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Veronica Parra
11-03-2005, 01:43 PM
Smoking looked good in the Golden Era, for some reason. Here's an example:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b362/Veronicaparra/Gardelsmoking.jpg

Bebop
11-03-2005, 01:59 PM
Those Argentinos look great with or without a smoke.:cool2:

jamespowers
11-03-2005, 02:11 PM
Not to mention the American ads had a lot of humor going for them.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/jamespowers2005/lstrike662eathat.jpg
Yep, and they eat your lungs like candy too. :kick: :p

Regards to all,

J

Veronica Parra
11-03-2005, 02:41 PM
Those Argentinos look great with or without a smoke.:cool2:


Not just the Argentines ...


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b362/Veronicaparra/md_tuxandcig_sitting.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b362/Veronicaparra/Coopersmoke.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b362/Veronicaparra/aan.jpg

Mycroft
11-03-2005, 04:29 PM
How about Bogart, he had the style for smoking like a king. http://www.worth1000.com/web/media/51749/bogartsource.jpg

jamespowers
11-03-2005, 04:35 PM
http://www.pocreations.com/bogartcigani.gif
http://www.famousfoto.com/B432.JPG
http://www.famousfoto.com/B433.JPG
Yep he sure cut a dashing swath with a cigarette or Blazing Automatics. ;)

K.D. Lightner
11-03-2005, 05:15 PM
Bette Davis made smoking look glamorous in a number of her movie, but the classic smoking scene is in Now Voyager, in which Paul Heindred lights two cigarettes and gives one to Davis, all the while the two of them are staring at each other. One of the sexiest scenes in the movies and no one shed clothes or even kissed in that scene.

Then there is my beloved James Dean in Rebel Without a Cause, with a cigarette hanging from his mouth.

Yes, Dietrich in many of her films, whether in Morroco (photo above) or when she portrayed Shangi Lili. All the cool bad girls smoked.

Then there was Simone Signoret in Room at the Top. She not only smoked, but she French inhaled, that was coolest of all. My friends tried to imitate her, none looked as good as she did.

karol

Mycroft
11-03-2005, 05:22 PM
Audrey Hepburn(SP) pulled it off (smoking) well in Breakfast At Tiffany's.

Biltmore Bob
11-03-2005, 05:27 PM
Or a drink?

Neither of which I have had in many years...but sometimes those old feelings pop up.

Bebop
11-03-2005, 05:33 PM
Looking at all these photos of cool, daper, real men smokers reminds me of why I started smoking when I was 11 years old. Bogart and that horrible lung cancer that killed him reminds me of why I quit smoking 20 years later, or at least replaced cigarettes with pipes.

Biltmore Bob
11-03-2005, 05:34 PM
I replaced alcohol with kids and dogs.

Sefton
11-03-2005, 05:54 PM
They really knew how to make it look glamorous...too bad it's so dangerous. I suppose if they could ever make it with all of the disease causing elements removed we'd all start lighting up to full Bogart and Davis effect.

Mycroft
11-03-2005, 06:05 PM
They really knew how to make it look glamorous...too bad it's so dangerous. I suppose if they could ever make it with all of the disease causing elements removed we'd all start lighting up to full Bogart and Davis effect.

I know!!

Mycroft
11-03-2005, 06:13 PM
Or a drink?

Neither of which I have had in many years...but sometimes those old feelings pop up.

So, you avitar is more tippsey than you and has ad lungs ;)

Hondo
11-03-2005, 06:25 PM
If only Sir Walter Raleigh knew, quit over 4 years ago :cry: Geez I used to enjoyed smoking and coffee, but it will kill you, as well as make your skin age, look older than you are, I feel better today anyway these days, damage is already done, after 30 years with this nasty habit, I intend to live, just an opinion friends ;)

Braxton36
11-03-2005, 06:37 PM
I replaced alcohol with kids and dogs.
I probably have kids and agreed to dogs because of alcohol!:)

jamespowers
11-03-2005, 07:03 PM
If only Sir Walter Raleigh knew, quit over 4 years ago :cry: Geez I used to enjoyed smoking and coffee, but it will kill you, as well as make your skin age, look older than you are, I feel better today anyway these days, damage is already done, after 30 years with this nasty habit, I intend to live, just an opinion friends ;)

Let me get this straight. You mean they didn't know about cigarettes from their very inception? Try this:
"Smoking is a custom loathsome to the eye, hateful to the nose, harmful to the brain, dangerous to the lungs, and in the black, stinking fume thereof nearest resembling the horrible Stygian smoke of the pit that is bottomless."
- King James I of England, (1566-1625) A Counter-blaste to Tobacco (1604).
The passage was written shortly after Sir Walter Raleigh introduced tobacco to England from the Americas.
So this means they have known the effects of cigarette smoking for 401 years now! If you don't know by now just forget it. :p Puts a new spin on tobacco lawsuits now doesn't it? :kick: :rolleyes:

Regards to all,

J

Bebop
11-03-2005, 07:56 PM
Tobacco lawsuits :rolleyes: . Another one of my pet peeves. Let adults be and act like adults and have adults take the consequences of their desisions. In other words, drink and smoke as much as you want. You have the information on the negative effects. Now accept those effects like an adult. I really should not get started on "adulthood" here. I can go on and on......

Veronica Parra
11-03-2005, 08:27 PM
Bogart and that horrible lung cancer that killed him reminds me of why I quit smoking 20 years later, or at least replaced cigarettes with pipes.



Don't even get me started on Golden Era pipe-smoking!



http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b362/Veronicaparra/WHenryPipe.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b362/Veronicaparra/CGablePipe.gif

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b362/Veronicaparra/KanePipe.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b362/Veronicaparra/ValentinoPipe.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b362/Veronicaparra/CCooperPipe.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b362/Veronicaparra/BingPipe1.jpg



And a future U.S. president:


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b362/Veronicaparra/ReaganPipe.jpg

Wild Root
11-03-2005, 08:32 PM
That JFK??? OR Regan? Can't tell right off the bat.

=WR=

jamespowers
11-03-2005, 08:38 PM
That JFK??? OR Regan? Can't tell right off the bat.

Its Reagan you nit!
Look at that jacket too. :cool2: Makes me want to go out and get my pipe. ;)
Anyone seen Gable's kid lately? The last time I saw him he looked a whole lot like his father---without the moustache of course. ;)

Regards to all,

J

Veronica Parra
11-03-2005, 08:59 PM
That JFK???

Reagan. Jack Kennedy was a stogie man himself. But here's a wartime snapshot of JFK's big brother, Joe Jr., sporting a pipe while at the controls of a PB4Y-1 bomber.

On August 12, 1944 Joe Kennedy's plane exploded shortly after takeoff, killing him and his co-pilot instantly.


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b362/Veronicaparra/joepilotthp.jpg

DanielJones
11-03-2005, 09:30 PM
Even Peter Lorre could look slick & stylish with a smoke in hand.
http://www.geocities.com/cosmotwin/lorre/photos/40wcig.jpg
http://www.peoples.ru/art/cinema/actor/lorre/lorre_1.jpg
But that was then and this is now.

Cheers!

Dan

Bebop
11-03-2005, 09:44 PM
I remember when I was a young smoker thinking that I was sooo cool to hold a cigarette like Peter Lorre while smoking. I have always thought of Lorre as "Mr. Cool".

Pipe smoking was all but gone for quite a few years and now it seems that there are a few more pipers showing up. People are always asking me questions about either my pipes or my tobacco. It becomes a conversation starter. I think it is somewhat socially acceptable. Not as acceptable as in the above photos but more than the dreaded cigarette.

Blackjack
11-03-2005, 10:16 PM
I still have a cigerette or two if I'm out tipping a few, but gave it up as an all day event a few years ago. Smoking as bad of a habit as it is has a LOT of very seductive qualities about it. It is a hard habit to break and I really liked to smoke. My wife quit years ago by going to those herbal cigerettes. They actually weren't that bad, very mild, no bite and compleatly non addicting. They still contain tar but no nicotine. One thing about those old photos was non filtered cigerettes make a much better prop than filtered ones. They smoke better and for some reason look "cooler" than thinner filtered smokes.

Wild Root
11-03-2005, 10:30 PM
Its Reagan you nit!
J

Yeah, ok. I did say Reagan too you know. Shesh!

I'd have to say that is one of the earliest photos I have seen of him! Looks total late 30's to me!

Ok, JP does Gables son look like this?

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/2091/clarkathisdesk8lh.jpg

Lauren
11-03-2005, 10:41 PM
In black in white? Spectacular. You can't smell it, it has a cool effect, and it looks elegant. In real life? Not for me. My grandma died of lung cancer, so it's something I'll never partake in. Unfortunately, my boyfriend is a big fan of smoking pipes and cigars. It looks cool in vintage, but is not something I really appreciate. But I appreciate him way more than the smoking so I guess I'm stuck. If he ever gets into cigarettes, that's another story...

My faves for women smoking have already been mentioned-
*That pic of Garbo in the top hat
*Now Voyager
*Breakfast at Tiffany's (the one color movie I think it looks good in. It was that loooong cigarette holder.)



Don't forget that back then they didn't know there was anything dangerous about smoking! My grandma (my other one) says that everyone smoked because the stars smoked and they wanted to look more glamourous.

But how did the women smoke through veils? Wouldn't the heat cause the plastic to melt? And what about cigarette holders? Don't the chemicals start floating around when there's something that hot in the premisis?

Wild Root
11-03-2005, 10:51 PM
Check this out.

http://img492.imageshack.us/img492/6241/marlenedietrich19340yt.jpg

This photo of Marlene Dietrich 1934 I'm sure sold a lot of cancer sticks!

=WR=

Wild Root
11-03-2005, 11:04 PM
Even Peter Lorre could look slick & stylish with a smoke in hand.
http://www.geocities.com/cosmotwin/lorre/photos/40wcig.jpg
http://www.peoples.ru/art/cinema/actor/lorre/lorre_1.jpg
But that was then and this is now.

Cheers!

Dan


Great photos of him! But, I can't help remembering his roll in "My Favorite Brunette" Staring Bob Hope and Dorothy Lamour 1947.

=WR=

Sefton
11-03-2005, 11:06 PM
Don't forget that back then they didn't know there was anything dangerous about smoking! My grandma (my other one) says that everyone smoked because the stars smoked and they wanted to look more glamourous.


How true! Everyone in my family smoked. Mother,Father,Grandparents,Aunts,well
you get the picture (how I turned out a non smoker is a mystery..). As a matter of fact, my Grandmother and an Aunt worked for the Chesterfield cigarrette company. As a reward for good work they were given cartons of cigarrettes!

BellyTank
11-04-2005, 02:40 AM
http://home.gwi.net/~jscarp/images/moredocs_450.JPG

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Wild Root
11-04-2005, 08:26 AM
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/736/glennlive12qj.jpg

Chesterfield was such a big sponsor for a few of the big bands! Glenn Miller, Harry James and a few others.

Back in those days, tobacco products weren't as full of chemicals and other additives to make cigarettes addictive. My Grandmother Smith smoked Lucky's. She tried to hide it from us till one day we helped her bring in her groceries from the car. She stepped away from the kitchen for a minuet and my mother was putting away some of the goods. She found a pack of Luck's and we all couldn't believe it! Always wondered why grama smelled like smoke and Lysol!

On my mothers side my family were mostly LDS and so they were smoke free! One friend of mine took up smoking just to look more period! I was disappointed in this because it's so unhealthy. He also smokes a pipe and cigars on occasion. He has tried to get me to try it but, my reply has always been this: I'm a 30's-40's Mormon!

Smoking as such a big time habit as it was back then would be the only thing I wouldn't like about living in the 40's. It was in all public places. You couldn't escape from it. Yes, the movies make it look cool and that's about it!

=WR=

Mycroft
11-04-2005, 08:26 AM
Ha ha, that is so choice :clap That is like medicinal whisky or brandy. :beer: (it's good for your health:p.) The "T" zone...

Slate Shannon
11-04-2005, 09:12 AM
Remember, kids, don't try this at home!

I used to smoke cigarettes when I was a young man, but gave it up many years ago. Quit cold-turkey and never had the urge to smoke another one. I must confess, though, that I am seriously considering taking up pipe smoking.

jamespowers
11-04-2005, 10:00 AM
Ok, JP does Gables son look like this?

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/2091/clarkathisdesk8lh.jpg

Yep, that looks nearly exactly like him. He is older now and graying but that does look like him. Interesting how our genes can pull so much from one side or the other. :cheers1:
For those who didn't read it earlier, people knew smoking cigarettes was bad for them since 1604. They just did it anyway. The doctor bit was a bit of subterfuge and appealing to authority for a cover but people knew. Real doctors, not the ones in ads or on TV, told you to quit. They told my grandfather to quit in the Golden Age. They were more blunt about it too then. It was simply "quit or we will be throwing dirt in your face in a very short time." Sounds just like saying it will kill you to me. :p
All this being said, I still will enjoy a cigar or pipe maybe once a week or so. That is enough for me. I told my doctor I smoke and he got all up in the air about it. Then he asked how often I smoke and what. The reaction was much more subdued. The health risk from that kind of exposure is cut down to the point that it is insignificant. Lets remember that people who do not smoke also get lung cancer. Its not exclusively a smoker's disease. Christopher Reeves wife is one case of many.
I smoke knowing the risk and they smoked knowing the risk as well. They just don't want to take responsibility for their actions now and love suing "big tobacco for their own vices. I am sure fast food and the liquor industry will be next. Now if I could only decide which liquor company's stock to purchase. Nobody ever went broke investing in vice. :p ;)

Regards to all,

J

P.S. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
http://www.pocreations.com/bogartcigani.gif

scotrace
11-04-2005, 10:46 AM
If you have a lanky brunette with a wicked jaw, a Borsalino (see the waffled front sweat edge), a grand suit, perfect tie, twinkling eyes, a Lincoln convertible and a smoke, who needs to live to be 100? (which, I might add, he nearly did).

http://mysite.verizon.net/respd8l2/shadow.jpg

Nick Charles
11-04-2005, 11:02 AM
Everything in moderation gents. I smoke a pipe and cigars, but not every waking minute of the day. Some of it is also luck and good genetics. Some people can just smoke and drink and be 80, 90 or even a hundred. Case in point

http://www.fiftiesweb.com/tv/george-burns.jpg


Say goodnight Gracie.

Goodnight

jamespowers
11-04-2005, 11:14 AM
Everything in moderation gents. I smoke a pipe and cigars, but not every waking minute of the day. Some of it is also luck and good genetics. Some people can just smoke and drink and be 80, 90 or even a hundred.

Exactly!
Science has also shown us that two out of ten of us have a gene that makes the lungs impervious to the tar and build up caused by smoking. These two in ten have a super lung cleaning system that continues to function no matter how much they smoke. The cilia in their lungs doesn't become clogged with the tar and nicotine and die. They just keep sweeping out the garbage.
A friend of mine smoked until she was 89. It wasn't the smoking that lead to her demise either. Obviously she was one of the two out of ten. The caution is that if you smoke like a fiend for 50 years the chances are against you 80/20. You have an 80% chance that you are not the beneficiary of good genes. It will get you eventually so moderation is a good thing. Living like you are part of the 80% is a good idea because it is likely you are. :p

Regards to all,

J

Bebop
11-04-2005, 12:08 PM
The tranquility and mellowness of the moments spent smoking my pipes overshadows the hazards. I would have to drink alcohol or take some kind of pills to feel as relaxed and tranquil as I do when smoking my pipes. Moderation is the key word when enjoying tobacco :cool2: or alcohol :beer: or most anything (except hats). :cool2:

Absinthe_1900
11-04-2005, 12:29 PM
I always liked W.C. Fields talking about his son "Chester" when Lucky Strike sponsored his radio show.........;)

magneto
11-04-2005, 05:36 PM
But how did the women smoke through veils? Wouldn't the heat cause the plastic to melt? And what about cigarette holders? Don't the chemicals start floating around when there's something that hot in the premisis?

As a (not-daily) smoker and hat-with-veil-wearer, I just move the veil up out of the way, "catching" it on my hatpin which is, of course, on the hat ;). It looks better than it sounds. Ettiquete-wise, who knows... :)

DanielJones
11-09-2005, 01:01 PM
Another manly man with a smoke. An Image of the era.
http://www.jacneed.com/PhotoFile/Gregory_Peck.jpg

Cheers!

Dan

Blackjack
11-09-2005, 01:42 PM
"The tranquility and mellowness of the moments spent smoking my pipes overshadows the hazards. I would have to drink alcohol or take some kind of pills to feel as relaxed and tranquil as I do when smoking my pipes. Moderation is the key word when enjoying tobacco or alcohol or most anything (except hats)."

I agree 100%, there are risks in everything. People in Europe, (France and Italy especially) all smoke like feinds but their cancer and heart attack rate is much lower than here. Why, because a lot of it depends on what you eat and your lifestyle. Working at one of the largest hospitals in the Chicagoland area I can tell you way more nurses smoke than do not. This is a stress reliever and most of them do it in moderation. I suppose you can go through life never eating anything with refined sugars, or red meat, or fats, and not drink alchohol, or pop, or coffee, and you would probably still only live to what your genetics is going to alow. So I say do what makes you happy, everything in moderation, eat healthy and walk. Good words to live by because nothing will kill you faster than stress.

Quigley Brown
11-09-2005, 03:10 PM
So round, so firm, so fully packed.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/quigley_brown/50luckystrikedietrich.jpg

jamespowers
11-09-2005, 03:44 PM
Yep and without the filters too. :p

The Wolf
11-09-2005, 09:07 PM
It is true Bogart looked great with a cigarette but look like hell near the end of his life when he died of throat cancer.
Then again George Burns looked great.

A side note: My mother smoked for 60 years and could never quit. My nephew wouldn't hug her because he said the cigarettes made her smell bad and made rude remarks about smoking. She still smoked.
I didn't give her a bad time because she didn't smoke in the house. She would go outside and I would talk to her on the porch. (Why is it no matter where I stand, the smoke blows towards me? A physical anomoly.) One of my young sons told her that he was sorry she smoked because that meant she would die earlier. She then quit, cold turkey. She's a tougher dame than I had thought.

Sincerely,
The Wolf

P.S. My dad says quitting is easy; he's done it lots of times!

Forrestal
11-10-2005, 07:53 AM
I have enjoyed pipe smoking for 25 years or so.

I have several rules by which I live my life. While these rules may kill others, they sustain me.

Rule #1:
I never smoke when sleeping, and never refrain when awake.

I have no further restrictions?¢‚Ǩ¬¶

Regards,
Forrestal

(With apologies to Sam Clemens)

Wild Root
11-10-2005, 08:45 AM
Stick in the mud:p

WR

jamespowers
11-10-2005, 03:56 PM
I have enjoyed pipe smoking for 25 years or so.

I have several rules by which I live my life. While these rules may kill others, they sustain me.

Rule #1:
I never smoke when sleeping, and never refrain when awake.

I have no further restrictions?¢‚Ǩ¬¶

Regards,
Forrestal

(With apologies to Sam Clemens)

I never smoke and drink at the same time either. You can't drink with a pipe or cigar in your mouth. :p :cheers1:

Regards to all,

J

Daniel Riser
11-10-2005, 06:06 PM
That simply isn't true... um... never mind

Biltmore Bob
11-10-2005, 06:28 PM
http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/7332/walt9wr.png (http://imageshack.us)


introduced me to the joys of smokless tobacco, commonly refered to as snuff in my neck of the woods. At the tender age of 14.

http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/3461/skoal5hs.png (http://imageshack.us)

scotrace
11-10-2005, 08:38 PM
That simply isn't true... um... never mind

Nothing goes with a Padron like a Maker's Manhattan. :cheers1:

jamespowers
11-10-2005, 11:17 PM
That simply isn't true... um... never mind

Hahahahhaha! You must be a ventriloquist or something then. I want to see you drink an Old Fashioned while pulling in a puff from a cigar at the same time. :p ;) You can take a drink and then take a puff but not at the same time--- at least not to my knowledge. :p
This doesn't involve a water pipe with booze in it does it? :cheers1:

Regards to all,

J

scotrace
11-11-2005, 04:19 AM
You can take a drink and then take a puff but not at the same time--- at least not to my knowledge. J

I've seen it done! Sort of...

Get hold of a copy of the film "Mountains of the Moon." (1990) It's the story of Sir Richard Francis Burton (surprised he hasn't come up here, he was THE adventurer). There's a scene in which the guy playing Sir Richard pours brandy into a wide snifter, takes a pull on his cigar, blows the thick smoke slowly into the bowl of the snifter. So now there's a layer of brandy and all this thick white smoke lying on top of it. He tips the glass, and drinks the brandy while inhaling the cigar smoke into his nose.
When I saw the film (which isn't that great) in the theatre, we all gasped. When my friends and I got home, we tried it - once.
So put that in your smipe and poke it! :)

Biltmore Bob
11-11-2005, 06:10 AM
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3961/freaks4vl.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Hondo
11-12-2005, 12:19 PM
All in all everythings been said, you are what you eat in this case smoking.

http://www.yulbrynnerfoundation.org/psa.htm

rip
11-12-2005, 06:39 PM
They really knew how to make it look glamorous...too bad it's so dangerous. I suppose if they could ever make it with all of the disease causing elements removed we'd all start lighting up to full Bogart and Davis effect.Sadly, kids still do, even with all the disease causing elements intact and known.

On a related note, I just saw "Good Night and Good Luck", which so well captured, among other things, the smoking culture of the 1950s. If there was a single scene without everyone smoking, I must have blinked and missed it.

WetDog
11-13-2005, 08:48 AM
I've smoked pipes and cigars for 8 or 9 years now. But have never touched cigarettes. I don't even like thinking about all the added chemicals and filler paper. Everybody that has smoked cigs in my family has died at an early age (under 60 yrs.). Yet the logest lived of my relatives have made it to 90+ smoking pipes and drinking everyday! I still think its the chemicals and not the tobacco itself that is harmful.

Weren't cigs free of those additives and fillers prior to 1920-30? I think that's when the big companies got hold of the populace by charging a lot less and selling a lesser quality product. I don't know if I've got that right. Hmmm.

Dr. Shocker
11-22-2005, 02:22 PM
as a smoker and a drinker I would rather enjoy my life the way I want than to have Uncy Sam telling me how I can enjoy it.....here in Cali it is the new trend to ban smoking in public places......don't go near a park or a beach with a smoke its now a ticket......but don't worry once smoking is completly banned drinking will be next.......it really is a sad thing when people feel they can dictate how other people behave......my personal favorites are the people who claim second hand smoke is hurting them out doors in a light breeze.....sorry touchy subject for me as a smoker

Daniel Riser
11-22-2005, 02:31 PM
Agreed. 100%. Entire cities are trying to ban public smoking.

jamespowers
11-22-2005, 04:29 PM
Agreed. 100%. Entire cities are trying to ban public smoking.

If they want to do something useful they should ban dressing like Britney Spears or that Aguilara thing. :rage:

Regards to all,

J

WetDog
11-22-2005, 05:20 PM
If they want to do something useful they should ban dressing like Britney Spears or that Aguilara thing. :rage:

Regards to all,

J

Or those droopy pants. I can't stand seeing these kids with their britches falling off. Makes me want to show them the belt ... one way or another. :rage:

Richard

Daniel Riser
11-22-2005, 10:26 PM
If they want to do something useful they should ban dressing like Britney Spears or that Aguilara thing. :rage:

Regards to all,

J

yeah the women too :D

Dr. Shocker
11-23-2005, 10:26 AM
I am entertained by the fact that these elected officials and prohabitionist think that banning smoking is a fight worth having......instead of dealing with say I don't know.....hmmmm Homeless, Gang, Drugs, and corruption problems thye choose to remove one more right........maybe they should ban McDonalds and like establishments for creating the weight problem of Americans.......or maybe they should ban plastic to save our landfills.......these too are great causes that should take importance over humanity and saftey

Hiram
11-23-2005, 06:27 PM
Weren't cigs free of those additives and fillers prior to 1920-30? I think that's when the big companies got hold of the populace by charging a lot less and selling a lesser quality product. I don't know if I've got that right. Hmmm.
You've got that right. I'm an avid but moderate smoker, and Big Tobacco ticks me off. I switched to pipes years ago and more recently, cigars.

I used to smoke Balkan Sobranies back in the 70's and even Camels (which used all fine Turkish tobacco then). The good Turkish tobaccos were a lot more readily available, but now they only export crap and keep the good stuff for themselves it seems. Things may change if the Turkish government privatizes Tekel, the run "Turkish State Monopolies" which run the tobacco, salt and alcohol industries. I haven't seen any recent news on this yet though.

Sobranies are gone, but there are a few decent cigarette tobaccos around. Turkish Specials (real Turkish, not the Camels) are nice if you can find them. D&R Tobacco (http://www.cigarettetobacco.com/ourtob1.htm) sells Ramback, a loose tobacco for RYO's that's makes a good Turkish cigarette.

The thing is, good cigarette tobacco really does smell and taste good. Remember all the cigarette ads that talked about flavor? They weren't kidding. Modern American cigarettes are terrible, and I can't blame anyone for not wanting to smell them. A nice, toasty Yenidje cigarette smells as good as a good cigar.

WetDog
11-23-2005, 06:45 PM
A buddy of mine smokes RYO shag to which he adds a pinch of Louisiana Perique. Orders it from the same online tobacconist that I get my pipe tobacco from. He doesn't get any complaints about the smell (it even produces less smoke than packaged cigs), but does get the normal pot-head comments and such because of the rolling papers. Ridiculous.

Richard

jamespowers
11-24-2005, 10:38 AM
A buddy of mine smokes RYO shag to which he adds a pinch of Louisiana Perique. Orders it from the same online tobacconist that I get my pipe tobacco from. He doesn't get any complaints about the smell (it even produces less smoke than packaged cigs), but does get the normal pot-head comments and such because of the rolling papers. Ridiculous.

Richard

I used to worry about the pothead stuff from smoking a pipe but I never got that. RYO probably looks more elicit though. I have never known a RYO to be twisted at both ends though. ;)
Perique? I have a few ounces here. That stuff is strong. I nearly got the spins from the last time I smoked it. It might be a good idea to water it down. :p

Regards to all,

J

Matt Deckard
11-24-2005, 10:55 AM
http://images15.fotki.com/v228/photos/8/83243/2865133/IMG_1427-vi.jpg

Hiram
11-24-2005, 11:00 AM
RYO probably looks more elicit though. I have never known a RYO to be twisted at both ends though. ;)
Perique? I have a few ounces here. That stuff is strong. I nearly got the spins from the last time I smoked it. It might be a good idea to water it down.
Yeah, perique works best as a flavoring adjunct to milder tobaccos; same with latakia?¢‚Ǩ‚Äùthe strong smoky stuff.

My wife and I use an injector rather than hand-rolling. It makes factory perfect smokes.

Quigley Brown
11-24-2005, 12:23 PM
Yeah, perique works best as a flavoring adjunct to milder tobaccos; same with latakia?¢‚Ǩ‚Äùthe strong smoky stuff.

My wife and I use an injector rather than hand-rolling. It makes factory perfect smokes.

I didn't know if you were ever going to start an absinthe thread, but I just took look at your Wormwood Society website. I was just doing some research on it earlier this week because of a Leonardo DeCaprio film I saw. I've never seen the stuff, but it sure has an oddly romantic and interesting history.

Hiram
11-24-2005, 01:24 PM
Eh. I came over here to learn about hep threads. I can talk about absinthe over there. ;)

It is fascinating though.

Mr. 'H'
11-24-2005, 01:42 PM
It's all smoke free here in Ireland - in all the pubs and clubs and restaurants.

BellyTank
11-24-2005, 02:00 PM
Denmark is all smoke- the Queen smokes!
Smoke anywhere here- cigars are big time here too.

B
T

Baron Kurtz
11-25-2005, 08:38 AM
Lafayette is considering an all-workplace smoking ban. Most places already ban pipe and cigar smoke anyway, so it wouldn't affect me too much. And the university has a 20-yards-from-a-building ban now in place (apparently soon to become a designated smoking area policy - one area on the whole campus! Anyone who's seen Purdue's campus knows how big it is and how unworkable the policy would be).

Don't quite know what they'd do about the local cigar shop (where all the staff chain smoke cigars and tobacco all day) which has a lounge. Make it a private club?

As for smoking and the golden era, the French always did it best. It comes off so natural. Were Frenchmen born with cigarettes in their mouths? :)


http://mots.extraits.free.fr/albert_camus1.jpg

bk

BellyTank
11-25-2005, 08:52 AM
...Were Frenchmen born with cigarettes in their mouths? :)
bk

...well if they were, I feel sorry for their Mothers...;)

B
T

K.D. Lightner
11-25-2005, 09:06 AM
If you are wondering whether show biz folks still influence our vices, my girlfriends and I love to sit on a patio smoking cigars.

Here is one reason why:

http://shopbizshop.com/demimoorephoto01.jpg

Baron Kurtz
11-25-2005, 09:14 AM
If you are wondering whether show biz folks still influence our vices, my girlfriends and I love to sit on a patio smoking cigars.

Here is one reason why:

http://shopbizshop.com/demimoorephoto01.jpg

Link appears to be broken. But maybe something like this?

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/moore.jsrpages/scans/moore/demi300.cigar-07.jpg

K.D. Lightner
11-25-2005, 09:19 AM
Will try another site. I don't know why some of these sites don't show an imagine, even if you get all the dashes and dots right.

Here's another attempt:

http://www.themillionairegallery.com/prodimages/cd4/demi_moore_cigar_afficianado.jpg

If not, you can Google Image it.....

karol

K.D. Lightner
11-25-2005, 09:28 AM
Thanks, Baron, I seem to be batting zero this morning.

I like pipe tobacco cigars occasionally or even cigars, but, luckily, I am allergic to cigarette smoke, makes me sneeze, wheeze, and I get a headache. I wondered, when I was a teenager, why I could never inhale, so only blew smoke, then gave up on it.

Lucky me. That is one allergy I don't mind having, probably saved my life.

karol

Barbigirl
11-30-2005, 01:24 PM
My Mr. and I love to enjoy a cigar sitting in the backyard or taking a walk. I do find it very relaxing and there are some wonderful cigars that are light and delicious. I must admit I enjoy the scandal of being a woman smoking a cigar in public. The last time we did that in Reno you would have thought it was 1900 by the reaction of people in the casinos. We thought it very funny.

Jessica
12-21-2005, 09:48 AM
I have very fond memories of my father smoking his pipe at night. He used to wait until my brother and I were in bed to smoke, but we used to sneak out and watch him blowing wonderful smoke rings with that vey nice smelling tobacco. I will always have a special place in my heart for the smell of pipe tobacco.

Lincsong
12-08-2007, 07:31 PM
:) ....

scotrace
12-08-2007, 07:45 PM
Troublemaker. ;)

LocktownDog
12-09-2007, 07:55 AM
I will always have a special place in my heart for the smell of pipe tobacco.

My kind of gal ... so he says whilst puffing away on a Humbert stack packed with Barking Dog. ;) Its the breakfast of champions.

Richard

carter
12-09-2007, 08:36 AM
I remember walking past a group of German women sitting at a table in South Beach (Miami) about 10 years ago. They were all smoking cigars and no one seemed to notice. It seems to be a bigger deal in the US than it is in Europe. Well, where folks are still allowed to smoke in Europe.

Lincsong
12-09-2007, 09:59 AM
I've been to the Cigar Aficionado Big Smokes and there's plenty of women who smoke cigars. I get a laugh, because my Mom's mother used to tell me that my Dad's grandmother would smoke cigars....in front of men. lol

Mid-fogey
12-26-2007, 06:00 AM
...remember everyone smoking everywhere when I was a kid. When my folks had parties they had open boxes out with cigarettes for guests. We had all sorts of cool sterling cigarette lighters that were part function and part art (where did those things get to?). As part of my mother's silver she had small, individual ashtrays for each place setting.

LizzieMaine
12-26-2007, 06:10 AM
Not only did *everyone* smoke when I was a kid, my mother routinely sent me up to the store to get her cigarettes for her -- "Here's half a buck, get me a pack of Kents, and BRING BACK THE CHANGE." It still amazes me that store clerks never thought twice about selling cigs to a six-year-old.

Fletch
12-26-2007, 07:08 AM
Kent was my dad's smoke...till he met my mom, who hated cigarettes passionately. He then converted to a pipe of Sir Walter Raleigh. Cut it out entirely about 1995 on the advice of his doc.

Kent used to be the unofficial hard currency of Romania. Camel, Marlboro, Kool just didn't cut it over there.

Flivver
12-28-2007, 01:58 PM
Back in the 1950s, when I was a little kid, it seemed everyone smoked...especially on TV. I recently bought the DVD set of the "I Love Lucy" show. It contains numerous commercials with Lucy and Desi hawking Chesterfields (their sponsor).

My dad smoked Viceroy filters back then. But he quit in 1964 after the Surgeon General's report on smoking was released. And he never smoked again. He lived to be 89 so I guess he quit early enough...thankfully.

KilroyCD
12-28-2007, 03:28 PM
I love the aroma of a nice pipe tobacco. At one point in time, back in the late early 1980s I briefly smoked a pipe. The friends I hung with at the time all smoked cigarettes. When we were at the bar having drinks, because they knew I didn't like it, they would intentionally blow their cigarette smoke at me. One day I decided to smoke them out, so I bought a Dr Grabow "Grand Duke" and some very aromatic cherry vanilla blend. It worked, that is until the barmaid asked me to take it outside. :( That was my short-lived stint at pipe smoking.
Now lately I have been using that pipe as part of a 1940s living history impression. Not lit, mind you, just using it a a prop. But I'll say that the temptation to get some cherry vanilla tobacco has been getting stronger!

Joe_Frances
12-29-2007, 09:16 AM
I used to love to smoke a pipe, and did it off and on from college until a few years ago when it became almost impossible to do anywhere but in snow piles around office buildings. I love pipe smokers in the movies. Can't think of any right now except Walter Pidgeon in Mrs. Miniver; but there are so many. Admittedly, they were in British films.

Lincsong
12-30-2007, 10:53 AM
Didn't Mr. Potato Head used to smoke a cigar??????:eusa_clap

jamespowers
01-02-2008, 03:29 PM
Didn't Mr. Potato Head used to smoke a cigar??????:eusa_clap


He had a pipe not a cigar back when we were children. :cool2: :D

Ethan Bentley
09-21-2009, 02:36 PM
I recently watched "Sherlock Jr." and noticed a sceen where Keaton and another character both smoke a bit of a cigar still smouldering from the floor. I've seen this in a few films - was this a regular occurrence?