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From the Cherokee or Piqua tribes. Beadwork is exquisite for it's age.
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Western, anyone?
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Amazing...
M Hatman
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HOLY CATS!!!!!!! WOW!!!! What a cool piece of history you have there!!!!! Just ....WOW!!!!
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Not mine but I wish it was. I have some nice beadwork but they are all Native American contemporary examples.
This hat is up for sale for $850.00.
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I would say that is a bargain actually......wish I had the money just now........
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I would think it was well worth that. It looks like it belongs in a museum.
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Good alcohol and the ignore button can be a godsend applied @ the right time in the right amount
That is one of the few hats I have said, "WOW!" when seeing it. $850 does seem a bargain. Agreed it needs to be in a museum and not sitting in my office. Thanks for the photos. What a cool piece of hat and Native American history.
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I get a laugh out of the movie Tombstone. Pretty clear that Sam Elliot has a seriously LO head
If by that you're referring to the front & rear brim dip, I think that's more Elliot's prefered style rather than the effects of a long oval.....he often wears that shape of brim in his westerns & I guess he has enough clout to 'influence' his movie costumes, in the hat department anyhow.
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Absolutely you could be right on both accounts, his style and his influence. But I'd bet the hat shape come from his seriously long oval head. Have one my self and can take a perfectly flat hat in my size (even marked long oval) put it on and mimic Sam Elliot's style with no further effort. Damn near impossible for me to mimic Kurt Russels flat hat without wearing a hat that is too big for me.
Take a look at Elliot and Russell in the photo..Paxton as well.
My take would be that Elliot has a thin, long oval head shape. Russell's a rounded face and head. Paxton in between but more round than Elliot's extremely oblong shape. Never though Paxton's hat actually fit him (for size) very well in the movie. Some folks are easy to fit "properly" some aren't. I guess I should preference that as I see "properly" as fitting pretty snuggly/tight so they don't get blown off in the wind. Much easier to fit and shape a loose fitting hat where your head shape matters less. Much easier to get a hat to stay on if you have little or no contact with hair on the sweat band line. Just my simple observations.....doesn't mean your points aren't well taken.
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Tom Hirt made many hats for Sam Elliot. He told me that the shape of his head caused the dip of his brim.
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While I don't have the mustache....that would be Selleck, I do seem to have the same head shape as Elliot
Here is a hat body fresh out of the long oval hat block prior to any forming.
On the counter...perfectly flat
On my squished, little oblong head (long, long oval shape) it turns to what you see below...with a sharp snap front and back. Wore it enough to not be very partial to the look these days. I suspect Sam Elliot's head shape makes me look like a fairly round head shape
30 years ago...
Here is a hat body fresh out of the long oval hat block prior to any forming.
On the counter...perfectly flat
On my squished, little oblong head (long, long oval shape) it turns to what you see below...with a sharp snap front and back. Wore it enough to not be very partial to the look these days. I suspect Sam Elliot's head shape makes me look like a fairly round head shape
30 years ago...
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I like the look.While I don't have the mustache....that would be Selleck, I do seem to have the same head shape as Elliot
Here is a hat body fresh out of the long oval hat block prior to any forming.
On the counter...perfectly flat
On my squished, little oblong head (long, long oval shape) it turns to what you see below...with a sharp snap front and back. Wore it enough to not be very partial to the look these days. I suspect Sam Elliot's head shape makes me look like a fairly round head shape
30 years ago...
Yahoody
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Yahoody
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And what Sam Elliot's hat could look like if they had a hatter to fit him properly. Same hat as previous after just a little work with the steam iron for a long oval head shape. This is why folks make the effort to buy a custom fitted felt hat.
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Greetings Yahoody et al:
I tried to make a reply post a few back during your tutorial but got to big a file, error...blah blah, so i’ll freehand it.
Your effort, time and artistic craftmanship are beyond my comprehension. Your dialogue and explanations leave little to inquire about. I am transfixed as if i am there crafting alongside. That is a true gift grounded in passion Sir. My admiration. Sappy, i know!!
Now my question: steam ironing, what temp setting do you use for wet or dry felt and do you always use steam?
Look forward to your next installment.
Be well. Bowen
I tried to make a reply post a few back during your tutorial but got to big a file, error...blah blah, so i’ll freehand it.
Your effort, time and artistic craftmanship are beyond my comprehension. Your dialogue and explanations leave little to inquire about. I am transfixed as if i am there crafting alongside. That is a true gift grounded in passion Sir. My admiration. Sappy, i know!!
Now my question: steam ironing, what temp setting do you use for wet or dry felt and do you always use steam?
Look forward to your next installment.
Be well. Bowen
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Hi Bowen! Glad you are enjoying it. I'll add your question and my answer to the hat built thread later.
I always use steam along with the iron set on high for both wet and dry felt. More stream than ironing really. I have a thumb pump on the iron and I just keep pumping puffs of steam as I run the iron around. The key here is keeping a layer of material between the iron and the hat. I use a fine cotton apron or a tea towel of my wife's out of the kitchen. But what ever you do, never, ever hit the felt directly with an iron. Heat is tough on felt. Steam too. So you always want one degree of separation to save your felt.
If I didn't answer your question..ask again please
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Flat brim, open crown, 5 x 5. A hat with a world of potential
