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ryan_289 · Mar 7, 2017

Moon that liner is bada$$!

FedOregon · Mar 7, 2017

@Marcelle Miss 5 of hearts really, uh, stands out, doesn't she?

ryan_289 · Mar 7, 2017

Marcelle said:
I love this lining! one of the tailors i use to work with has lined his jacket with the below picture. which will be going into my next hat!

That would make a great hat liner as well. I just would have to be a little more careful about setting the hat upside down!

RJR · Mar 7, 2017

ryan_289 said:
That would make a great hat liner as well. I just would have to be a little more careful about setting the hat upside down!

I have several of Dogman's liners-they are fun!

ryan_289 · Mar 7, 2017

How does one obtain these cool liners?

moontheloon · Mar 7, 2017

ryan_289 said:
How does one obtain these cool liners?

@DOGMAN

Marcelle · Mar 8, 2017

ryan_289 said:
How does one obtain these cool liners?

There is a cloth merchant I use in the UK would you like their details?

ryan_289 · Mar 8, 2017

Marcelle said:
There is a cloth merchant I use in the UK would you like their details?

It wouldn't do me much good. If you need cows worked, jeeps and tractors fixed, or something welded together, I'm your man. Need something sewn together? Not so much. My wife can sew pretty well but I can imagine that conversation..."Hey hun will you sew me a hat liner out of this naked lady material"?!

Redfokker · Mar 8, 2017

moontheloon said:
Forgot about this thread...

May as well throw the finished conversion of the hat that started this thread up here

Work by DOGMAN ... quite a while ago

Fantastic work

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I just gotta get around to hitting him up for one of these liners.

moontheloon · Mar 8, 2017

Redfokker said:
I just gotta get around to hitting him up for one of these liners.

they are cheap my man ... almost underpriced as far as I'm concerned ... but shhh

Chuck you didn't hear that

seriously they are fantastic !!!

hit him up

humanshoes · Mar 8, 2017

I agree with Esther that a rounding jack is not strictly a necessity for achieving acceptable results and with Dogman that, if you have some woodworking skills and scrap wood, you can make yourself a jack that will work just fine. I used a compass with a white tailor's pencil and an exacto knife for my first few brim trims, but when I got busy making multiple hats that process didn't make sense time wise so it was into the shop to develop a sturdy, adjustable jack. Even with a proper rounding jack, though, I soon found out that there is some skill involved to make sure the end cut meets the starting cut and there is always a certain margin for error. Still, if you just gotta have a rounding jack, shoot me a PM.

DOGMAN · Mar 8, 2017

Thanks,Moon....What?..I didn't hear nothing.It's cool to see the Moon dog 1,that was a fun conversion.Humanshoes,I agree even with a rounding jack it takes a little practice to make sure the end cut meets the starting cut.

humanshoes · Mar 8, 2017

DOGMAN said:
Thanks,Moon....What?..I didn't hear nothing.It's cool to see the Moon dog 1,that was a fun conversion.Humanshoes,I agree even with a rounding jack it takes a little practice to make sure the end cut meets the starting cut.

Yep, made a few hats with narrower brims than originally intended. Hah!

FedOregon · Mar 10, 2017

I picked up a "Beater" Stetson No. 1 Quality here on the FL. I got to looking at it and took out the glued in liner, then removed the awful man-made sweat. I snipped the sewing for the ribbon and took it off also. Only the brim binding remains and it looks pretty good. The hat is filthy inside and out, and has a lot of dirt under the ribbon, and it's crushed on one side. I'm thinking to get some naptha and see how the felt looks after a little bath soak and cleaning. The paint (?) on the front brim may not come out. I may try some light sanding later to see if that works.

The pictures do not do justice to the amount of dirt on this hat. I'll take more pics to show the bad moth hole that sits right on the bottom of the ribbon. It's fairly big and goes all the way through the felt. It is pretty good size, but the felt feels pretty strong there still. I wonder if the hat would take a reblocking or not, just to move the hole up onto the area that will be covered by the ribbon...

But guess what? The hat fits pretty good without the sweat installed! I guess it could be a featherweight now, LOL. I'll take some pics as I go. My No. 1 Quality Beater!

Hey, has anyone everyone stripped down a hat and the re-blocked it so the front is switched to the back? This could take care of the moth hole(s) and the paint on the front brim... just a thought.

RJR · Mar 10, 2017

FedOregon said:
I picked up a "Beater" Stetson No. 1 Quality here on the FL. I got to looking at it and took out the glued in liner, then removed the awful man-made sweat. I snipped the sewing for the ribbon and took it off also. Only the brim binding remains and it looks pretty good. The hat is filthy inside and out, and has a lot of dirt under the ribbon, and it's crushed on one side. I'm thinking to get some naptha and see how the felt looks after a little bath soak and cleaning. The paint (?) on the front brim may not come out. I may try some light sanding later to see if that works.

The pictures do not do justice to the amount of dirt on this hat. I'll take more pics to show the bad moth hole that sits right on the bottom of the ribbon. It's fairly big and goes all the way through the felt. It is pretty good size, but the felt feels pretty strong there still. I wonder if the hat would take a reblocking or not, just to move the hole up onto the area that will be covered by the ribbon...

But guess what? The hat fits pretty good without the sweat installed! I guess it could be a featherweight now, LOL. I'll take some pics as I go. My No. 1 Quality Beater!

Hey, has anyone everyone stripped down a hat and the re-blocked it so the front is switched to the back? This could take care of the moth hole(s) and the paint on the front brim... just a thought.

Some members have reversed felt front to back and others have flipped the hat inside out and refinished it.

rogerstg · Mar 10, 2017

FedOregon said:
I picked up a "Beater" Stetson No. 1 Quality here on the FL. I got to looking at it and took out the glued in liner, then removed the awful man-made sweat. I snipped the sewing for the ribbon and took it off also. Only the brim binding remains and it looks pretty good. The hat is filthy inside and out, and has a lot of dirt under the ribbon, and it's crushed on one side. I'm thinking to get some naptha and see how the felt looks after a little bath soak and cleaning. The paint (?) on the front brim may not come out. I may try some light sanding later to see if that works.

The pictures do not do justice to the amount of dirt on this hat. I'll take more pics to show the bad moth hole that sits right on the bottom of the ribbon. It's fairly big and goes all the way through the felt. It is pretty good size, but the felt feels pretty strong there still. I wonder if the hat would take a reblocking or not, just to move the hole up onto the area that will be covered by the ribbon...

But guess what? The hat fits pretty good without the sweat installed! I guess it could be a featherweight now, LOL. I'll take some pics as I go. My No. 1 Quality Beater!

Hey, has anyone everyone stripped down a hat and the re-blocked it so the front is switched to the back? This could take care of the moth hole(s) and the paint on the front brim... just a thought.

If it were mine, I'd first see if the front stain/paint will come off. Using a clean white towel, use various solvents to find one that works. Just rub the cloth on in with the solvent to see if it picks up the color. In order, I try water, alcohol (great for latex paint), naphtha, acetone and xylene. If one works, I use a "saturate and blot" technique until the stain is gone or at least unnoticeable.

Then I'd go to the naphtha bath to clean everything. If that works well...
I'd tackle the hole. It looks like the ribbon can be made to mostly cover the area. I'd sand the inside of the hat to gather felt fibers. Then use the fibers to create a glue solution to fill the hole. I've used white glue, and IIRC, a member here has used spray adhesive to fix moth holes. It won't need to be perfect since the ribbon will camouflage it some.

FedOregon · Mar 11, 2017

rogerstg said:
If it were mine, I'd first see if the front stain/paint will come off. Using a clean white towel, use various solvents to find one that works. Just rub the cloth on in with the solvent to see if it picks up the color. In order, I try water, alcohol (great for latex paint), naphtha, acetone and xylene. If one works, I use a "saturate and blot" technique until the stain is gone or at least unnoticeable.

Then I'd go to the naphtha bath to clean everything. If that works well...
I'd tackle the hole. It looks like the ribbon can be made to mostly cover the area. I'd sand the inside of the hat to gather felt fibers. Then use the fibers to create a glue solution to fill the hole. I've used white glue, and IIRC, a member here has used spray adhesive to fix moth holes. It won't need to be perfect since the ribbon will camouflage it some.

Sound advice. Thanks for the tips. And @RJR , too, thanks for the info! You guys are great!

I don't know how well these pics will show the extent of the dirt. It's nasty. Uneven lighting makes it hard to photograph. But the stain on the front is pretty visible next to my fingers, and the hole is gaping wide, relatively speaking.

rogerstg · Mar 11, 2017

That project looks a bit "challenging"

bond · Mar 11, 2017

Here's a Vintage Stetson thin ribbon that had staining issues so I converted it to a Whippet style fedora . Love this color combo a lot . I didn't know the felt was this color until after I cleaned it and was pleasantly surprised.

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Redfokker · Mar 11, 2017

FedOregon said:
Sound advice. Thanks for the tips. And @RJR , too, thanks for the info! You guys are great!

I don't know how well these pics will show the extent of the dirt. It's nasty. Uneven lighting makes it hard to photograph. But the stain on the front is pretty visible next to my fingers, and the hole is gaping wide, relatively speaking.

Another trip to Eugene, or are you going to try a chemical bath? I see the makings of a nice fedora there.

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