Where to find the smaller Swiss Salt and Pepper rucksack?

[bshee]

Hey everyone,

I'm looking to find the smaller of the two swiss salt and pepper rucksacks. However, Load-up only has the larger one now
http://west.loadup.com/military/surplus/410.html

Anyone have any idea where to get the smaller one? (14" height)

Brian

[shortbow]

Hope this thread turns something up. I have the big one and have been looking for the JR since I got it 15 years ago. Good question.

[John in Covina]

You might check some of the various surplus places online like "Cheaper than dirt" and Major Surplus which is in Carson or Torrance. They get all sorts of surplus fom around the world. I have canvas Italian rucks from Major that would stop a 22.

[andy richards]

Is this the one you are looking for?
http://cgi.ebay.de/Schweizer-Armee-Rucksack-Lederboden-/250672029850?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Militaria&hash=item3a5d37a09a
Andy

[bshee]

Andy,

I think so! About 14 inches in height sounds about right! I wonder how much shipping would set me back. They don't sell those in America anymore?

Brian

[bshee]

Andy,

1,00 euros means 100 euros, I assume? If so that's pretty expensive!

Brian

[andy richards]

Hi Brian,
1,00 euro is ONE euro. Hundred euro will be written as: 100,00 or 100.00 or 100,- euro.
The 1,00 euro is a starting bid...I assume you know the ebay...
I noticed this seller only will ship to Germany though, but if you ask him he might ship to the US.
Andy

[shortbow]

Andy, I can't read German if that is in fact what language is being used in that ad, so can't be sure, but it looks precisely like the pack I have which is the 'big' one, stands about 19" high. I've never actually seen the little one, just remember being told by the guy who sold me mine that I had missed the little one by one day, he was sold out. Said they went like hotcakes. This big one I got was his last of those as well.

This one I have is such a good pack, so well made and tough, that I have always been sure I would dote on its little brother.

In fact, this pack is the best one I've ever had, including the newer Kelty's, Trapper pack boards, leather ones and such. I've probably been through two dozen packs over the years and the Swiss is the only one I still use.

The weener has been sort of a holy grail for me ever since I bought the biggie. In my fast approaching dotage however, it's more of a nostalgia kind of thing than a necessity.lol

[andy richards]

Thanks for this information.
The language is indeed German, and I just PM the seller if he would ship to the USA. If he answers I will add to this thread.
The measurements of this Rucksack are: 22" x 16"x 8". The 22" hight can be upgraded another 8" according to the sellers' information.
Hope this is of help.
Andy

[andy richards]

Just got a email from the seller. He stated that shipping to the US would be too expensive... But my guess is if you really want the rucksack and also want to pay for shipping he would ship to the US.
Andy

[bshee]

Whoops miscalculated the height, or got it confused with something else. Either way if it's 22 in in height it is not the smaller pack (the smaller pack is 14" H x 15" W x 9" D).

Here's a picture of the smaller pack:
http://west.loadup.com/military/surplus/1600.html

As you can see, it pretty much looks identical to its larger brother. Thanks a bunch for looking out! If only I knew how to search the european ebays haha.

Brian

[andy richards]

Indeed this must be the larger rucksack....
If you want to search the European ebay, go as follows:
If you know what you are looking for, like a Swiss army backpack, go to www.ebay.de (that's Germany and lots of Swiss sellers will be here) or www.ebay.ch .Type the words you are looking for in German (use google translator machine or just ask me ;) ) .Everything is about the same as on ebay usa.
Good luck
Andy

[bshee]

Andy,

Thanks a bunch. What is the German and Swiss name for "salt and pepper rucksack"? BTW is that what they call them there? Or is that the American name?

Brian

[andy richards]

I think the "salt and pepper" is the American name...
Here some options for finding your rucksack:
"Schweizer Armee Rucksack"
"Salz Pfeffer Rucksack"
"Schweizer Armee"
"Segeltuch Armee"
"Armee Rucksack"

Here some direct links:
Most sellers will ship world-wide.


http://cgi.ebay.ch/CH-Armee-Rucksack-Lederrucksack-Brotbeutel-Kochgeschir-/320574978214?pt=NATO_Shop

http://cgi.ebay.ch/CH-Armee-OFF-Rucksack-Lederrucksack-Feldflasche-/310240455514?pt=NATO_Shop

http://cgi.ebay.de/Schweizer-Armee-Rucksack-Outdoor-Salz-Pfeffer-Militar-/120602156752?pt=Mode_Accessoires_Taschen_Geldb%C3% B6rsen_Herrentaschen

If you search ebay go for www.ebay.de or www.ebay.ch .
Good luck,
Andy

[andy richards]

Just found one small rucksack:
This guy is selling a large rucksack and also in his auction is the small rucksack. According to his informations there are no shoulder straps on the small rucksack, but if you win the lot you can transfer the straps from the large one to the small rucksack?

http://cgi.ebay.ch/Rucksack-Lederrucksack-Schweizer-Armee-Militar-/280547901072?pt=NATO_Shop

Andy

[bshee]

Andy,

You are saying the link you just posted is for 2 bags, one larger one smaller? Does he have dimensions on the smaller one? Also, does he say you can transfer the straps, or are you assuming that?

Thanks,
Brian

[bshee]

Google translates it into this:

Large unkaputbarer cotton / leather backpack with accessories. Strong leather strap. Swiss Army Backpack 1957 (leather brand). Filled approximately 55cm high. Second small backpack without additional straps. Henkelmann and water bottle. Various small linen bag are also included in this auction. The material is undamaged and in proper working order. Easy cleaning supplies necessary.

Andy,

Do you actually speak German? Is that how you communicate w/ the sellers?

Brian

[andy richards]

Andy,

You are saying the link you just posted is for 2 bags, one larger one smaller? Does he have dimensions on the smaller one? Also, does he say you can transfer the straps, or are you assuming that?

Thanks,
Brian

Hi Brian,
The seller did not give measurement from the smaller rucksack. And, yes I assume that the straps from the larger will fit somehow the smaller rucksack. I think it is a good lot.
Andy

[andy richards]

Google translates it into this:

Large unkaputbarer cotton / leather backpack with accessories. Strong leather strap. Swiss Army Backpack 1957 (leather brand). Filled approximately 55cm high. Second small backpack without additional straps. Henkelmann and water bottle. Various small linen bag are also included in this auction. The material is undamaged and in proper working order. Easy cleaning supplies necessary.

Andy,

Do you actually speak German? Is that how you communicate w/ the sellers?

Brian

The Google translation machine does work, unfortunately some words are more or less a direct translation. Some articles have certain names in, for example Armies, and sellers often list it with that specific name.
Most sellers will speak/understand English so no problem asking questions in English.
And, yes I do speak German and do communicate with them in German.
Liebe Gruesse ;) ,
Andy

[bshee]

Andy,

How do I ask the seller a question? I'm not sure where the question button is haha

Thanks,
Brian

[andy richards]

Hi Brian,
If you look at the right column on the ebay article page, hit the button: "Frage stellen" . Translated: "Ask a question" or at the US ebay: "ask sller a question" . Just hit the button, ask your question, then select "alegemeine frage" or "general question about this object".
Hope this helps. I noticed the aution is closing in a few hours though...
Andy

[andy richards]

Found another one...
http://cgi.ebay.ch/Schweizer-Armee-Militar-Rucksack-Lederrucksack-1960-/320576362297?pt=NATO_Shop
size is 20" x 16"
Andy

[bshee]

Dear Brian. Thank you for your interes but I can´t tell you exact details because the item is already packed for sending. I know that the strap cant´t be used for the smaller one . The dimension is similar in hight but much smaller. Sorry that I don´t have more information. Greetings Jakob


Unfortunately you would also have to find a strap as well haha. Not sure what he means when he says that the dimensions are similar in height, but much smaller? Does he mean they have a similar ratio of h x w x l?

[andy richards]

Really don't know... possibly all features of the rucksack are similar except for sizing?
Andy

[Creeping Past]

Man, just buy it!

In my mind, a vintage rucksack conjures a certain spirit of adventure. Why not follow the adventurous spirit and quit worrying about straps and whatnot? :rolleyes: ;)

[bshee]

Haha except when you can't carry it around. Then there isn't much adventuring to be done.
Andy,
the bag i'm looking for is 14 h x 15 w x 9 d. So that would be the larger of the two. Thanks for your time though! I don't want to keep bothering you. If you happen on one, by all means please share, I'll see if I can find it. If i do I shall post it here!

Brian

[andy richards]

Thanks mate. I already asked some people in Germany. It seems that most of the rucksacks are the larger ones...
Will keep my eyes open ;) .
Cheers,
Andy

[tempesh]

Here a small review about the backpack he is talking about and his bigger or more solid and heavier "brother".
http://be-cause-blog.com/2012/03/12/swiss-army-backpack-salt-and-pepper-small-vs-big/
Right now you can find them "still" on Ebay but im pretty sure that will change.

[PADDY]

I've been trying to find the small and large packs. If anyone can PM me any current links, then that would be greatly appreciated, thankyou! - Paddy.

[tempesh]

It seems the small/lighter one is more available:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/CH-Schweizer-Armee-Rucksack-Salz-Pfeffer-Lederboden-/300664724011?pt=NATO_Shop&hash=item4601039a2b

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Schweizer-Armee-Rucksack-Salz-Pfeffer-Swiss-Military-/380340083596?pt=NATO_Shop&hash=item588e091b8c

And here single offers for the bigger/heavier ones:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/original-SCHWEIZER-ARMEE-MILITAR-RUCKSACK-SWISS-SALZ-PFEFFER-LEDER-GEPACK-TOP-/180837109710?pt=Militaria&hash=item2a1abb4fce

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Schweizer-Armee-Rucksack-Doppelpack-klein-gros-Armeerucksack-/120875114596?pt=Militaria&hash=item1c24b7e064