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Thread: Iron Sky - Nazis on the Moon

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    You know who will fight the Moon Nazis?

    Matthew Carberry

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    One of the Regulars splatt's Avatar
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    Certainly does look interesting, and they have put a fair bit of work and effort into it as well...can't wait to see this one
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    One Too Many Jerekson's Avatar
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    This I will be looking forward to. Definitely takes my interest.

    Seems like a good companion to Sky Captain.

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    It always drives me nuts when something is supposed to be on the "dark" side of the moon.
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    I recall reading in one of those old aviation mags, maybe Airpower/Wings (may they rest in peace) a story about a German project to build a three stage ballistic missile that would carry a bomb carrying craft around the planet, drop an atomic bomb on New York, and glide back to Germany. Ths idea was for real, with detailed drawings, etc. But it needed maybe 15 years and a few trillion Marks to develop it. One of the zillions of remarkable aircraft that never got off the drawing boards of German engineers.
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    I didn't notice a release date. I definitely have to see this!
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    One Too Many SamMarlowPI's Avatar
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    why 2018?
    If it's December 1941 in Casablanca, what time is it in New York?

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    I'll Lock Up Story's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamMarlowPI
    why 2018?
    That's how long it's gonna take to raise the rest of the needed funding.

    Tish-boom. I'll be in town all week, folks. Try the chicken!

    I remember reading on some conspiracy theory website, a tale supporting the whole "Nazis in the Artic" wherein the United States Army went hunting down there in 1947/48 and got their clocks cleaned (presumably, just before the Snow Nazis escaped to the moon).

    Photographs of abandoned military surplus tracked vehicles were offered as 'proof' that the Good Guys took casualties.

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    The multi-stage ICBM was already tested before the war ended. The A-4 (V-2) was the basis that became the A-9/A-10. This was Wehrner von Braun's project which gave him a leg up when he came to the US and literally invented our first missile defense systems and of course our little moon trips.

    MANNED A-9/A-10
    The 56,000 lb. thrust engine could be boosted to 67,000 lbs. thrust using Visol-nitric acid burners of the type intended for an improved V-2. It was calculated in 1941 that around 400,000 lbs. thrust was needed to push an A-9/A-10 weighing 85-tons. The much later
    American Atlas developed 365,000 lbs. thrust so this was ambitious.

    It was possible to use six V-2 engines pouring exhaust through one thrust nozzle until a larger, single chamber engine could be developed in a planned three year’s time. The modern Saturn rocket used multiple engines but not a common nozzle. The A-10 first stage would be an enlarged A-4 layout up to 80 feet high and 12 feet in diameter. It would burn for fifty seconds when the winged A-9 and its 67,000 lb. thrust engine would light up.

    Two configurations for the A-9 existed. One looked quite standard and another more like the lifting body fuselage section of the SR-71. The A-7 with this semi-delta wing was the configuration used to test it outside of the wind tunnel. It reduced drag and increased range. The A-9 stood its standard 46.5 feet tall and had an 11.5-foot wingspan with its normal 35,772 lb. weight.

    The A-9 would have an ultimate trajectory of 210 miles high reaching 6,600 MPH before cruising to the East coast for a range of 2,700 miles. As mentioned, the pilot would make corrections to target and eject at an undisclosed height and speed probably with the whole cabin as a unit like the DFS 228. At lower altitude the pilot would then take to his personal parachute after the main cabin chute was still assisting its descent. The A-9would continue to its target with its conventional warhead, an atomic reaction bomb or radiation-spreading device.

    The original idea for the space shuttle came from Dr. Ing. Eugen Sänger's pre-war concept. In 1944 it was revived to some extent for study. Sanger was a ramjet expert and these were being proposed for more projects in late war craft.

    Sänger’s aim was to develop a craft capable of reaching the United States, dropping presumably an A-bomb, and returning to Germany by circling the globe. But his concept was no Schnellbomber in the traditional sense. Before the sound barrier was broken in 1947 by Chuck Yeager the Air Ministry was looking for power to propel aircraft to Mach 3- 2,284 MPH. Willy Messerschmitt, speed demon he was, had his eye on Mach 1 and was working to build a highly modified version of the Me 262 for that goal in early 1945.

    Ramjets were not the answer at the stage of development they were in. He believed that specially fueled turbo-ramjets and/or rocket engines could do the job by “bouncing off the denser atmosphere layers above the earth.” You begin to understand that statement when you realize he was talking about flying at an altitude of 90 miles!

    The small wings (49.2 feet) and tail were only to give directional control during the atmospheric phase of landing of the 92-foot long craft. They wouldn’t do much at the proposed mission height at the edge of space. Successful wind tunnel tests were completed in 1944.

    Ideally, a monorail launch ramp would get the 100-ton vehicle on its way. It would begin mildly at horizontal attitude then incline to near vertical where speed was sufficient to fly using the first stage rocket engine pack. As was calculated for the A-9/A-10 ICBM, the equivalent of six 56,000 lb. thrust A-4 (V-2) engines could lift that weight. At altitude the first stage boost rockets would break away.

    The turbo-ramjet principle is a turbine and compressor ahead of a ramjet. The incoming thin air at ultra high altitude would be compressed and fed to the ramjet where ignition occurred. Bypass ducts, tapping air from the compressor, would give the airflow needed to the afterburner for combustion and great thrust. Fuel candidates were methane and hydrogen. Propellant would contribute 89 tons of the 100-ton projected weight.

    The orbital/intercontinental bomber was to hit Mach 3 and attain an altitude of about 105,000 feet or more but would cruise at about 963 MPH at that height. The probable range was 14,600 miles. But the turbo-ramjet would was only for atmospheric and upper stratospheric use. Once above the thick atmosphere layer much smaller rockets would boost the craft to ultimately 90 miles where it would skip off the thicker atmosphere on its course to the U.S. at 13,000 MPH!
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    Quote Originally Posted by carebear
    Space Nazi's, I hate those guys.
    Wasn't that a line from The Blues Brothers?
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