Precisely David.............Irish......potato.......Never mind, I think it fizzled.Originally Posted by David Conwill
Precisely David.............Irish......potato.......Never mind, I think it fizzled.
This is a bit of history I've always been interested in. Its cool to see reenactment groups for it so that way more people can learn about it.
"To Hell or Barbados" is a must-read book for anyone interested in the history of Ireland.
The nonfiction book "To Hell or Barbados: The Ethnic Cleansing of Ireland" by Sean O'Callaghan describes a sad period in history that is generally ignored by historians. In the seventeenth century, Oliver Cromwell encouraged the mass slaughter, enslavement, and deportation of Irish men, women, and children for various reasons, the primary one being that the Protestant English overclass regarded the Catholic Irish as subhuman and not christian.
During this period, the entire British Slave Fleet was diverted from their triangular course from England to West Africa to the New World to transport the captive Irishmen to the New World as "Indentured Servants". (This is why Marcus Garvey put the symbolic Irish Green on the Black Liberation flag - Garvey considered the what the Irish had suffered had made them brothers in the struggle for equality.)
Irish priests were hunted down like wolves and Irish soldiers exiled to Spain or France, while rebels and widows alike were forcibly sent to Barbados in the Caribbean as indentured servants or slaves. People were sent to Hell (the mainland or "Virginia" plantations) or to Barbados (slang for any of the islands) to work on the sugar plantations. This book chronicles what happened to them. Beatings, whippings, torture, rape, and humiliation were just some of the terrible indecencies that these people suffered because they were Catholic and Irish.
The narrative moves from Cromwell's invasion and occupation of Ireland (including the ethnic cleansing of the Six Counties and re-population with Scots-Irish Protestants) to the treatment of the surviving Irish and deportation to the Caribbean and the modern-day descendants of the Irish on Barbados. In between, you will get a detailed and informative account of life in Ireland during the seventeenth century while at war in the UK and as plantation owners and slaves in the Caribbean. There is even a chapter on Irish buccaneers.
The book also explains how all these poor white people got transported to the American South (along with their Celtic music and taste for whiskey) and how they subsequently became a perpetual underclass.
Cold are the hands of time that creep along relentlessly, destroying slowly but without pity...
See the review above.
Cold are the hands of time that creep along relentlessly, destroying slowly but without pity...
I don't wish to drift this thread any further away from it's intended topic, but I would be remiss not to piggy-back off your recommendation on into the 19th century with a book which is another great read by a personal favorite, Maine author and native James Mundy, and his book (possibly out of stock), "Hard Times, Hard Men," the story of the Irish in Maine from 1830-1860. Published by Harp Publications, Cape Elizabeth.
A phenomenal read and after I put it down all I could remember saying was, "I had no idea......"
Me also, due to me fahmily bein Oirish on side, this is a good resource
http://libraryautomation.com/nymas/irishcivilwar.html
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Small World Factor : I've known Paul Walsh for the last 20 years and rode shotgun with him up to NYC when he first delivered that paper to NYMAS.
The wartime diary of Kriegsmarine Oberleutnant z.S. Max von Zatorski.
https://www.facebook.com/SeeklarDiaries
Of course it did not end there because they died like flies from msiotreatment and the weather and this was one of the reasons for the import of ''hardier' Africans who were even more poorly treated. Barbados would today be a predominately white country if the Irish had survived en masse.
The Irish have a long history of mercenary recruitment. The Louisiana Purchase territories (when owned briefly by Spain) were in great measure garrisoned with Irish trrops from the Irish regiments specially recruited into the Spanish army. You see Irish mercenaries in the book El Cid.
The French General MacMahon that commanded the French in the Franco-Prussian War of 1870 was descended from these Irish refugees.
I just had a fleeting mental image of Irish dreadlocks.
As well as 'official' mercenarism, where the waves of immigrants where recruited right off the boats during the Mexican-American and Civil Wars.
The wartime diary of Kriegsmarine Oberleutnant z.S. Max von Zatorski.
https://www.facebook.com/SeeklarDiaries
I just had a fleeting mental image of Irish dreadlocks.
As well as 'official' mercenarism, where the waves of immigrants where recruited right off the boats during the Mexican-American and Civil Wars.
Anthony Quinn the actor's father was one wasn't he?
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