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Agent_of_Empire
03-17-2009, 05:33 AM
I started doing some research into the colors of hats commonly available, mostly to determine what colored suits a hat might go well with. As I looked more into hats and their colors I also started to look into the different connotations of colors. This is just a quick guide to the information that I have compiled from a few sources.

Brown

Brown, because it is the color of dirt, is often seen as wholesome or earthly. Because of this natural feel to the color, it can als be regarded as simple and steadfast. Some people consider this to be a dull color as a result of simplicity.

Brown, depending on its shade, goes with just about anything. It is particularly well complimented by green (possibly through their mutual connection to nature).

Black

Black is an ominous color that is usually associated with death. Itis also a fairly commonly used color to represent simplicity or something stylishly new. The contrast of black against most other colors, because it is not a naturally occuring color, sends a message. Black can also come to symbolize evil, but remains a fairly popular color.

Black can also go with viruatlly everything else, even moreso that brown. It has a powerful effect when used to contrast against a particularly light color.

Gray

Gray takes the middle ground between black and white, good and evil. It can represent security and stability, as well as an ability to compromise. It can be considered a bland or depressing color at times as well though, especially when associated with dark clouds.

Grays neutrality allows it to go with most other colors, but some people argue that it doesn't look good with blues and greens. Once again, this is mostly an issue of shading with the lighter grays being more versatile and only the darkest shades being restricted on what might look good.

White

White represents purity, neutrality, and sterility (cleanliness). White is a neutral color, and also a color representing good.

White is another neutral color, and is therefore able to go with most other colors. Like black, it can be used to create contrast, but with dark colors as opposed to light ones.

Green

Green is a color of nature that produces a calming or soothing effect. Green, through its association with the spring time, can also channel a feeling of renewal or rebirth and youth. Negative connotations, however, have green representing envy.

Browns and greens are mutually beneficial colors - so, as a brown hat goes well with a greent suit, a green suit goes well with a brown hat. Greens clash with blues though, and I am personally not too fond of the greens with grays either.

Blue

Blue is a color of confidence, stability and security. Unlike black, however, blue is considered to be a non-threatening color of power. Despite the soothing effecs of blue, and the non-threatening power associated with it, blue is also a color that channels depression.

I haven't seen too many hats in blue, but a navy blue might be an alternative to black in some cases... The biggest problem with blues seem to be that, when worn with a blue suit, the tones must match up or something will always look off. Similarly, it must be a suitably dark shade of blue to go with other colors.

I tried to hit the main colors with this, but there will always be variations of these and more obscure colors - feel free to chime in.

Wil Tam
03-17-2009, 06:44 AM
my grays are the most versatile and go with most of my wardrobe
my browns work well if I wear tans, khakis, whites with my brown leather coat
my blacks look good with my black, blue & gray suits ... also looks cool when I'm dressing down with a white tee, jeans, black boots & black leather jacket



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scottyrocks
03-17-2009, 09:22 AM
Although I have a gray or two, brown is definitely my favorite color for hats. I love the as-described earthy, simple nature of the color. I wear brown hats with anything Ive got on. My favorite suit is my olive one. So yeah, Im of that nature.

Hey, that was a funny. Im of that 'nature.' lol

jpbales
03-17-2009, 09:25 AM
:offtopic: In your avatar, are you wearing a fedora while in uniform?? :eek: I hope it's a campaign cover with a floppy brim

Wil Tam
03-17-2009, 09:30 AM
:offtopic: In your avatar, are you wearing a fedora while in uniform?? :eek: I hope it's a campaign cover with a floppy brim

I think that's his military issue cavalry hat


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avedwards
03-17-2009, 09:31 AM
Browns can also be worn with more suits than just greens. Needless to say a tan/khaki summer suit is good with brown but even a grey suit will work with a brown hat (see Indiana Jones 3).

And the only green hats I have ever seen are loden ones. So far I have not seen green fur felt ones.

As for grey, in clothing I find that it can look very boring, but in a hat, escpecially with a black band, I find it one of the most interesting colours.

jpbales
03-17-2009, 09:46 AM
ah ok, i just did some lookin' up and found that they do wear calvary hats for things such as "change of commands, hail and fairwells, Military balls and other special events. " Carry on gents...

Torpedo
03-17-2009, 09:50 AM
Browns can also be worn with more suits than just greens. Needless to say a tan/khaki summer suit is good with brown but even a grey suit will work with a brown hat (see Indiana Jones 3).

And the only green hats I have ever seen are loden ones. So far I have not seen green fur felt ones.

As for grey, in clothing I find that it can look very boring, but in a hat, escpecially with a black band, I find it one of the most interesting colours.

I agree that the right shade of brown hat does look well with the right shade of grey suit. It is mainly a question of "earthiness". If the grey is warm, it will work with brown. If it is cold (blue greys, some steel greys...) it will not.

(Of course the reverse applies, too).

The right brown can be pulled off with the right blue, too. As happens with the right grey and the right green. Some apparently unlikely combinations do work if the colours share certain characteristics (like warmness or coldness, etc).

In fact, a lot of factors apply, like complementariness of colours, degree of contrast between them, etc. Some people are more able at recognizing and applying naturally this, some people find more difficulties. Many people, in fact, detect a given combination is pleasant, even if could not tell why. It can be learnt, to a certain degree. Some of it is, I believe, related to some kind of artistic sense, which you either have or you have not.

BTW, if you want to see some green hats, take a look at the "Green Machine" thread... ;)

Agent_of_Empire
03-17-2009, 12:35 PM
:offtopic: Cavalry Stetson's aren't issued... They are just something we Cavalry scouts do for formal events (as you mentioned), beer calls (yes, you do fill it with beer and then drink it all in one go to "break it in"), and you can't forget Cav hat Friday ;) We wear it on the last duty day of the week, with your spurs if you've earned them.

Wil Tam
03-17-2009, 12:48 PM
:offtopic: Cavalry Stetson's aren't issued... They are just something we Cavalry scouts do for formal events (as you mentioned), beer calls (yes, you do fill it with beer and then drink it all in one go to "break it in"), and you can't forget Cav hat Friday ;) We wear it on the last duty day of the week, with your spurs if you've earned them.

you need to buy your own? shouldn't it be part of your uniform allowance?

Subvet642
03-17-2009, 12:49 PM
:offtopic: Cavalry Stetson's aren't issued... They are just something we Cavalry scouts do for formal events (as you mentioned), beer calls (yes, you do fill it with beer and then drink it all in one go to "break it in"), and you can't forget Cav hat Friday ;) We wear it on the last duty day of the week, with your spurs if you've earned them.

I was a Submariner, so I'm not familiar with Army Traditions. How does one earn their spurs?

Agent_of_Empire
03-17-2009, 12:56 PM
Starting a new post on the cav hat to explain it a little better. I will throw in a blurb about spurs too ;)

All it proves for the point of this post is that blue hats can in fact go with grey, green, and loam suits.

Fletch
03-17-2009, 01:39 PM
Grey with black band: I am dull and boring and omnipresent, but I am in good taste.
Grey with any other color band: I know about hats.
Black: I am either serious, or trying to look serious as an ironic pose.
Charcoal grey: This hat is not black.
Navy blue: Neither is this one.
Dark brown: I have taste, but it's a dark brown taste.
Cinnamon brown: I am fond of baked goods.
Olive: No clothing I own looks good with this hat.
Taupe: I am enough of a fuddy-duddy to know what "taupe" is.
Tan or silverbelly: I am outdoorsy, and perhaps armed.
Royal blue: No clothing anyone owns looks good with this hat.
Forest or sage green: I am that guy in the green hat.
Lime green: I am either a. an Italian currently in Italy or b. a hopeless dork.
Yellow: I am a member of the Junior Dick Tracy Club.
White (felt): I am either a. the bad guy who thinks this makes him look like the good guy, or b. Tom Wolfe.

RBH
03-17-2009, 02:11 PM
:offtopic: Cavalry Stetson's aren't issued... They are just something we Cavalry scouts do for formal events (as you mentioned), beer calls (yes, you do fill it with beer and then drink it all in one go to "break it in"), and you can't forget Cav hat Friday ;) We wear it on the last duty day of the week, with your spurs if you've earned them.
Neat!!! Thanks for the info!!

KeyGrip
03-17-2009, 04:31 PM
Tan or silverbelly: I am outdoorsy, and perhaps armed.


:eusa_clap lol lol

Feraud
03-17-2009, 04:44 PM
Grey with black band: I am dull and boring and omnipresent, but I am in good taste.
Grey with any other color band: I know about hats.
Black: I am either serious, or trying to look serious as an ironic pose.
Charcoal grey: This hat is not black.
Navy blue: Neither is this one.
Dark brown: I have taste, but it's a dark brown taste.
Cinnamon brown: I am fond of baked goods.
Olive: No clothing I own looks good with this hat.
Taupe: I am enough of a fuddy-duddy to know what "taupe" is.
Tan or silverbelly: I am outdoorsy, and perhaps armed.
Royal blue: No clothing anyone owns looks good with this hat.
Forest or sage green: I am that guy in the green hat.
Lime green: I am either a. an Italian currently in Italy or b. a hopeless dork.
Yellow: I am a member of the Junior Dick Tracy Club.
White (felt): I am either a. the bad guy who thinks this makes him look like the good guy, or b. Tom Wolfe.

Now this should be made a sticky! lol

Mr. Paladin
03-17-2009, 04:46 PM
Tan or silverbelly: I am outdoorsy, and perhaps armed.

I think you are on to something here...

http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/qq178/MrPaladin_photos/CopyofJan06007.jpg

1OldGI
03-17-2009, 05:56 PM
Classic Movie Shot of a Cav Hat and uniform

http://i672.photobucket.com/albums/vv84/1OldGI/Duval.jpg

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WildCelt
03-17-2009, 06:28 PM
. . . so, as a brown hat goes well with a green suit, a green suit goes well with a brown hat.

Glad to hear it. How about a green hat with a brown suit? (or even a brown suit with a green hat?)

;)

Gilgamark
03-17-2009, 07:01 PM
I've completely gotten off black. It looks too formal with just about anything. I've replaced all my blacks with grays. Gray is much more versatile.

1OldGI
03-17-2009, 07:37 PM
Strictly a brown (and shades of) and straw guy myself. I guess 25 years in fatigues, BDUs and flightsuits, sealed my fate. Oddly enough though since leaving the military in 2005 I've had a total aversion to black shoes. And wear exclusively brown shoes so that may have something to do with my choice of hat colors. After all, nothing says "Dufus!" quite like a gray hat with khaki pants, a brown belt and brown shoes.

I've recently eyeballed a silverbelly campdraft but think at the end of the day I'll go with the tawny color instead. I hate to have such a nice hat that sits in the closet because it's the wrong color.

Lefty
03-17-2009, 07:54 PM
I started doing some research into the colors of hats commonly available, mostly to determine what colored suits a hat might go well with. As I looked more into hats and their colors I also started to look into the different connotations of colors. This is just a quick guide to the information that I have compiled from a few sources.


Which art school did you visit, and did the hippies at least align your chakras while imparting this wisdom upon you?
http://mamashayna.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/chakra_img.gif

carter
03-17-2009, 08:14 PM
I think you are on to something here...

http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/qq178/MrPaladin_photos/CopyofJan06007.jpg
Why do I think Mr. P. is looking for a snake?

HarpPlayerGene
03-17-2009, 08:53 PM
Why do I think Mr. P. is looking for a snake?

Or the guy, who moments before had been breaking into that shed.

Lefty
03-17-2009, 08:55 PM
Are you sure he's not just about to draw on his shadow? :p

jpbales
03-17-2009, 09:32 PM
when I saw that pic!lol


Why do I think Mr. P. is looking for a snake?

Torpedo
03-18-2009, 01:47 AM
Glad to hear it. How about a green hat with a brown suit? (or even a brown suit with a green hat?)

;)

:o :p :o

Mr. Paladin
03-18-2009, 05:54 AM
Why do I think Mr. P. is looking for a snake?

You are correct, sir! And I found him about eight feet to the right...3 1/2 feet long and 9 rattles. I kept the rattles. Wonder how a snakeskin band would look on a Camp Draft?

But I really liked the other ideas as well...

Subvet642
03-18-2009, 09:04 AM
Grey with black band: I am dull and boring and omnipresent, but I am in good taste.
Grey with any other color band: I know about hats.
Black: I am either serious, or trying to look serious as an ironic pose.
Charcoal grey: This hat is not black.
Navy blue: Neither is this one.
Dark brown: I have taste, but it's a dark brown taste.
Cinnamon brown: I am fond of baked goods.
Olive: No clothing I own looks good with this hat.
Taupe: I am enough of a fuddy-duddy to know what "taupe" is.
Tan or silverbelly: I am outdoorsy, and perhaps armed.
Royal blue: No clothing anyone owns looks good with this hat.
Forest or sage green: I am that guy in the green hat.
Lime green: I am either a. an Italian currently in Italy or b. a hopeless dork.
Yellow: I am a member of the Junior Dick Tracy Club.
White (felt): I am either a. the bad guy who thinks this makes him look like the good guy, or b. Tom Wolfe.

lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

Chuck Bobuck
03-18-2009, 09:39 AM
Grey with black band: I am dull and boring and omnipresent, but I am in good taste.
Grey with any other color band: I know about hats.
Black: I am either serious, or trying to look serious as an ironic pose.
Charcoal grey: This hat is not black.
Navy blue: Neither is this one.
Dark brown: I have taste, but it's a dark brown taste.
Cinnamon brown: I am fond of baked goods.
Olive: No clothing I own looks good with this hat.
Taupe: I am enough of a fuddy-duddy to know what "taupe" is.
Tan or silverbelly: I am outdoorsy, and perhaps armed.
Royal blue: No clothing anyone owns looks good with this hat.
Forest or sage green: I am that guy in the green hat.
Lime green: I am either a. an Italian currently in Italy or b. a hopeless dork.
Yellow: I am a member of the Junior Dick Tracy Club.
White (felt): I am either a. the bad guy who thinks this makes him look like the good guy, or b. Tom Wolfe.

Sounds like a lose, lose situation to me. lol

Neil
03-18-2009, 03:17 PM
And I think mostly right on the button. I have a dark moss green hat, and it does mismatch almost annoyingly with everything.

1OldGI
03-18-2009, 03:33 PM
You are correct, sir! And I found him about eight feet to the right...3 1/2 feet long and 9 rattles. I kept the rattles. Wonder how a snakeskin band would look on a Camp Draft?

But I really liked the other ideas as well...

Please do it and post pics, I've been wondering about snakeskin bands for a while, I bet it would look pretty keen on a tan colored Campdraft and a 9 button rattle would make a really nice "feather" for such a hat band. My problem is all the on-line sources seem to sell western (as opposed to eastern) diamond backs. It just wouldn't be sporty to walk around in Florida with a western diamondback hatband.

On another note, your picture looks just like the back five acres of the house I lived in, in Abilene, before I retired and came home. What part of Texas do you live in?

Mr. Paladin
03-18-2009, 04:29 PM
On another note, your picture looks just like the back five acres of the house I lived in, in Abilene, before I retired and came home. What part of Texas do you live in?

That is the ranch I grew up on in West Central Texas. It is on the highway between Santa Anna and Brady just south of the Colorado River (the other one). It is about 80 miles from Abilene and 70 miles east of San Angelo. Lots of rattlers there; we used to hunt them alive for the Sweetwater Round-up and for a vaccine mfger. My mom sold the place three years ago when she could no longer live that far out in the country, and I was too far away to maintain it. It was the best place in the world to me...

Tiller
03-20-2009, 08:34 PM
So, I'm guessing green fedoras aren't that popular, and most people don't like them.

Feraud
03-20-2009, 08:46 PM
So, I'm guessing green fedoras aren't that popular, and most people don't like them.
Quite the opposite.
http://207.218.231.242/~thefedor/showthread.php?t=34488

avedwards
03-21-2009, 01:29 AM
So, I'm guessing green fedoras aren't that popular, and most people don't like them.
Go to Bavaria and a dark green hat will be so common that it's almost inconspicuous. I am not a sterotyper, saying that all Germans wear green loden hats (I am half German and used to live there after all) but it is true that they are very common in Bavaria.

immortaldiamond
03-21-2009, 06:34 AM
I've completely gotten off black. It looks too formal with just about anything. I've replaced all my blacks with grays. Gray is much more versatile.
I have a very dark green (looks black in some lights) cashmere fedora which is very versatile. It's from Worth&Worth in New York, made by Guerro.

warmentrout
03-22-2009, 08:11 AM
And the only green hats I have ever seen are loden ones. So far I have not seen green fur felt ones.

http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss327/warmentrout/0210092212.jpg

http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss327/warmentrout/0210092213.jpg


Fur felt with a velour finish. Very dark, almost black , green

Caity Lynn
03-22-2009, 08:21 AM
^ I am love with the shape of that hat!!!!! not so much the..fuzzyness of it but...*envies*

avedwards
03-22-2009, 08:42 AM
Fur felt with a velour finish. Very dark, almost black , green
But nevertheless a hat which originates from Germany, or at least looks as though it does.

suitedcboy
03-22-2009, 10:10 AM
This color thread is very informative.
I find myself always choosing silver belly of late. Not really sure what this says of me.
I also have taken to sneeking out at night and tipping my cattle over and looking at their bellies. Not a silver one in the whole herd. Maybe I'm compensating.........


My herd numbers fewer than my hats, does that make me "more hats than cattle" in stead of "all hat, no cattle"?

I think a few of the members here would have to run a HUGE herd to have more cattle than hats.

Dinerman
06-17-2009, 08:32 PM
We have threads for blues and greens, but check these colors out.

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee100/dinerman2/May%2017%20onwards/IMG_1495.jpg

Chinaski
06-17-2009, 08:39 PM
Dinerman, I think both of those hats would go best with the color gold, as in gold teeth.

Dinerman
06-17-2009, 08:44 PM
Left one's early '30s, right one's early-mid '50s?
The golden era wasn't as bland as one might think.

Widebrim
06-17-2009, 08:54 PM
We have threads for blues and greens, but check these colors out.

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee100/dinerman2/May%2017%20onwards/IMG_1495.jpg

They definitely would have fitted in over on Central Avenue, here in Los Angeles, during the Golden Age...as well as in Harlem.