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Big J · Sep 12, 2017

@Seb, yeah, I think Nazis are essential for Indy movies to work; 1 & 3 were great, 2 & 4 were awful, and at least one reason for that is the lack of nazis. Don't get me wrong, Blanchett did her best as a kind of fetish Soviet domina, but it's not Indy's bag baby.
In addition to switching out the Nazis, 4 was especially bad for adding aliens. I can suspend my disbelief for the occult or aliens, but not both at the same time.

Maybe nazis have been overused, and the occult done to death, and there's no storyline that you could give an Indy movie that would work anymore? In which case, let the body of work stand and move on.

What we are seeing is like Star Wars; a kind of corporate 'strip mining' that will keep shoving out processed cr8p under the franchise brand name for precisely as long as the can con movie goers into paying for it. Sad, because that's what the market wants.

scottyrocks · Sep 12, 2017

Indy came out of a nuclear blast just find. Maybe they should send him after Kim Jong-un's first binky.

Edward · Sep 13, 2017

PeterGunnLives said:
I dunno... my grandfather was eighteen years older than my grandmother.
I don't understand why it should be a big deal. True love goes beyond such differences.

Eighteen years isn't close to it in Hollywood - unless the man is only in his early forties. Much more typically they're pairing men in their sixties and up with women in their twenties. Which is absurd.

Edward · Sep 13, 2017

I'm not convinced the Nazis are necessary. IT's a very different proposition to Star Wars, though. Whereas there'
s a lot of scope for Disney to ruin Indy, when they first took over Star Wars it was impossible for them to make as bad a mess of it as Lucas already had.

Seb Lucas · Sep 29, 2017

Just saw Ford interviewed for the Blade Runner sequel. Jeez, he looks good but is pretty darn old. If they use him for Indiana Jones again and decide on Nazis they will need to set it in South America in the 1950's with Nazi's who fled there with some arcane loot at the end of the war.

Zombie_61 · Sep 29, 2017

Seb Lucas said:
Just saw Ford interviewed for the Blade Runner sequel. Jeez, he looks good but is pretty darn old...

He looks healthier than a lot of 75-year-olds despite the injuries he's racked up over the years, but, yeah, the mileage is starting to show a bit. I'd still rather watch him read names out of a phone book for an hour than watch five minutes of anything that most of these young "up and coming" actors would do.

Seb Lucas · Sep 29, 2017

Zombie_61 said:
He looks healthier than a lot of 75-year-olds despite the injuries he's racked up over the years, but, yeah, the mileage is starting to show a bit. I'd still rather watch him read names out of a phone book for an hour than watch five minutes of anything that most of these young "up and coming" actors would do.

Of course I remember people saying similar things about Ford when he was up and coming - "He's not as good as Bogart, Newman or Heston..."

Time flies past - Ford is probably too old to be Dr Jones and frankly, I'm probably too old to watch the movies.

Tiki Tom · Jan 20, 2018

Movement!
Rumor has it that Steven Spielberg will direct and it may be next in his line-up.
All in all, it is encouraging, assuming they have a half ways decent script. (Would Spielberg have taken it on, otherwise?)

http://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/...nes-5-is-reportedly-next-for-steven-spielberg

Edward · Jan 20, 2018

I just hope they're using Ford as a framing device to introduce the "new Indy". He's just too old to be credible now, otherwise.

redlinerobert · Jan 20, 2018

Edward said:
I just hope they're using Ford as a framing device to introduce the "new Indy". He's just too old to be credible now, otherwise.

Too old? 70 is the new 50.

Zombie_61 · Jan 21, 2018

Edward said:
I just hope they're using Ford as a framing device to introduce the "new Indy". He's just too old to be credible now, otherwise.

I don't disagree, but I also don't really want to see anyone else in the role. I know it'll happen some day, I'm just not ready for it yet.

Edward · Jan 22, 2018

redlinerobert said:
Too old? 70 is the new 50.

Yeah, but as the man himself once said, "It's not the years, it's the mileage."

Zombie_61 said:
I don't disagree, but I also don't really want to see anyone else in the role. I know it'll happen some day, I'm just not ready for it yet.

I completely get where you're coming from. I think I'm more invested in this in some ways than a lot of folks in that I'm the fan who quite liked Crystal Skull, but I think one just has to accept it's going to happen on the basis that Disney didn't pay out for the property not to use it again...

scottyrocks · Jan 22, 2018

Edward said:
I'm the fan who quite liked Crystal Skull,

Oh, so you're the one!

Lean'n'mean · Jan 22, 2018

redlinerobert said:
Too old? 70 is the new 50.

He's 75 & 75 is the new 75.

Bushman · Jan 22, 2018

I feel like this is going to either be a "passing the mantle" movie done better than KotCS was done (and I half-way like KotCS), or a retelling of an old tale done mostly in flashback with a "new Indy" as a sorts. Disney will then use New Indy to tell new stories with either Ford introducing them or without Ford completely. I just hope to whoever's in charge of this that they don't let Alden Ehrenreich anywhere near the audition stand. The guy is playing Han Solo in the next Star Wars movie, and he looks NOTHING like Harrison Ford.

Zombie_61 · Jan 22, 2018

Edward said:
...I completely get where you're coming from. I think I'm more invested in this in some ways than a lot of folks in that I'm the fan who quite liked Crystal Skull, but I think one just has to accept it's going to happen on the basis that Disney didn't pay out for the property not to use it again...

Crystal Skull seems to have become a pass/fail test movie for fans of the franchise, and if you like it at all you're banned from the clubhouse. I acknowledge it's flaws but found more to like than dislike, so I guess I'm in the "I like it, but..." camp. I definitely don't dislike it as much as I dislike Temple of Doom. That being said, if the fifth movie will be Ford's last in the role (which seems likely) I'd like to see him go out in a movie that satisfies the vast majority of Indy fans; I think that will make the transition to the "new" Indy easier to accept.

Bushman said:
...I just hope to whoever's in charge of this that they don't let Alden Ehrenreich anywhere near the audition stand. The guy is playing Han Solo in the next Star Wars movie, and he looks NOTHING like Harrison Ford.

I've said this before, but I'd much rather they cast an actor who captures the essence of the character rather than someone who looks and acts like Ford. I've only seen Ehrenreich in one movie, but I'm not convinced he's the guy.

Bushman · Jan 22, 2018

I hear Ehrenreich got the role because Spielberg took a shine to him at some Hollywood shindig. Everyone I've talked to would have preferred Anthony Ingruber to Ehrenreich. Furthermore, reports from the set say that Ehrenreich can't act.

Ingruber, on the other hand... he's got the swagger of Ford himself:

Edward · Jan 22, 2018

It is interesting that this is such a sticking point for us all.... Yet three other actors have played young Indy and I don't think any of us were bothered by that.

I agree, though, ultimately character and charm are more important.

Zombie_61 · Jan 23, 2018

Edward said:
It is interesting that this is such a sticking point for us all.... Yet three other actors have played young Indy and I don't think any of us were bothered by that. ...

Three? I'm aware of River Phoenix in Last Crusade who I thought was miscast, and Sean Patrick Flanery in The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles which I never watched. Who is/was the third?

Lean'n'mean · Jan 23, 2018

Zombie_61 said:
Three? I'm aware of River Phoenix in Last Crusade who I thought was miscast, and Sean Patrick Flanery in The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles which I never watched. Who is/was the third?

Corey Carrier who played boy indy in the 'chronicles' thingy.

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