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"Star Wars" Episode VII Cast announced/revealed

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I still have no interest in this, or the endless Star Wars projects and tie-ins coming behind it. Maybe if I didn't think Abrams was a talent-free hack. Maybe if George Lucas still had input. Maybe if it wasn't so clearly being done just for the money. Disney's already got me with all their Marvel and Pixar projects, but I'm drawing a line with Star Wars.

Sure, there's an outside chance that I'll see this theatrically if the circumstances are right, if only for the nostalgia value of seeing the original trilogy stars... but I doubt that I'm gonna like it.
 

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I'm one of those rare (it seems) individuals who was blessed enough to retain a sense of childlike wonderment into adulthood when it comes to viewing myth, magic and space battles as conceived of in the mind of Mr Lucas and his collaborators. Bring on the futuristic cities that cover whole planets, the laser swords, ray guns, spaceships, strange aliens etc. I still love them as much as ever and I'll be there in my favourite spot right int the middle of the cinema to enjoy it all.

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I still have no interest in this, or the endless Star Wars projects and tie-ins coming behind it. Maybe if I didn't think Abrams was a talent-free hack. Maybe if George Lucas still had input. Maybe if it wasn't so clearly being done just for the money. Disney's already got me with all their Marvel and Pixar projects, but I'm drawing a line with Star Wars.

Sure, there's an outside chance that I'll see this theatrically if the circumstances are right, if only for the nostalgia value of seeing the original trilogy stars... but I doubt that I'm gonna like it.
If you're going in with such a negative attitude towards it, you're almost guaranteed to not like it. On the other hand, if your expectations are that low you might just be pleasantly surprised and really like it. Either way, please be sure to share your opinions (spoiler free, of course) after you've seen it.
 
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I still have no interest in this, or the endless Star Wars projects and tie-ins coming behind it. Maybe if I didn't think Abrams was a talent-free hack. Maybe if George Lucas still had input. Maybe if it wasn't so clearly being done just for the money. Disney's already got me with all their Marvel and Pixar projects, but I'm drawing a line with Star Wars.

Sure, there's an outside chance that I'll see this theatrically if the circumstances are right, if only for the nostalgia value of seeing the original trilogy stars... but I doubt that I'm gonna like it.

I'm with you, man. It's going to be trash, that, sadly, will make lots of money for Disney and Hollywood. I am surprised that Harrison Ford even entertained the idea.
 

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I'm with you, man. It's going to be trash, that, sadly, will make lots of money for Disney and Hollywood. I am surprised that Harrison Ford even entertained the idea.

I rather suspect he likes money, and this is a really, really easy way of getting a large pile of it. I should think Disney are approaching the project with much the same idea.
 
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Well, technically, you saw Episode IV.
You beat me to it. lol

I got an interesting call from a good friend today. We had previously discussed when we were going to attempt to see The Force Awakens, and my position was that I definitely wanted to see it but was planning to wait until the crowds had died down a bit. Turns out he got tickets for us to see the 8:00 p.m. showing on December 17th, so it looks like I'll just have to deal with the crowd. :D
 

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I'm quite looking forward to seeing SWTFA early in the new year. Unlike everyone else who has NOT yet seen it, I'm withholding judgment until I've actually seen it!
 

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The trailer looks pretty cool. I expect I'll be seeing this with my son come opening weekend.


I still have no interest in this, or the endless Star Wars projects and tie-ins coming behind it. Maybe if I didn't think Abrams was a talent-free hack. Maybe if George Lucas still had input. Maybe if it wasn't so clearly being done just for the money. Disney's already got me with all their Marvel and Pixar projects, but I'm drawing a line with Star Wars.

Sure, there's an outside chance that I'll see this theatrically if the circumstances are right, if only for the nostalgia value of seeing the original trilogy stars... but I doubt that I'm gonna like it.

Mostly agreed. Lucas had input on the prior films. Let's face it, they were fun updated 1940s era serials set in space that barely improved as they went along. They were fun and made a lot of money but the stories were flat.

I cannot see how Abrams can do any worse with the property!
 
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Well, that's all I want. A good space opera with some action, and I want my favorite characters to act like they should.

And some 'splosions.

But not too much kissin'! Unless Han kisses the Millennium Falcon.
 
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I'm quite looking forward to seeing SWTFA early in the new year. Unlike everyone else who has NOT yet seen it, I'm withholding judgment until I've actually seen it!
I'm right there with you. I really enjoy the Original Trilogy movies warts and all, and have accepted the Prequel Trilogy movies for what they are even though I was initially disappointed by them, so I'm regarding The Force Awakens with cautious optimism. I've seen the trailers but am otherwise trying to remain as spoiler-free as possible because I want to form my own opinion of the movie after I've seen it.
 

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Then you're gonna love this: :p
[video=youtube;qFu_dxwU-sk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFu_dxwU-sk[/video]
 

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I'm one of those rare (it seems) individuals who was blessed enough to retain a sense of childlike wonderment into adulthood when it comes to viewing myth, magic and space battles as conceived of in the mind of Mr Lucas and his collaborators. Bring on the futuristic cities that cover whole planets, the laser swords, ray guns, spaceships, strange aliens etc. I still love them as much as ever and I'll be there in my favourite spot right int the middle of the cinema to enjoy it all.
This reminds me of a favorite quote of mine by C. S. Lewis:
Now the modern critical world uses 'adult' as a term of approval. It is hostile to what it calls 'nostalgia' and contemptuous of what it calls 'Peter Pantheism'. Hence a man who admits that dwarfs and giants and talking beasts and witches are still dear to him in his fifty-third year is now less likely to be praised for his perennial youth than scorned and pitied for arrested development. If I spend some little time defending myself against these charges, this is not so much because it matters greatly whether I am scorned and pitied as because the defence is germane to my whole view of the fairy tale and even of literature in general. My defence consists of three propositions.

1. I reply with a tu quoque. Critics who treat adult as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development: When I was ten I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.

2. The modern view seems to me to involve a false conception of growth. They accuse us of arrested development because we have not lost a taste we had in childhood. But surely arrested development consists not in refusing to lose old things but in failing to add new things? I now like hock, which I am sure I should not have liked as a child. But I still like lemon-squash. I call this growth or development because I have been enriched: where I formerly had only one pleasure, I now have two. But if I had to lose the taste for lemon-squash before I acquired the taste for hock, that would not be growth but simple change. I now enjoy Tolstoy and Jane Austen and Trollope as well as fairy tales and I call that growth: if I had had to lose the fairy tales in order to acquire the novelists, I would not say that I had grown but only that I had changed. A tree grows because it adds rings: a train doesn't grow by leaving one station behind and puffing on to the next. In reality, the case is stronger and more complicated than this. I think my growth is just as apparent when I now read the fairy tales as when I read the novelists, for I now enjoy the fairy tales better than I did in childhood: being now able to put more in, of course I get more out.

But I do not here stress that point. Even if it were merely a taste for grown-up literature added to an unchanged taste for children's literature, addition would still be entitled to the name 'growth', and the process of merely dropping one parcel when you pick up another would not. It is, of course, true that the process of growing does, incidentally and unfortunately, involve some more losses. But that is not the essence of growth, certainly not what makes growth admirable or desirable. If it were, if to drop parcels and to leave stations behind were the essence and virtue of growth, why should we stop at the adult? Why should not senile be equally a term of approval? Why are we not to be congratulated on losing our teeth and hair? Some critics seem to confuse growth with the cost of growth and also to wish to make that cost far higher than, in nature, it need be.
 

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