I don't like Conk's, no holding power whatsoever. It's more like perfumed Vasoline. I have a couple jars of Conk's that I use to experiment with. I'll add melted beeswax, and adjust the consistency till I get a wax that is stiff. If you use to much beeswax though, the wax will not be pliable and will be flaky. I have heard of a wax named "Cowboy 'Stache Wax" that is suposed to be pretty good. I have only found one place online that sells it. Buckaroo Honda. I can get a pretty good Wyatt Earp, but it takes about a year of growth. My kids cry every time I shave off my moustache.