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Thanks... I wasn't able to open your attachments, but did (I think) see the hat photographed for auction. I have a mate to this and agree, it is a very nice velour felt.
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The BORSALINO BROTHERHOOD
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And interior missing onion skin of course but still has the Colombo stamp imprinted on Silk liner.
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Is it common in the older Borsalinos to also have the onion skin under the sweat, between the sweat and the felt of the hat? I have an old Wormser with onion skin like this and just wonder how common it is across hat companies, and across the pond.
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Yes it's common with Borsalinos. I am not sure when they started to use it. I know most of my examples are from the 1950s. Other Italian hat companies used it too. You also see it with German and Austrian hats. I believe my oldest German example (a Mayser) is from the early 1950s. I am sure it was used elsewhere in Europe but it would require some searching and the sample size here is lacking.
This Mayser is date stamped 1952.
http://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/index.php?/topic/3-mayser-hutfabrik/page-3#entry482
This Mayser is date stamped 1952.
http://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/index.php?/topic/3-mayser-hutfabrik/page-3#entry482
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I don't think I've ever seen one on a Borsalino hat. As for other companies, Stetson was using sweat resistors in the mid 30's, but it was not "onion skin".
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This Borsalino "Lontra" (otter) has a thin layer between the sweatband and the crown. What material this was originally is hard to say - it has partially disintegrated into the liner, leaving a fine open weave silk-like layer. This hat was never worn. It arrived rolled just as it was shipped from Roma.
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I thought they were all made from Unicorn fur!
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You got that right!
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I had thought that "lontra" was a style name, like "visone" (mink)... but perhaps they does have content significance... like "castoro" (beaver)?
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Otters are too cute!
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Dinerman had a Borsalino hat made of pine marten.
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New Borsalino from a young man in my Sunday School class and Scout troop (The Duct Tape Patrol!). He told me it was his great grandfathers' hat. I know it's not that old, pre-80's with a stitched in liner, but I went to the boy's father to make sure he knew about the gift. He corrected his son, saying it was his Aunt's hat and she didn't want it anymore. So, I graciously accepted. No way was I going to accept what could be considered a family heirloom; the grandfather's hat. I would dearly love to have one of my grandfather's hats.
Under the sweat I see:
04283
GIUNLINA
76-88106
7 1/2
On the opposite side under the sweat:
Velour 7 1/2 $45.---
Camel ( and a scribbled mark over the top of the brim size... which I think says 1-7/8)
It looks like a "traveler" style hat. Indeed, Aunt Barb used it as such for hiking, etc. But it's made of nice, soft velour. The color isn't the usual I see for Camel. It's almost a darker deli-mustard color to my eyes. I thought it would go well with the rust colored J Crew shirt I got for Christmas about 12 years ago.
Under the sweat I see:
04283
GIUNLINA
76-88106
7 1/2
On the opposite side under the sweat:
Velour 7 1/2 $45.---
Camel ( and a scribbled mark over the top of the brim size... which I think says 1-7/8)
It looks like a "traveler" style hat. Indeed, Aunt Barb used it as such for hiking, etc. But it's made of nice, soft velour. The color isn't the usual I see for Camel. It's almost a darker deli-mustard color to my eyes. I thought it would go well with the rust colored J Crew shirt I got for Christmas about 12 years ago.
Unique,nice acquisition.New Borsalino from a young man in my Sunday School class and Scout troop (The Duct Tape Patrol!). He told me it was his great grandfathers' hat. I know it's not that old, pre-80's with a stitched in liner, but I went to the boy's father to make sure he knew about the gift. He corrected his son, saying it was his Aunt's hat and she didn't want it anymore. So, I graciously accepted. No way was I going to accept what could be considered a family heirloom; the grandfather's hat. I would dearly love to have one of my grandfather's hats.
Under the sweat I see:
04283
GIUNLINA
76-88106
7 1/2
On the opposite side under the sweat:
Velour 7 1/2 $45.---
Camel ( and a scribbled mark over the top of the brim size... which I think says 1-7/8)
It looks like a "traveler" style hat. Indeed, Aunt Barb used it as such for hiking, etc. But it's made of nice, soft velour. The color isn't the usual I see for Camel. It's almost a darker deli-mustard color to my eyes. I thought it would go well with the rust colored J Crew shirt I got for Christmas about 12 years ago.
