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Honest opinions about this jacket
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BobJ
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Jacket is sharp and striking, and you wear it well.
The only thing I would do is take off those overly large zipper pulls on the sleeve zips - I think they would annoy me.
The only thing I would do is take off those overly large zipper pulls on the sleeve zips - I think they would annoy me.
Edward
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I'd be interested to know what model this is. Can't comment on quality from a photo (I wasn't impressed by recent fashion Belstaffs I've handled, but I gather they still do very good quality dedicated motorcycling wear), but it looks fine to me. It reminds me of a simplified version of the Belstaff models that look like a shortened Trialmaster, cut off around waist height, no belt. Steve Macqueen wore one in leather, though (asd with the Trialmaster) they're ore commonly seen now in wax cotton.
It'll look odd if you're perceiving it as a cafe racer type, but when you look at it as an evolution of this style - simplified, without as many pockets - the shape of your makes more sense. These Belstaff jackets were never designed to be worn in the sort of second-skin look that is popular with many of the cafe racer crowd. Different beast altogether.
It'll look odd if you're perceiving it as a cafe racer type, but when you look at it as an evolution of this style - simplified, without as many pockets - the shape of your makes more sense. These Belstaff jackets were never designed to be worn in the sort of second-skin look that is popular with many of the cafe racer crowd. Different beast altogether.
Don’t worry, it looks really good on you! You said you feel good in it, so just wear it, man!
Photos are just one little thing. If you are comfy moving around in this jacket, it’ll look awesome on you. To me a jacket in motion always looks better when somebody feels confident in it and is comfy.
Photos are just one little thing. If you are comfy moving around in this jacket, it’ll look awesome on you. To me a jacket in motion always looks better when somebody feels confident in it and is comfy.
l0fielectronic
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Agree with everything about the 2nd photo, looks much better and shold be comfortable as a daily jacket.
I like how they've toned down the sleeve branding a bit too, I always found the gold badges a bit much.
*I think* the OP's model is called the outlaw.
I noticed this seasons version of the cougar jacket now has two poppers at the bottom rather than the buckle, which whilst giving less adjustment does look a whole lot neater. They also do one with a straight zip it seems from looking at the website today.
I like how they've toned down the sleeve branding a bit too, I always found the gold badges a bit much.
*I think* the OP's model is called the outlaw.
I noticed this seasons version of the cougar jacket now has two poppers at the bottom rather than the buckle, which whilst giving less adjustment does look a whole lot neater. They also do one with a straight zip it seems from looking at the website today.
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I'd be interested to know what model this is. Can't comment on quality from a photo (I wasn't impressed by recent fashion Belstaffs I've handled, but I gather they still do very good quality dedicated motorcycling wear), but it looks fine to me. It reminds me of a simplified version of the Belstaff models that look like a shortened Trialmaster, cut off around waist height, no belt. Steve Macqueen wore one in leather, though (asd with the Trialmaster) they're ore commonly seen now in wax cotton.
That's Lewis Leathers. Universal Racer MK2. Also my grail jacket.
ProteinNerd
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Don't over think this one...it looks great.
Sure you can nit pick specific details but look at what the average guy out there is wearing, they wish they looked like this on a good day.
Sure you can nit pick specific details but look at what the average guy out there is wearing, they wish they looked like this on a good day.
Edward
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It's a bit subtler, certainly - though I think the gold wore off fairly quickly (at least, it used to - may have changed). If memory serves, you used to be able to rub off the gold paint on this sort of thing with a dab of nail varnish remover.
Which one - Macqueen's?
I do rather like the Lewis UR, especially the brown one. Would make for a very cool early motorcycle jacket look; I hope they expand the armouring line they have with Urban Rider in that direction.
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Edward
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Yep, Steve's, on that photo you posted. That's my favorite from LL.
Ah! For some reason I thought that one was a Belstaff as well. (I think they made a similar model back in the day).
I'd love one of those in a heavier hide with armour. It'd be a perfect model for Lewis to do that with.
Fred Holden
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Yes agreed! Much better to see you with natural lighting and not so close up. Only thing I could comment on is that the back might be a little loose (visible in first photos) however if you want to layer under it, that's a benefit.
So what model of Belstaff is that one? I tried out one a few years back that had a wool lining, it belonged to a friend and he handed it to be for my opinion on it. First thing I noticed was how comfortable it really was as soon as I put it on. It was a very similar style as the one you now own. Not sure steer/horsehide but it was a very nice jacket indeed.
I see you are new here, Welcome!! Is this your first leather jacket? Wow a Belstaff is so much better a jacket than anything I owned for many years. And do hold tight to your wallet, lots of temptations for expenditures around these parts. And as long as you are happy with the jacket -- that's what matters!
It's an Outlaw. That's one of the things that sold me on it, it's the first jacket I've tried on that really felt like a second skin. I have a made to measure Aero Wayfarer - almost sold it to make room for this one, but I think I'll keep both to be honest. The FQHH is just so hardcore, it's a pain in the arse to carry around in the day when you know you'll need it at night! It's nice to have a lightweight and heavyweight jacket, being that leather is my go to outerwear.
Fred Holden
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PS, just saw there were loads more replies than I got emails, sorry for not responding to everyone! I have decided to keep the jacket and get the sleeves shortened and tapered slightly. The tailor I went to (Hassan in Bristol) didn't seem too phased by the job and quoted me £100.00, which seems reasonable.
Has anyone had this type of alteration done to leather before?
Has anyone had this type of alteration done to leather before?
AeroFan_07
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Seems a little high to me, however I have the benefit of an Amish saddle shop about 30 miles away that does great work for very little coin.
Drop a photo of the Wayfarer on here sometime on you. I've never seen one in person or handled that design. How long have you owned it?
Drop a photo of the Wayfarer on here sometime on you. I've never seen one in person or handled that design. How long have you owned it?
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Yeah, that's a bit high... No tailor I've been to asked for more than $20 - $30 for that kinda work. They just open the sleeve at around the elbow and taper it a bit. Or have they planned on tapering the whole thing from the top/shoulder? I'd advise against that as they have to open the entire jacket and that rarely works out well. . .
I don't see any seams other than that on the rear that is patched by the elbowpad, maybe that explained the fee...
so perhaps they need to unstitched the elbow pad, trim the sleeve, and patch back the pad? I hope the pattern on the patch is standalone on the patch only and not sewn through onto the sleeve.
does the sleeve have another seam maybe in the inner side of the arm?
if not, then perhaps the easiest, less risky option is to add a "dart" on the inside of the elbow down to cuff rather than breaking open the rear seam which has double stitching and stitched halfway the elbow pad
so perhaps they need to unstitched the elbow pad, trim the sleeve, and patch back the pad? I hope the pattern on the patch is standalone on the patch only and not sewn through onto the sleeve.
does the sleeve have another seam maybe in the inner side of the arm?
if not, then perhaps the easiest, less risky option is to add a "dart" on the inside of the elbow down to cuff rather than breaking open the rear seam which has double stitching and stitched halfway the elbow pad
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Fred Holden
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There is a clear Sean that doesn't go through the patch so that wouldn't be it. Maybe I went to the wrong guy. I'll shop around a few other places. In the meantime I'm really enjoying wearing the jacket outside. I'll get a pic up of the wayfarer at some point yeah. It's worn in nicely after just over a year and is quite understated considering the slightly western pattern
