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Marc Chevalier
08-27-2009, 10:27 AM
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As many of us know, ricky jackets are a type of rayon jacket. But why the word "ricky"? Google yields no definite answers, only conjectures.


Supposedly, it refers to the Ricky Ricardo character from I Love Lucy -- yet it's also claimed that he wore a two-tone gab jacket only once in the entire show's run. So, what gives?


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Marcus
08-27-2009, 10:31 AM
I'd take "Ricky" over a "BABBALOOOOOOO" Jacket!

Edward
08-27-2009, 10:32 AM
The ...Lucy character was always my understanding of where it comes from - much as, ince the 60s, all jackets in the style of the Baracuta G9 have been referred to as 'Harrington' jackets.

Marc Chevalier
08-27-2009, 10:36 AM
It's more of an early Rock n' Roll jacket IMO. A Jerry Lee Lewis sort of thing.


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Feraud
08-27-2009, 10:37 AM
It's more of an early Rock n' Roll jacket IMO. A Jerry Lee Lewis sort of thing.


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A jacket as worn by "The Killer" might give off the wrong impression. :)

Marc Chevalier
08-27-2009, 10:45 AM
Ricky Ricardo was, in many ways, a retro entertainer. Nearly all of the songs he performed were pre-1940. The only contemporary thing about him was his wardrobe.


Am curious to know who invented the term, "ricky jacket". If only he/she had copyrighted it...


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scotrace
08-27-2009, 11:13 AM
Wikipedia:

Jimmy Buffett states that, "the thing about writing a song like this is that the older you get, the more people there are who need an explanation of the characters in the song. I shudder to think how old Sky king's niece Penny is today. It all started with that two-toned Ricky Ricardo jacket. I can't wait for them to come back."

(referring the song Pencil Thin Mustache)

I think that's probably where the term comes from, Ricky Ricardo. But when the association got kicked off or how would be a nifty term paper.

Marc Chevalier
08-27-2009, 11:15 AM
Wow... perhaps Jimmy Buffett invented the term. No need for a copyright, then: he doesn't lack in money. ;)


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reetpleat
08-27-2009, 03:10 PM
It is interesting that, as a short hand, ricky ricardo comes to represetn a certain fifties imagery. But far from the youthful person that might actually wear one back then, Lewis, Elvis, the kid at the corner drug store, he was a very well dressed sophisticate, many years out of his teens.

While the jackets were not strictly teenage or youthful, they wre typically worn by middle class youth and maybe older working class guys. they would not be a typical part of a gentleman's wardrobe, which would consist of suits, ties, sweaters, and maybe a gaberdine longer lounge jacket or two if you lived in California. Granted, Ricky does look great in the one episode he wears one in, but you are right. That is it.

But Ricky does say fifties.

A similar irony is how Vegas has been embraced by the vintage rockabilly, car culture crowd. Whereas, back in the fifties, while Elvis and buddy Holly et al were playing auditoriums around the country, only square accountants went to Vegas to watch the equally square, yet older hip rat pack. A pompadoured Elvis fan would not have set foot in the Sands.

Even Elvis' appearance was in the mid sixties when he was old, fat and sweaty, and far from youth icon he had been. i am sure that his shows were not populated by the youth of the time, but their older sisters aunts, or even mothers.

billyspew
08-27-2009, 03:29 PM
OK, I'm going to have to ask - what does a Ricky jacket look like? What classifies it as a ricky... never heard of it before.

HoosierDaddy
08-27-2009, 04:30 PM
Someone's got their decades mixed up......
Here's Elvis in 1968...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26176633/

In fact..I had a pic of him in a "Ricky"jacket..but can't seem to find it right now. I'll keep looking.
HD

Carlisle Blues
08-27-2009, 04:33 PM
Ricky


http://www.mainstreetmallonline.com/patterns/members/damngoodvintage/listings/Advance%206315%20a.jpg

billyspew
08-27-2009, 04:39 PM
Thanks CB.
So a waist length zip-up with collar? Does it have to be of certain materials?

Absinthe_1900
08-27-2009, 04:43 PM
I saw one episode where Desi wore a belted Hollywood Jacket. (wasn't two toned though)

Carlisle Blues
08-27-2009, 04:43 PM
It appears Gabardine.........[huh]


http://www.aeroleatherclothing.com/images/Ricky%20brown(b).JPG

Marc Chevalier
08-27-2009, 04:43 PM
It might as well be named after Ricky Nelson.


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HoosierDaddy
08-27-2009, 04:45 PM
Many Ricky jackets were also two-toned. With body and chest/shoulder panels of different colors.
HD

billyspew
08-27-2009, 04:54 PM
Like this one from BTTF?
http://www.bttfblog.com/images/marty_mcfly_jacket.jpg

Marc Chevalier
08-27-2009, 05:04 PM
A rather tame example:


http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u290/crosby_square/2tonegabjac.jpg

HoosierDaddy
08-27-2009, 05:07 PM
Like this one from BTTF?
http://www.bttfblog.com/images/marty_mcfly_jacket.jpg

Yes!...and some had kind of a western yoke with the upper chest and shoulders of a different color than the lower body.
HD

billyspew
08-27-2009, 05:11 PM
A rather tame example:


If only it were a little smaller...

thunderw21
08-27-2009, 05:21 PM
Another, this one made of fuzzy wool.

http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy272/mabeekilroy/Campusjacket001.jpg

http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy272/mabeekilroy/Campusjacket002.jpg

resortes805
08-27-2009, 06:13 PM
It might as well be named after Ricky Nelson.


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Yes! I've always associated the "Ricky" of the "Ricky" gab jackets with Ricky Nelson. http://www.181.fm/cache/images/Ricky_Nelson.mega.jpghttp://adeli.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/ricky.jpghttp://www.tvacres.com/images/ricky_nelson.jpg

scotrace
08-28-2009, 06:49 AM
Another item that got its name from that show: The Western Electric 302 is often called "the I Love Lucy Phone."

Bruce Wayne
08-28-2009, 08:22 AM
Ok, I will come right out with it. Who is Ricky Nelson?

Marc Chevalier
08-28-2009, 08:26 AM
The father of Matthew and Gunnar Nelson.

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HoosierDaddy
08-28-2009, 09:00 AM
..and the son of Ozzie and Harriet Nelson. Also the brother of David.:)
HD

Forgotten Man
08-28-2009, 09:20 AM
I believe before "Ricky" it was an "IKE" jacket!

Originally came from Dwight D Eisenhower's taste for cut down tunics that became popular during the last half of WWII.

http://www.beyondcurricula.com/wwii/images/leaders/eisenhower.jpg

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/ac00001/ac02337.jpg

The popularity of the short jacket and the popularity of IKE in the post war years mixed and then they were known as "IKE" Jackets I believe.

Those coats came in wool gab, rayon gab and heavy wool... two tone, single tone, reversible and so on. I have a few standard single tone gab short jackets from the late 40s or early 50s my self. The likes of the "IKE" jacket can be seein in typical service uniforms such as bus drivers, service station attendents and so on.

Desi Arnez only wore one two toned "IKE" jacket on the show, it was dark wtih stripped collar and cuffs... and a sripped waistband I believe.

Funny how names to items of clothing comes around huh?

Guttersnipe
08-28-2009, 04:36 PM
But , yeah I definitely agree with Forgotten Man that the post-war popularity of the "Ricky" jacket really germinated from the "Ike" Jacket (or M-1944 for you WW2 types).

However, jackets of a similar cut were definitely around in the 30's (like the British P-37 Battle Dress Jacket - again, keeping you WW2 fans happylol )

The term Ricky Jacket gets tossed around a lot on e-bay as a search keyword for any short jacket from the 40's - 60's. That's why the term has become so common. My 93 year-old grandpa (who, from looking at photo albums, was a BIG fan of this style of jacket back in the day) commented that he really liked my "sports jacket" last time I visited him wearing a "Ricky jacket"
http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp271/dvonrock/BerkrayRicky.jpg

reetpleat
08-28-2009, 07:09 PM
I think back in the day, it was just called a jacket. They didn't seem to worry too much about it.

tylerevansokay
08-29-2009, 07:13 AM
Ok, I will come right out with it. Who is Ricky Nelson?

:eek:

Chasseur
08-29-2009, 01:08 PM
One thing I find very interesting is how certain names for items we use today are given to them after they stopped being worn. Perhaps it is the same for the Ricky jacket? Just curious.

I can think of older examples, the classic 18th century "tri-cornored hat" was not called that at the time, it was called a "hat" or a "cocked hat" we just gave that name to it later on after no one wore it.

Similar to for the term "heater" for the classic knight's diamond shaped shield, my understanding is that was a Victorian term given to the item since it resembled the bottom of a clothes iron.

Wolfmanjack
08-29-2009, 06:57 PM
It might as well be named after Ricky Nelson.

No, Ricky Nelson's signature jacket was a 'bomber,' with knit collar and cuffs.
http://img2.allposters.com/images/LIFPOD/126427.jpg

Marc Chevalier
08-30-2009, 05:21 PM
No, Ricky Nelson's signature jacket was a 'bomber,' with knit collar and cuffs.



Then we should call that a ricky jacket, in order to confuse things even more. ;)

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Feraud
08-30-2009, 05:52 PM
One thing I find very interesting is how certain names for items we use today are given to them after they stopped being worn. Perhaps it is the same for the Ricky jacket? Just curious.

I can think of older examples, the classic 18th century "tri-cornored hat" was not called that at the time, it was called a "hat" or a "cocked hat" we just gave that name to it later on after no one wore it.

Similar to for the term "heater" for the classic knight's diamond shaped shield, my understanding is that was a Victorian term given to the item since it resembled the bottom of a clothes iron.
Very good perspective. We have discussed the term "bash" and whether it was used in the heyday of hatwearing. It seems to be an after the fact term.

tylerevansokay
08-30-2009, 09:23 PM
But , yeah I definitely agree with Forgotten Man that the post-war popularity of the "Ricky" jacket really germinated from the "Ike" Jacket (or M-1944 for you WW2 types).

However, jackets of a similar cut were definitely around in the 30's (like the British P-37 Battle Dress Jacket - again, keeping you WW2 fans happylol )

The term Ricky Jacket gets tossed around a lot on e-bay as a search keyword for any short jacket from the 40's - 60's. That's why the term has become so common. My 93 year-old grandpa (who, from looking at photo albums, was a BIG fan of this style of jacket back in the day) commented that he really liked my "sports jacket" last time I visited him wearing a "Ricky jacket"
http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp271/dvonrock/BerkrayRicky.jpg

My 2 Ricky jackets are also tagged as sport jackets on the label. Just thought I'd throw that in for what it's worth.

KILO NOVEMBER
08-31-2009, 07:37 AM
Wikipedia:

Jimmy Buffett states that, "I shudder to think how old Sky king's niece Penny is today."

(referring the song Pencil Thin Mustache)


That would be 76 years, her birthday is November 28, 1932.

john z
09-09-2009, 01:26 PM
I had one of these many years ago. It was a lucky find on the Portobello Road Market in London. It cost me 3 if my memory serves me right. Sadly I wasn't so aware of the value of these particular jackets at the time & exchanged it after a short ownership for some other item of clothing long forgotten. There are, I think, in most peoples lives things that are parted with with lasting regret. That reversible jacket is one of my long time regrets.

So some while ago now I decided to exorcise this particular ghost & began the hunt in earnest for a replacement jacket, eBay being the main source I've found. My criteria for the replacement was fourfold.

It had to be a relatively small size, 40 chest with a narrow shoulder.
The patterned side had to be of the archetypal 'Atomic' (as it is referred to these days) variety.
It had to be in clean, strong with minimum wear condition as I wanted a jacket I could wear often without it coming apart, even with the most care.
Last but not least it had to be affordable.

I found that finding such an example was not an easy task.

Many of these jackets seemed to have been made for the big guys at the time rather than us relatively (well me anyway) puny Brits.
There are a lot of the jackets, although reversible, that are plain both sides or, if patterned, are awful examples.
Due to them being cloth & some 55-60 yrs old they inevitably have areas of wear and/or discolouration.
Also there is no such thing as a cheap example.

Finally after searching on and off for some years this week an example was listed which fitted all my criteria bar one - it wasn't that affordable. Regardless my heart got the better of my head & last night I placed the one and only winning bid. It's a size 40, 18" across the shoulders & in amazingly good condition with a not-to-subtle cross hatched patterned side. I just hope it fits as well as I'm anticipating when it arrives.

Here are the pictures of both the patterned & plain sides taken from the Seller's listing:

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/4093/crosshatchjacket1.jpg (http://img529.imageshack.us/i/crosshatchjacket1.jpg/)

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/8853/crosshatchjacket4.jpg (http://img216.imageshack.us/i/crosshatchjacket4.jpg/)

DoubleXX
09-09-2009, 01:35 PM
Nice gab jacket. I had a similar one in chocolate brown with a white and yellow cross-hatch print. I've been collecting gabardine jackets for a long time...have had them in every print...thunderbird, argyle, two-tone, atomic, etc. I'm down to just two at the moment.

Did you get this one off of ebay? That's normally a $200-$300 jkt.

john z
09-09-2009, 01:44 PM
Thanks. Any chance of a look at the two you have?

Yes, it was an eBay purchase at the higher end of that price band you quoted.

Benny Holiday
09-09-2009, 03:48 PM
Cool purchase John! I had a similar experience to yours a few years back when I sold some 50s sportscoats to a friend. I got a good price on them, but I've regretted it ever since - one was a lemon yellow Elvis-style jacket with a light brown fleck, the second was a light cream-grey with black flecks and he last was baby blue with grey and dark blue flecks. I kicked myself later on!

I hope this jacket is the one you've been waiting for!

Gene
09-09-2009, 04:15 PM
I'm having serious jacket envy. That is what I picture my dream jacket to look like!

I want one so bad, but I'm waiting to just find one at a thrift store for 5 bucks.


Gene

DoubleXX
09-09-2009, 06:39 PM
Here are but a few of the 50s gab jackets I've had over the years:



http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k113/flat_top/nv2.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k113/flat_top/st1.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k113/flat_top/j3.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k113/flat_top/snow11.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k113/flat_top/black3.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k113/flat_top/BC9A60248872440384FFAFA30558920C1.jpg

YETI
09-09-2009, 11:37 PM
Nice gab jacket. I had a similar one in chocolate brown with a white and yellow cross-hatch print. I've been collecting gabardine jackets for a long time...have had them in every print...thunderbird, argyle, two-tone, atomic, etc. I'm down to just two at the moment.

Did you get this one off of ebay? That's normally a $200-$300 jkt.
Shucks, I'm only down to one(but in the process of acquiring another gab jacket soon). I had more than 20 gab jackets both the hollywood and "Ike" type at one point. All were XL-XXL sizes too.

Edward
09-10-2009, 05:27 AM
What is it that pushes up the price on these? I'm assuming a big part of it with the originals is simple rarity value.... but a lot of the repros seem very expensive for what they are too (compared to something like, say, a Baracuta G9). The Aero option is around GBP200, which is just a bit north of what I'd b comfortable paying. Is it to do with the gab cloth (I did read somewhere that it is expensive to produce / acquire / source the correct 50s style gaberdine)? There was someone else in London on eBay a few months back had a whole bunch of this style of jacket (plain both sides, though, not patterened), selling at around GBP100 new. They had a whole line of what looked like pretty good fifties repro stuff, but then they disappeared right and quick. Shame, given that men's repro vintage is much harder to find than women's, in my experience.

DoubleXX
09-10-2009, 10:16 AM
What is it that pushes up the price on these?

Well, like anything old, rarity is a big factor. In this case, the printed gab jackets (like the ones above) are very desirable because they reflect the 50s rock & roll era, which some of us are trying to keep alive in some way. Gab jkts in large sizes and in pink & black are particularly rare and can fetch prices up to and beyond $1000.

thunderw21
09-10-2009, 10:27 AM
Here are but a few of the 50s gab jackets I've had over the years...



Those are amazing.

Marc Chevalier
09-10-2009, 12:00 PM
What is it that pushes up the price on these?



They have become iconic. Deservedly or not, they're now perceived as strong visual symbols of the early Rock & Roll era -- symbols whose "power" you gain by wearing them. (Very anthropological, this.)

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PADDY
09-10-2009, 12:26 PM
Those patterns would keep me awake all night!! haha. Atomic Kitten? can't say that I am. Each to their own though, as it would be mighty boring if we 'all' liked exactly the same things! ;)

Gene
09-10-2009, 12:33 PM
Thanks, flat_top, as I now have to clean all the drool up off my keyboard.

dakotanorth
09-10-2009, 12:51 PM
Flat-Top, you have (or had) some amazing ones for sure!
Someday I'll have to post pictures of my collection- it ranges from basic solid colors all the way to two-tones and reversibles, including two Davey Crockett jackets....
;)

mattfink
09-10-2009, 01:21 PM
Hey, I owned the one with the acorns in Flat_Top's post at one time...that exact jacket! LOL!!!

repeatclicks
09-10-2009, 01:40 PM
Beautiful jackets!

My all time favorite was this one, which sold last week on the bay for $186 (a steal really), its not reversible, but you dont see too many with the side panels... did this one go to a lounger?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/repeatclicks/Picture3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/repeatclicks/Picture4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/repeatclicks/Picture6.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/repeatclicks/Picture5.jpg

repeatclicks
09-10-2009, 01:41 PM
The jacket you bought sold over here in the UK as well (same exact colors and all) but was a bit worse for the wear.

DoubleXX
09-10-2009, 02:46 PM
Hey, I owned the one with the acorns in Flat_Top's post at one time...that exact jacket! LOL!!!

Is that right, Matt? Small world, LOL. Well, the high end gab jackets do change hands among collectors every now & then. I have had a lot more, but don't have digital pics of them, unfortunately.

YETI
09-10-2009, 05:59 PM
the sole survivor
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll56/gabardine49/S7300707-2.jpg
I believe I sold this hollywood jacket to a fellow lounger
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll56/gabardine49/thepastisnotforgotten029.jpg

DoubleXX
09-10-2009, 08:11 PM
Nice jackets Yeti. I had a similar print to the first one you posted...got it from mattfink on here. It's somewhere in the UK now...

flat-top
09-10-2009, 08:22 PM
I have a huge collection of these jackets (not all reversible) that I never wear anymore but don't have the heart to sell.
If the market was booming I might have to put a few on eBay, but I don't think it is.

mattfink
09-11-2009, 10:04 AM
I think flat-top and flat_top are so similar it's becoming bizzaro!!!

dakotanorth
09-11-2009, 10:30 AM
I have a huge collection of these jackets (not all reversible) that I never wear anymore but don't have the heart to sell.
If the market was booming I might have to put a few on eBay, but I don't think it is.

PM sent. ;)

DoubleXX
09-11-2009, 12:43 PM
I think flat-top and flat_top are so similar it's becoming bizzaro!!!


-Separated at birth? lol

john z
09-11-2009, 01:56 PM
Benny Holiday:
Thanks & I'm sure it wont disappoint. But then I have to be positive about these kind of buys or else I'd never go through with them.

I sympathise with those feelings of regret that pop into your head unbidden at random moments you have over parting with your jackets.

Gene:
I wish you luck with your quest. as said I only paid 3GBP for my first one from a market stall. That was many tears ago before these jackets were sought after by so many.

flat_top:
Am I right in saying that only the first two of that selection are of the reversible variety? That first one is to die for. Do you still have it as I'd seriously consider buying it if you had a mind to sell it.

dakotanorth & flat-top:
Pictures please.

repeatclicks:
Those flecked panels on the Windward are the same material the patterned side of my first reversible was made of! That's a nice jacket - thanks for posting it.

flat-top
09-11-2009, 02:55 PM
-Separated at birth? lol
My brotha from anotha mutha!

DoubleXX
09-11-2009, 08:54 PM
flat_top:
Am I right in saying that only the first two of that selection are of the reversible variety? That first one is to die for. Do you still have it as I'd seriously consider buying it if you had a mind to sell it.



The first one is long gone, I'm afraid. Sold it to a British collector a few years ago.

john z
09-12-2009, 02:00 PM
Oh well thanks anyway. L/XL would be too big for me to get away with wearing. No point IMO having clothes you can't wear however rare & valuable.

Edward
09-14-2009, 08:10 AM
So, it's primarily a rarity thing.... interesting. I've seen a few repros of this sort of thing, though not many of them seem to get the fabric 'right' (I suppose there again that also helps to push up the value of the originals, relative lack of accurate repros). I'd be quite happy with the sort of polycotton the better Harringtons have these days, tbh, but it's unfortunate how many repros aimed at the retro crowd are all-out shiny polyester.... I guess that helps keep the price down and if the market don't care, then it makes a business case. [huh]

I do really like the look of that red and white one posted above.

repeatclicks
09-24-2009, 05:06 PM
This one went for about $270 yesterday....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230378647639&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBUAA:US:1123#ht_4885wt_1167

Very nice condition though...

repeatclicks
10-27-2009, 12:41 PM
I have a huge collection of these jackets (not all reversible) that I never wear anymore but don't have the heart to sell.
If the market was booming I might have to put a few on eBay, but I don't think it is.

Youre right. They are averaging about $150-250 right now, even the rare pink and white/black ones.

flat-top
10-28-2009, 05:20 AM
Youre right. They are averaging about $150-250 right now, even the rare pink and white/black ones.
So I'll wait. It seems the entire "scene" has gone backward and is clammoring for 1930's stuff...myself included. Japan really dictates what the vintage market wants at this point, and Rockabilly stuff ain't it.

Marc Chevalier
10-29-2009, 12:47 PM
Japan really dictates what the vintage market wants at this point, ...




Ain't it the truth! But the Japanese don't seem to be buying vintage '30s-'40s fedoras ...


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Solid Citizen
11-01-2009, 08:42 AM
I have a huge collection of these jackets (not all reversible) that I never wear anymore but don't have the heart to sell.
If the market was booming I might have to put a few on eBay, but I don't think it is.

I think a long while back you posted pics of your leisure/hollywood jacket collection. Yes, you have some GREAT :eusa_clap items. IMO I would just
not sell, trying to replace those items would very HARD! Solid Citizen :D

marineabilly
12-15-2009, 08:57 PM
Beautiful jackets!

My all time favorite was this one, which sold last week on the bay for $186 (a steal really), its not reversible, but you dont see too many with the side panels... did this one go to a lounger?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/repeatclicks/Picture3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/repeatclicks/Picture4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/repeatclicks/Picture6.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/repeatclicks/Picture5.jpg

These came in Brown/Tan and Black with Pink as well. Check out the ad on a 1955 "Monkey Wards" Catalogue. Definitely a steel at $168 seeing as they cost about $7.95 back then!! Perty schweet.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b57/marine-a-billy/1955.jpg

J.J. Gittes
12-15-2009, 09:38 PM
I have one reversible jacket. One side is wool with hand warmer pockets, the other side is a tan gabardine with chest pockets. I got it for four dollars! Too good to be true you may think, but unfortunately its trashed.:eusa_doh:

repeatclicks
01-19-2010, 04:07 PM
These came in Brown/Tan and Black with Pink as well. Check out the ad on a 1955 "Monkey Wards" Catalogue. Definitely a steel at $168 seeing as they cost about $7.95 back then!! Perty schweet.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b57/marine-a-billy/1955.jpg


Epic! I love a bit of history.

flat-top
04-10-2010, 04:00 PM
I have a huge collection of these jackets (not all reversible) that I never wear anymore but don't have the heart to sell.
If the market was booming I might have to put a few on eBay, but I don't think it is.
I just spent the past couple of days cleaning and organizing my basement.
So far I've "found" 37 Ricky jackets, and I think there are more. I'll have to take some pics of the really cool ones. They're mostly vintage with only a handful of repros. Stay tuned!

repeatclicks
04-11-2010, 03:58 AM
I just spent the past couple of days cleaning and organizing my basement.
So far I've "found" 37 Ricky jackets, and I think there are more. I'll have to take some pics of the really cool ones. They're mostly vintage with only a handful of repros. Stay tuned!

Uh, just let me know when you are ready to let some go... ;)

jon z
04-11-2010, 01:54 PM
Consider me 2nd on the list if & when the time comes :cheers1:

flat-top
04-11-2010, 06:17 PM
So the final count is 42!
Here are a few cool ones:
No label 1950's
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f159/Orbo/IMG_2997.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f159/Orbo/IMG_2999.jpg
No label, reversible to solid grey 1950's
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f159/Orbo/IMG_3002.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f159/Orbo/IMG_3003.jpg

flat-top
04-11-2010, 06:34 PM
Sport Chief 1950's
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f159/Orbo/IMG_3004.jpg
Fosterwear 1950's
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f159/Orbo/IMG_3005.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f159/Orbo/IMG_3006.jpg
Repro by Reminiscence 1980's
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f159/Orbo/IMG_3007.jpg

richard d.
04-13-2010, 11:04 AM
Why were they called Ricky Jackets? Who were they named after? Thanks



had
I just spent the past couple of days cleaning and organizing my basement.
So far I've "found" 37 Ricky jackets, and I think there are more. I'll have to take some pics of the really cool ones. They're mostly vintage with only a handful of repros. Stay tuned!

flat-top
04-13-2010, 11:21 AM
Why were they called Ricky Jackets? Who were they named after? Thanks



had
This has been debated before, but most believe they're named after Ricky Ricardo, although I think he's only been seen wearing one on "I Love Lucy" (I might be wrong about that). Others think they're named after Ricky Nelson.

richard d.
04-13-2010, 11:39 AM
Thanks for the answer. I was also thinking Ricky Nelson or Ricky Ricardo. My dad had one close to these discribed, however, his was purchased in about 1948 or 1949. His was very close to these. His was reversible a shiny silver on one side and a charcoal on other side. Thanks again, Richard d.
This has been debated before, but most believe they're named after Ricky Ricardo, although I think he's only been seen wearing one on "I Love Lucy" (I might be wrong about that). Others think they're named after Ricky Nelson.

repeatclicks
04-13-2010, 03:38 PM
Sport Chief 1950's
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f159/Orbo/IMG_3004.jpg
Fosterwear 1950's
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f159/Orbo/IMG_3005.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f159/Orbo/IMG_3006.jpg
Repro by Reminiscence 1980's
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f159/Orbo/IMG_3007.jpg

Wow that Fosterwear is particularly good. Any smaller sizes you plan on parting with?

flat-top
04-14-2010, 04:00 AM
Wow that Fosterwear is particularly good. Any smaller sizes you plan on parting with?
A few years ago I actually sold off all the jackets that didn't fit, so the ones that remain are all large and all fit!

Edward
04-14-2010, 06:12 AM
Quite a collection; ever been approached for loans / photos / etc by someone looking to reproduce them?

flat-top
04-14-2010, 11:58 AM
Quite a collection; ever been approached for loans / photos / etc by someone looking to reproduce them?
Thanks! I never really wore these regularly except for shows and weekenders, where are there are tons of guys wearing ones as nice as mine or better!

resortes805
04-14-2010, 03:33 PM
Yeah, that Fosterwear is particularly cool!

Edward
04-15-2010, 02:41 AM
Thanks! I never really wore these regularly except for shows and weekenders, where are there are tons of guys wearing ones as nice as mine or better!

I love these, I might pick up a repro or two, as the originals (at least in my size range - 42-44) tend to be scary money.

fraazierjo
04-15-2010, 02:12 PM
The very first leather jacket I ever encountered was a civilian jacket owned by an uncle away in the War. It was a cossack style FQHH with a reversible corduroy lining. It was the look and smell and feel of that jacket that got my lifelong interest. I later acquired it and always wore the leather side out, naturally.

jon z
04-15-2010, 02:20 PM
I love these, I might pick up a repro or two, as the originals (at least in my size range - 42-44) tend to be scary money.
Edward. Do you know where repro REVERSIBLE jackets can be had with the typical solid colour reversing to the atomic splash pattern, size 40?
Cheers
John

Edward
04-16-2010, 05:15 AM
Edward. Do you know where repro REVERSIBLE jackets can be had with the typical solid colour reversing to the atomic splash pattern, size 40?
Cheers
John

Alas, I've not found anything like that yet - most repro stuff I see is plain. I keep hunting the web, but most sites that turn up on Google, if they bear any relation whatever to rockabilly, are more along the lines of a psychobilly affair (and normally black, with hotrod prints on the back more akin to 'colours' than vintage repro). There was someone on eBay doing some nice stuff about eighteen months ago, but it didn't seem to last. Aero might be able to do something for you - their Ricky jackets look fantastic, if expensive. I just dearly wish Vivienne's of Holloway would (as for a long time they threatened to) do some men's stuff, they could make a killing I think. It seems to me that the men's market is drastically underserved, in the UK at least.

flat-top
04-16-2010, 05:53 AM
Some places like Swankysvintage.com offer pretty good repros, although the stuff I've seen in person from them is better than what's on their site. I've never seen a reversible repro however. Like Edward said ,you would have to go the custom route for that.

dakotanorth
04-16-2010, 09:07 AM
Some places like Swankysvintage.com offer pretty good repros, although the stuff I've seen in person from them is better than what's on their site. I've never seen a reversible repro however. Like Edward said ,you would have to go the custom route for that.

Which I don't understand, because really, it's no more difficult to make a reversible jacket than a regular one that is lined.
I think it's more a factor of finding coordinated fabrics, buttons, and a reversible zipper....
(I *Still* intend on posting pics of my jackets too. :) )

Guttersnipe
04-16-2010, 10:36 AM
Some places like Swankysvintage.com offer pretty good repros, although the stuff I've seen in person from them is better than what's on their site. I've never seen a reversible repro however. Like Edward said ,you would have to go the custom route for that.

Look up the user ID swankyjosh on eBay. Swanky's Vintage sells on eBay under that name and the selection is much better than on the website.

jon z
04-16-2010, 04:02 PM
I did & he only has a handful of shirts up at the moment. Will check back regularly. Thanks for the tip.

dakotanorth
04-16-2010, 05:40 PM
Here's a handful from my collection. Did I mention I hate my camera?
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj214/dakotanorth_01/jacket9.jpg
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj214/dakotanorth_01/jacket1.jpg
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj214/dakotanorth_01/jacket2.jpg
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj214/dakotanorth_01/jacket3.jpg
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj214/dakotanorth_01/jacket4.jpg
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj214/dakotanorth_01/jacket5.jpg
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj214/dakotanorth_01/jacket6.jpg
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj214/dakotanorth_01/jacket7.jpg
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj214/dakotanorth_01/jacket8.jpg

flat-top
04-16-2010, 06:25 PM
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj214/dakotanorth_01/jacket7.jpg

WOAH!!! Now THAT is an amazing collection!!:cheers1:
My very first gab jacket was that same pattern as the one above, only in a bright red!!

dakotanorth
04-16-2010, 07:59 PM
WOAH!!! Now THAT is an amazing collection!!:cheers1:
My very first gab jacket was that same pattern as the one above, only in a bright red!!

Really? I had one too, although it turned out to be a woman's jacket. Stupid Ebay....
Still, I also had one in tan, but it just didn't "pop" like the blue.
I have more jackets ya know....

flat-top
04-16-2010, 08:04 PM
I have more jackets ya know....
Lay 'em on us!

jon z
04-17-2010, 06:01 PM
I think I've died & gone to heaven here.

repeatclicks
04-17-2010, 06:31 PM
I love these, I might pick up a repro or two, as the originals (at least in my size range - 42-44) tend to be scary money.

Nah, not these days. An original black with pink and white argyle in a 44 went for a bit over $400 last month. Thats cheap for what it was!

repeatclicks
04-17-2010, 06:33 PM
Thanks! I never really wore these regularly except for shows and weekenders, where are there are tons of guys wearing ones as nice as mine or better!

Yeah thats just it, if you aren't wearing them outside of shows and weekenders, they never seem as unique as they really are! :)

jon z
04-18-2010, 11:29 AM
I wear mine anywhere & anytime the mood takes me. Just the same as any other jacket I own in fact.

Edward
04-18-2010, 12:03 PM
Nah, not these days. An original black with pink and white argyle in a 44 went for a bit over $400 last month. Thats cheap for what it was!

It might be much cheaper than it was, but it's still scary money for what is ultimately a fairly simple jacket style... I appreciate it's down to rarity (and no doubt the scarcity of decent repros has an impact), but really, bearing in mind I baulk at GBP100 / USD160 for a Barracuta G9....

flat-top
04-18-2010, 12:17 PM
I wear mine anywhere & anytime the mood takes me. Just the same as any other jacket I own in fact.
For as many as I have (had), I should have worn them more. I'd save the craziest ones for the weekenders and shows, and the simpler styles would get a little more use. I just have so much stuff that it's hard to wear it all!

dakotanorth
04-18-2010, 01:27 PM
Alright everyone, kick back and enjoy- here's more from my 10+ years of collecting.

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj214/dakotanorth_01/jacket10.jpg
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj214/dakotanorth_01/jacket11.jpg
The black is a cotton velveteen, thank god- suede would be hell to care for.
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj214/dakotanorth_01/jacket12.jpg
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj214/dakotanorth_01/jacket13.jpg
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj214/dakotanorth_01/jacket14.jpg
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj214/dakotanorth_01/jacket15.jpg
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj214/dakotanorth_01/jacket16.jpg
Faux linen green reversing to faux linen brown. Very unusual!
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj214/dakotanorth_01/jacket17.jpg
This one (Above) is actually houndstooth on the light areas- I was in a rush to take the pictures so it's a bit blurry.

dakotanorth
04-18-2010, 01:50 PM
Another round- I have more jackets, but they tend to be solids, checks, houndstooth, etc. I might do a "Family Photo" of those, just to be thorough.

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj214/dakotanorth_01/jacket18.jpg
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj214/dakotanorth_01/jacket19.jpg
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj214/dakotanorth_01/jacket20.jpg
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj214/dakotanorth_01/jacket21.jpg
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj214/dakotanorth_01/jacket22.jpg
And lastly, the jackets that trump almost every other jacket you'll see....

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj214/dakotanorth_01/jacket23.jpg
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj214/dakotanorth_01/jacket24.jpg

flat-top
04-18-2010, 01:52 PM
Just incredible man!!!! That first one looks familiar ;)

dakotanorth
04-18-2010, 02:36 PM
Just incredible man!!!! That first one looks familiar ;)

TRUE!
Funny thing, I actually have another identical twin to my navy blue vine-printed jacket. Problem is, it has a hole in the sleeve about the size of a walnut....
If you guys notice, some of these use the same pattern of materal- the dark gray has the same speckle pattern as the brown and tan one, the safety orange has the dagger print like the gray one with scenes of Italy. They cut around the italian scenes to make the orange one, BUT the pockets have pieces of that print!

repeatclicks
04-18-2010, 03:36 PM
Yeah, just uh, let me know when you are ready to part with any of those... ;)

DoubleXX
04-18-2010, 09:02 PM
Nice collection, Dakota. I think that mauve and black two-tone was mine at one time...I remember selling one exactly like that to someone in the States on ebay about 8 or 9 years ago. What sizes are those Davy Crockett print ones? I've only ever seen them in boy's sizes.

Here are a couple more from my collection (now long gone...):

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k113/flat_top/DSCF0001.jpg

-Lurex.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k113/flat_top/gray1.jpg

-Colors are washed out in this pic, but the dots are pink, mint, and white.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k113/flat_top/tbird1.jpg

-Pink and grey thunderbird print. Size 46. $1000+ jacket.

I've had a lot more, but don't have pics on the computer....

dakotanorth
04-18-2010, 10:04 PM
[QUOTE=DoubleXX]Nice collection, Dakota. I think that mauve and black two-tone was mine at one time...I remember selling one exactly like that to someone in the States on ebay about 8 or 9 years ago. What sizes are those Davy Crockett print ones? I've only ever seen them in boy's sizes.

Thanks! The mauve and black came from a guy who lived in Ohio- he bought it from someone in Japan, but I don't know where it was before that.
The Davy Crockett jackets are both about 44. The brown one was made recently I *think* by Geronimo, but the fabric HAS to be original- I've got a really good feel for material and it just can't be a modern copy.
The tan one is actually a jacket I made! I bought the fabric on EBay- it used to be curtains, presumably for a boy's bedroom, and I had just enough to squeeze out a jacket.

HarpPlayerGene
04-18-2010, 10:10 PM
Gentlemen, those are outstanding! Thank you for sharing them. Way fancier than I thought these jackets could be. I have a lot to learn.

I bought this seemingly deadstock/new/old jacket today while thrifting. $5.99. is this a "Ricky Jacket" or something else? It sure is plain compared to your beauties!!

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii79/harpplayergene/Getups/Marshall%20Ray%2040Reg%20Ochre%20Jacket/DSCN0658.jpg
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii79/harpplayergene/Getups/Marshall%20Ray%2040Reg%20Ochre%20Jacket/DSCN0659.jpg
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii79/harpplayergene/Getups/Marshall%20Ray%2040Reg%20Ochre%20Jacket/DSCN0660.jpg
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii79/harpplayergene/Getups/Marshall%20Ray%2040Reg%20Ochre%20Jacket/DSCN0663.jpg
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii79/harpplayergene/Getups/Marshall%20Ray%2040Reg%20Ochre%20Jacket/DSCN0669.jpg

dakotanorth
04-19-2010, 12:13 PM
It is a nice jacket, and in GREAT shape. I like the details they added on.
I wouldn't really call it a "Ricky" jacket though- it's more of a 60's jacket, cotton probably, and doesn't really have the features and overall "feel" of the 40's and 50's gabardine jackets.
Like I said though, great jacket, great price- you got a nice article of clothing for a helluva deal, so nice job!

jon z
04-19-2010, 12:25 PM
This thread gets more amazing by the day. I was stunned that flat-top had so many let alone dakotanorth coming up with another unbelievable hoard. You two have enough cloth there to open a museum. I feel both privileged & sooo envious.

Thanks guys & if you have more please keep them coming.

Feraud
04-19-2010, 12:25 PM
HPG, your jacket is more a windbreaker style than the Lounge or "Ricky" style jacket.
Not a bad buy for the price.

HarpPlayerGene
04-19-2010, 02:28 PM
Thanks for the info guys! :)

DoubleXX
04-19-2010, 04:58 PM
"The mauve and black came from a guy who lived in Ohio- he bought it from someone in Japan..."

-That would have been me...I was in Tokyo for five years. Small world, eh?



jon z wrote: "I was stunned that flat-top had so many ..."

I've only posted about a quarter of the jackets I once had...as I said, I have pics but haven't put them on the computer yet. I'm actually down to just one now! Most of the ultra-killer ones I got in Tokyo at high-end vintage shops...the best of the best vintage always seems to end up in Japan at some point. If I could choose the best I ever had, it would have to be a deadstock (complete w/paper tags inside) size 44 pink, white, and grey argyle. Got it off ebay in the late 1990s...the seller found it at a Goodwill in Florida and paid $5 for it. I paid $700, and later sold it to a US collector for a grand. He got several of my best XL jkts, along with another collector in the UK.

dakotanorth
04-19-2010, 05:28 PM
Uh, Zack?

I look back at some of the jackets I passed over on Ebay- back then, there were so many floating around that I had to budget myself and wait.
I've thought about advertising online and saying "Hey! Did you buy vintage clothing when it was popular, but you never wear it? Email me!" I bet a bunch of people impulse bought vintage jackets and now they are collecting dust in the back of the closet.

Funny you mention the pink and gray argyle jacket- that's the ONE I've never been able to score!!

repeatclicks
04-21-2010, 03:12 PM
Funny you mention the pink and gray argyle jacket- that's the ONE I've never been able to score!!

The real deal: A Campus size 44. Sold last month for $480 in near perfect condition (tiny bit of wear on elastic inside):

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/2480/pinkricky.jpg

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/2381/pinkricky2.jpg

Henri
04-23-2010, 05:14 AM
Hello everybody, my first post is here..

Interesting topic - can't say I'm a collector of gab jackets but I like to wear them - on and off weekenders & gigs.

Here's one interesting website I bumped recently:

http://www.reprovintageclothing.com/home.html

Dutch guy making one-offs...don't know about the quality, though. IMHO, Geronimo of UK used to make best repros. I'd love to order one custom-made jacket but it seems that they have vanished from this planet.

flat-top
04-23-2010, 05:28 PM
Hello everybody, my first post is here..

Interesting topic - can't say I'm a collector of gab jackets but I like to wear them - on and off weekenders & gigs.

Here's one interesting website I bumped recently:

http://www.reprovintageclothing.com/home.html

Dutch guy making one-offs...don't know about the quality, though. IMHO, Geronimo of UK used to make best repros. I'd love to order one custom-made jacket but it seems that they have vanished from this planet.
Geronimo really was the best. I have a Ricky, a belted Hollywood and a few shirts from them, and oh yeah, 4 pairs of their shoes! Their stuff was expensive but worth it.

Guttersnipe
04-23-2010, 10:57 PM
Geronimo really was the best. I have a Ricky, a belted Hollywood and a few shirts from them, and oh yeah, 4 pairs of their shoes! Their stuff was expensive but worth it.

Agreed! I have a belted Hollywood jacket by Geronimo in cream, it's the best repro I've ever seen. Also, on an interesting side note, Geronimo items seem to maintain value pretty well; even used they sell for pretty penny (which speaks well to people's opinions of their stuff).

repeatclicks
04-25-2010, 02:37 AM
I think Geronimo is making some very limited runs of stuff. They had a printed 40s knit style short sleeve top with a swordfish on the front. I would have bought it, but the fish was printed on the front, not actually knitted in. It was still really nice though!

flat-top
04-25-2010, 05:14 AM
I think Geronimo is making some very limited runs of stuff. They had a printed 40s knit style short sleeve top with a swordfish on the front. I would have bought it, but the fish was printed on the front, not actually knitted in. It was still really nice though!
I had that swordfish shirt from a few years ago and subsequently sold it because it was too short for my long torso. They had a couple of different prints in that style, but I forget the other designs.

Hepville
05-03-2010, 03:01 AM
Right now Im working on a reversible Ricky Jacket... imho its easyer to make than a onesided Jacket. If it comes out nice I will make one from my vintage fabrics!

Hepville
05-15-2010, 10:30 AM
Yesterday Ive finished my first reversible Ricky:

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/136/l_8101bea4d66e4a29989a8e2bfbc3faff.jpg

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/118/l_f235fec11f834366ac7f763ed122838d.jpg

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/145/l_230f6dbb817f49abb3ada6355708d459.jpg

http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/134/l_c5e302fdd0fb4c5ab7a6928c4faac17a.jpg

The fabric colours dont show up as good as they are in fact.
The solid side is made from old garbadine.
I wasnt able to get an vintage reversible zipper... I will replace the pull for a Talon or Crown.
On the solid side I will replace the fabric covered buttons... it was just an idea but now I dont like it.
The Jacket is not an exact copy of any Jacket Ive seen but its very close to two Jackets Ive orientated on.

It wasnt really more difficult to make like an onesided Jacket.
Some workflows vary to an onsided an took me more time.
You have less space for little errors according to a onesided Jacket.
Parts like collar, waistband and wristband have to match exactly... otherwise you see a bit of the colour from the other side.
Finally Im not an educated Tailor and it was my first experience with a reversible Jacket... so I may made some things more complicated than they could be.

Imho the Jacket came out pretty good and doesnt look to bad on a chubby guy like me ;)

Bla

CC-1
05-15-2010, 12:36 PM
It looks excellent and professional! The pattern is very interesting- not gaudy or corny like some Rickies. No apologies... you look really good in it. Congrats.

jack miranda
05-15-2010, 03:53 PM
Thanks for sharing your stuff with us! We shall await further developments.:eusa_clap

Edward
05-15-2010, 04:16 PM
Looks superb! I like the design; being able to reverse between the patterened and plain sides makes it much more flexible in terms of what it goes with, casul to semi-casual, etc. I'd love to see more of these being reproduced, as most of what I see in the Ricky vein are the same old, same old black, quilt-lined ones with the hot rod related prints. Great for a Psychobilly look, but otherwise limited.

fishmeok
05-15-2010, 04:44 PM
Well done! Now what are your labels going to look like?
Cheers
Mark

Hepville
05-15-2010, 11:09 PM
Thank you guys!


The pattern is very interesting- not gaudy or corny like some Rickies.


I like the design; being able to reverse between the patterened and plain sides makes it much more flexible in terms of what it goes with, casul to semi-casual, etc

Well I like the gaudy/ corny Rickies, too... but not on me. Im not the type of guy who can wear those typical colour combinations.
I was looking for some colours matching good with the garbadine... and this one worked well and economic: I can wear the Jacket with about 70% of the stuff I have ;)


I'd love to see more of these being reproduced, as most of what I see in the Ricky vein are the same old, same old black, quilt-lined ones with the hot rod related prints.

I see it a bit different...
There are some good repro Rickies available, but you have to look for them... and you have to fit in default body schemes.
Imho Geronimo made the best repros. I dont know if they are still working.


Now what are your labels going to look like

Its there in digital mode and reverie in my mind;)

Tony No-Toes
05-25-2010, 11:00 AM
Fair bit a talent and forethought involved in this project. I think it looks cool. Thanks for sharing.

Hepville
06-01-2010, 10:08 PM
A friend of mine owns this Jacket and he may considers to sell it.
Ive made this thread because he is not a member of the FL/ of any internet community and Im not an expert of pricing for vintage items.

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/142/l_f9d28c6dcb8f442984a4b1af464b28d5.jpg
http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/138/l_66b54475a76d4646a488af3cd3e1fa3c.jpg
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/145/l_f11decc16bc24351ab021334a39d039a.jpg
http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/119/l_73a303606ee547898a1526ae0a6949c1.jpg

The Jacket has been gently washed by hand.
The brand is unknown.
The lining was cracked near the armpits and Ive fixed it.
Imho the Jacket is now in a good, worn condition.
What would be a adequate/ realistic price for the Jacket?
Has someone an Idea which brand it may is?
Its about this questions in first reason. If somebody is interested Ill give the measurements and move this thread in the classified section later.

Bela

repeatclicks
07-08-2010, 03:12 PM
Snapped this one up for $100. With the strong exchange rate, thats UK70. Peanuts for a ricky these days! Perfect condition (flash makes rayon look faded, it isnt). I'll post my own photos when it arrives!

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8065/ilfullxfull155991511cop.jpg

jon z
07-08-2010, 03:25 PM
Snapped this one up for $100. With the strong exchange rate, thats UK70. Peanuts for a ricky these days! Perfect condition (flash makes rayon look faded, it isnt). I'll post my own photos when it arrives!
Hey, you got yourself a real bargain there. Well done. If by any chance it's 40 & doesn't fit just let me know ;) Look forward to further pics.

BTW my mate scored an as new navy Geronimo on eBay the other day. I'm most impressed with it & wish I'd spotted it first. Apparently the seller had a grey one up at the same time. Are they still made do you know?

repeatclicks
07-09-2010, 12:42 PM
I saw that Geronimo, and sadly, nope they don't make em anymore. Aeros take on a ricky jacket, although extremely well made, does not line up with the fit or feel of an original.

Sorry, the one I got is a small! I think I'll be keeping it for some time I'm afraid... :eusa_doh:

jon z
07-09-2010, 02:27 PM
Well the Geronimo is now in safe hands of Mark the drummer from the Rockabilly band Ace Trio of Southampton. It's a lovely jacket & in the unlikely event he ever decides to part with I've got my name down 1st on the list.

The Aero just isn't what a Ricky jacket should be. So much potential but they've missed the essence of what they're trying to reproduce by a mile.

I hope the jacket lives up to your expectations, fits & you have many good times wearing it. If however...well just let me know ;)
Cheers
John

normanpitkin
07-09-2010, 03:51 PM
hey ,
i bought the other geronimo on ebay last month,cool in cream with pink and grey argyle diamond patterning!

jon z
07-09-2010, 04:50 PM
Sounds like you you have a jacket to treasure there. I'm envious. Any chance you could put a pic or two up?
Cheers
John

repeatclicks
07-12-2010, 03:58 PM
Not gabardine, but actually a rare lined wool ricky jacket in cream with black lines and subtle flecking. Black buttons and waistband on the sides (literally ZERO fade to the black waistband, and no holes).

Just needs a dryclean (the spot looks worse in the photo but will come out). Cheap because I'm a small dude! Lovely shoulder padding on this one too.

Can't wait for autumn!

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/9592/woolricky.jpg

repeatclicks
07-21-2010, 05:45 PM
Yep, they still reach four figures, even today:

Argyle Madness/Ugliness (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170513322727&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) ;)

I know someone who owns this exact jacket DEADSTOCK. His would probably fetch $1500 - $2000

Guttersnipe
07-21-2010, 09:46 PM
mabybeee...it looks like there were only two high-dollar bidders duking it out with each other, sometimes auctions like these are flukes, because of that. I bet a deadstock version of this jacket would still go for over a grand. Is it as big as this one?

normanpitkin
07-21-2010, 10:14 PM
How could one guess it was from snappygabs.....as usual..does he have a time machine ?

dakotanorth
07-21-2010, 10:38 PM
Snappygabs is known to actually buy stuff and sell it at a loss, just so he gets to be the guy selling it. Reputation!
Obviously that CAN'T be the case on this one. I thought about bidding on it too, until I checked on the last day! I have to admit though, it is a trophy piece for sure.
I'll never forget the one that got away, either. Like this one, but pink and gray, reversing to pink, size 44, and the final bidding price?
$175.
I still remember the username of the guy that sniped me too.

Guttersnipe
07-21-2010, 11:48 PM
Yeah, the guy behind Snappygabs has a degree in marketing, and he really applies those principles to the vintage business. I actually really like him a lot, he's a super nice guy who genuinely loves vintage, and is really cool to work with.

Baron Kurtz
07-22-2010, 12:31 AM
yes, i've had quite a few nice pieces from him; and I don't buy expensive so deals are to be had. Good luck to him.

bk

DoubleXX
07-22-2010, 10:29 AM
I was going to bid on this jkt as well....black argyles are among the rarest of the rare 50s gab jkt's. However, this one was a bit too short for me. $1100 is a bit steep, but it would easily go for double that in Japan.

mattfink
07-22-2010, 12:24 PM
Snappygabs is definitely the man when it comes to 50's vintage!

repeatclicks
07-22-2010, 12:49 PM
Yeah, the guy behind Snappygabs has a degree in marketing, and he really applies those principles to the vintage business. I actually really like him a lot, he's a super nice guy who genuinely loves vintage, and is really cool to work with.

So basically he is the Stringer Bell of mens 50s clothing. Amazing.

repeatclicks
07-22-2010, 12:54 PM
mabybeee I bet a deadstock version of this jacket would still go for over a grand. Is it as big as this one?

Yes Siree, a large size, not a single flaw. I love that different companies made the same damn clothes back then, especially the fleck and argyle stuff.

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/2733/argyleredricky.jpg

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/6448/argyleredricky2.jpg

repeatclicks
07-22-2010, 12:55 PM
Snappygabs is known to actually buy stuff and sell it at a loss, just so he gets to be the guy selling it. Reputation!



He didn't make a loss on that black gab shirt you sold with the red and white hunter/dog theme! I was a little annoyed when I saw that, if I am honest.

He does have a sweet reputation though for the good gear.

DoubleXX
07-22-2010, 04:14 PM
Yes Siree, a large size, not a single flaw. I love that different companies made the same damn clothes back then, especially the fleck and argyle stuff.

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/2733/argyleredricky.jpg

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/6448/argyleredricky2.jpg


-Is that your jacket? Is it a large or XL? Do you want to sell it?

Guttersnipe
07-22-2010, 04:46 PM
So basically he is the Stringer Bell of mens 50s clothing. Amazing.

Hahaha! Yes, he's the Stringer Bell of 50's vintage. I bet he'd get a kick out of hearing that!


Yes Siree, a large size, not a single flaw. I love that different companies made the same damn clothes back then, especially the fleck and argyle stuff.

Oh wow point taken, that jacket is CLEAN! No doubt somebody would get top dollar for it, probably more than what snappygabs just got for his. I suspect a lot of times things were made by the same manufactures and labeled regionally (they call it re-labeling now).

repeatclicks
07-23-2010, 12:24 AM
-Is that your jacket? Is it a large or XL? Do you want to sell it?

Even though argyle isn't my thing, I WISH that was my jacket. Sadly, it belongs to a guy who I buy from. He is holding on to it for now, but you may see it on eBay sooner than later. Trust me, I asked. :eusa_doh:

Besides, it wouldn't fit me anyway as I do believe it is a large.

dakotanorth
07-23-2010, 04:19 PM
He didn't make a loss on that black gab shirt you sold with the red and white hunter/dog theme! I was a little annoyed when I saw that, if I am honest.

He does have a sweet reputation though for the good gear.

What? When did he sell it? I never saw it turn up on Ebay.

repeatclicks
07-23-2010, 04:56 PM
What? When did he sell it? I never saw it turn up on Ebay.

Last week. Got a pretty nice price:

Two Hundered What? (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180529608918)

DoubleXX
07-27-2010, 06:45 PM
And here's a $1000 shirt (another snappygabs purchase):

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150472166323

repeatclicks
07-28-2010, 04:24 AM
The amount of gear that he has bought at $1000 + is insane. Buco D's, Grizzlies, Car Club jackets, makes you wonder!

I have a friend that has been to his house before, and he said there are rooms full of rare gear on rails, just sitting there! He didn't get to have a good look for long though!

flat-top
07-28-2010, 05:52 AM
The amount of gear that he has bought at $1000 + is insane. Buco D's, Grizzlies, Car Club jackets, makes you wonder!

I have a friend that has been to his house before, and he said there are rooms full of rare gear on rails, just sitting there! He didn't get to have a good look for long though!
I've known Brian for I guess over 15 years now, since he lived in NY before he was "Snappygabs". We've been to each other's homes, etc. He does have a room with rails full of priceless gab jackets and shirts...almost museum like.
If he spends $1000 + on something, he must know that he'll sell it for more. I've sold/ traded stuff with him over the years that he resells for double than what I could get since he's the most trusted name in the biz!

DoubleXX
07-28-2010, 08:50 AM
And don't forget the Japanese market...collectors there will pay up to double or more for what he buys something for. So while it might seem crazy for Brian to pay $1000 for that shirt, he'll likely get a lot more for it down the road.

When I lived in Tokyo a few years ago I often visited Banana Boat, a high-end vintage clothing shop in Harajuku. This place is like a Levis museum...stacks and stacks of deadstock Levis from the 30s to the 70s in glass cases. I remember seeing a pair of deadstock XX's (40s/50s) priced at JPY1,000,000, which at that time was over USD$10,000.00, and many, many more for anywhere from $500 to several thousand.

Pic:

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k113/flat_top/DSC012981.jpg

repeatclicks
07-28-2010, 10:15 AM
A good name in business is priceless. Meanwhile, the rest of us scour the web and elsewhere for a killer bargain! lol

Vic
08-01-2010, 01:48 PM
Yes! I've always associated the "Ricky" of the "Ricky" gab jackets with Ricky Nelson. http://www.181.fm/cache/images/Ricky_Nelson.mega.jpghttp://adeli.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/ricky.jpghttp://www.tvacres.com/images/ricky_nelson.jpg

I know this is an old post, but i have to comment. The Ricky jacket was the nickname of the two-tone short gabs worn by Ricky Ricardo on I Love Lucy.

I like Ricky Nelson, but he doesn't get credit for the popularity of the term "Ricky" jacket.

Like anything else, the term has since been somewhat bastardized to include all short gabs.

That's my understanding of the situation, anyway.

Vic
08-01-2010, 01:49 PM
But , yeah I definitely agree with Forgotten Man that the post-war popularity of the "Ricky" jacket really germinated from the "Ike" Jacket (or M-1944 for you WW2 types).

However, jackets of a similar cut were definitely around in the 30's (like the British P-37 Battle Dress Jacket - again, keeping you WW2 fans happylol )

The term Ricky Jacket gets tossed around a lot on e-bay as a search keyword for any short jacket from the 40's - 60's. That's why the term has become so common. My 93 year-old grandpa (who, from looking at photo albums, was a BIG fan of this style of jacket back in the day) commented that he really liked my "sports jacket" last time I visited him wearing a "Ricky jacket"
http://i419.photobucket.com/albums/pp271/dvonrock/BerkrayRicky.jpg

Great jacket!

repeatclicks
08-01-2010, 03:13 PM
I know this is an old post, but i have to comment. The Ricky jacket was the nickname of the two-tone short gabs worn by Ricky Ricardo on I Love Lucy.

I like Ricky Nelson, but he doesn't get credit for the popularity of the term "Ricky" jacket.

Like anything else, the term has since been somewhat bastardized to include all short gabs.

That's my understanding of the situation, anyway.

Yeah except Ricky Ricardo only wore a 'ricky jacket' once, on only one episode.

Back in the 50's they were just called sports jackets. I even have one called the 'Pilot' by Richman Bros, but that doesn't make it a pilots jacket...

Talbot
08-01-2010, 03:22 PM
One thing I find very interesting is how certain names for items we use today are given to them after they stopped being worn. Perhaps it is the same for the Ricky jacket? Just curious.

I can think of older examples, the classic 18th century "tri-cornored hat" was not called that at the time, it was called a "hat" or a "cocked hat" we just gave that name to it later on after no one wore it.

Similar to for the term "heater" for the classic knight's diamond shaped shield, my understanding is that was a Victorian term given to the item since it resembled the bottom of a clothes iron.

Don't come any closer copper, I got a heater!

Huh?:)

flix
09-20-2010, 03:02 AM
here are mine:

http://www.juke-jive.de/xtshop/images/product_images/info_images/11_1.jpg

http://www.juke-jive.de/xtshop/images/product_images/thumbnail_images/5_0.jpg

Vic
09-21-2010, 09:09 PM
I have a few...some gabardine originals, some not.

This one is an 80s repro...it's the only one I happen to have a picture of handy.

http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu150/Vic4763/DSC00957.jpg

flat-top
04-29-2011, 07:19 PM
Bumping this great thread while watching the movie Bachelor Party. I totally forgot that for some reason Tom Hanks is wearing a diamond gabardine ricky jacket in it!

http://img.listal.com/image/1195837/600full-poster.jpg

thunderw21
06-25-2011, 10:57 AM
Picked this up for cheap.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b367/thunderw21/more%20stuff/pics/001.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b367/thunderw21/more%20stuff/pics/002.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b367/thunderw21/more%20stuff/pics/003.jpg

Some sort of shield patch:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b367/thunderw21/more%20stuff/pics/004.jpg

fnoprx
06-26-2011, 02:16 AM
Got this a while ago - no full lentgh picture I am afraid. Light grey reverses to a darker grey with silver thread/flecks. Crown zipper.

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/8873/img0532it.jpg
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/1631/img0530cv.jpg

in/y
06-22-2012, 10:25 AM
I'm looking to buy a repro Ricky Jacket, ideally a zippered front two-tone or fleck gabardine (wishful thinking I'll bet).

Being on the large side, vintage jackets are scarce and costly and I'm looking for one that I can wear often without constantly worrying about damage/wear.

I searched through the Lounge postings but didn't find anything of note (hopefully some one will point out what I missed).

Even a single color jacket or a modern one with a vintage look would be OK too.

Thanks in advance.

dinomartino1
06-22-2012, 11:28 PM
Saw this on the net, they have a few different patterns.
Japanese ones would be good but the prices are very expensive.
http://www.ozoneclothing.co.uk/guys-separates/1008-tarantula-blue-sparkle-albie-jacket.html

Joel Shapiro
06-23-2012, 03:46 AM
I'm looking to buy a repro Ricky Jacket, ideally a zippered front two-tone or fleck gabardine (wishful thinking I'll bet).

Being on the large side, vintage jackets are scarce and costly and I'm looking for one that I can wear often without constantly worrying about damage/wear.

I searched through the Lounge postings but didn't find anything of note (hopefully some one will point out what I missed).

Even a single color jacket or a modern one with a vintage look would be OK too.

Thanks in advance.

My Baby Jo's sells them (or did). Also, there's an online outfit from the UK that sells them, but whose name escapes me. Maybe someone else remembers.

herringbonekid
06-25-2012, 12:48 AM
the best ones i've seen are by the Japanese company 'Dry Bones'. i haven't seen any for sale on ebay in a while though by that brand, although other items pop up.

flat-top
06-25-2012, 03:36 AM
I've never bought from them, but this place has been around for years:

http://www.reprovintageclothing.com/clothing/clothing_men/clothing_men.html

Edward
06-25-2012, 03:44 AM
My Baby Jo's sells them (or did). Also, there's an online outfit from the UK that sells them, but whose name escapes me. Maybe someone else remembers.

I think you may be referring to HeyDay...

http://www.heydayonline.co.uk/default/mens-clothing/mens-gab-jackets

Seem quite expensive for a light fabric jacket, but that appears to be the norm for these across the board. I'm sure they're good - I've been happy with the trews I got from them. May end up with one of these eventually...

Aero used to do them too, but not for some time now. Only fabric jacket currently on their site appears to be the all wool Waterfront.

in/y
06-25-2012, 08:00 AM
Thanks for the leads.

in/y
06-25-2012, 08:03 AM
the best ones i've seen are by the Japanese company 'Dry Bones'. i haven't seen any for sale on ebay in a while though by that brand, although other items pop up.

I guess that Dry Bones does not have an international web/purchasing presence (I could only find their Japanese language site). Are there retailers that carry their stuff or is ebay the way to go?

This number from them is certainly appealing:
http://image.rakuten.co.jp/dry-bones/cabinet/02669194/img59456855.jpg

AtomicEraTom
07-15-2012, 08:18 PM
A friend of mine was looking at an ad on Craigslist last week and called the poster a liar and said that there was no way the jacket had belonged to Dwight D. Eisenhower. I had to explain to him the history behind why it was listed as an "Eisenhower Jacket."


I believe before "Ricky" it was an "IKE" jacket!

Originally came from Dwight D Eisenhower's taste for cut down tunics that became popular during the last half of WWII.

Dinerman
05-07-2013, 05:26 PM
Buck Skein
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq223/dinerman3/2013%20April%20eBay/IMG_6521.jpg
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq223/dinerman3/2013%20April%20eBay/IMG_6524.jpg

Allied Clothiers
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq223/dinerman3/eBay%20December%202011/IMG_0495.jpg
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq223/dinerman3/eBay%20December%202011/IMG_0496.jpg

http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq223/dinerman3/2013%20May%20eBay/IMG_1723.jpg (http://s450.photobucket.com/user/dinerman3/media/2013%20May%20eBay/IMG_1723.jpg.html)
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq223/dinerman3/2013%20May%20eBay/IMG_1726.jpg (http://s450.photobucket.com/user/dinerman3/media/2013%20May%20eBay/IMG_1726.jpg.html)