Campdraft brim

CurlyW · Oct 19, 2016

I'm wondering what's the best way, if any, to flatten the brim a bit on my CD. it curls up quite a bit due to the edging on it. I didn't want to snap it down, but was hoping to just flatten it out in the front or all around depending on how it looks.

thanks

RJR · Oct 19, 2016

CurlyW said:
I'm wondering what's the best way, if any, to flatten the brim a bit on my CD. it curls up quite a bit due to the edging on it. I didn't want to snap it down, but was hoping to just flatten it out in the front or all around depending on how it looks.

thanks

Steamer or if you don't have one,a steam iron with cloth between the iron and the felt.Go slow and do a little at a time until you have it where you want it.

moontheloon · Oct 19, 2016

iron is the way to go if you want to flatten it

put the iron on the steam setting and make sure there is a cloth between the hat and iron obviously

make sure the cloth does not fold or ripple because those ripples often end up marking the brim and are very hard to get out

as a warning ... you will most likely take all the life out of the brim and it will never have a flange again unless you have it re flanged

be gentle if you decide to do this because you can easily just end up with a matted down lifeless brim if too aggressive

CurlyW · Oct 20, 2016

i'm not sure what you mean by flange, but now you're scaring me. maybe i'll just wet it down real good and put something on it that's not too heavy. what do ya think.

Doctor Strange · Oct 20, 2016

Flanging is part of the manufacturing process. It's when that curl is put into the brim, done by pressing it into a curve-shaped piece of metal called a flange with major steam. (The curl doesn't come from the edge binding, the felt is "trained" to curl by flanging.)

You can try just wetting it and pressing it down, but I doubt you will really get the curl out without steaming/ironing it as described above.

What do you find so objectionable about the brim curl, anyway? I never cared for the look of a completely flat brim myself.

DOGMAN · Oct 20, 2016

This is a wood flange

DOGMAN · Oct 20, 2016

Here is a pic without a hat in it

Doctor Strange · Oct 20, 2016

Oops, I forgot that they were made of wood. Thanks for the visual aids!

CurlyW · Oct 20, 2016

wow, pretty interesting. I don't want all of the curl out, just don't wanting curling up too much in the front really

DOGMAN · Oct 21, 2016

Doctor Strange said:
Oops, I forgot that they were made of wood. Thanks for the visual aids!

Your welcome.

bluesforchallah · Oct 22, 2016

CurlyW said:
I don't want all of the curl out, just don't wanting curling up too much in the front really

MY CD has taken on a natural swoop in the front. I don't know if that's because my head is a long oval shoved into a regular oval hat.

Bob Roberts · Oct 22, 2016

bluesforchallah said:
MY CD has taken on a natural swoop in the front. I don't know if that's because my head is a long oval shoved into a regular oval hat.

I often train my brims to do that. I looks especially appealing when I wear my brims snapped up.

tommyK · Oct 22, 2016

Many of the old flanges have a flatter front and a more cupped back. Note the top flange below.

If you want a more shallow flange I suggest going up a size or two, say from a 2 3/4 to a 2 7/8 or even a three inch flange. This will give you a flatter brim without completely eliminating the curl.

RJR · Oct 22, 2016

tommyK said:
Many of the old flanges have a flatter front and a more cupped back. Note the top flange below.

If you want a more shallow flange I suggest going up a size or two, say from a 2 3/4 to a 2 7/8 or even a three inch flange. This will give you a flatter brim without completely eliminating the curl.

Good suggestion.

shrek · Oct 22, 2016

I Like the looks of the Hat on you sir.

LuvMyMan · Oct 22, 2016

DOGMAN said:
Here is a pic without a hat in it

Frontier Out House Lid....(My Husband refers to those)...haha BUT they do add the curl into the brim...

Michael R. · Oct 23, 2016

I bought 3 Flanges (7 3/8 , '2' 2 3/4" , and a 2 7/8")and a Flange Stand (got another flange not my size (7 1/8 2 1/2" with it) , but on my Campdraft I asked a Pro that wears Hats of every Brim configuration . I didn't like the gangster look , but wanted less Norton in the front . He said steam the bottom of the front , then lightly tug and hold for a bit . It worked out the way I wanted . You can do more or less , wider , or more narrow (depends on how many fingers you use). Mine is still up , but not as much (like Chris has his but a bit wider). Doesn't look like James Cagney , See , or Norton on The Honeymooners .

Cane Rod Maker · Oct 23, 2016

Although the brim flange does indeed begin and dictate the "cupping" , if you are edge binding, and you did not pre-shrink your ribbon, and if your closed loop was a touch on the small side; once baste stitched in place, what was minor cupping can become extream. And it becomes very obvious at the end, in the last few inches of basting. That is where I say, no, scrap this piece, let me make another. Especially if a person wants a flatter brim, with less curl. And obviously using a flange with minimum curl is a factor to start. Even relaxing the flanging with steam afterward, and before binding. But like I said, mimimul curl on a flange, and a tight closed loop basted onto it , will make that flanged brim seriously altered/cupped, if some attention isn't paid in the process; to create that look from the start, this is from a custom point of view.

andrew_AU · Oct 26, 2016

I wear a size 60 (7 1/2). What size flange should I get?

Frunobulax · Oct 26, 2016

andrew_AU said:
I wear a size 60 (7 1/2). What size flange should I get?

7 1/2

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