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Miss_Bella_Hell
05-31-2011, 07:17 PM
Anyone as horrified as I am by this? I imagine yes.
http://theredvelvetshoe.typepad.com/.a/6a00df3521db96883301538dfff8b1970b-450wi

W4ASZ
05-31-2011, 07:39 PM
Now that's just sad bordering on sorry.

(I wandered in by mistake. Now if you will excuse me ...)

Land-O-LakesGal
05-31-2011, 07:52 PM
So sad....

nosferaturoams
05-31-2011, 07:57 PM
Oh dear :(
To have gone from something so glamorous to That? RIP beautiful dress

Lady Day
05-31-2011, 07:57 PM
Such a high profile upcycle.

Even though its her dress, its a very arrogant thing for both the granddaughter and the designer to do. To think they can improve on it by any stretch of the imagination. That girl is not her granny. Sorry.

LD

rue
05-31-2011, 08:01 PM
I don't understand why she didn't leave the dress alone and just have a shorter look-a-like version made [huh]

JupitersDarling
05-31-2011, 08:15 PM
eh, it definitely looked better and more vintage glam pre-modification to me. I don't really see how the dress before modification hit at an "awkward length" as the article said... looks like it goes down plenty in the picture.

But, I don't feel horrified that Bergman's granddaughter modified her vintage gown. It's not like it was an iconic dress... just a glamourous old gown that didn't quite match Elettra's contemporary aesthetic. At least she made (re)use of it rather than dumping it.


I don't understand why she didn't leave the dress alone and just have a shorter look-a-like version made the dress' own history doomed it, no doubt. it's funny how people attach significance to things that were worn/used by others. "hey look, I'm wearing my famous grandma's dress!" doesn't quite have the same ring as "hey look, I'm wearing a dress like my famous grandma's!"

RodeoRose
05-31-2011, 08:18 PM
Oh, gosh, that's lacking in taste.

It always breaks my heart when I see perfectly lovely vintage frocks "upcycled" to look more modern; seriously, folks, if it's modern aesthetics you're after, leave the vintage alone and buy a modern dress! A dress that's cut to be long just won't look right short, and why mess with success anyway? :eusa_doh:

cherry lips
06-01-2011, 03:27 AM
I can't believe someone dared put a scissor to it and take away more than half of the dress! At least if they'd let it hit beneath the knee it would still have some harmony left. Alas!

Drappa
06-01-2011, 04:02 AM
I don't find this any more disturbing than anybody altering their mother's or grandmother's wedding gown in order to fit their taste.
She may regret it one day, but even thenit's not like somebody else would have had a chance to wear or own it, and it would have been in storage somewhere.

LizzieMaine
06-01-2011, 05:02 AM
Whoa, bare knees. How shocking and transgressive. And lumpy.

Stray Cat
06-01-2011, 06:49 AM
Sad day for that dress. It just died.

:(

SheBear74
06-01-2011, 07:25 AM
She was given two of the dresses and cut one up? Hmm I don't think I would have done that.

Miss Golightly
06-01-2011, 09:42 AM
That is just plain horrible - imagine cutting up that beautiful gown - doesn't bear thinking about - cutting away history and a truly stunning dress. I really don't like dresses above the knee (never really have) and I don't care how young/old you are I don't think knees are the nicest parts of the body to show off regardless of what shape you are in or what age you are - I'm a strictly below the knee kind of gal - to me it's infinitely more elegant.

LizzieMaine
06-01-2011, 09:53 AM
Absolutely agreed. The problem with that look, aside from the lumpiness, is that it makes the poor girl look terribly top-heavy. Maybe modern fashion requires that you look like you'd tip over in a strong wind, but I don't think it's very flattering on anyone, least of all if it takes a cut up vintage gown to achieve it.

CherryRed
06-01-2011, 10:17 AM
Terrible! Wasn't this also recently done for some ones Oscar dress?

SheBear74
06-01-2011, 10:50 AM
*pulls her above the knee sundress down to cover her knees* lol

cherry lips
06-01-2011, 11:53 AM
A propos knees: I used to be a "below the knee girl", but now that I've fallen head over heel for the sixties, up the hem goes! However, I agree with RodeoRose, this particular dress isn't cut to be that short, it looks out of proportion now. I'm surprised a designer wouldn't be sensitive to this.

A dress that's cut to be long just won't look right short, and why mess with success anyway? :eusa_doh:

Lily Powers
06-01-2011, 11:57 AM
No one (or Vogue) would look twice at that re-made dress if it weren't for the fact it was owned by her famous grandmother. Is it stylish? Creative? Even slightly special? Really, she could have just trotted down to her local Forever 21 and picked a dress with the same cookie-cutter aesthetics. And what will she brag about it? That it belonged to Ingrid Bergman.

Lady Day
06-01-2011, 03:16 PM
I don't see anything wrong with above the knee. I don't care for it on me as I see it as something more youthful, and very casual.
An above the knee evening gown is an oxy moron.

LD

Tuesday_Next
06-03-2011, 06:07 AM
A beautiful dress gave its life so that she may appear in Vogue. Imagine how much more glamorous Elletra would have seemed had she just shown up wearing the dress fully intact? "This old thing? I got in from Granny's attic!"

psugrad98
06-03-2011, 07:08 AM
I don't think it looks horrible as a standalone dress. It's a "modern" take on an original. But to do THAT to the real dress is wrong. Make a copy for Christ's sake.

HannahLou
06-04-2011, 04:43 AM
Terrible! Wasn't this also recently done for some ones Oscar dress?

Yes, Colin Firth's wife wore a dress made up from 11 dresses from the 30's - the era of 'The King's Speech'

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://cdni.condenast.co.uk/426x639/k_n/Lfirth4_V_28feb11_b.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.vogue.co.uk/blogs/livia-firth/110228-livia-firth-gary-harvey-oscars-2011-red-carpet-dress.aspx&usg=__UILmU1EKBhEiVIh8VdDF1Qk_17w=&h=639&w=426&sz=42&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=uZzwXkHGu96y2M:&tbnh=132&tbnw=97&ei=lBnqTdWeGs-UswbTzOCBCQ&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dlivia%2Bfirth%2Boscar%2Bdress%26um%3D 1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rlz%3D1R2SKPB_enGB394%26biw %3D1345%26bih%3D559%26tbm%3Disch&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=123&vpy=42&dur=5819&hovh=275&hovw=183&tx=121&ty=161&page=1&ndsp=28&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0&biw=1345&bih=559

Lady Day
06-04-2011, 01:35 PM
Yes, Colin Firth's wife wore a dress made up from 11 dresses from the 30's - the era of 'The King's Speech'

Eh.
I just cant believe these women found designers to do this. Would these designers want their art to be cut up and patched together for whatever modern ascetic of the time in 60 years? I don't think so. Would you decoupage the Mona Lisa?

I wonder how many designers they actually passed up before they found someone to do it.

LD

bunnyb.gal
06-04-2011, 02:00 PM
Eh.
I just cant believe these women found designers to do this. Would these designers want their art to be cut up and patched together for whatever modern ascetic of the time in 60 years? I don't think so. Would you decoupage the Mona Lisa?

I wonder how many designers they actually passed up before they found someone to do it.

LD

And I can't quite understand why people that do this kind of thing are called designers. Sartorial scavengers seems more appropriate. Fair dos if those 11 dresses had say, 11 usable bits with the rest ready for the knackers yard, but otherwise...ugh!

Drappa
06-04-2011, 02:17 PM
^The vintage shop they came from actually published a statement explaining that the 11 dresses were beyond repair and could not be sold or worn as they were.

Deco-Doll-1928
06-12-2011, 01:27 AM
I'm not exactly thrilled about them cutting up a vintage dress that belonged to Ingrid Bergman either, however, I think that's better than losing ALL of the dress completely. I was at a vintage fashion expo one time and I saw this gorgeous red dress (that was way out of my budget--:(). As I was talking to the owner of the booth, I found out that it was a dress that was from the 1940s and at one point in it's "life" it had been shortened by "someone". It's a bit tragic when something doesn't stay as it was originally intended, but it doesn't mean the "instant death" to something. I'm sure in her own way, Ingrid Bergman's granddaughter felt that she was honoring her grandmother's memory by wearing her dress, shorten or not. That's something a reproduction is never going to have.

Mae Croft
06-12-2011, 03:56 AM
Somehow an original, un-altered dress that was worn by Ingrid Bergman on display somewhere sounds better to me than having it cut in half for what's likely to be a single photo shoot. Things like this just bug me.

sheeplady
06-13-2011, 11:07 AM
I think the amusing part about the whole thing (at least to me) is how it was "updated." All I can see is that someone took a pair of sizzors to the thing.

I didn't think that it was so much "designing" as I thought it was "cutting"- a skill that most people learn by the end of kindergarten. I wonder how much that designer took out of her pocket for a job an average five-year-old could do.

LollyWillowes
06-29-2011, 03:07 AM
This sort of thing is one of my Great Hates! It's tasteless on various levels. I am sooo sick of seeing above the knee dresses all the time too. Sometimes it works but it frequently doesn't. Besides, even if you have fabulous legs you don't want to be in a mini length all the time. All I ever see in the shops are dresses that would look so much better with a bit more length to them, and I am a short ass, they must be just below normal/tall women's behinds.

Viola
06-30-2011, 04:07 AM
Hey I'll say it - I like short skirts. I do. I'm terribly short, but I have nice-ish legs (for a shorty) and I like proving I HAVE legs, and many things that should be mid-calf tend to be ankle on me and not designed for it. Not very pretty.

I love short flapper dresses, though I don't own any.

BUT... I would not have done this to this dress. Liking short skirts =/= liking this look very much.

I have a *LOT* of things from my grandmother (who was not rich) and a lot I keep exactly as they were when I got them - but I also have to admit I wouldn't treat every dress of hers the same. I assume she knows just how wonderful her grandmother was. I don't assume she doesn't have anything else from her, whether furniture or jewelry or whatever, that go perfectly preserved, even if this dress got cut down. I think its a bit sad, especially that it was done THIS way - but not necessarily a sign of being terribly unfeeling, on the granddaughters' part. A bit thickheaded on the designers', though. Given a canvas of "Bergman dress" I would think would be all the challenge you could get and you'd come out of the gate with a bit more than "take it up."

Imagine what COULD have been done, if something had to be done. That's the real tragedy, to my mind.

C-dot
06-30-2011, 07:23 AM
I read that article when it was new. I was reminded of Pretty in Pink (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091790/), when Andie ruins that ADORABLE pink 60's dress to make the monstrosity she wore to the prom...

At the very least, it was original. All I can see was done to Ingrid's dress was that the skirt was cut off at the thighs... Gee, we've never seen that before. What a shame.

Deco-Doll-1928
06-30-2011, 11:36 AM
As much as I love Pretty In Pink, that was the part that my eyes could not stop twitching at. I'm like she "ruined" the dress! :eeek: The other thing I couldn't stand was the horrible wig they let poor Andrew McCarthy wear to the prom! lol That was because there was another ending to the movie originally and they decided to do a re-shoot. At the time of the re-shoot, Andrew McCarthy was bald because of a play he was doing at the time.

Well that was the 80s for you. Weirdly enough though, Molly Ringwald's character was all about shopping at thrift shops and being crafty. Two things that I admire, but when it came to that dress I was like, "OMG!!" :eek:

Before the powers at be, tackle me for going a wee bit off topic, I thought I post another picture of that dress on the red carpet. Sometimes it's hard to tell in a magazine photo shoot how a dress really looks like. From the photo shoot, I thought originally the dress was very stiff in the back. On the red carpet, that's not the case at all.

http://art8amby.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/elettra-rossellini-wiedemann-in-her-grandmother-ingrid-bergmans-dress-modified-by-prabal-gurung.jpg

I'm sorry to say this, but I really do believe that no one would have cared about this dress if it didn't belong to Ingrid Bergman. It never would have gotten any press if that was the case. So many great dresses I think go through transformations with out us really knowing about it.

I remember seeing this on TV once. This lady lived in a great 1920s house. And what color does she decide to paint it? GREY!! UHHGGG!!! As much as I can have a riot in my head about it, it's still her house and if that makes her happy, that's what matters. If it were me, I probably going through the process of trying to keep it "original" as possible, but that's me.

Okay I'll stop before somebody decides to crack the whip! Or I'll get eggs thrown at me! :o