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    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch
    Whatcha spinnin', Cuz?
    Oh Man, if it's from the 30s-40s and it's hot, I like it.

    Used to spin lots of mid- to late-20s stuff (the whole slew of labels, cameo / banner / oriole / romeo / etc), but now am more into 30s-40s... on the grammo, usually early 30s depression stuff: Boswell Sisters, Mills Brothers, early Crosby, and whenever I could find them for $1, the likes of Jelly Roll, King Oliver & Armstrong (tho only a couple are actually 1st-pressings; mainly columbia/Bluebird/Brunswick reissue 78s for those guys...). Some potato head Whitemans when Beiderbecke was with him. stuff like that.

    But my fave by far for depression era is ELLINGTON. (thought for a sec that your last label you posted was one of Ellington's under one of his many pseudonyms!) Close after him, picked up every early Cab Calloway I ever saw back in the fleamarket days - even got Cab to autograph an original from his first Perfect session, at one of his last concerts before the stroke.

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    Show us your gramophones, victrolas, phonographs, etc.

    I'm looking into buying my first victrola machine. There are some great bargains on eBay, the problem is no one wants to ship them and there are no local sellers.

    Those of you who have some experience in the field, do you think a table top Victrola from the 1920's/30's, fully functioning and in good condition is worth about $200?

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    And yes, such a machine should be worth $200. But I see few bargains on eBay these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alon
    Those of you who have some experience in the field, do you think a table top Victrola from the 1920's/30's, fully functioning and in good condition is worth about $200?
    That's a reasonable price assesment, unless you happen to be looking at a rare machine. The Victor VV-50 is one that would likely fall into that price category. It's a fairly easy one to find (I have two - one is restored, the other awaiting restoration).
    There are some repro gramophones available with brass horns that might be a viable possibility. These have the HMV (His Master's Voice) label. They are usually made in India, where they supposedly found a large cache of vintage wind-up record player mechanisms in storage (so I'm told). They have built these replicas around them, and they show up on eBay at varying prices. One seller of these that I've seen is from the US and charges around $39 shipping. I saw another from Canada but the shipping wasn't specified. I have one of these machines (it's in the background in my avatar), and it works well enough, it just doesn't sound as nice as my VV-50. There are also some repro Victors out there that are coming out of China. Stay away from these, as the price is right but they'll sock you for around $500 shipping. They describe them as a rare 19th century gramophone, yet you'll see about 25 of them listed. How rare is that?
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    I agree with the others that $200 is a fair price for a nice, functional but common tabletop Victrola.

    But, the kind of records you want to play needs to be taken into consideration. If you like acoustically recorded records from 1925 and earlier, a machine like a Victrola IX will be just fine. However, if you prefer electrically recorded records from 1925 to the mid-1930s, you need an Orthophonic Victrola which has a more compliant soundbox (these tend to be harder to find and more pricey since they were made for a shorter period of time). If your tastes run to big band music of the late 1930s and 1940s, a portable Victrola from that era with an even more compliant soundbox will work best.

    With spring coming on, the outdoor flea markets will be opening up soon. These can be a good source of fairly priced Victrolas...if you're persistent!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KilroyCD
    That's a reasonable price assesment, unless you happen to be looking at a rare machine. The Victor VV-50 is one that would likely fall into that price category. It's a fairly easy one to find (I have two - one is restored, the other awaiting restoration).
    There are some repro gramophones available with brass horns that might be a viable possibility. These have the HMV (His Master's Voice) label. They are usually made in India, where they supposedly found a large cache of vintage wind-up record player mechanisms in storage (so I'm told). They have built these replicas around them, and they show up on eBay at varying prices. One seller of these that I've seen is from the US and charges around $39 shipping. I saw another from Canada but the shipping wasn't specified. I have one of these machines (it's in the background in my avatar), and it works well enough, it just doesn't sound as nice as my VV-50. There are also some repro Victors out there that are coming out of China. Stay away from these, as the price is right but they'll sock you for around $500 shipping. They describe them as a rare 19th century gramophone, yet you'll see about 25 of them listed. How rare is that?
    I respectfully submit that one should generally stay away from these "repro" crank phonographs from India. They are cheaply built and their performance and reliability is lacking. Click here for more info. If used for decoration, they might suffice...but if you want to actually play and enjoy vintage 78's - buy a Victrola. Vintage records sound best on a vintage machine! You can purchase (as stated before) a decent VV-50 portable for a reasonable amount. Working on them is relatively simple and Victor Talking Machine made quality phonographs with quality cabinetwork and was the standard of the industry. Plus the sheer volume of models made makes finding parts a snap (try finding ANYTHING for an off-brand phonograph). Plenty of on and off-line support from other hobbyists, as well. My first Victrola was a mahogany VV-50 and it's performance was stellar...since then I keep at least one Victrola on hand. My VV-300 is pictured below playing a Billy Murray tune ("There Must be Little Cupids in the Briny")

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