comfort level -- the firmest girdle I have is a Bien Jolie open-bottom from the late '40s, made of heavy, rigid cotton with lastex insert panels for stretch and heavy boning. I only wear this when my sciatica is intolerable, and usually by the end of the day the discomfort from the girdle makes me forget all about my back pain. Which is kind of a roundabout way of accomplishing the purpose, but hey...

I have no discomfort at all when it comes to my Ragos, and can even do heavy physical work while wearing one -- in fact, I feel like a sagging heap of sag when I'm *not* wearing one!

pigeon toe

04-07-2007, 11:01 AM

That was my fear about the cincher, Fleur! That's the way my cincher from Macy's is.

LD and Fleur, or anyone else for that matter, do you have any of the Rago panty girdles? I want something that has suspender clips because I only use a girdle when I want to wear stockings. The main problem for me is not necessarily the chub rub, but the fact that because my thighs are squished together there is no air circulation! Not fun! So I'm afraid the longer panty girdles, though they might cure the chub rub, will still be hot and uncomfortable.

I still want a corselette though! They are just too cute, especially dyed pink!

Lady Day

04-07-2007, 11:05 AM

Have you ever tried a panty girdle and a long line bra?

LD

jitterbugdoll

04-07-2007, 11:20 AM

But I believe you can buy bullet bras in 36A from What Katie Did.

Vicki's Nylons sells them in that size as well, and they happed to be located in Arizona. The Web site is rather...interesting, but they ship quicky and I have always been pleased with the customer service. :)

pigeon toe

04-07-2007, 11:37 AM

Have you ever tried a panty girdle and a long line bra?

LD

Nope, I haven't tried either yet! I don't have any squishing at the top of my girdle, so I don't really need a long line bra. I just want a corselette cos they are cute! I probably shouldn't buy it just for that reason though!

Lady Day

04-07-2007, 01:59 PM

I meant instead of your girdle. That way you can have the protection of the panties from your legs rubbing together (and many come with barters built in), and still have the hold of a girdle from the long line.

Thats my combo of choice, that way I can just pill down the panties and go to the ladies without undressing :)

LD

KittyT

04-07-2007, 04:28 PM

together there is no air circulation! Not fun! So I'm afraid the longer panty girdles, though they might cure the chub rub, will still be hot and uncomfortable.

i have the Rago 6195 panty brief girdle and i LOVE it. i wear it almost every day. i want one in every color.

pigeon toe

04-07-2007, 06:02 PM

Thanks for the suggestions! I think I'll try out the Rago 619 and a longline bra see how it goes! Cross your fingers for me!

Etienne

05-09-2007, 11:54 AM

KittyT

05-09-2007, 12:07 PM

Ladies, I REALLY could use some direction here! Here's what I'm looking for:

An "all-in-one", long-leg foundation for a full-figure woman, with underwire in the bra section, garters, in a size 36 DD. I can't seem to find this anywhere. I wrote down an exhaustive list of references I've seen you all mention and still couldn't locate one. Any ideas?? My second choice would be the same garment but with an OB girdle, not a long-leg....Thanks so much!

Don't rule out something without an underwire! A lot of the bodybriefers, long-leg briefers and corselette girdles (especially the Rago ones) offer a lot of support without needing a wire. I'd order a Rago from Girdlebound and then return it if you decide it won't work for you.

Miss_Bella_Hell

05-09-2007, 12:13 PM

Don't rule out something without an underwire! A lot of the bodybriefers, long-leg briefers and corselette girdles (especially the Rago ones) offer a lot of support without needing a wire. I'd order a Rago from Girdlebound and then return it if you decide it won't work for you.

I second this motion. I really love the Rago shapers. Have you tried a full-body Rago shaper? You order by cup size and they really are quite supportive. Mine gives me plenty of support, and I need it!

RedHotRidinHood

05-09-2007, 12:30 PM

Just wondering-who carries Rago items; like what stores? I hate to order things and then have them arrive and not fit. I guess I am just impatient and old-fashioned-I like to buy things in person, not off the internet. ;)

texasgirl

05-09-2007, 12:38 PM

RedHotRidinHood

05-09-2007, 12:58 PM

KittyT

05-09-2007, 01:02 PM

Yes, you can contact them. However, the one time I contacted them, it took them about 3 weeks to get back to me... and on my own I found other stores that carried their items that they hadn't mentioned to me. Just sayin'...

Lady Day

05-09-2007, 01:03 PM

Ladies, I REALLY could use some direction here! Here's what I'm looking for:

An "all-in-one", long-leg foundation for a full-figure woman, with underwire in the bra section, garters, in a size 36 DD. I can't seem to find this anywhere. I wrote down an exhaustive list of references I've seen you all mention and still couldn't locate one. Any ideas?? My second choice would be the same garment but with an OB girdle, not a long-leg....Thanks so much!

www.secretsinlace.com ;)

They have an entire 'curvy wwoman' section, some of which I so want to pick up. They do have a few all in ones so check them out.

LD

KittyT

05-09-2007, 01:51 PM

Just a note: the shapewear listed at Secrets in Lace is all Rago, and is available elsewhere at cheaper prices.

positivelypinup

05-09-2007, 02:51 PM

what do you ladies think about the open bottom Corselette? Is it comfortable and can you move in it? I've been wanting to get one for a little while.

Sweet Polly Purebred

05-09-2007, 03:19 PM

what do you ladies think about the open bottom Corselette? Is it comfortable and can you move in it? I've been wanting to get one for a little while.

My experience with a Katie Did Open Bottom: I'm 5'5" with a full (a.k.a. plump) hourglass figure so mine fit wonderfully through the bust and hips but was too long in the torso and over the thighs which made it try to ride up while walking. I found myself fiddling with it a lot because I was aware of it all of the time. I don't wear them often, so my advice might not be very useful, but if you can get an under bust to hem measurement before you order one, do.

On the other hand, I feel sexy as hell wearing it ;)

BonnieJean

05-09-2007, 03:20 PM

You can contact them and they will email you the stores in your area- although the store they sent me is in South Dallas, not a very good area to go to alone!

http://www.ragoshapewear.com/html/retailstore.shtml

Also, be aware that although there may be stores in your area that carry Rago products, sometimes they only carry one or two styles and not all the lines. I found this out myself when I was recommended a certain department store. They didn't carry the item I was looking for, although the sales clerk offered to order it for me. Duh, I could of done that myself. :eusa_doh:
I'm not very patient either, but I have found ordering my Rago products online and making sure the company selling them has a very good return policy has worked out well.

KittyT

05-09-2007, 07:16 PM

My experience with a Katie Did Open Bottom: I'm 5'5" with a full (a.k.a. plump) hourglass figure so mine fit wonderfully through the bust and hips but was too long in the torso and over the thighs which made it try to ride up while walking. I found myself fiddling with it a lot because I was aware of it all of the time. I don't wear them often, so my advice might not be very useful, but if you can get an under bust to hem measurement before you order one, do.

the corselettes sold by Katie Did are Rago. I also have the Rago corselette - I'm 5'3" and on me, it fits great through the waist, but doesn't come as far down over the hips as I'd like. If I pull it down to the length I want, the cups on it sit way too low. I do like wearing it and love the shape it gives me, but in order for it to fit well in the cups, I have to use bullet bra falsies. The cups just aren't cut full at the top.

Be aware that you will need to wear FF stockings in order for it to stay in place. With no stockings or stretch stockings, it will start to ride up, like any open bottomed girdle.

Shearer

05-09-2007, 07:51 PM

the corselettes sold by Katie Did are Rago. I also have the Rago corselette - I'm 5'3" and on me, it fits great through the waist, but doesn't come as far down over the hips as I'd like. If I pull it down to the length I want, the cups on it sit way too low. I do like wearing it and love the shape it gives me, but in order for it to fit well in the cups, I have to use bullet bra falsies. The cups just aren't cut full at the top.

Be aware that you will need to wear FF stockings in order for it to stay in place. With no stockings or stretch stockings, it will start to ride up, like any open bottomed girdle.

Yeah, ya know the cups on the Ragos always seemed wonky to me, too. I'm not sure what that's about. It seems to like... smoosh the top of my boobs or something :eusa_doh:

Oh, noes! Not the quadro-boob :eek: lol

BegintheBeguine

05-09-2007, 07:54 PM

lol lol Now we know what fad will come after muffin tops go stale!

Sunny

05-10-2007, 07:13 AM

lol lol Now we know what fad will come after muffin tops go stale!

Oh, that's a groaner! :eusa_doh: lol

Shearer

05-10-2007, 08:21 AM

Oh, that's a groaner! :eusa_doh: lol

Oh, but it made me laugh lol

BegintheBeguine

05-10-2007, 08:39 AM

I'm so dorky I didn't even realize I'd made a pun. (I was going to type bad pun but that's redundant.) Sorry, gals!
Corselettes are always too short in the top area, too, I don't get it. Now I am loving my new Rago waistcincher Style 21.

Etienne

05-10-2007, 08:57 AM

Sweet Polly Purebred

05-10-2007, 09:02 AM

Snares Of Venus (http://www.snaresofvenus.com/Information/specialservices.htm) does custom work. Might try them ..

KittyT

05-10-2007, 09:04 AM

Again, you may be in the habit of wearing underwires currently, but I would try a Rago foundation without them before assuming that you HAVE to have underwires and blowing the money on a custom foundation garment. You might be surprised.

Etienne

05-10-2007, 10:40 AM

I hear what you're saying, Kitty T., but I guess I'm going from experience...When I went to Secrets In Lace and looked at the section for Curvy Women, I noticed that the model (who is lots larger than I am up top and all around) looked more supported in the one shaper that had the underwires (and then some!) in the bra top. At least, it's more the way I would like the garment to look. I related immediately to that! But since I had a reduction years ago, my chest is not as "heavy" as it was, and maybe I still think of it as such. As long as I could return an item if it didn't fit, I might give it a go...I guess I'm thinking that I don't have really high hopes...but perhaps I'll take a leap of faith! Thanks for your input, and to all you have made suggestions!

KittyT

05-10-2007, 10:47 AM

Etienne

05-10-2007, 06:48 PM

Okay, so I just checked and now I don't know WHERE I saw the picture I am referring to...I think I'm losing my %&%$# mind!!! I will search for it again and let you know.

goldwyn girl

05-10-2007, 07:37 PM

Elaina, I also suggest looking at one with out underwire. The construction of the bra area is very supportave.

ohairas

05-10-2007, 09:32 PM

Was doing a search on using duct tape for a bra, as a few friends have needed this info lately! I used duct tape in my first wedding, as did my maid of honor! Great support and cleavage, and a reducer if need be!
Anyhoo.. here's instructions for a duct tape corset!
http://www.geocities.com/clytaemnestra_28/ductapecorset1
Except I would use a t-shirt underneath, (one you don't mind cutting up), and then cut a good inch or so MORE off of the corset after cutting it so that when you lace it up it will fit extra snug.
Nikki

Etienne

05-10-2007, 10:52 PM

Remarkable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Who wudda thunk it???! Wow!

Etienne

05-10-2007, 11:01 PM

Well, Kitty T., I went back to SIL and I think the pix I had in my head was the strapless bra on the Curvy Woman site. ("Bella", maybe??) Anyway, the model looks much more shapely and contained, in my opinion, in the strapless bra with the underwires, than she does in the other bra options pictured. I realize that this is different than an all-in-one, and that the additional fabric and structure of the all-in-one might lend support and definition of its own. I think that in my MIND, I was seeing the strapless one I'm referring as the top part of an all-in-one; alas, it is not! Though that would be even better for me! Anyway, if I crank up the courage, I'll give a non-wire a whirl and return it if it doesn't work.

pretty faythe

05-10-2007, 11:18 PM

badleekitty

05-11-2007, 01:32 AM

Hello! I am new and I just wanted to say hello to all the dolls out there...Anyways I am so glad I found this site. It has alot of really good tips and ideas. I have been wanting a corset or a waist cincher for sometime. I am just tied to what would work best for me. I seem to have a problem in my tummy area I guess this is where I hold all of my fat. So I am looking to getting something that will help me have good tummy control when I wear my pretty dresses. I hate the fact that when I do wear them I have a pouch you can see. I guess it is from having my babies but I am really not happy with it. Do you have any ideas on what would work best??? I know the corset is more for sizing down and the waist cincher gives you that hourglass shape. But I would really like something to help me control the tummy and is great for everyday use. Any suggestions out there???

ohairas

05-11-2007, 07:00 AM

Hi Badlee and welcome!
I don't know much about the girdles and supports that the girls speak of here. I do have some *real* corsets but like you said, they're not for every day use. (At least not for me!)

I've been wearing a support that I bought at Walmart. It looks like biker shorts and comes up to my bra almost. It has hook and eyes down the front and some boning. I've been extremely pleased with it. I've just lost over 70 pounds and still have a "baby pooch" as well, and this has been perfect.

Might wanna start with that since it's cheap (under $20), and then get to learn about the other garments... which is what I'm trying to do! ;)

Nikki

Etienne

05-11-2007, 07:21 AM

:offtopic: Nikki, congrats on the weight loss! How did you do it?

KittyT

05-11-2007, 07:45 AM

happy with it. Do you have any ideas on what would work best??? I know the corset is more for sizing down and the waist cincher gives you that hourglass shape. But I would really like something to help me control the tummy and is great for everyday use. Any suggestions out there???

Badleekitty, welcome! Definitely read through this thread and do a search for threads with terms like "girdle", "cincher" and "foundation". There's a lot of info here already and I'm sure you'll find what you're looking for. A lot of the ladies here strongly recommend the Rago panty girdles and body briefers. You can find them at http://www.girdlebound.com and http://www.alexis4u.com, among many other places.

badleekitty

05-11-2007, 09:47 AM

Badleekitty, welcome! Definitely read through this thread and do a search for threads with terms like "girdle", "cincher" and "foundation". There's a lot of info here already and I'm sure you'll find what you're looking for. A lot of the ladies here strongly recommend the Rago panty girdles and body briefers. You can find them at http://www.girdlebound.com and http://www.alexis4u.com, among many other places.

Thanks! Sweetie your right I think I might have found something for I just ordered the waist cincher at whatkattiedid website. You gals talk so highly of that product so I wanted to give it a try. I wasn't sure on the size so I just ordered a 32". This is my waist when I suck in my stomach. Do you think I should have sized down or that will be good?? I know the waist cincher is not like a corset where you have to order 4 inches off your regular waist. What do you think???

badleekitty

05-11-2007, 09:50 AM

ohairas

05-12-2007, 11:24 AM

:offtopic: Nikki, congrats on the weight loss! How did you do it?
Thank you Etienne! Weight Watchers CORE plan baby! I LOVE it! I've lost over 60 pounds twice and core was far more easier than anything I've ever done.
Here's before and afters if you're interested! Feel free to PM me as well!
http://new.photos.yahoo.com/ohairas/album/576460762343348698
Nikki

Rosie

05-15-2007, 08:58 AM

Hi Ladies, any truth to the thought that when buying a strapless bra one should go a size down? Ex, noramlly wear a 42 DD, should go down to a 40 D for a strapless. Help desperately needed. Thanks!!

texasgirl

05-15-2007, 09:24 AM

I just bought a strapless bra recently for my wedding dress. I normally wear a 34FF, and I bought the strapless in the same 34FF. And it's super supportive! The lady at the bra store told me 90% of a bra's support should come from the band. So if you are wearing the correct size bra, it should be the same size. This is the bra I got, I only wear Fantasie because I am such a hard size to fit, but they are wonderful. And you can find them on ebay cheaper.

http://www.barenecessities.com/Fantasie-of-England-Smoothing-Strapless-Bra_product_FantasieofEngland4530_,search,.htm

GreyAndWhiteCat

05-15-2007, 09:44 AM

texasgirl:

Fantasie is great, most of my bras are from them. But you can also try Freya, the are actually the same company as Fantasie, so the sizes and support is the same :)

For fitting advise I think everybody should try http://www.bravissimo.com/bravissimo/, they are great! I shop all mye bras there, their service is better than the shop in town.

Miss Dottie

05-15-2007, 09:45 AM

Thank you Etienne! Weight Watchers CORE plan baby! I LOVE it! I've lost over 60 pounds twice and core was far more easier than anything I've ever done.
Here's before and afters if you're interested! Feel free to PM me as well!
http://new.photos.yahoo.com/ohairas/album/576460762343348698
Nikki

Wow Ohairas, you look amazing. A great inspiration, as I gained some of my weight back from the wedding. Man, it comes on fast. I like the idea of the core program tho'. Also, probably very good for people trying to cut out sugar too.

Thanks for the inspiration!

pretty faythe

05-18-2007, 12:04 AM

The decided measurement for girdles/foundation garments was 2 inches smaller than your waist correct? I had ordered/won one on the bay that was supposed to be 2 inches smaller and it is actually lose. I need to relist it now, so I was double checking on what the measurements were acutally supposed to be. I am ticked off now though. It was so purty. Up to the belly button, little past the thighs like shorts, with suspenders for stockings. :rage:

Sweet Polly Purebred

05-19-2007, 02:43 AM

Am I being daft? Did I miss a memo? Did What Katie Did stop selling their Corselettes etc?

And PS - Are there FF designed for "thicker" legs?

imoldfashioned

05-19-2007, 04:00 AM

Great job Nikki! I'm in the midst of my own weight loss odyssey so I how challenging it can be. Quite the inspiration, you are.

Etienne

05-19-2007, 09:55 AM

Nikki, I left my kuddos to you on your MySpace page! You have made an incredible transformation! Sincere congrats on your achievement:eusa_clap

Etienne

Fleur De Guerre

05-20-2007, 02:47 AM

Am I being daft? Did I miss a memo? Did What Katie Did stop selling their Corselettes etc?

Nope, they are still there, under Lingerie, Rago Salon.

Sweet Polly Purebred

05-20-2007, 03:10 AM

Oh my God, I'm a complete dumb@!% .. I knew they were there, I've ordered from them a few times .. the page wasn't fully loading .. doh!:eusa_doh: Thanks Fleur ..

ShrinkingViolet

05-20-2007, 03:48 AM

Waaah..:rage: Ladies, I've checked Secrets in Lace again AND Girdlebound again and no luck. I HAVE TO have underwire. Anyone else have any ideas?? Even something from another country?? To restate my quest: I need a 36 DD, long-leg, all-in-one with underwire and garters. I would prefer a front zip closure, for full-figure. I have a long torso, am 5'8" and wear a size 10 clothing. PLEASE, PLEASE let me know if you have any other thoughts...even custom made...

For people looking for a corselette with underwires, I just wanted to recommend the one from the Charnos Hourglass (http://www.undercoverexperience.co.uk/chahou.htm) line. It's sort of a modern take on a vintage style corselette so it doesn't do an awful lot of tucking in but it does some smoothing out nonetheless. I have it in the blush colour and it looks stunning and very vintage!

kimb

07-07-2007, 10:28 PM

goldwyn girl

07-08-2007, 07:16 AM

Oh kimb, you naughty girl, you're helping to spend my money. I love lingerie .

imoldfashioned

07-08-2007, 08:35 AM

Well, my beloved Rago shaper is officially too big for me--one of the few downsides of weight loss. I went to purchase another one and I noticed that Rago is discontinuing many of their styles. I'm a little worried about that--I hope the company is stable, they're my favorite shapewear manufacturer.

Of course, the upside of shrinking out of your shapewear is having an excuse to buy more lingerie! I'm staying pretty basic until I lose the last 20 pounds, hopefully by the end of the summer, then I'll go on a spending tear! I'd really like to get a nice underbust corset--they're expensive but I've wanted one forever. The links you girls have provided earlier in the thread have been really helpful, so thanks for that.

BegintheBeguine

07-08-2007, 09:15 AM

I just ordered a Crown 424 from this site for $19.99 (+ $3.50 S&H)!!! That's so cheap--usually they're like $30-$40. I also just found out you can get it in blue, red, or yellow for the same price in many sizes (too bad I found out too late, but white is okay and I'll probably be back). If you're into open bottom girdles with your stockings, you might want to take up this opportunity to buy one in a cool color.

They also have very good prices on their other shapewear, like panty girdles and long leg girdles and long line bras (both less than $20). And oddly enough, they sell old-fashioned sanitary napkins with the tabs and the belt... Yeah. Way before my time. :p

Anyhow, the best way to access all of their stuff is through the index because not everything is listed in their menu: http://yhst-82343397462395.stores.yahoo.net/ind.html
Thanks kimb! I like having a personal shopper. ;) I'm a Rago wearer (from www.shapeu.com) but I'll try the Crown in white, red, and blue. Too cute. :D The sanitary napkin and belt reminded me of what I was given in the birthing center 25 years ago. (Probably I still have the belt around somewhere, I tend not to throw things out if I think they will ever be useful.)
Ashley

10-22-2007, 05:42 AM

Hello Lovelies!

I've been lurking here for a few months and finally made the leap.
I have a question regarding my garter belt, within the first hour it had stretched out, it even rolled at one point. Now I find myself washing as soon as I take it off, being as a rest day doesn't do it much good. Is it too small or too large? Am I washing it improperly...just a hand wash? I ordered a waist cincher from the same company, Rago and bought the next size down just as a precaution.

Thank You All!

BonnieJean

10-22-2007, 05:24 PM

Welcome, PS, the Lounge!

If you could tell me what kind of garter belt you have (I have a Rago one too), I might be able better to answer your question.

ASimpleLady

10-22-2007, 05:39 PM

I really need to get one. I carry my extra weight in my tummy :(

pigeon toe

10-22-2007, 05:59 PM

I really need to get one. I carry my extra weight in my tummy :(

I'm the exact same way. A Rago girdle really does wonders at flattening the tummy (at least for me!). However it does smooth my hips out quite a bit, and I love the big hips I have. But it's a trade off!

10-22-2007, 06:22 PM

If you could tell me what kind of garter belt you have (I have a Rago one too), I might be able better to answer your question.

Bonnie Jean,
I have the Rago Garter Belt style 72522, except mine has 6 straps instead of 4.

What are the favorite Rago items around here! I am very overwhelmed but want them all! I am still in shock that they offer an All In One that you purchase by cup size! Genius! The only one I've had for years never ever fit in the cup.

BonnieJean

10-22-2007, 07:02 PM

PS,
That's the same style garter belt that I have and I love mine. I'm not sure if one of mine is a 'second' because its a little smaller at the waistline than the other ones in the same size. I'll wear that one when I know it won't be an all-day thing because it will rub me sometimes. The other ones seem to go to the other end of the spectrum as they can feel "stretched out" too, like yours. I've recently returned from a 2 week car trip and after riding in the car for several hours I would notice that the garter belt rolled down a bit at the waistline. A little adjustment and then it would be fine. But I haven't a clue why it does that. I hand wash mine too and thought maybe they would shrink up a bit, but I haven't noticed anything different after washing--loose or tighter, and I wear mine almost daily. I do have a Rago girdle, but I have sensitive skin and sometimes the elastic or something on the girdle rubs me wrong. All in all, Rago products are well made and I'll never go back to a 4 strap garter belt. There's a lot more "security" with the 6 strap and the metal clasps are very durable.

Now that I know what a quality garter/girdle looks like, I may see if I can find some other brands that will work just as well as the Rago. I'm sure some of the other ladies here can give you their 2 cents as well.

deelovely

10-22-2007, 07:21 PM

I'm the exact same way. A Rago girdle really does wonders at flattening the tummy (at least for me!). However it does smooth my hips out quite a bit, and I love the big hips I have. But it's a trade off!
I am sure you really don't have big hips.... but why would you like them big?!:eek: And you say this Rago girdle can really make a noticeable improvement? Wow! I need to look into getting me one!:eusa_doh: :)

pigeon toe

10-22-2007, 07:39 PM

I am sure you really don't have big hips.... but why would you like them big?!:eek: And you say this Rago girdle can really make a noticeable improvement? Wow! I need to look into getting me one!:eusa_doh: :)

I actually do have quite big hips for my frame, but a pretty tiny waist as well. I like the dramatic difference between the two, and the Rago girdle can shave like 3 inches off of my hips (they are very squishy), which makes my figure a bit less curvaceous.

Lady Day

10-22-2007, 08:41 PM

Because this thread is taking the turn of a second undergarment thread, merged them.

LD

10-23-2007, 12:25 PM

My hips and bust are radically different sizes, so ordering by cup size means I can't get into it! Plus, I found their cups to be flattening. So the all-in-one was a failure for me.
I also found their tube-style girdles to run on the small side, I had to order larger than my measurements to get into it.

A note -always get the six-garter model! Your seams will stay straight all day long.

That means the All In One is out for me. Huge difference for me as well. I guess I would like to just start a nice basics drawer and really haven't an idea where to start.
Like tonight for example, my husband and I have an event to go to. I am wearing both my waist cincher and garter belt, because the belt has 6 straps and keeps my stockings in place and the cincher, for obvious reasons. It's just alot underneath my dress. During the summer the belt was sufficient and cooler as my summer dresses had hips that were more free. I'd like to add at least another 2 pieces that everyone finds essential.

Lady Day

10-23-2007, 12:32 PM

You could try a body shaper with garter straps.

I tend to like to go to the bathroom during an evening :o so I wear a panty gertle with straps, and a longline bra with hooks (that attatch to the panty girdle to keep it in place so it wont ride up) or the panty girtle/cincher combo with a normal bra.

If I do wear a garter belt, its not a supporting one, its just to hold up my stockings. Ill put that one on over a cincher and under the undies.

LD

10-23-2007, 01:27 PM

You could try a body shaper with garter straps.

I tend to like to go to the bathroom during an evening :o

LD

Oh me too! Even in just a pair of pants with a few drinks in me I likely to make at least 4 visits to the ladies room.

I have searched for this answer before posting but couldn't find...how do you buy a slip, by bust size or hips size? I had a lovely vintage slip for many years until I outgrew it because of having babies. It didn't have a tag, I purchased it just to wear while getting putting my makeup on and doing my hair. Ever since I have looked for a replacement but they all seem so awkward. The last was enormous, the bust was very high and straps too short or the ornate lace details shows through my clothing. I am looking on 'bay now but am just confused.

KittyT

10-23-2007, 01:56 PM

I have searched for this answer before posting but couldn't find...how do you buy a slip, by bust size or hips size? I had a lovely vintage slip for many years until I outgrew it because of having babies. It didn't have a tag, I purchased it just to wear while getting putting my makeup on and doing my hair. Ever since I have looked for a replacement but they all seem so awkward. The last was enormous, the bust was very high and straps too short or the ornate lace details shows through my clothing. I am looking on 'bay now but am just confused.

Most slips, at least vintage ones, are sized by bust size.