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StraightRazor
02-18-2006, 08:03 PM
]I know smoking threads are generally unpopular. Most people agree that it looks cool, but nearly everyone goes out of their way to point out how bad it is for you. Smoking, bad? Why didnt somebody tell me??!! I dont see what the big deal is, if it's done in MODERATION. Most people in this country dont seem to be able to wrap their heads around that. Just like you can drink without being a drunk, you can smoke without being a chimney. One ciggarette every couple weeks may not be the greatest thing in the world for you, but I'm pretty sure you wont drop dead on the spot. You just have to discipline yourself. The same with pipe smoking, one of my many guilty pleasures. I dont smoke every day, far, far from it. More like every month, if that. So, what tobbacos do you enjoy and what do you smoke it in?
I have a handmade, longstemmed, clay churchwarden made by a woman in devon, England. Its my 'Hobbit' pipe and probably my favorite. No tedious breaking in process, or constant care needed. The clay is so absorbent you dont need to worry about building up a cake. When it becomes too saturated with resins, I just drop it in a bed of coals and it looks like new, only better. My second favorite is a basic Stanwell briar that I only paid about $65 for. Its a decent smoker, but pretty plain. I've always pined for a nice Dunhill briar. But like I said, I dont smoke often enough to warrant the price.
My favorite blends include Frog Morton on the town, and Mclellans, 'St. James Woods' if I want something heavier. My local tobbaconist also has their own pipe blends many of which I enjoy. If you ever make it to a Port Royal shop try the 'Mountain Cherry', one of my favorites.
topcat
02-18-2006, 09:57 PM
Hello fellow new guy in town. Love pipes ,love cigars ,occassional cigarette.
My local tobacconist has this pipe tobacco blend called Sherlock's blend.Out of this world. Rich,hearty perfect for an autumn day.
Another favorite is called Butter Rum. Beautiful.
Like many different style of pipe. Bulldog shape probably favorite.
As over the counter as it is Captain Black does offer a fine blend of tobacco.
Yep there certainly is paranoia over smoking. Not every single person who smokes becomes a statistic. But no use trying to convince anyone of that.
Bebop
02-18-2006, 09:59 PM
I am an avid pipe collector and have whittled my collection down to about 75 or so pipes. I smoke at least one bowl a day and hardly ever more than 3 a day. Moderation is the key to enjoying tobacco. If I smoke too much in a day, I can't relax and taste the tobacco. The whole process and ritual of loading a pipe just right, carefully lighting it, watching the smoke gently float away, holding the pipe, all of that makes one relax and slow down.
I have never tried a clay pipe. It is one pipe that I have always wanted but just never purchased. I smoke out in public and have always thought that a clay is long and fragile and would not do well while driving or walking down a crowded street. I like meerschaum pipes and my current favorite pipe is a CAO meerschaum that is coloring quite nicely. Another of my favorite pipes is a Stanwell that I purchased about 20 years ago for $25. Stanwell makes a great pipe. Kirstens and Falcons are also some of my regular smokers.
My favorite tobacco is Dunhill 965 and believe it or not, good old regular Prince Albert which I buy super cheap at Wal-Mart. I think it is one of the best burley tobaccos out there at any price. I tend to like tobaccos that taste like tobacco not like cherry pie or something too sweet. Frog Morton is a wonderful tobacco that I also smoke regularly. I like the regular F.M. Dunhill Durbar is something I discovered a few weeks ago and find myself smoking more and more of it. Even though you find a favorite tobacco and pipe, I don't think you ever stop searching for a better pipe-tobacco combination.
Burma Shave
02-19-2006, 03:28 PM
... "I've always pined for a nice Dunhill briar. But like I said, I dont smoke often enough to warrant the price."
I understand what you're saying, but would disagree. I used to smoke a pipe much more than I do now, and when I smoked two or three bowls a day, the pipe itself was less important to me than the tobacco. Now that I'm down to one or two bowls a week, I've become more interested in the pipe. If you're going to only smoke occasionally, it may as well be a perfect experience when you do!
That said, my favorite pipe these days is a very nicely shaped Stanwell I purchased about 8 years ago for about $75. It's a simple briar with good grain and a thin agate ring between the mouthpiece and the wood.
Bebop
02-19-2006, 04:16 PM
Used Dunhill pipes are not that expensive on ebay. New ones can cost more than I like to spend on pipes.
Chad Sanborn
02-20-2006, 05:59 AM
I have a nice briarwood pipe myself. The one thing I struggle with is getting a good steady burn. It might be the tobacco, or it might be my inabillity to pack it right. What is the best way to pack it?
Chad
Fu Manchu
02-20-2006, 06:28 AM
I find packing difficult. I'm no expert, but in my opinion, it depends on the pipe and the tobacco. It's hard to get a burn that's both steady and cool.
I may be the last one to find this out, but I was just told that Dunhill has stopped making tobacco. I used to love their light flake, and I was always looking for a tin of navy rolls.
:sigh:
Fu Manchu
jake_fink
02-20-2006, 06:55 AM
I find pipes burn best (by which I mean they stay lit) if they are packed loose at the botton and tighter on top, though not so tight that you end up with a bottle cap of tobacco ( or whatever it is you're smoking. Banana leaves, cabbage leaves, rope, hair, etc.).
Pipes and cigars should not be smoked the way people tend to smoke cigarettes. They should be sipped, not gulped. They should be enjoyed and not just used for a fix.
I hate cigarette smoke, and the smell of stale smoke on clothes and furniture or someone's breath. I'm glad smoking's banned in most public places because most people who smoke are doing it just to feed their addiction, and act that way - lighting one off the other, having one lit just to have it there, smoking while drinking and eating, etc. There are a couple of tobaccanists in town where you can read a paper, smoke a cigar and have a coffee, which is nice. Since we had a kid I don't smoke in the house at all anymore (I used to be able to smoke in the office), so now I have a little gentleman's club set up in the garage. It suits me fine. I don't smoke pipes or cigars all that often, and I don't touch cigarettes.
Finally, the best tobacco I ever smoked was given to my by a freind in Washington DC, so presumably it was purchased there. It had a sticker on it that was printed with "Yachtsman" and had written in pen, "special blend." So, I have no idea what it really was called (and have never asked my friend - duh). It was beautiful, like smoking truffles, smooth and sweetish without being cloying the way some flavoured tobaccos are, and the smell was just fantastic, vanilla, roobois and a hint of citrus. Lovely stuff.
:cheers1:
Maj.Nick Danger
02-20-2006, 06:58 AM
......I just can't smoke now. If I smoked just one of anything,....I would start smoking like a chimney again! Too bad because I always loved the smell of pipe tobacco, burning or not. :cool2:
Nick Charles
02-20-2006, 07:12 AM
http://www.pipebears.com/pipeman.htm
Check out my pipes thread here http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?t=1442
Happy Smoking
Burma Shave
02-20-2006, 08:19 AM
...on this one: "I'm glad smoking's banned in most public places," but I don't want to hijack the thread. So I'll just note that smoking is also being banned by the government in many private places such as restaurants and bars, and that just ain't right. The fact that a practice is offensive to some should not mean that private property owners can't allow it.
On to something I can talk about here: Packing, as someone noted, isn't the easiest thing to gauge. Sometimes I still pack a pipe too tightly and have to dig out the tobacco and start over. But the process I use is pretty consistent. Here you go:
First, I fill the bottom one-half to two-thirds of the pipe with tobacco, fairly loosely, and pack it lightly so that it compresses by about half. Then I fill the pipe to the top, loosely, and pack that (still lightly) so that it compresses to about the two-thirds-full mark. Then I put more tobacco on top so that it mounds up just a little, and pack it a bit more tightly, so that it's just a little below the rim of the bowl. Try to get a smooth pack from side to side, not dished down in the center. If you use a pipe tool with a flat tamp, move it around the inside of the bowl so that you get all sides packed to about the same level.
The manner of lighting is as important as the pack. Using wooden matches only, when possible, light one and wait until the initial flare dies down before touching it to the tobacco, to avoid the taste of burning chemicals. Get the pipe well-lit, puff on it for a minute or so, then tamp it down after the entire top of the tobacco is lighted nicely. Most tobaccos will fluff up a little when being lighted, due to heat expansion and the combustion process. On this last tamp, keep the pipe in your mouth, drawing on it as you tamp. Hold the pipe with your "off" hand (I'm a righty, so I hold the pipe with my left) and tamp with your primary hand, to give better control. You should be able to tamp it while drawing so that you can tell when the draw is correct.
When in doubt, pack the pipe a little too loosely in the beginning stages, and correct the tamp after the initial lighting has been accomplished. I usually use another match after this last packing step, to ensure that the entire plug of tobacco is well-lighted.
Lastly, when the pipe is about a quarter smoked, then about half-smoked, tamp it again to compress the burnt portion. This will allow the pack to remain constant even after the burning process fluffs up the tobacco somewhat.
Always try to ensure that you smoke the entire bowl. If you don't, on a briar pipe (which is all I smoke) the bottom will not season and cake at the same rate as the top, and your smoke will be inconsistent. If a complete bowl is too much for you to smoke at a single time, don't be tempted to smoke only the first half -- or to pack only half the bowl, and smoke only that part. Instead, buy a pipe with a smaller bowl, and use it for the times when you have less available time or don't feel like a long smoke.
Over time, it gets to be second nature to get a good pack. But as I said, even now (after 12 years of pipe smoking) I still mess up the first time if it's a tobacco I'm not accustomed to. When that happens, use your pipe tool to dig out the tobacco and start over.
Best of luck.
StraightRazor
02-20-2006, 11:49 AM
I agree with the above method. One important piece of advice that always stuck out in my mind was not to overpack the bowl. Your not stuffing a turkey here! If the tobbaco is packed to hard they will be no small spaces for air to flow through allowing the tobbaco to burn properly. Gurgle is also a problem many new pipe smokers encounter, due to the fact that they are probably smoking a new pipe, and smoking it to fast. Treating it like a ciggarette, as you mentioned. Gurgle is, well, when you encounter the problem, you'll know what I mean. :) Just remember to take it slow and easy. Pipes are for relaxing, not getting a quick fix on your lunch break.
Marc Chevalier
02-20-2006, 12:29 PM
Some '20s - '50s estate pipes of mine. Nearly all are available for purchase. Interested, Bebop?
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Marc Chevalier
02-20-2006, 12:30 PM
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Green Miller
10-28-2007, 08:15 PM
New to the site. BTW, nice vintage pipes, Marc.
Love pipes, a cigar once in awhile especially when grilling. No cigarettes for me.
Been a Swing Dancer in the mid-90's on (a magical time it was, back in the mid-90's for those of us swingkids) and have been a pipe smoker since 2000. I have collection of 30+ pipes and my favorites are my "Playboy" pipe complete with bunny head on the stem and two Dunhill 197s from 1937.
My tastes are eclectic but I lean towards latakia mixtures and sometimes I like to try blends that have been around for awhile, like Revelation, which I transfer to an old pocket tin when on the town and wanting to look the part.
Mail order pipe giant Iwan Ries of Chicago recently revived one of their old mixtures. Hoping to get a tin soon:
http://www.iwanries.com/Spilman_Mixture_P7426C1492.cfm
Any more fellow brothers of the briar out there?
Anachronist
10-29-2007, 01:54 AM
I've been lurking forever, but this thread has finally pulled me out of hiding.
I'm a professional tobacconist and avid pipe smoker. I'm glad to see so many here that appreciate good quality tobacco here! I'm the resident pipe guy on a couple of other forums, and I always have to bite my tongue (fingers?) when people say they can only smoke the heavily cased sweet aromatics - as often as not, in the same breath as complaining about tongue bite and burn problems.
Frog Morton is definitely one of my favorites. Mac Baren does some good stuff too; scottish mixture is my daily smoke, and their Vintage Syrian (though pricey) is to die for.
Fu Manchu: "Dunhill", as such, hasn't made their own tobaccos in some time. The blends have been licensed to other blending houses for as long as many of us hav been alive. Recently, they switched blending houses (it is made by Orlick now). There were some initial jitters - pipesmokers are, understandably, often a traditionalist lot, and change is usually a bad sign in this industry - but it seems they are remaining true to the original blends.
Marc: You have some nice pieces there! I've always loved Porches (and their various befinned imitators), and I really dig that one second from the bottom. Maybe I'll post my collection some time when I get some spare time to photograph it...
Regards,
Alexander
eightbore
10-29-2007, 02:35 AM
]I dont see what the big deal is, if it's done in MODERATION. Most people in this country dont seem to be able to wrap their heads around that. Just like you can drink without being a drunk, you can smoke without being a chimney.
To heck with the "popularity" or "unpopularity" of smoking threads!
Outside the rhetoric of FL smoking discussions (indeed, outside all the silly societal propaganda on the topic), let's remember the 1964 study showing that pipe smokers live LONGER than the general public...or the study in 1978 that showed those smoking less than 4 or five bowls per day enjoyed an increased life span...or the Swedish study of twins illustrating that the pipe smoking twin generally outlived his (or her) sibling. The psychological benefits of pipe smoking FAR outweigh all (if any) of the physical risks. Its just not a "nervous habit" like cigarettes are and the personality type of the pipe smoker is completely different. This is the reality being captured by the studies above. It's not necessarily that the nicotine is healthy (though the example below shows that it can be), it's that people in this modern world need an excuse to slow the heck down and relax now and again! This is what's really healthy for us! Sadly, the modern world hates the idea with a passion! In fact, I think cigarettes themselves are the perfect accessory to a modern economic system. They're little more than portable and expensive speed delivery devices that will keep you producing output and also keep you unsatisfied enough to stay busy buying other people's output. Didn't Oscar Wilde actaully note that cigarettes are the perfect vice (and I think also therefore the perfect commodity) because they generate only dissatisfaction? In short, the modern industrial world hates a pipe smoker because he or she just doesn't value productivity enough and thus represents a revolutionary figure. Well, let me be the first to say it...VIVA LA REVOLUCION !
Finally, on a more personal note regarding the benefits of pipe smoking, I was diagnosed with lower GI ulcers when I was in grad school (lots of work, stress and dissatisfaction in my life back then). In the third year of my doctoral program, having never smoked cigarettes or anything, I started smoking a pipe for completely random reasons. Then I noticed something very unusual that I have since read is confirmed by medical research. My physician diagnosed, and supposedly "chronic", ulcer symptoms were becoming less obvious! I had previously been taking six high tech, whiz bang, new fangled prescription pills per day to the tune of nearly $200 per month. When I realized that the pipe enabled me to taper down my meds, I cut it to 4 per day, then two per day...then nothing. I haven't needed meds for my ulcers in almost three years now. I smoke maybe an average of only three bowls per day and therefore only buy $35 worth of Dunhill's Nightcap or 965 every couple months. Much better than spending $2400 per year for meds! Frankly, to hell with the pharmaceuticals industry, I'll support my local tobbaconist! The former has never (not even once!) provided me with nice overstuffed leather chairs, soft jazz in the background and a newspaper to read while consuming their overpriced garbage!
Given all of the above and the fact that smoking has also been shown to reduce the risk of Alzheimer's, anyone offended by my pipe can take a big fat flying leap! All us pipe smokers are very lucky that we'll be able to enjoy our "vice", live longer, live healthier, and to be able to remember our kids names when we're 95.....can't beat that. I feel outright pity for those having that weakness of character called "self denial". The world would be a much better place if everyone simply embraced their vices in moderation!
Best,
eightbore
P.S. If Dunhill pipes are pricey for you, check out the Ferndown brand. Les Wood, the owner and maker, used to be a silversmith for Dunhill and I actually like his pipes MUCH MUCH MUCH more. Best part...they're half the cost.
Michaelson
10-29-2007, 11:24 AM
Interesting you don't post the findings made AFTER 1978, which show the exact opposite results.....but that's just 'quibbling' on my part.lol ;)
After watching my Dad pass away as I stood by his bedside from lung cancer after being a pipe smoker of well over 50 years, I can attest to at least ONE data point that he lived a long life (80+ years), but his quality of life in the last 20 years have been less than great (lost all his teeth due to the heat from the pipe bowl), stomach problems, esophogis (sp?) ulsers, etc. but he smoked his pipes until the day they loaded him in the ambulance and took him to the hospital for the last time.
I guess it's all in how you want to read and believe the data.
Regards! Michaelson
Michaelson
10-29-2007, 11:49 AM
Oh, and just to make it clear, just because I had to watch my Dad die that way, I'm not one who 'blames the tobacco' for doing the deed. He made that choice, and who am I to condemn him for enjoying his vice? My Mom and sister don't understand my attitude, but that's the way it is. [huh]
I love the smell of a good pipe and cigar, but rarely indulge anymore, as I used to smoke both (one to the point of obsession), but gave it all just when our first daughter was born in 1980. I haven't regretted it one bit.
It's that old 'second hand smoke' thing that folks are up in arms about. I totally support anyone who wants to 'embrace their vice', be it overboard or in moderation....just don't force someone ELSE into having to 'embrace' that vice involuntarily.
Not trying to be a wet blanket here. Enjoy the pipe if that's your vice, and pleased to hear it's doing you good. Just understand others have rights too, and some do not choose to participate in that vice with you, especially those with breathing problems that are aggrevated BY having to breathe said second hand smoke.
Regards! Michaelson
Michaelson
10-29-2007, 11:57 AM
Some more recent findings:
Pipe smoking
Guess what? It's not good for you, either
By Helen Fields
8/24/04
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What they wanted to know: What are the risks of exclusive pipe smoking?
What they did: The authors used the Cancer Prevention Study II, an American Cancer Society study of about 1.2 million U.S. adults. Volunteers for the American Cancer Society recruited friends and neighbors for the study in 1982. The subjects filled out a questionnaire in 1982 that included questions about their smoking habits; since then, the American Cancer Society has kept track of death certificates for all the people. For this study, the researchers used the data on the 15,263 men who used only pipes and the 123,044 men who never used any tobacco products in 1982. Whoever designed the original survey must have assumed women didn't smoke pipes, because they weren't even asked the pipe-smoking question. The researchers looked at deaths from six cancers, coronary heart disease, stroke, and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.
What they found: Pipe smokers had higher death rates than nonsmokers, including higher death rates from lung cancer, colorectal cancer, and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.
What it means to you: This makes pipe smoking still a bit safer than smoking cigarettes but about as harmful as cigars.
Caveats: The people in this study were more likely to be white, middle class, and college-educated than the U.S. population as a whole. The pipe-smoking question was asked once, in 1982, so the subjects could have changed their habits between 1982 and death.
Find out more: Facts about lung cancer from the American Lung Association: http://www.lungusa.org/
Read the article: Henley, S.J., M.J. Thun, A. Chao, and E.;E. Calle. "Association Between Exclusive Pipe Smoking and Mortality from Cancer and Other Diseases." Journal of the National Cancer Institute. June 2, 2004, Vol. 96, No. 11, pp. 853–861
Regards! Michaelson
eightbore
10-29-2007, 02:11 PM
Very sorry to hear about your father. However, it sounds like you have a very healthy attitude about his passing. I just buried my grandmother (never had a vice in her 86 years) and her quality of life over the last decade was not the best either due to alzheimers and heart disease. It seems we risk our necks when we walk out the door these days. [huh]
As for general comments regarding recent studies (and I write this with the firm belief that there exist three types of lies.....lies, damnable lies, and statistics) I think finer distinctions need to be made. Example: Most studies don't generally make distinctions between inhalers and non inhalers. Historically, my guess is pipe inahalation was a major exception to the rule. As more people have moved from cigarettes to the pipe however (trying to quit, perception of it being better for you, etc.), inhalation habits were probably maintained. That might account for increased mortality and lung cancer rates among pipe smokers now inhaling in greater proportion. Further, the move of many from cigs to the pipe has likely changed the socio-economic features of the average pipe smoker effectively thus reducing the groups general access to preventative health care. It might also be interesting to know how this changing socio-economic composition of the population has impacted the relative mortality rates in concert with the simultaneous degradation of access to health care in the US over the last 25 years. hmmmm.....
I would be interested to know two things about the study you cite: 1) What was the life span differential...5 years, 1 year, two months? and 2) Was the difference statistically significant at an acceptable level ... 95%? 99%? only 90%? In other words, can we beleive the results or is there a decent chance the results are capturing random variation? Anyway, aside from all the methodological issues that will exist in any study, if one really wanted to have an impact upon mortality in America and thus reduce general health insurance costs, it might be a good idea to target obesity and fast food LONG before going after the pipe smokers. :) lol :) Further, Burger King counter folks are usually much less friendly than my pusher... err....tobbaconist. :) lol :)
As for second hand smoke, and to be totally frank, I'll start worrying about my second hand smoke on public streets when drivers of big SUVs start worrying about their diesel exhaust. Any scientist who thinks he can measure the cumulative impact of completely unpredictable and unmeasurable exposures to second hand smoke is now a theologian as he is really asking how many theoretical angels can dance on the head of a statistical pin.
Best Regards,
eightbore
Michaelson
10-29-2007, 02:24 PM
Thank you for your kind remarks about my Dad's passing, eightbore.
As I said, it's all about how one wants to read the data to come to a conclusion.;)
Regards! Michaelson
eightbore
10-29-2007, 03:19 PM
Not to be argumentative, and this is really just a mental exercise as it's late here and I can't sleep, but let's think about these stats. Assuming the article you cite is 100% valid and without any methodological flaws, there exists a 10/100,000 chance that a non smoker will develop (not die from...the odds there are 86%) lung cancer. Given the article you mention, the risk for pipe smokers in relation to non smokers is expressed by... relative risk [RR] = 5.00 at a 95% confidence interval. Note that this is the highest relative risk in the study for any disease discussed.
Anyway...
non smoker odds - 10/100,000 = .000100
pipe smoker - .95(50/100,000) = .000475
gen. public/smoker and non - about 1/14 = .071428
Obviously, the last stat is VERY influenced by the cigarette smokers. It may very well be 1/7 for that population specifically. Obviously, I am not too worried about this...one hundredth of one percent vs. less than five hundredths of one percent? 1/10000 vs 4.7/10000 for non smokers vs. the pipers? Yes, it's a major percentage increase, but the numbers just aren't big enough compared to the smoker/gen. public numbers to matter all that much to most. As you mention, everyone has the right to make their own decisions obviously, but we might ask what daily actions in our lives might completely overcome this theoretical risk? Seatbelts? Looking both ways crossing the street? Weekly exercise? Further, when you think about the theoretical impact of second hand smoke being a very small (and really unmeasurable, lets face it) portion of this discussed difference, it's hard to justify policy being directed here....unless it's not really about health. [huh]
Honestly, the more I read articles on any subject, the more I realize that statistics is all about persuasion and manipulating variables or methods to either increase or decrease the impact of a given identical result. Obviously, all of that garbage goes out the window when someone you love becomes one of the 4/10,000 or even one of the 1/10000. I had a beautiful, healthy, intelligent non-smoking friend die of lung cancer in 1997 (age 42). The disease took her in a few weeks after initial diagnosis. For her, it wasn't about smoking or not, it was about being a poor doctoral student who couldn't afford to see a doctor and thought her "bronchitis" would get better. :(
Best,
eightbore
Michaelson
10-29-2007, 03:27 PM
You're sure obsessing about this, aren't you?lol
I'm not arguing at all. I work at a University where statistics are taught on a daily basis. Statistics and data can be bent, twirlled and spun in any direction to prove any point wanted, as long as funding for research grants can continue to be awarded.
So, if you're happy with your results, fine by me. I don't buy it, but that's MY opinion based on the stats I've read.
Regards! Michaelson;)
Feraud
10-29-2007, 03:36 PM
I'm not arguing at all. I work at a University where statistics are taught on a daily basis. Statistics and data can be bent, twirlled and spun in any direction to prove any point wanted, as long as funding for research grants can continue to be awarded.
So, if you're happy with your results, fine by me. I don't buy it, but that's MY opinion based on the stats I've read.
Regards! Michaelson;) Well said. :eusa_clap
eightbore
10-29-2007, 03:42 PM
You're sure obsessing about this, aren't you?lol
I'm not arguing at all. I work at a University where statistics are taught on a daily basis. Statistics and data can be bent....
Yup, Insomnia has me in it's grip tonight. :) lol :)
I agree wholeheartedly with your assesment of stats. I think life can really be boiled down to the phrase "you buys your tickets and you takes your chances" at most times and with most things. Some people like motorcycles, some like hunting, some like smoking, some drinking, and some simply like doing nothing at all.....but over time the probability of survival for everyone reaches zero. :)
Best,
eightbore
Michaelson
10-29-2007, 03:48 PM
lol
Amen, Brother, and Amen!!!!:eusa_clap
HIGH regards! Michaelson
eightbore
10-29-2007, 04:08 PM
:D :D :D
Michaelson
10-29-2007, 04:11 PM
Yet another reason why I like stopping by the FL when I have the time.
You find folks like eightball that I would be MORE than happy to sit down and break bread with.
We agree, we disagree, and we leave the room still friends.
THAT'S the way the world SHOULD be!!!:)
My highest regards and respect, my friend!
Michaelson
Vintage Betty
10-29-2007, 04:21 PM
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http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b362/Veronicaparra/IMG_1092_edited-1.jpg
These are beaufiul...like works of art.
VB
eightbore
10-29-2007, 04:27 PM
You find folks like eightball that I would be MORE than happy to sit down and break bread with.
Eightball?!?!?! Hey, I shoot rifles...not billiards! :(
Just kidding.....Any time you want a meal or one of your rare cigars, you are welcome to visit "North of 60".
eightbore
Michaelson
10-29-2007, 04:33 PM
I shoot revolvers, so we're well matched.
If the opportunity arise, I'll definitely take you up on that invite!:)
Regards! Michaelson
jamespowers
10-29-2007, 04:34 PM
I was just risking my life last night---sitting next to the Wurlitzer listening to The Crewcuts and smoking my pipe filled with Argosy Black. ;) :p
Oh and I found this cleaning routine that has pretty much amazed me. To clean the bowl of a pipe, my friend advised me to get some non-iodized salt and some 90 proof or more alcohol---be it gin, vodka or whatever. Fill the bowl to about the same level as you would with tobacco---except with the salt. Then wet the salt with the high proof alcohol until it is good and saturated. Let it sit for a few hours. Did I mention plugging the shank with a piece of paper towel or such first? :eusa_doh: :D
After the time has passed, throw out the salt and alcohol and clean the pipe bowl as you would after tobacco. You will see the salt stained brown. It removed all the tar and gunk in my bowl back to as it was new. :eusa_clap It worked great.
A little rubbing compound to get rid of the brown oxidation on the pipe stem and it looked and smoked like new. Amazing what a little elbow grease can do to an old pipe. :cool2:
Regards to all,
J
SamMarlowPI
10-29-2007, 09:14 PM
i smoke a Dr. Grabow "Golden Duke" straight briar...i did research and all i found were "Golden Duke" in the bent briar...i dont think they sell the straight briar in the "Golden Duke" model...anyway its a nice pipe that suprised me when i bought a 30's pipe case and it was in there...i smoke Borkum Reef bourbon flavored tobacco that my father picked up and its not half bad but i need to do more looking for a better smoke...just my 2 cents :D
ThomasV
10-30-2007, 09:17 PM
I'm looking to purchase a pipe and some tobacco. I smoked a pipe when I was in college. Not your typical thing to do in the late 80's unless it had something else in the bowl. I love a pipe and have since stopped smoking a cigar or cigarette. I'd love to smoke a pipe and drink a scotch, as the two go hand in hand. Any ideas on the right pipe to use? I'm found of the English pipe that Sherlock smoked, but I'm torn between that and the 60's long narrow pipe used in the tv show Mad Men.
Ecuador Jim
10-30-2007, 10:26 PM
was his beloved Calabash. Those are great pipes. They have a meerscaum bowl, which provides a very cool smoke. I have a couple of bent stem briars, and a Kirsten.
The Kirsten is an odd design. A Boeing engineer was told by his doctor to quit smoking his pipe or die. He developed a new pipe, which does look like an engineer's design. It has a moisture reservoir, so the gurgle problem previously mentioned isn't a problem. The pipe is also modlular so if you mess up the bowl or other component, you can purchase a replacement. This Kirsten was developed in the 1930's and smokes quite cool, as does the meerschaum.
Green Miller
10-31-2007, 05:09 AM
Thomas V.: If you have a "brick and mortar" pipe and cigar shop near you that has a quality selection of pipes and tobacco, and someone who can help you, I suggest you go there. Brands that are good and that I started with are Savinelli and Stanwell. Pipe "seconds" from factories are great too. My first was a Savinelli "second" and I still smoke it now and then. Go with a straight pipe or a straight with a slight bend to it. Don't forget a pipe tool, pipe cleaners and matches! It will help you get used to the "mechanics" of smoking. Later on go for the calabash if you like!
SamMarlowPI
10-31-2007, 10:14 AM
"Goodnight Miss Calabash, wherever you are...":D
SamMarlowPI
10-31-2007, 05:27 PM
i forgot to mention i light my pipe with Fedora Lounge matches whilst drinking out of 1 of my 4 Fedora Lounge pint glasses :D :D
Bebop
10-31-2007, 06:39 PM
I was just risking my life last night---sitting next to the Wurlitzer listening to The Crewcuts and smoking my pipe filled with Argosy Black. ;) :p
Oh and I found this cleaning routine that has pretty much amazed me. To clean the bowl of a pipe, my friend advised me to get some non-iodized salt and some 90 proof or more alcohol---be it gin, vodka or whatever. Fill the bowl to about the same level as you would with tobacco---except with the salt. Then wet the salt with the high proof alcohol until it is good and saturated. Let it sit for a few hours. Did I mention plugging the shank with a piece of paper towel or such first? :eusa_doh: :D
After the time has passed, throw out the salt and alcohol and clean the pipe bowl as you would after tobacco. You will see the salt stained brown. It removed all the tar and gunk in my bowl back to as it was new. :eusa_clap It worked great.
A little rubbing compound to get rid of the brown oxidation on the pipe stem and it looked and smoked like new. Amazing what a little elbow grease can do to an old pipe. :cool2:
Regards to all,
J
Just a precautionary note on the salt and alcohol treatment. I have done it with no ill effects at all but a couple of pipe friends have had their bowls crack a few weeks after doing it. My guess is that they used too much alcohol and it dryed out the briar. [huh] I put it in the bowl drop by drop until I notice the salt has soaked it up. I have not even tried it in a Dunhill. I would hate to have a Dunhill crack. If anyone has any questions about pipes or wants to see some seriously beautiful works of art, try pulversbriar.com Marty owned Sherlocks Haven in San Francisco and is very knowledgable about pipes and tobaccos. When his shop was in S.F., I picked his brain and bought many pipes from him.
jamespowers
11-01-2007, 05:09 PM
Just a precautionary note on the salt and alcohol treatment. I have done it with no ill effects at all but a couple of pipe friends have had their bowls crack a few weeks after doing it. My guess is that they used too much alcohol and it dryed out the briar. [huh] I put it in the bowl drop by drop until I notice the salt has soaked it up. I have not even tried it in a Dunhill. I would hate to have a Dunhill crack. If anyone has any questions about pipes or wants to see some seriously beautiful works of art, try pulversbriar.com Marty owned Sherlocks Haven in San Francisco and is very knowledgable about pipes and tobaccos. When his shop was in S.F., I picked his brain and bought many pipes from him.
My guess is that they used rubbing alcohol. :eusa_doh: :p
You shouldn't smoke the pipe right after doing this either. Let it dry out a bit. I wouldn't smoke it too hot either. Then again, some people love burning out their pipes. :eusa_doh: :p
Regards,
J
Bebop
11-01-2007, 05:27 PM
The alcohol-salt treatment I have read about does use rubbing alcohol in very small doses. I use Everclear. I will try 90 proof next time I clean my pipes in Wa. since it's very difficult to find Everclear in Wa.
jamespowers
11-02-2007, 11:04 AM
The alcohol-salt treatment I have read about does use rubbing alcohol in very small doses. I use Everclear. I will try 90 proof next time I clean my pipes in Wa. since it's very difficult to find Everclear in Wa.
Everclear!? Isn't that rubbing alcohol? ;) :p
I used some cheap 90 proof gin. I think the name was Stanton's or some such thing. I have had it sitting around for a long time. I finally found a use for it since I will never actually drink it. :D
I could use 151 but I am saving that for myself not a dirty pipe.;)
Bebop
11-02-2007, 02:04 PM
Everclear!? Isn't that rubbing alcohol? ;) :p
I used some cheap 90 proof gin. I think the name was Stanton's or some such thing. I have had it sitting around for a long time. I finally found a use for it since I will never actually drink it. :D
I could use 151 but I am saving that for myself not a dirty pipe.;)
As far as I am concerned, it may as well be rubbing alcohol. People with a stronger constitution than I have, use it to mix drinks. For some reason, the state of Wa. thinks it's way too strong to sell to anyone as a mixer. It's readily available in Ca. liquor stores. I think it's just right for cleaning pipes. Way too strong for me to enjoy it as a drink. [huh]
I have not tried it but I bet using a good bourbon would impart the flavor onto the pipe and leave you with a sweet bourbon scent. There's a good reason to go out and buy a bottle of 151 Wild Turkey! :D
jamespowers
11-02-2007, 03:41 PM
As far as I am concerned, it may as well be rubbing alcohol. People with a stronger constitution than I have, use it to mix drinks. For some reason, the state of Wa. thinks it's way too strong to sell to anyone as a mixer. It's readily available in Ca. liquor stores. I think it's just right for cleaning pipes. Way too strong for me to enjoy it as a drink. [huh]
I have not tried it but I bet using a good bourbon would impart the flavor onto the pipe and leave you with a sweet bourbon scent. There's a good reason to go out and buy a bottle of 151 Wild Turkey! :D
I was thinking Bacardi 151 but that would be good too. :cheers1:
Edward
11-02-2007, 04:01 PM
There were no pipe smokers in my family in any generation I remember, but being something of an eccentric, I took it up for a few years at uni / early working days (this would have been about 96 through 2001). It was, like cigars at the time, a very occasional recreational thing for me. Gave it up years ago for one reason and another, but I do enjoy the smell of pipe tobacco - much more pleasant than many cigars, and all cigarettes. If only it did have health benefits for me, I'd likely take it up again in a flash, lol.
It facinates me how pipes are imbued with such a different social status than cigarettes, or (to a lesser extent) cigars. Pipes are associated with grandfathers, fine upstanding members of society, rugged but reliable men, whereas cigarettes nowadays are something villainous..... maybe partly because (leaving completely aside the passive smoking argument) pipesmoke is more pleasant to be around for the non-smoker? Or is it something as simple as pipes not being at all common, they don't attract the same negative press due to the damaging effects tobacco can have on health? Interesting. Of course, much of this also I think is affected by the way pipe tobacco is generally used: always seemed to me that whereas cigarettes are a habit which has to be fed, pipe-smoking is a hobby with the smoker deriving as much pleasure from the ritual as the actual smoke itself. I never heard of a pipe smoker rushing to light up as soon as possible in the morning either, lol.
SamMarlowPI
11-02-2007, 08:04 PM
well said Edward...especially with the status difference between the two...whenever i mention i smoking the occasional cigar and pipe i always get the same ol', "you know your increasing your chances of lung cancer?" and always from people who have to no clue how to light the end of a stick...i get tired of explaining you don't want to inhale pipe or cigar smoke but it becomes moot after so long...mouth and throat problems are more accurate lol ...anyways thats :offtopic: ...pipe and cigars are just for relaxing. like you said Edward, pipe enthusiasts are not up before dawn craving a pinch of tobacco...lol
ps- this is all my opinion folks :D
eightbore
11-03-2007, 01:24 AM
It facinates me how pipes are imbued with such a different social status than cigarettes, or (to a lesser extent) cigars. Pipes are associated with grandfathers, fine upstanding members of society, rugged but reliable men, ... Of course, much of this also I think is affected by the way pipe tobacco is generally used: always seemed to me that whereas cigarettes are a habit which has to be fed, pipe-smoking is a hobby with the smoker deriving as much pleasure from the ritual as the actual smoke itself. I never heard of a pipe smoker rushing to light up as soon as possible in the morning either, lol.
You are absolutely right! Pipe smokers represent a completely different personality type. They are generally more leisurely in their manner while cig smokers are always rushing...rushing to work, rushing to the car, rushing to get that smoke in before something or other which requires them to engage in more rushing. In contrast, pipe smokers are almost always the type that will take an hour out of work or play to pack a bowl, pre-light....maybe let it sit for 10 minutes while chatting....and then finally smoke. These folks are clearly the sort that most people would rather hang around with. They embrace the time and listen to others, they appreciate the world around them, they enjoy the process of living rather than only the final objectives or goals. More technically, I think the socio-economic "status" of pipe smokers is enhanced by the drawn out "conspicuous leisure" embodied in the process. Siumultaneously however, it is also a more frugal/practical practice than smoking cigars or cigarettes. It is much less expensive (I can buy a kilo of Dunhill 965 for around $60USD, try that with cigars or cigs) and is also not as wasteful of tobbacco as it actually allows the smoking of otherwise discarded cigar butts. I think this makes the "hobby" appeal to the "everyman" as much as the upper class and helps it resist elitist overtones associated with other habits. For every image of a snobbish dandy smoking his dunhill straight grain pipe, there is also an image of pipe smoking during Shackleton's expedition or of some Midwestern American farmer with a corn cob clenched in his teeth. In short, there is a wonderfully egalitarian spirit to pipe smoking as any of the above mentioned characters or groups are, and would likely perceive one another as, brothers of the briar.
JMHO,
eightbore
Bebop
11-03-2007, 09:07 PM
It is strange that when cigarette smokers find out I smoke a pipe, they usually tell me they think there is too much involved just to get a smoke from a pipe. I tell them that all the packing of the tobacco, tamping, gently lighting, puffing just right is part of the whole process. I don't think I would enjoy a pipe full of tobacco if it came pre-packed and there was no ritual in preparing to smoke involved. It all slows me down and relaxes me. I think I do more good to my spirit with pipe smoking than harm my body with the smoke alone. :)
SamMarlowPI
11-03-2007, 10:18 PM
cigarette smokers can't slow down enough to pack and light a pipe...they have to use their shaking hands to flick the lighter...lol lol...no offense folks
Green Miller
11-04-2007, 07:33 AM
Someone once compared, "Cigarettes are like TV, cigars are like movies and pipes are like books."
SamMarlowPI
11-04-2007, 09:54 AM
i like that comparison
scotrace
12-08-2007, 07:47 PM
I just ordered a tin of Mcclelland's Christmas Cheer. Anyone else tried the 2007 edition?
Nick D
12-09-2007, 07:13 AM
I've been a pipe smoker for the past several years. I do beleive in moderation, I usually smoke between one and four bowls a month (sometimes more, sometimes less). I've smoked a few cigars, didn't care for them much, and have never touched a cigarette.
Pipe smoking is very much a meditative thing for me. It's a good way to relax and take a moment out of an otherwise busy day.
I've been complimented several times by people passing by on my pipe.
I tend to smoke fairly inexpensive briars (though I'm picky about shape), but I have some nicer ones and non-briars as well that I usually use when I'm sitting on the back porch with a book on a lazy summer day. Especially my two gourd calabashes and my Stanwell HCA. I also have a long clay, which is a great smoke but not one I use much.
Nigel
12-09-2007, 11:50 AM
I just ordered a tin of Mcclelland's Christmas Cheer. Anyone else tried the 2007 edition?
I haven't ordered my tin yet this year. I usually order 2 tins, one to smoke right away and the other to smoke in 12 months time. With 12 months age on it, it is sublime. Initial reports suggest it is much like CC2006 but I cannot comment without having tried it.
To NickD: May I be so bold as to suggest a visit to SmokersForums (http://www.smokersforums.org/forums.php) a great online pipesmoking community. Plenty of wonderful people with a great collective knowledge.
BegintheBeguine
12-09-2007, 12:24 PM
Thanks! I've already gotten some good advice and I just popped in for a minute.
Ashley
Green Miller
12-09-2007, 05:57 PM
I just ordered a tin of Mcclelland's Christmas Cheer. Anyone else tried the 2007 edition?
Nigel, NickD and scotrace, I would also suggest visiting www.tobaccoreviews.com for more tobacco reviews.
Great to see so many brothers of the briar!
SamMarlowPI
12-09-2007, 06:04 PM
this thread just made me realize i haven't had a pipe in awhile...to the matches!
dostacos
12-09-2007, 07:19 PM
Oh, and just to make it clear, just because I had to watch my Dad die that way, I'm not one who 'blames the tobacco' for doing the deed. He made that choice, and who am I to condemn him for enjoying his vice? My Mom and sister don't understand my attitude, but that's the way it is. [huh]
I love the smell of a good pipe and cigar, but rarely indulge anymore, as I used to smoke both (one to the point of obsession), but gave it all just when our first daughter was born in 1980. I haven't regretted it one bit.
It's that old 'second hand smoke' thing that folks are up in arms about. I totally support anyone who wants to 'embrace their vice', be it overboard or in moderation....just don't force someone ELSE into having to 'embrace' that vice involuntarily.
Not trying to be a wet blanket here. Enjoy the pipe if that's your vice, and pleased to hear it's doing you good. Just understand others have rights too, and some do not choose to participate in that vice with you, especially those with breathing problems that are aggrevated BY having to breathe said second hand smoke.
Regards! MichaelsonI also quit when my kids were little, I started by smoking outside only {I used to sit on the patio and watch TV through the sliding glass door, cigar in one hand and a flyswatter in the other, take a puff then smack a June bug into the outer darkness of the back yard lol } then stopped totally when every cold I got turned to bronchitis, stopped smoking and solved that one. I love the smell of a GOOD cigar, and enjoy the pipe, but I do think when you are out and about you should be able to avoid the big blue clouds;)
Being from California, we have led the country in smoke free environments, though they are now getting a little to personal trying to ban smoking inside apartments etc.
eightbore
12-10-2007, 12:42 AM
though they are now getting a little to personal trying to ban smoking inside apartments etc.
Step by step....step by step.
Green Miller
12-10-2007, 04:34 AM
The Illinois statewide smoking ban starts Jan 1, 2008.
A number of my social cigar and pipe events will be dissolved because of it.
Like others who have posted, I enjoy an occasional pipe. Less occasionally a cigar. Pipes and cigars moreso in a social environment with friends. Never liked cigarettes.
Chad Sanborn
12-12-2007, 03:00 PM
I have been smoking my pipe for a while now. I light it up about 6 times a month. What is the best way to light it? Matches? lighter? I have a 'side lighter' that is made for pipes..
Chad
jamespowers
12-12-2007, 03:15 PM
I have been smoking my pipe for a while now. I light it up about 6 times a month. What is the best way to light it? Matches? lighter? I have a 'side lighter' that is made for pipes..
Chad
Big wooden kitchen matches that strike anywhere are the first thing I like to grab when lighting a pipe or a cigar. Sometimes I forget them and have to use either a pipe lighter as you described or regular wooden matches.
For me the wooden matches are the best. They impart no chemical residue to the tobacco. The bigger matches also keep your fingers from getting burnt as they take a while to get down that far--and a pipe might take 10-20 seconds just to get the first false light going.
I pass the match around the top of the tobacco to get an even light to all of the tobacco at the top after leveling it off.
:cool2:
CdnDandy
12-12-2007, 03:25 PM
The Illinois statewide smoking ban starts Jan 1, 2008.
A number of my social cigar and pipe events will be dissolved because of it.
Like others who have posted, I enjoy an occasional pipe. Less occasionally a cigar. Pipes and cigars moreso in a social environment with friends. Never liked cigarettes.
I feel your pain. Calgary and Airdrie (the cities I work and live in, respectively) have had non-smoking bylaws in place for a while, and the provincial ban goes into effect January 1, 2008. The only spot I smoke cigars anymore is with my father in his garage between halves of Monday Night Football.
What's Illinois say about private, members-only clubs being able to maintain a location where smoking would be allowed? I'm still trying to get a straight answer on that from my local representation. [huh]
Vintage Betty
12-12-2007, 04:03 PM
What's Illinois say about private, members-only clubs being able to maintain a location where smoking would be allowed? I'm still trying to get a straight answer on that from my local representation. [huh]
In my region in CA, there are at least 3 private cigar smoking clubs near me. One more club closed a couple years ago.
Bebop
12-12-2007, 05:30 PM
I have been smoking my pipe for a while now. I light it up about 6 times a month. What is the best way to light it? Matches? lighter? I have a 'side lighter' that is made for pipes..
Chad
You will find that everyone has their favorite fire to light a pipe. I use a Corona Old Boy lighter that has a tamper that slides into the bottom of it when I am indoors and my trusty Zippo pipe lighter that I bought in 74' while in the military when I am outdoors. Many don't like to use Zippos because they claim they can taste the lighter fluid but I can't taste it at all. I don't use wooden matches because they often go out or after lighting, I am stuck with the match to get rid of.
jamespowers
12-12-2007, 05:36 PM
I don't use wooden matches because they often go out or after lighting, I am stuck with the match to get rid of.
This is why we light a candle first. ;) You can relight the wooden match from the candle anytime you want to. Great to use along with one of those extra long fireplace matches and no waste after a few pipefuls. :D
KilroyCD
12-12-2007, 05:49 PM
This is why we light a candle first. ;) You can relight the wooden match from the candle anytime you want to. Great to use along with one of those extra long fireplace matches and no waste after a few pipefuls. :D
I smoke a pipe, but only at living history events. It would be a bit odd to walk around holding a lit candle....lol :D :p lol :D :p
Joe_Frances
12-12-2007, 06:37 PM
I remember the days, not that long ago, say ten years or less, when I could smoke my pipe without fear of castigation or dismissal, at work, mostly in the afternoons. Now I hardly smoke my pipes at all. I would love to smoke a pipe and listen to music and read. It would really help calm my nerves driving in the insanity of NYC traffic. I think the smell of quality pipe tobacco is one of the most wonderful things a person can smell. That's why I am now into fragrances, as I miss the richness of pipe tobacco. In fact, I want to get some pipe tobacco fragrance, I know there are a couple of them out there. Anyway, i keep my Castello and other lovely pipes for someday....
Bebop
12-12-2007, 07:19 PM
This is why we light a candle first. ;) You can relight the wooden match from the candle anytime you want to. Great to use along with one of those extra long fireplace matches and no waste after a few pipefuls. :D
That sounds like a nice ritual as long as you are home.
Nick D
12-13-2007, 03:49 AM
I have been smoking my pipe for a while now. I light it up about 6 times a month. What is the best way to light it? Matches? lighter? I have a 'side lighter' that is made for pipes..
Chad
I've got a modern Zippo pipe lighter and a Nimrod from the '50s, but my preference is wooden matches. I've also used burning coal from a blacksmith's forge and cinders from campfires. Think I'll stick with the matches.
eightbore
12-13-2007, 07:08 AM
DEFINITELY matches. Lighters (of almost any sort) add an element of modernity to the pipe smoking ritual that seems to take something from it for me. [huh] I'm not quite this bad but I actually know pipe smokers who collect particular matches that they like...just in case their favorite brand is discontinued. :)
jamespowers
12-13-2007, 10:16 AM
That sounds like a nice ritual as long as you are home.
Well yes, at home. :p I guess you could light it off a birthday cake's candles if you were out. :p ;)
scotrace
12-13-2007, 10:23 AM
I just ordered a tin of Mcclelland's Christmas Cheer.
And it is QUITE strong!
J.S.Udontknowme
12-13-2007, 10:54 AM
And it is QUITE strong!
I was thinking about ordering a tin, but I don't think I will now.:)
Bebop
12-13-2007, 11:06 AM
And it is QUITE strong!
Strong as in nicotine content or overpowering taste? Is this an english blend or more of an aromatic tobacco?
I like strong, english blends heavy with latakia and I am always willing to try what others consider "strong".
eightbore
12-13-2007, 11:11 AM
I was thinking about ordering a tin, but I don't think I will now.:)
EMBRACE the strength....you may like it (said the smoker of Dunhill's Nightcap self-blended with a bit more Latakia and Perique).
:D :D :D
eightbore
12-13-2007, 11:12 AM
Is this an english blend or more of an aromatic tobacco?
Friends don't let friends smoke aromatics....if I want a dessert, I'll buy some bloody ice cream!
J.S.Udontknowme
12-13-2007, 11:24 AM
EMBRACE the strenght....you may like it (said the smoker of Dunhill's Nightcap self-blended with a bit more Latakia and Perique).
:D :D :D
Nightcap is plenty strong for me. I usually smoke a bowl of it or Mississippi Mud every night. I smoke Frog Morton or Carter Hall during the day if I have time. I feel the same as you about aromatics.
Copper
12-13-2007, 11:34 AM
I feel your pain. Calgary and Airdrie (the cities I work and live in, respectively) have had non-smoking bylaws in place for a while, and the provincial ban goes into effect January 1, 2008. The only spot I smoke cigars anymore is with my father in his garage between halves of Monday Night Football.
What's Illinois say about private, members-only clubs being able to maintain a location where smoking would be allowed? I'm still trying to get a straight answer on that from my local representation. [huh]
There are private clubs able to provide a ppe and cigar smoking environment in the Calgary area... their strict adherence to the bylaws may be a bit suspect, but they seem to be carrying on at the moment.
Though it is on a hiatus at the moment (changing locations), there is a monthly pipe club in Calgary that has a reasonable following, where you can get together in a comfortable environment with a pipe, a dram of single malt, and some eccentric company.
CdnDandy
12-13-2007, 11:37 AM
There are private clubs able to provide a ppe and cigar smoking environment in the Calgary area... their strict adherence to the bylaws may be a bit suspect, but they seem to be carrying on at the moment.
Though it is on a hiatus at the moment (changing locations), there is a monthly pipe club in Calgary that has a reasonable following, where you can get together in a comfortable environment with a pipe, a dram of single malt, and some eccentric company.
Really? Any idea where I could find out more information about said clubs?
jamespowers
12-13-2007, 11:39 AM
And it is QUITE strong!
STRONG!? You must be kidding. :p Its a medium at best. A virginia flake tobacco is no match for actual strong like straight Perique.
Don't keep it around too long as it begins to start with a soapy taste after a few months of sitting around.
Some have complained to me about the "tongue bite" that it might have but I have never experienced this. Its a decent virginia flake like most of McClelland's other Virginias but it aint' strong. Try it for yourself and see.
Then again, I smoke Argosy Black so my opinion might be discounted by some. :rolleyes: :p
scotrace
12-13-2007, 11:54 AM
The Christmas blend is strong as in flavor. It's a little damp so I'll let it alone for awhile. It's a broken flake, and burned all the way through without a relight. I found it a little overpowering. I really haven't tried many (though all those from McClelland's that I have tried I've liked). The one I go back to most is Frog Morton. I like Latakia. Perique, not so much.
Bebop
12-13-2007, 12:05 PM
Friends don't let friends smoke aromatics....if I want a dessert, I'll buy some bloody ice cream!
Most aromatics are not for me but one I do like, although I am not quite sure it can be called a typical aromatic, is Rattray's Terry Red. It claims to be a cherry blend but in the typical Rattray tradition, it is smooth, mellow and has only a hint of any cherry with a touch of ginger. It makes non smokers in the room happy and you don't have to put up with the over the top sweet, acrid, hot and typical aromatic.
I have enjoyed a bowl or two of McClelland's Dark Star but only one or two bowls, once in a while is all I can take. It starts to become way too sweet to have as a regular. McClelland does aromatics well.
Nothing comes close to my beloved Pelican by Butera. Just the right amount of latakia. Cool, dry, total enjoyment. I'm starting to sound like a commercial for the stuff. :rolleyes:
Copper
12-13-2007, 12:32 PM
Really? Any idea where I could find out more information about said clubs?
My 'club' if you can call it that - its really quite informal, is at Cavendish and Moores. They are unfortunately in transition right now because of a forced move from the now demolished Penny Lane Mall into temporary lodgings on 11th Avenue, but usually every second Wednesday of the month pipe club runs from 6ish to 9ish. $5 gets you inside, access to a bottle of either decent single malt or a vintage rum, and an open go at usually between two and five tobacco selections. The company is quite varied but always interesting. I have seen nights get as crowded as 40+ people, but since Penny Lane went under the wrecking ball, it has been closer to 15 or so. There is even a well-regarded local pipemaker usually in attendance who will take requests for bespoke pipes. He made me a rusticated teardrop churchwarden with a mule deer antler ring in the shank that smokes very well and is gorgeous.
The Ranchmen's Club, to my knowledge, still has an operating cigar room, but I am not quite in such company to be a member there.
CdnDandy
12-13-2007, 12:38 PM
My 'club' if you can call it that - its really quite informal, is at Cavendish and Moores. They are unfortunately in transition right now because of a forced move from the now demolished Penny Lane Mall into temporary lodgings on 11th Avenue, but usually every second Wednesday of the month pipe club runs from 6ish to 9ish. $5 gets you inside, access to a bottle of either decent single malt or a vintage rum, and an open go at usually between two and five tobacco selections. The company is quite varied but always interesting. I have seen nights get as crowded as 40+ people, but since Penny Lane went under the wrecking ball, it has been closer to 15 or so...
I haven't been to C&M's new location yet, but I might have to make a date to visit on January 9th. Thanks for the info!
Copper
12-13-2007, 12:44 PM
I haven't been to C&M's new location yet, but I might have to make a date to visit on January 9th. Thanks for the info!
My pleasure - Always nice to see new faces at Pipe Club.
There is at least one other place in Calgary where you can buy a decent cigar and smoke it in a nice leather club chair, but where it is and its name escapes me at the moment (I am exclusively a pipe smoker, except when actually in Cuba). I will check with a friend of mine though and get that info for you.
SamMarlowPI
12-13-2007, 01:14 PM
Fedora Lounge match books work for me...
BigSleep
12-13-2007, 01:59 PM
I was at the Mooneyes X-mas party last weekend. For those who dont know, this is a hot rod and custom car show and drag. It's the scene that all the hipster hit! I saw more than one guy UNDER THE AGE OF 30 with pipes. Keep your eyes peeled. It think it'll be the next trend.
But then again, I'm the guy that said the TV show "Friends" would never fly.
jamespowers
12-13-2007, 02:45 PM
The Christmas blend is strong as in flavor. It's a little damp so I'll let it alone for awhile. It's a broken flake, and burned all the way through without a relight. I found it a little overpowering. I really haven't tried many (though all those from McClelland's that I have tried I've liked). The one I go back to most is Frog Morton. I like Latakia. Perique, not so much.
I am sending you a nice big suitcase of Perique as we speak. :p ;)
I stand corrected. It is a broken flake Virginia. :D
Although overpowering it ain't. You sure you want that tattoo? ;) :p
Regards,
J
Ian Dundrillon
12-19-2007, 03:31 PM
I really enjoyed seeing the pipe photos and hearing about favourite blends, pipe anecdotes, etc. However, I wish we could dispense with the "necessity" of giving a topic the p.c. treatment; ie. the annoying and usually pointless re-hash of heath concerns, tobacco politics, discrimination of some kind or another, etc. I have noticed this practice becoming more and more prevalent, especially in threads involving firearms, motorcycles, drinking, smoking and so on. I realise that everyone is entitiled to their opinion (and blah, blah, blah) but is it really necessary, much less desirable to sap all the fun out of a topic? I feel we get enough of that everywhere else; we don't need it here in the F.L.
That having been said, here is some of my "pipe stuff". I enjoy pipes, pipe smoking and the company of pipe people. Please, however, check your hat and your "p.c." at the door. Thank you.
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii243/IanDundrillon/Den013.jpg
Pymander
12-19-2007, 04:02 PM
Hi all!
I've been smoking a pipe for a few years now, and have been lurking on FL for a number of months. Mr Dundrillon, I love your pipe-smoking setup. I probably smoke an average of a bowl a day -- during the work week I don't always get a chance to smoke, but I usually make up for that on the weekends. I've got a very small collection of pipes, but it includes a long Dutch-style clay pipe and an inexpensive but ornate meerschaum.
My favorite blends are typically English or Orientals. I love latakia and perique, and lately have really been enjoying Ashton's "Consummate Gentleman" and GL Pease's "Blackpoint". However, my favorite fallback has got to be Rattray's "Accountant's Mixture", which has a medium amount of good English blend flavor and one of the dullest names I've seen. I buy it in the big tins.
It's great to see that some of you FLers are pipe smokers. I knew you guys were all right.
jamespowers
12-19-2007, 04:45 PM
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii243/IanDundrillon/Den013.jpg
That is a nice freehand pipe. :cool2: Who is the maker?
Ian Dundrillon
12-21-2007, 03:40 AM
Dear Pymander,
It seems we have similar tastes in pipe tobacco, as I am also fond of latakia. I find the inclusion of perique to be kind of tricky; a little goes a long way.
For the past few years I've been smoking straight Syrian latakia which I buy in bulk. It kind of looks like Irish peat, but smokes great.
If you like, as I do, Rattray's Accountant's Mixture, you might want to try their Highland Targe or Red Rapparee. About the "dull name", remember what Monty Python said, "Chartered accountancy is not dull".
Best regards, Ian
Ian Dundrillon
12-21-2007, 03:51 AM
Dear jamespowers,
This is my favourite freehand. The photo is not a good indicator of its size;
it is a big monster, definitely hand held only, unless you have jaws like Godzilla. I got it at the Pipe Dan shop in Copenhagen, but the maker is German--Schlicter. This is the only one of this particular brand I've encountered.
Best regards, Ian
eightbore
12-21-2007, 07:13 AM
Dear Pymander,
For the past few years I've been smoking straight Syrian latakia which I buy in bulk.
Given that you use the present tense above, might I ask where you find this? Rare commodity these days. PM me if you wish to keep your source relatively secret.
Thanks,
eightbore
jamespowers
12-21-2007, 10:38 AM
Dear jamespowers,
This is my favourite freehand. The photo is not a good indicator of its size;
it is a big monster, definitely hand held only, unless you have jaws like Godzilla. I got it at the Pipe Dan shop in Copenhagen, but the maker is German--Schlicter. This is the only one of this particular brand I've encountered.
Best regards, Ian
Nice. That is the first time I heard of that name as well. However, I have seen many freehand pipes made in Denmark and Isreal. Unfortunately the Shalom brand closed a few years ago. :(
Regards,
J
Pymander
12-21-2007, 11:21 AM
It seems we have similar tastes in pipe tobacco, as I am also fond of latakia. I find the inclusion of perique to be kind of tricky; a little goes a long way.
For the past few years I've been smoking straight Syrian latakia which I buy in bulk. It kind of looks like Irish peat, but smokes great.
Wow, straight latakia? I'm not sure I could handle that. But I do enjoy Samuel Gawith's "Balkan Flake", which I believe is around 30% latakia. And where in the world are you getting Syrian latakia in bulk!?! That's awesome! I'd love to get some, just to make my own blends.
If you like, as I do, Rattray's Accountants Mixture, you might want to try their Highland Targe or Red Rapparee. About the "dull name", remember what Monty Python said, "Chartered accountancy is not dull".
Red Rapparee is also one of my favorites, but I'm taking a break from it at the moment as I smoked through a ton of it.
-- Pymander
Ian Dundrillon
12-21-2007, 01:17 PM
Here is some of my infamous straight latakia. The colour
in the photo is somewhat deceiving. It is actually a very
dark brown,almost to the point of appearing black; somewhat
similarto the extra maduro or oscuro of cigar wrapper tobacco.
My experience is limited, but my supply has always been
rather moist but easily packable, smooth burning and with
no residual moisture, vis a vis the nasty "gurgle", associated
with some of the aromatics.
I have not found that this moisture level in any way affects the
freshness or shelf life of the product.
Ian
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii243/IanDundrillon/Tobacco001.jpg
Pymander
12-21-2007, 02:37 PM
Please excuse the double post. I have no earthly idea what I'm doing.
It's a bit blurry, but good looking stuff. I've tried straight latakia and straight perique before. They were both pretty rough. I've been considering trying some rum-soaked perique as per Aleister Crowley's favorite smoke, but I'm not sure I've got the cajones for it.
-- Pymander
Ian Dundrillon
12-21-2007, 07:03 PM
Dear Pymander,
Normally, I would say go for it, but rum-soaked straight perique? I have been a doc for many years and I would definitely classify this as a controlled substance. But , what the hell, go for it anyway. Let us know how it works out.
Ian
Badluck Brody
12-21-2007, 08:55 PM
Well for Christmas my buddy from work hs me drop by and gives me a bottle of enhanced brandy. He suggests it should be heated and sipped and it would be great with a pipe or ciger. Unfortunately I didn't have a pipe and really don't smoke cigars....
"Well we'll have to remedy that!" he says
Next thing I know I'm the proud parent of my 1st pipe pipe!
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/jeffradaj/1Pipe72dpi.jpg
He also threw in a tester pouch of Private Stock Sunset Rum, and some pipe cleaners... What a helluva guy eh!!
Ian Dundrillon
12-21-2007, 09:28 PM
Dear Badluck Brody,
Be careful when heating liquor. Although not very classy or traditional, using
a microwave is much safer than flaming; also less chance of degrading the spirit. Congratulations on your first pipe. It looks like a Peterson. All of my Petersons are quite old and have Vullcanite bits. These tend to get rather nasty looking over time. If this should prove to be the case with yours, simply take it to a pipe shop and have them buff it on a bench lathe. This will restore the lustre. Enjoy.
Best regards,
Ian
Badluck Brody
12-21-2007, 10:26 PM
You are absolutely correct, it is a Peterson!
And thanks for the advice, I've already been kicked out of the house after only a couple minutes. But I can see where a good pipe once in a while can be quite relaxing and somewhat therapeutic when your nerves are fried from work and the daily grind.
The Brandy I mentioned is a seasonal mix with chocolate and something else, it was really pretty good. Which might have been how that pipe mysteriously became lit...???
Cheers!
jamespowers
12-28-2007, 11:23 AM
Dear Pymander,
Normally, I would say go for it, but rum-soaked straight perique? I have been a doc for many years and I would definitely classify this as a controlled substance. But , what the hell, go for it anyway. Let us know how it works out.
Ian
A Controlled Substance?! More like the crack of tobacco. :eek: :p
Ian Dundrillon
12-28-2007, 12:52 PM
Well said; kind of like Ron Zombie meets Alfred Dunhill.
DerMann
09-13-2008, 11:50 PM
Our school has a cigar and pipe club, and I stopped by out of curiosity. One of the members let me try a briar pipe with some sort of English tobacco, and after I got used to it, I really enjoyed it.
I've been toying with the idea of pipe smoking for quite some time now, and I really think I'd like to kick it off this year. I've read all of the health risks and other hazards associated with smoking, and I don't plan on smoking more than a bowl (maybe two tops) per day.
Onto the actual post.
I want to have at least two pipes. The Peterson system No. 315 and a Butz Choquin Meerschaum lined Calabash are the contenders for my money at the moment.
As for tobacco, I've read through a bunch of reviews and settled on a good variety representing Virginian, English, and aromatic tobacco. List as follows:
Peterson Irish Flake
Peterson University Flake
Peterson Sherlock Holmes
Dunhill Royal Yacht
Dunhill London Mix
Dunhill Standard Mix Medium
Samuel Gawith Squadron Leader
Samuel Gawith Full Virginia Flake
From what I've read, it's a good range from mild to potent stuff. If anyone has any recommendations for a good English tobacco, I'd be glad to hear them.
My question is this:
Would it be necessary to use a separate pipe for Virginian and English blend tobaccos? Another pipe is a financial possibility, but I'd like to keep cost down to a minimum.
For this third pipe I have my eye on the La Rocca Rotunda 698 (basic straight stem pipe).
Personally, I don't like the look of corncob pipes, as they impart a drastically rustic air that I would like to avoid, and yet I understand that they are ridiculously cheap. Likewise goes for meershaum pipes, they look too fragile to use.
Another question I have is this:
Is it difficult to light a pipe whilst outside using matches? Loving all things vintage, having a match safe with strike anywhere(!) matches in lieu of a lighter appeals to me.
Think that's all for now...
-DerMann
Nick D
09-14-2008, 03:34 AM
Outside with matches is the only way I light my pipe anymore. If it's too windy to get the pipe lit with the match sheilded with your hand, I consider it too windy for an enjoyable pipe.
Delthayre
09-14-2008, 10:36 AM
I own a Peterson New Standard that I very much like, so consider that a tacit suggestion that you buy the No. 315. I have never smoked a Meerschaum pipe, so I cannot recommend anything about them and from what I understand, most people use corncob pipes only for testing new blends. Unless the Butz-Choquin is a genuine gourd calabash pipe, I recommend that you buy something else, unless you like the shape of it, also be wary as the meerschaum in that pipe is likely compressed meerschaum, made of bits of the stuff forced together in a mold, rather than carved from a block.
As for tobacco, I suggest that you not smoke Dunhill Royal Yacht: it has, unless the mixture has changed, a very strong nicotine effect, after smoking a bowl of it, I sometimes had trouble walking. I do approve of the Standard Mixture and I think that Peterson makes rather good tobaccos, for a short while their Sweet Killarney was my standard blend, however if there is a tobacconist near you, I suggest that you investigate to see if they sell any bulk tobacco or their own blends, as those are often cheaper than the tinned tobaccos.
Matches can be a bother to use in the wind, sometimes they are extinguished immediately after you strike them, sometimes if one turns one's back to the wind and hunches over a little, especially if one is in various dimensions comparatively broadly build, it is possible to light a pipe even as a it blows, but it tricky even then.
DerMann
09-14-2008, 11:17 AM
Delthayre,
I've read nothing but good things about Peterson pipes and their system, I'm glad to hear it from an FL member, though. As I understand, from reading the description on several pipe sites, the Butz-Choquin calabash is actual gourd. I've only been able two or so reviews, and they're both very positive (one on the site where I'll be buying the pipe, and another on the smokersforum, I think).
I haven't read much about pressed meerschaum vs. block meerschaum, other than pressed is basically inferior. Is it bad enough to ruin a smoke? Would it be possible to tell from pictures if it is pressed? Doubt it, but always worth asking :)
Thanks very much for your response.
Nick D,
That's actually a fairly good rule of thumb, never thought of it like that. Thanks!
John Boyer
09-14-2008, 11:38 AM
In reference to your first question, as a general rule, I prefer to have one pipe dedicated to each of my favorite blends: Virginia, English and a Cavendish. My all time favorite blend is a Virginia: Ashley's #2. In reference to your second question, I find I nearly impossible to light my pipe with matches while outside; unless it is a very calm day. I do a lot of pipe smoking outside and have never been successful or patient enough to use matches.
DerMann
09-14-2008, 11:57 AM
Right, well the general consensus on the smokersforum has been to get a separate one as well, so I'll drop the $50 or so for the third pipe.
I just found this image, too:
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/1682/gourdsm3.jpg
So it is real gourd and block meerschaum - looks like good stuff :D
Delthayre
09-14-2008, 03:38 PM
That's really a lovely pipe, I wasn't even sure that any companies were still making pipes like that. My reservations are certainly assuaged.
I don't know if you had thought the matter or not, but if you are going to smoke pipes, you would do well to own a pipe tool (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pipe_tool) as they are of immense utility in smoking a pipe. I suggest that you purchase a few basic, inexpensive ones. Whilst Dunhill, Savinelli and others manufacture beautiful, elegant-looking pipe tools, a good tobacconist will likely have some basic steel ones that are damned near indestructible that cost fractions of the prices charged for the finer ones. So long as it has a tamper, scraper and pick, it should suffice.
DerMann
09-14-2008, 04:00 PM
Apparently Butz Choquin is the only company producing authentic calabash pipes anymore. There are mahogany "calabash" pipes, but they're much heavier (from what I've read) and they use compressed meerschaum bowls. The shape just screams contemplation and enjoyment.
Yeah, I settled on the cheap $1 "Czech" pipe tool. Most places offer wood/steel pipe tools, but most people I've seen (on YouTube) just use the little Czech ones. They're cheap, so they're also easy to replace should one lose it or break it.
I think I may skip matches and go with an IMCO Super Triplex lighter, as they've been around longer than Zippo and look very interesting (not to mention CheaperThanDirt has them for less than $6 a piece!).
Thanks for your help.
-DerMann
*EDIT*
One last thing. The IMCO lighter needs lighter fluid, and I've read that most over the counter stuff is low quality, and that one should strive for at least "triple refined" fluid. How common is the stuff? Will Walgreen or Wal Mart have it, or would it be best to find a Zippo outlet or tobacconist?
rikrdo
09-15-2008, 12:51 AM
Couple of things:
I agree that you should avoid Royal Yacht, at all costs. Tasteless and full of nicotine.
Also, I would recommend trying just 1 flake or waiting all together for awhile....they can be quite troublesome. Hard to keep lit and a lot of potential tongue burn from the VA's.
The Peterson "p-lip" stem is another point for discussion.
Ive had 2 and, although the pipes were good smokers, I never liked the fact that the smoke hit the roof of my mouth and not my tongue. The fishtail stem would be the type I would suggest.
Tobacco recommendations:
Anything by GL Pease is great.
Piccadilly is a very nice English and not too much Latakia.
MacBarens Burley London Blend is a super nice, easy to smoke burlay that will give you a good idea of what the weed should taste like.
Im sure theres much, much more but.............
Oh yeah.
Check out www.pipes.org
for a bunch of great info and advice.
Good luck
Miles Borocky
09-15-2008, 04:27 PM
I cannot recommend enough Dan's Blue Note, one of the loveliest aromatics in my rotation. Imagine a tobacco that tastes like a decadent rum-and-raisin dessert, but without being cloyingly sweet as many flavored aromatics are.
Warning though: this tobacco is about to be discontinued; for the time being you can still find it on some online tobacco sites. Do a google search.
PADDY
09-26-2009, 05:58 AM
What a fine figure this lady cuts..!
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/ROSSANDHARRY/GARBO002.jpg
Smithy
09-26-2009, 07:40 AM
One of the nicest things you can do with a new pipe is rub the inside of the bowl with a good quality honey. Let it absorb the honey for about 2 weeks and then light her up.
It's an old trick my father picked up when he was in the RNZAF just after the war. And it works, I do it with any new pipe. Sweetens the bowl.
EDIT: And I cannot believe so many people dislike Dunhill Royal Yacht. It's one tobacco I really like. It's certainly got a bit of oomph but I find it very rounded and and full flavoured. Saying that, I do like strongish tobaccoes.
Marc Chevalier
09-26-2009, 09:02 AM
Wait until a vintage unopened can of Balkan Sobranie shows up on eBay, then bid like heck on it. The finest pipe tobacco blend I've ever had, bar none. Too bad it's no longer made!
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John Boyer
09-26-2009, 09:28 AM
Wait until a vintage unopened can of Balkan Sobranie shows up on eBay, then bid like heck on it. The finest pipe tobacco blend I've ever had, bar none. Too bad it's no longer made!
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Marc,
Have your tried the Balkan Sasieni blend? Some of the pipesmokers at www.tobaccoreviews.com consider this a close match and, as you would expect, some don't. As I have smoked neither, I am not a qualified judge. But I do enjoy this website.
John
Kid Mac
09-26-2009, 10:06 AM
DerMann,
Welcome to the brotherhood of the briar.
If you're interested in English mixtures, you might consider Esoterica tobaccos. Esosterica Margate is a superb English (though a bit strong for some). Esoterica Pembroke is Margate married with Cognac, resulting in a smoother smoke. Esoterica Penzance is, IMHO, the finest English flake. You might, if you haven't already, check out Tobacco Reviews http://www.tobaccoreviews.com/ and the professor's pipe page http://pipes.priss.org/.
Also, if you're interested in a pipe lighter, consider a zippo pipe lighter. It's just like the standard zippo except there is a hole in the wind screen enabling one to hold the lighter horizontal to the pipe and draw the flame downward. This helps you avoid scorching the pipe's rim.
Finally, when I first started on the road to briar bliss, Max Schulte, of Schulte's pipes, recommended using a bit of grenadine to coat the inside of a new pipe to accelerate cake build up and to sweeten the pipe. Similar to the honey but less viscous.
Cheers,
Mac
newspapercowboy
10-28-2009, 05:03 PM
I've smoked a pipe since I was 15...I'm 52...I have about 125 pipes...its the best way to smoke imho
Levallois
10-30-2009, 08:42 AM
I've started smoking a pipe again after several years off. I don't know why I stopped but I started again for the relaxing nature of the act of smoking a pipe. I've found a couple of tobaccos that I like, both from Pipeworks &Wilke - Vermont Maple and the Rumcake. Sweet smokes but not overwhelming and, more importantly, not "wet." I tried delving into the non-flavored tobaccos the first time around but I don't enjoy them as much. Good luck with your search and welcome to the pipe-smoking club.
John
Geesie
10-30-2009, 01:19 PM
Don't discount the corncob pipe. You may find yourself on a camping trip or at someone's cabin by a lake and wish you had a "rustic" pipe with you.
Also for lighting, you can look for a Nimrod pipe lighter on eBay.
http://www.tias.com/stores/ladifference/thumbs/t1788a.jpg
For tobacco, I recommend going to a tobacconist and looking through their jars of tobacco for something that looks, feels, and smells good to you. A good tobacco shop will have a good, helpful owner.
quickerNu
10-30-2009, 01:31 PM
I enjoyed a new 6 dollar corncob while camping before a SASS (cowboy action shooting) meet last weekend. No biggie if it gets lost or damaged, and period appropriate!
Bustercat
11-30-2009, 11:41 AM
One of the nicest things you can do with a new pipe is rub the inside of the bowl with a good quality honey. Let it absorb the honey for about 2 weeks and then light her up.
It's an old trick my father picked up when he was in the RNZAF just after the war. And it works, I do it with any new pipe. Sweetens the bowl.
I'd be careful what you plan to smoke out of it. I've never had good luck with honey in a bowl for english blends, even to break it in. Just an unpleasant, not sweet flavor for me that takes weeks to leave.
I've had much better success swabbing pipe with scotch after cleaning it with my cleaning solution (90% isopropyl).
It tastes great.
Nick D
12-01-2009, 12:09 AM
I've had much better success swabbing pipe with scotch after cleaning it with my cleaning solution (90% isopropyl).
It tastes great.
I've used a good blended (won't use the single malt) and sea salt to sweeten a couple pipes that have gone sour. Add to that I usually smoke Mac Baren's Scottish Mixture, and the first bowl after cleaning is very nice indeed.
SmokeyWw
01-17-2010, 09:55 PM
From your list of tobaccos to try, Peterson's Irish Flake and Samuel Gawith's Full Virginia Flake are a couple of my favorites. For someone new to pipe-smoking however, I would caution that smoking flake-style tobaccos is just a bit different.
I have about 50-60 pipes currently, but I've only recently acquired my first Peterson System pipe. I like it a lot. It takes just a bit more effort to clean after each smoke, but it really does deliver a cool dry smoke -- which is what the "system" was designed to do.
I absolutely love that BC calabash you posted. I have one gourd calabash (I'm smoking it now with a bowl of Gawith & Hoggarth Dark Flake Unscented) but it's nowhere near as nice as that Butz. Smoking a calabash is different than smoking your briar pipe. The well-seasoned briar pipe will add a certain something to the flavor of your tobacco that the meerschaum bowl of the calabash will not. The large, hollow body of the gourd on the 'bash will cool, dry, and mellow the smoke. Depending on the tobacco and your particular taste that may be a good or bad thing. I only smoke strong tobaccos like this Dark Flake or SG 1792 in the calabash. I don't want it taking away anything from the flavor of favorites like Full Virginia Flake. Irish Flake might make a good calabash smoke, but it tastes too good in a briar and costs too much for me to experiment. (If it ain't broke...)
Yes, I would recommend having separate pipes for different types of tobaccos. Some people dedicate a pipe to a particular tobacco. (I do have one Lasse Skovgaard that is dedicated strictly to Full Virginia Flake.) Some dedicate to different tobacco families (one for burley, one for Virginia, etc.). I do it a little more simply than that (with few exceptions). Aromatics in some pipes, stuff with latakia in others, and none of the above in most of them. I don't have a problem with smoking Virginias, Virginia/Perique blends, and burley blends in the same pipes. I just don't want to smoke a latakia bomb or cherries jubilee in that pipe.
I wish you the best in your undertaking of this most enjoyable and relaxing hobby. If you have any questions, you can feel free to ask.
Above all, pipe-smoking isn't easy. There's a learning curve. Packing and tamping and the cadence of puffing and cleaning and resting and rotating and on and on takes a little time to get right. Pipe-smoking is best learned unter the eye of an experienced pipe guy. Lacking a personal pipe mentor, your best bet would be to join a friendly and helpful online pipe group full of people with lots of information to share.
Almost since I started smoking my pipes, I've been a member of Smokers Forums (http://www.smokersforums.co.uk), and I can heartily recommend it for a place to learn, make friends, and discuss various pipe and tobacco issues. There may be other good info sites as well, but I'm most familiar with SF.
Happy puffing!
Green Miller
01-19-2010, 07:52 AM
Try Spilman Mixture at www.iwanries.com of Chicago. A good solid english mixture. It's a revival of one of their old brands and even comes in a cool repro vintage can and is a good value.
They have a great mail order business so give them a try.
Bustercat
01-20-2010, 11:40 AM
Recently put one of those thunderbird butane inserts into my zippo (the one on the right, but the pipe version with a hole on the side), like night and day over the new "odorless" zippo fluid.
http://www.thetobaccoshop.com/Lighters/KGM/pics/Thunderbird_Insert.jpg
Review:
NTGGIGUY-H4
It's fantastic, reliable (thought not as resistant to wind).
Ethan Bentley
01-20-2010, 01:07 PM
Recently put one of those thunderbird butane inserts into my zippo (the one on the right, but the pipe version with a hole on the side), like night and day over the new "odorless" zippo fluid.
It's fantastic, reliable (thought not as resistant to wind).
That's a neat little video, thanks for sharing.
I've got a similar Zippo and you're right it is very useful. Matches are a particular problem in the UK now with the smoking ban and I wouldn't use a regular lighter.
Skred
02-07-2010, 06:48 PM
Which Sobranie's are the white unfiltered type?
I had some many years ago and like them.
Nick D
02-08-2010, 01:25 AM
That's a neat little video, thanks for sharing.
I've got a similar Zippo and you're right it is very useful. Matches are a particular problem in the UK now with the smoking ban and I wouldn't use a regular lighter.
I haven't noticed a problem, other than regular boxes of matches being difficult to find (I did find them at Wilkos).
Hi, I've got a few question about smoking a pipe.
First an observation; I can't stand the smell and taste of Cigarette and Cigar smoke. I LOVE the smell of pipe smoke but have never tried it.
Does pipe smoke taste as good as it smells or does it taste the same as cigars and cigarettes?
I've smoked some Orange tobacco through a hookah about a year ago and actually found it quite nice. Is it similar to that?
Marc Chevalier
03-03-2010, 11:24 AM
Does pipe smoke taste as good as it smells ...?
Sad irony: the "nicest"-smelling pipe tobaccoes (called 'aromatics') are the worst-tasting, while the harsher-smelling ones can be the best-tasting.
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No. Even so, it still tastes pretty good.
Sad irony: the "nicest"-smelling pipe tobaccoes (called 'aromatics') are the worst-tasting.
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Thanks Marc,
After spending a brief time doing some quick research, it seems like quite an investment to even give it a try.
Thanks Marc,
After spending a brief time doing some quick research, it seems like quite an investment to even give it a try.
It is not really that much of an investment. If you have a tobacconist near by, just stop by and pick up a corncob for a couple bucks, and a couple ounces of one of their house blends. Total cost: <$10.
Cobs actually smoke rather well, and the tobacconist can point to towards a good baccy to get started.
Nick D
03-03-2010, 01:06 PM
Sad irony: the "nicest"-smelling pipe tobaccoes (called 'aromatics') are the worst-tasting, while the harsher-smelling ones can be the best-tasting.
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A lot of aromatics don't so much give you tongue bite as chew your tongue and spit it out.
I find a straight cavendish is pleasant for both taste and smell.
Initial outlay can be lessened by buying a cob as Yeps said, and even when you move on to a more expensive pipe, you only need to buy it once. And a pouch of tobacco can last a while if you smoke moderately.
I see a lot of pipes in antique shops, are they trash or worth the effort?
Marc Chevalier
03-03-2010, 02:28 PM
I see a lot of pipes in antique shops, are they trash or worth the effort?
They can definitely be worth the effort, depending on their condition, quality, rarity, and restoration prospects.
Unless completely disposable and/or of really junky quality, vintage specimens tend to be called 'estate pipes' by sellers. A bit of jargon for you.
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Thanks for the information everyone, I think I'll take your advice and give it a try, although the idea of smoking a corn cob pipe does conjure up visions of dueling banjos and sqealing pig sounds.
Marc Chevalier
03-03-2010, 02:55 PM
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Some corncob pipes look better than others. I think these ones are fine:
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u290/crosby_square/corncobpipe.jpg
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They can definitely be worth the effort, depending on their condition, quality, rarity, and restoration prospects.
Unless completely disposable and/or of really junky quality, vintage specimens tend to be called 'estate pipes' by sellers. A bit of jargon for you.
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So provided I see a pipe in an antique store that appears to be of good quality and no obvious flaws, how do I know it's worth picking up? Are there certain brands that I shouldn't pass up? Even if I don't enjoy smoking, one or two sitting on a shelf would look pretty cool in my man room.
Sorry about all the questions, but once I get my mind on something, I can't stop thinking, it's a sickness.
Nick D
03-04-2010, 12:36 AM
So provided I see a pipe in an antique store that appears to be of good quality and no obvious flaws, how do I know it's worth picking up? Are there certain brands that I shouldn't pass up? Even if I don't enjoy smoking, one or two sitting on a shelf would look pretty cool in my man room.
Sorry about all the questions, but once I get my mind on something, I can't stop thinking, it's a sickness.
Two of my favorite pipes are estate. One is probably about 100 years old.
Brands to watch for would be Dunhill and Petersen, I'd say. There are certainly others, of course, but those are the two I always keep an eye out for.
But beyond that is simple aesthetics. If you see a pipe that catches your eye, that has its stem bent just so or the shape of the bowl just right, don't worry about the lack of a name on the stem. One of my favorite pipes is a Dr Grabow, which is a pretty cheap brand but it smokes really nice.
Do watch out for pipes with badly burned bowls, or with a massive cake built up inside the bowl (a sooty, crusty buildup from the burning tobacco). Make sure the stem fits tightly. If the pipe's in overall good condition but has lost its lustre, restoration is always possible. Loose or cracked stems can be repaired, too.
Thanks again for your answers, two more questions,
What makes Dunhill so much more expensive than other brands?
What's the story on these "Military" or "Army" bits I've run into?
Thanks again for your answers, two more questions,
What makes Dunhill so much more expensive than other brands?
What's the story on these "Military" or "Army" bits I've run into?
I have yet to figure out why Dunhills are so much more expensive, but they are very nice pipes.
As to military bits, that one is actually kind of cool. The tapered tenon on a military bit allows one to take it apart while it is still warm from smoking without risking damage. Theoretically this was developed for soldiers, who needed to be able to clean and put away their pipes quickly.
Hereward
03-04-2010, 07:56 AM
You might like to have a look at The Pipe Club of London's website: http://www.pipecluboflondon.com/.
I am an Honorary Life Member and my wife is too.
Nick D
03-04-2010, 11:18 AM
I imagine part of it is just the Dunhill name, though the better pipe makers tend to use better pieces of briar with a straighter grain and fewer fills.
Well, I bit the bullet today and visited Tobacco Barn and pickup up their starter kit, which included an inexpensive straight briar billiard pipe, a bag of English Tobacco Samples, a tamper tool, some pipe cleaners and a pamphlet.
I asked the owner about the price of Dunhill Pipes, he said pretty much the same thing, Today it's more of the name than the quality of the pipe. He said there isn't even a Dunhill Factory anymore, they subcontract out to other pipe makers.
I haven't started to break in the new pipe but I'll be sure to let you know my impressions.
I had a little time this afternoon to try it out. I smoked two half bowls about an hour apart as was directed for proper briar pipe break in. I smoked an aromatic called "Black Velvet" a vanilla based blend.
I had no trouble with packing and or keeping the pipe lit which was encouraging. The flavor wasn't what I was expecting but wasn't nearly as harsh as a cigarette or cigar. Smoking the first half bowl, I don't think I was as relaxed as I was with the second which I smoked slower and with more thought and focus on the taste.
I don't think pipe smoking is something I would do everyday but I can understand the appeal. I was expecting a slight buzz which I've experienced with cigars and chewing tobacco which never did occur, is this common or am I doing something wrong? [huh]
I had a little time this afternoon to try it out. I smoked two half bowls about an hour apart as was directed for proper briar pipe break in. I smoked an aromatic called "Black Velvet" a vanilla based blend.
I had no trouble with packing and or keeping the pipe lit which was encouraging. The flavor wasn't what I was expecting but wasn't nearly as harsh as a cigarette or cigar. Smoking the first half bowl, I don't think I was as relaxed as I was with the second which I smoked slower and with more thought and focus on the taste.
I don't think pipe smoking is something I would do everyday but I can understand the appeal. I was expecting a slight buzz which I've experienced with cigars and chewing tobacco which never did occur, is this common or am I doing something wrong? [huh]
As to flavor, the slower you smoke the more flavor there is, and aromatics almost never taste like they smell.
As to the buzz, a lot of pipe tobaccos (especially) do not really pack that much vitamin N, it all depends on the blend. Lots of pipe smokers, myself included, are not really looking for that much of a buzz when smoking, just the relaxation and enjoyment that comes with a good smoke.
Marc Chevalier
03-04-2010, 07:25 PM
I was expecting a slight buzz which I've experienced with cigars and chewing tobacco which never did occur, is this common or am I doing something wrong? [huh]
The buzz definitely does occur, but it can depend on the number of factors: the tobacco blend, the number of bowls that you smoke and how your tissues draw in the smoke and "juice," the functioning of your physiology at that moment, and even the position of the planets. (Okay, not that.)
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I wasn't really wanting the buzz, just expecting it. I have some 16 year old Bushmill's for that. :D
and even the position of the planets.
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As far as I can tell, that is the determining factor for whether my pipe will stay lit. Well, maybe the blizzards I was smoking in recently effected it too...
RudyN
03-04-2010, 08:11 PM
Great on beginning pipe smoking. I think you will really enjoy it. I would suggest getting a second pipe so that you can give the other a rest. Briar pipes smoke best if you give them a day off between smokes.
Great on beginning pipe smoking. I think you will really enjoy it. I would suggest getting a second pipe so that you can give the other a rest. Briar pipes smoke best if you give them a day off between smokes.
Thanks!
Regarding a second pipe; the practical guy in me says, buy another cheap briar or corncob, the "I love the finer things in life" guy says "I really like those Peterson Pipes!"
Honestly, do they all smoke the same but the quality is different? Like a folding chair vs. Herman Miller Chair? Functionally they do the same thing just one is better made and looks a lot nicer than the other?
Zanzibarstar
03-14-2010, 05:35 PM
Thanks!
Regarding a second pipe; the practical guy in me says, buy another cheap briar or corncob, the "I love the finer things in life" guy says "I really like those Peterson Pipes!"
Honestly, do they all smoke the same but the quality is different? Like a folding chair vs. Herman Miller Chair? Functionally they do the same thing just one is better made and looks a lot nicer than the other?
I started smoking a pipe about 6 months ago. Started with a $25 briar, then bought a $45 La Rocca. From there, I got a good deal on a used Aldo Velani, and picked up a Maestro de Paja estate pipe from Ebay. Let me tell you, the more expensive pipes are definitely better smokers, and also much more enjoyable. Everything about them is nicer, from the bite to the grip. I recommend looking into some estate pipes on Ebay. You can find some great deals on good quality pipes. Enjoy!
Has anyone heard of the "Private Selection" by Peterson's Pipes?
There is nothing on their website. I just picked this up on ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270548743610&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_776wt_941) because it's so beautiful and the price seemed reasonable compared to other Peterson's I've seen.
Thanks.
Nick D
03-19-2010, 01:47 AM
Never heard of Private Selection, but that is a fine looking pipe!
astrbac
03-25-2010, 03:24 AM
I want to have at least two pipes. The Peterson system No. 315 and a Butz Choquin Meerschaum lined Calabash are the contenders for my money at the moment.
This question is quite old but I thought I'd share some of my pipe wisdom anyway :-) You have chosen two good pipes, your taste will probably profile in time... I prefer the freehand pipes, some of them even made by myself
Peterson Irish Flake
Peterson University Flake
Peterson Sherlock Holmes
Dunhill Royal Yacht
Dunhill London Mix
Dunhill Standard Mix Medium
Samuel Gawith Squadron Leader
Samuel Gawith Full Virginia Flake
I haven't tried any of these tobaccos but a good place to start would be Tobaccoreviews.com . I have heard all the good things about Squadron leader but I don't know about the others.
For the English I would DEFINITELY refer you to some other Latakia tobacocs:
Balkan Sasieni
Ashton Artisans
McClelland Frog Morton
Dunhill MyMixture 965 (if you can find it)
Macbarren Vintage Syrian
Would it be necessary to use a separate pipe for Virginian and English blend tobaccos?
Not necessary but a good option. You dont mix and match and can enjoy your different tobaccos better.
Likewise goes for meershaum pipes, they look too fragile to use.
Now this is one area where you are wrong mate :-)... Meerschaum pipe may be your best aquisition! It is inert material, allows you to enjoy your tobacco flavor and nothing else, cools down quickly so you can reuse it in about an hour... And it looks down right cool if you ask me ;)
Cheers!
astrbac
03-25-2010, 03:35 AM
@GWD Hello mate! :-)
Heres my two cents. I have found that you normally DON'T have to break the pipe in. You can pack it normally and just smoke slowly, let it go out from time to time. A friend of mine is a pipe maker (sells his pipes through Pipemakers.org forum) so he knows a thing or two ;), says the same thing.
Also, I think you haven't really chosen a good tobacco. Vanilla and Cherry stuff is to be avoided. It's most likely cheap, perfumed stuff that will just make you sick. You might go with an easier Latakia blend like Frog Morton or maybe a Virginia like Squadron Leader.
As far as the nicotine kick that you haven't felt, you also need to change tobaccos. Try Dunhill Nightcap, My Mixture 965 or especially Mississipi mud. That one will knock you out of your shoes :D.
Do you inhale through the nose when you exhale from your mouth?
savoy6
04-03-2010, 08:33 PM
I would recomend the Torben & Dansk Blue Note..though i like the Black Velvet as well.though ,as has been stated,the more aromatic the tobacco,the worse it tastes and the effect on your tongue...especially cherry blends....
the coolest smoking and a decent tasting tobacco i've had is actually the stock,generic black cavendish they usually sell at walgreens and such in the large bag..for the price of a tin of the other stuff...a good ,cool every day smoke that tastes good and smells decent..
if you want to get a cob..look for those that are real pipes,not just ones that they make as curios in country stores....Missouri Meerschaum is a good standard brand for them and i find these for as low as $3.99 in some stores..they smoke pretty well...
Mr_D.
04-13-2010, 07:18 PM
Maybe this could be stickied. :)
So you’ve decided to smoke a pipe? Wise decision! Pipe smoking is one of the most relaxing and pleasurable experiences that a person can enjoy. Smoking a pipe is a distinguished pleasure and you have chosen to join the elite few who call themselves pipe smokers.
As such, always smoke your pipe with respect for others and observe proper smoking etiquette.
pipesmokingguide.com (http://www.pipesmokingguide.com/)
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Doublegun
03-29-2011, 07:46 AM
Been thinking about taking up a new "vice" and smoking a pipe. Been poking around on the web and looking at pipes and am suffering from sticker shock. Somewhere in my parents house is a VERY old pipe. Nothing fancy but it has a nice wood bowl. I have no idea when it was last used or even who it belonged to originally.
Any way to resurrect that old pipe? How do I find out if it is even usable? If not what can I expect to spend for a good beginner pipe with a classic look?
Thanks.
Edward
03-29-2011, 09:10 AM
Pipes seem to be one of those things where you can find a useable example fairly cheaply, and there is no upper limit - you can spend as much as you want on a pipe! I would suggest eBay as a good source. Plenty of dealers on there selling very smokeable, used pipes. As long as the stem has been well bleached and the bowl given a good clean and polish, there is no problem with a used pipe. Watch out for Big Ben (a Dutch brand) or Ireland's Peterson Pipes, both excellent stuff. For Vintage appeal, look to aluminium-stemmed Falcon pipes: designed and developed in the late Thirties, these were on public sale from about 40/41. The bowls are screw in / out, interchangeable types. Nice things. If you take to it, eventually you might want to have several pipes of differing styles, but just find something cheap to begin with. If a used pipe turns you off, try a tobacconist for something basic (usually own brand or unbranded) - some of these are very smokeable indeed, and generally rather cheap. Avoid the plastic-bodied type with the little metal bowl in which the tobacco is meant to sit - nasty things. Another cheap option is a corncob pipe. Very cheap and semi-disposable. They can look a bit Deliverance, but they are an option to see if a pipe is for you. If loking at vintage items on eBay, keep an eye out for 'rejects' in good condition. Typically the big brands reject a pipe for extremely minor cosmetic flaws you will struggle to see, and one of my finest smoking pipes is stamped reject.
Any way to resurrect that old pipe? How do I find out if it is even usable? If not what can I expect to spend for a good beginner pipe with a classic look?
You can definitely resurrect an old pipe. It probably just needs to be cleaned, at the very least with pipe cleaners, and at most with what is called the "salt and alcohol treatment." here is a good description of how to clean a pipe that has gone sour (http://www.pipes.org/Articles/PipeSweet.html). Also, find out if there is a tobacconist near you and go talk to him. Pipe smokers are, as far as I have seen, a friendly lot who are happy to show a newbie the ropes.
Also, for a new pipe, most tobacconists have a basket of pipes for much lower prices. These are usually factory seconds from the main brands which were rejected for whatever reason, but tend to still be very good.
John in Covina
03-29-2011, 10:33 AM
I recall that many people that are pipe smokers caution against highly flavored tobaccos as they may smell great but are tough on the smoker.
I recall that many people that are pipe smokers caution against highly flavored tobaccos as they may smell great but are tough on the smoker.
I agree with this sentiment. Aromatics tend to not taste very good, although the people around you will prefer them. I would ask for a burley, either straight or as the primary ingredient in a blend. They tend to be naturally sweet and rather pleasant and smooth to smoke, in addition to smelling nice.
1961MJS
03-29-2011, 11:14 AM
I agree with this sentiment. Aromatics tend to not taste very good, although the people around you will prefer them. I would ask for a burley, either straight or as the primary ingredient in a blend. They tend to be naturally sweet and rather pleasant and smooth to smoke, in addition to smelling nice.
Hi, odd though that all may sound it's also TRUE. The best smelling pipe tobacco in the store tastes at best funny when it's on fire. The best tasting kind on fire, smells slightly like sweaty feet in the store. I STRONGLY suggest that you NOT ask for it using that description. Ask for the "most popular brand". Unless Michigan is populated by complete weirdo's, you'll be o.k.
My local cigar store finally got in a new batch of pipes, prior to last week the least expensive one was $55.00. I just got a pipe and the tobacco for $50.00 total including our outrageous tax.
Oh, buy a lighter especially for a pipe, you'll thank me later. The guy at the store SHOULD know what I'm talking about.
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Oh, buy a lighter especially for a pipe, you'll thank me later. The guy at the store SHOULD know what I'm talking about.
I would recommend using wooden matches, but a pipe lighter is fine. Definitely do not use a cigar torch lighter. They will char the pipe and can ruin it.
This forum (http://forum.pipes.org/discus/discus.cgi) has a lot of good advice to sift through, if you are willing to take some time.
scotrace
03-29-2011, 12:08 PM
A good place to start:
Pipe Smoking. (http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?6623-Pipe-Smoking)
kokopelli
03-29-2011, 12:10 PM
At the risk of being crucified.. and from the perspective of a long term smoker.. I would recommend NOT starting.. I really like pipes and the smell of real aged tobacco, but I believe I would just carry the "loaded" pipe and smell it every now and again.. My cardiologist makes a tremendous living as it is.. JMO.. Cheers.. Ron
Jaguar66
03-29-2011, 10:29 PM
Unfortunately, for me at least, a pipe would be an open stairway for me to start back up on my cigarette nicotine addiction, an extremely addicting activity, and one that took me a long time to stop. I still consider myself a nicotine addict, one hit, and its back to a pack a day.
James71
03-30-2011, 02:30 AM
Unfortunately, for me at least, a pipe would be an open stairway for me to start back up on my cigarette nicotine addiction, an extremely addicting activity, and one that took me a long time to stop. I still consider myself a nicotine addict, one hit, and its back to a pack a day.
I'm completely the opposite. I can have a pipe or two a week or a month and enjoy them immensely without ever "needing" it.
In spite of the learned opinions above I quite enjoy a cherry cavendish.
wildturkey8
03-31-2011, 07:07 PM
Try a Kaywoodie Red Root, Dr. Grabow Golden Duke or a basket pipe if available. For tobacco go to the Pipework & Wilke website and order some of Carroll's great aromatics, such as 191, Maple Cavendish, or Rumcake. #10 is a great one to start with English blends.
Tiller
03-31-2011, 07:24 PM
If you want a decent aromatic I recommend Butternut Burly (http://www.pipesandcigars.com/butburbykuro.html).
If your looking for a cheap everyday smoke (or a decent burly cake starter) try Carter Hall. (http://www.tobaccoreviews.com/blend_detail.cfm?ALPHA=C&TID=1092)
Effingham
04-01-2011, 09:45 AM
I recently quit smoking, and have retired my pipes and paraphernalia.
But I'd like to make a few suggestions.
You can't go wrong with a navy flake. MacBarren's Navy Flake, Orlick's Golden Sliced, and Peter Stokeby's Navy Flake are almost identical, and are all wonderful, soft, and almost creamy with a hint of honey flavor and scent, although there are no non-tobacco additives. I have *never* experienced tongue bite smoking them, never had an "ew, what's that?" complaint (unlike when I was smoking a Turkish or English blend with latakia or perique), and never had icky dottle to deal with -- unlike the times with fruit-flavored aromatics.
I'd recommend giving navy flake a try. You'll never go back.
Tony
Darrel Morris
04-14-2011, 12:18 PM
I just purchased my first pipe. It's a bit different from what I've seen on here but I got it to go with a privateer costume. Only smoked Borkum Riff Cavendish Black so far. I'm hoping to find something better but our local pipe shop has gone out of business. Will it be ok for me to smoke other tobaccos in the same pipe?
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/208311_159678770759043_100001507634126_354054_1907 34_n.jpg
Blackadder
04-14-2011, 03:25 PM
Thanks!
Regarding a second pipe; the practical guy in me says, buy another cheap briar or corncob, the "I love the finer things in life" guy says "I really like those Peterson Pipes!"
Honestly, do they all smoke the same but the quality is different? Like a folding chair vs. Herman Miller Chair? Functionally they do the same thing just one is better made and looks a lot nicer than the other?
Peterson is a fine medium priced brand. Some people go for the more expensive brand probably because they are collectors and desire the craftsmanship (never sand blast for them). I on the other hand do not mind and have a couple of sandblast Peterson. I find the sandblast pipes to be better for general/regular use. Also for general use, there are cheaper alternatives. I personally find the BBB to be ok in general. Some Dr Plumb are good.
Computergeek
04-16-2011, 01:25 PM
for a good first pipe, or second or third........ you get the idea you can't go wrong with a savinelli second they can usually be had for about 30 or 40 dollars at any reputable pipe seller. they smoke very well, but have a small blemish on the finish some where so they go from being a 200+ dollar pipe to about a 30/40 dollar pipe. I personally recommend a virginia burly cut long, and a little on the dry side. Nice aroma and it doesn't burn to hot, which is an issue for beginning pipe smokers.
Cheers,
Jeremy
wildturkey8
04-22-2011, 09:18 PM
You could order a Blakemar Briar online straight from the manufacturer in England. Best pipe for the money. www.blakemar.co.uk
Jesse Jack
04-23-2011, 10:09 AM
My favorite pipe is a Britannia, it was like $50 in a retail store. The $100+ pipes are really out of my price range but I didn't want to settle for something really low-quality, and this was a good find. I guess they are seconds from either Comoys or Dunhill, which are both really good manufacturers. So $50 is a steal, I think. The only thing I dislike about it is that it had oxidation on the stem when I got it and after every smoke it's turning brown again. But I just get in the habit of rubbing a little chapstick into the stem after every smoke and it polishes it right up.
A good starter tobacco, I think, is the Carter Hall burley you find in a drug store. It's my "every day" smoke and I recommend it to beginners for one big reason: it's easy. It doesn't taste like cookies or smell like vanilla cupcakes, but it's good and it's a no-worries blend. Some other tobaccos aren't as forgiving; they're hard to keep lit, they bite ya, and it's discouraging for newbies. CH is a really easy smoke and I say smoke your first couple bowls with that, and once you get the hang of it, venture out into other blends. A lot of people pick up a more temperamental blend for their first try and get really frustrated and give up because they think that all tobaccos are like that. A straight burley like CH is also best for caking up a new bowl.
Doublegun
04-23-2011, 02:37 PM
Finally picked up a pipe. A great looking briarwood Britannia. It was in the baskets of seconds - fit the bill perfectly. Also bought a small bag of "Jamestown" that was recommended as a good place to start. Haven't fired-up yet but I will soon.
Jaguar66
04-23-2011, 03:07 PM
I'm completely the opposite. I can have a pipe or two a week or a month and enjoy them immensely without ever "needing" it.
In spite of the learned opinions above I quite enjoy a cherry cavendish.
I envy folks that can do this. I have admitted long ago that nicotine was my drug of choice, and I have tried to use a pipe occasionally, only to end up smoking a pack of day of Marlboro Lights, within a short while.
John in Covina
04-23-2011, 03:17 PM
I envy folks that can do this. I have admitted long ago that nicotine was my drug of choice, and I have tried to use a pipe occasionally, only to end up smoking a pack of day of Marlboro Lights, within a short while.
Addiction is addiction, few people that were alcoholics can switch from liquor to 3.2 beer with out abusing it either.
Doublegun
04-26-2011, 11:38 AM
Just dug out the old pipe from my parents home. The pipe is marked Marxman "Jumbo" and appears to be in pretty good condition. I tried to run a cleaner through the stem and it was blocked so I pulled it apart and there is a small metal piece that fits between the two parts and which appears to be some sort or regulator limiting the amount of smoke/air that significantally narrows the air passage.
A quick Qoogle search turns up a picture of a Marxman catalogue from 1947 that shows pictures of pipes virtually identical to my "Jumbo." Anyone familiar with the pipe and/or the "regulator"?
http://www.goantiques.com/scripts/images,id,891678.html
Thanks,
DG
LocktownDog
04-26-2011, 04:36 PM
Its not to limit the air or smoke, but the moisture. They do make the pipes a pain in the proverbial butt to clean though. Quite a few can be removed easily without damaging the shank. They either pull straight out or unscrew.
Marxmans are decent smokers.
mercuryfelt76
05-12-2011, 02:44 AM
I've been smoking a pipe for 5 years and have built up a bit of a collection, including a few nice Meershums. I don't go for the aromatic tobaccos as they seem to burn too hot and I personally prefer the smell of a nice Virginia smoke. My preferred tobacco is Players Navy Cut (I understand J R R Tolkein used to smoke this one) it really burns cool and long. I can smoke a whole bowl without the pipe going out or heating up too much. My favourite pipe at the moment is a sand blast Parker - I like the way it looks aged before it's time.
Are there any good threads for posting pictures of our pipes?
mercuryfelt76
05-12-2011, 02:55 AM
Enjoying reading the thread. I didn't know they were for reducing moisture. In one of my regular cigar and pipe specialists they call that metal part a filter. I thought they meant to filter the smoke like a cigarette end so I always removed it.
James71
05-12-2011, 04:14 PM
Its getting chilly here of a night, coming into winter. I enjoyed a pipe of Dr Pats last night through my churchwarden. I love the cooling effect of the long stem, but it is strictly a fireside smoke. For out in the field something more robust, like my Falcon with rusticated apple bowl lives in my hunting bag.
The flavoured cavendish style tobaccos get a hard time, but I will be brutally honest here and admit that sometimes when I am in the mood a nice aromatic Borkum Riff Cherry Cavendish is just what I feel like. It has to be fresh though. After being open a week it loses its sweetness. I keep it in the freezer.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/WJByrnes/P9060049sm.jpg
Renault
05-12-2011, 05:39 PM
I have been smoking a pipe for over 30 years. Generally I only smoke on outings to the woods, reenactments, and in camp. Love to smoke while I bird hunt, fish, or watch the fire at night . Just don't have the urge to smoke around the house. Love my Kaywoodies! Have a few favorites. But I really don't collect. I've smoked Special #2 from the chain store here "Pipe World" for just about all of those 30 years. Unless I was out in the wilds and had to settle for something at the local grocer when I ran out. I'm not an expert. Really don't get into the science of it all. Just enjoy my pipes!
Renault
James Willeford
06-06-2011, 10:05 AM
In my opinion, smoking implements enhance a man's presence or we probably wouldn't be drawn to smoking in the first place. A cigarette says the smoker is indifferent to authority, a cigar says the user IS authority, and pipes just speak to a higher level altogether. I much prefer a pipe to a cigar for its refined aroma and taste, as well as the aura the aroma and implement itself lend a man. I am an active guy and prefer a sophisticated-looking pipe that I can grip between my teeth. Big Ben pipes accomplish this very well.
Tobacco -- I prefer a blend from a local tobacconist in Jacksonville, North Carolina, sweet but not strong-sweet and very pleasant on the draw, lots of white smoke. But then, there are a lot of different tobaccos out there and I'm sure I could enjoy a different blend just as well. So beginning pipe-smoking is like learning to shoot: Pick yourself a firearm you like and then get good with it!
James
Doublegun
06-06-2011, 11:50 AM
Well, I've been messing around with my pipes for about 6-weeks and I am getting settled. I had a professional clean my Marxman and I find it to be the better of my two pipes. It's a little smoother to smoke and just feels better. As for tobacco, I started with a house blend called "Jamestown" which I really did not care for. It burned a little hot and had a spicy finish. From there I went to Vanilla Black Cavindish,another housebrand. Very moist and a richer almost sweet taste. Then I tried a tin of Devil's Holiday which smells almost good enough to eat. I really enjoy both the tobacco's that have a lighter, sweeter taste. They taste better to me and those around me have commented positivly about the smell of the smoke. I have received only a coulpe of snarky comments and several fellows have actually commented that they have always wanted to try a pipe.
Thanks again for the guidance and support. I don't have cravings to fire up a bowl and I don't intend to make it a daily ritual but I do enjoy it from time to time.
Cheers,
JDG
Allen
06-07-2011, 06:35 PM
I have a Savinelli that I purchased a while back, and have smoked it probably four or five times in the time that I've had it. It's building up a nice cake and is breaking in well. One thing I like about Savinelli's pipes are the filters that they use. As opposed to a small, one inch long plastic tube about as big around as a pencil eraser, they use a triangular piece of balsa wood. Due to it's absorption qualities, the wood helps to regulate the moisture inside the pipe. They're definitely worth a try.
Doublegun
07-09-2011, 04:26 PM
Ok, the next step: pouches for carrying tobacco and pipe stands. How about sharing some advice and photos? I did buy a pouch today. I've been alternating between "Devil's Holiday" which comes in a tin and Vanilla Black Cavendish which comes in a plastic bag. The tin is cool, as is but I got tired of carrying around a ziplock with tobacco. I stopped carrying around ziplock's with smoking material a VERY long time ago.
Steven180
08-14-2011, 09:12 PM
A new member, but very happy that I have found an arena for those with such common interests.
As mentioned, and I think most would agree, that burning a pipe is a very personal experience that provides value to all in different ways. Appreciate the insight, opinions, and advice offered here. This thread has taught a great deal to a modest, eight-year pipe burner. A pipe is a rare find in today's society, but a pipe marks a rare find in today's society.
Just a quick note of gratitude for serving as such a good example of the culture and camaraderie of this site.
M.
AtomicEraTom
08-14-2011, 09:53 PM
I smoked pipe for awhile, and gave it up when I moved. Now, I'm back at it and cannot figure out why I ever gave it up!
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