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    Pipe newbie

    I've always liked the idea of smoking a pipe. and even entertained the thought. One of my friends was smoking his pipe when I was at his house a while back. And I liked the smell of the tobacco. So I went out the other day and bought a pipe and a bag of Captain Black pipe tobacco.

    The pipe was a $10 pipe at my local smoke shop. The box says HaoJue and on the side it says HG-685. I dont know what that means but there you go.

    I make this thread in hopes that the pipe smokers with experience on the board can offer some tips for pipe smoking and pipe care.

    For example I'm having trouble keeping my pipe lit.

    And, do all pipes require a filter even though the guy at the smoke shop says mine doesn't.


    Feel free to pass along your wisdom to me. Also feel free to recommend good pipes and tobacco blends to me.

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    hello there

    Thanks for posting. Always good to read of new pipe smokers.. i like to smoke a pipe and although not a veteran at it.. i do enjoy on a regular basis
    RBH

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    What a coincidence, my friend and I went out in hopes of finding a tobacconist in town just yesterday. The only tobacconist within downtown limits was really just a place to buy cigarettes, but they had the essentials for beginning pipe smoking.

    Picked up a corn cob (with a filter, probably same as yours) for $4, a pouch of Captain Black Royal and a pouch of Prince Albert.

    I don't know if you were told about it, but all pipes require (at the bare minimum) a tamper tool to work (a poker is useful, too). If you didn't pick up a pipe tool, you can use a nail or something that looks like this:

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    The tamper is used to compact the tobacco so that it burns well. In my (very) limited experience, Captain Black can be a little troublesome. It is a bit wet, and if you smoke too hard, it can get VERY hot and cause tongue bite (taking a break for most of today because of that reason). If you have it packed well enough, though, and you smoke it at just the right speed, it's a very enjoyable tobacco (especially for the price). I have read that it is difficult to keep CB lit, as it is fairly wet, but keep at it and you'll get a good smoke going.

    I smoked a bowl with the filter in my pipe, and then took it out to try it without. The smoke is a bit more enjoyable as far as flavour goes, but the heat did rise a bit. All in all, filters are largely unnecessary. Many pipes below the $40 mark come with filters. I really don't see that many pipes over $50 with a filter standard. Again, it's really not very useful.

    As my pipe is corncob, I just scrape out the ash, remove and wash the mouthpiece bit (the proper name escapes me), and let it air dry. I would get some pipe cleaners, which are very inexpensive (especially if you get them from a tobacconist, not the art supply kind).

    As far as tobacco goes, try a little bit of every thing. If you have a good tobacconist in town, he will gladly recommend different blends and styles. Peterson, Dunhill, Samuel Gawith, and GL Pease make very good tobacco, and should be available nationwide. Try tobaccoreviews.com to see what other pipe smokers have said about tobaccos.

    Lastly, don't be afraid to relight your pipe. I'm still learning and I relight 3-5 times a bowl.

    Hope this helps!

    *EDIT*

    I just tried out a new tobacco, Prince Albert, and it stays lit MUCH better. Although it's not a cavendish (personal taste), it's still a very mild and enjoyable smoke. Cheap, too. A 1.5oz(?) pouch was a little over two dollars. I only smoked it for ten or so minutes whilst speaking with a friend and making my way back to my dorm, but had I been smoking Captain Black, I would have had to relight several times.
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    thanks for the tips.

    I'll try the Prince Albert. I bought a three way pipe tool, it has a tamper, a pokey thing, and a spoon looking thing on it. I'll take a picture with my phone of my set up and post it up here.

    I have to keep re lighting the captain black. It doesn't bother me that much. I've just been letting it go out and then relighting it when I want to take a puff. I can usually take about 8-10 pulls off of it before the bowl is cash.

    Any other tips anyone can offer? Blends they like?

    How about how to clean the pipe?

    Or a good way to store my pipe, or other kinds of pouches or bags I can use to store the tobacco so if I want to enjoy my pipe on the go I don't have to carry around the bag it came in.

    Here is a picture of my pipe and stuff

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    *puff*

    That's the right sort of pipe tool to buy. I love those, they're very cheap, effective and rugged.

    If any nearby tobacconists sell their own blends, you should consider those are they might be cheaper than the tinned tobacco. I have settled upon Lexington, a house blend sold only by Edleez, here in Albany, but I smoked several tinned varieties before that. I recommend Dunhill's Standard Mixture Medium and Peterson's Sweet Killarney. I also urge you to avoid Dunhill's Royal Yacht, it provides entirely too much nicotine; I sometimes had trouble walking after smoking it. It is good to sample a range of blends when one begins smoking pipes; someone among the various mixtures of Virginias, Orientals, Latakia, Burley and Cavendish one is bound to find a suitable one.

    Pipe cleaners are all that one will usually need to clean the pipe. Any good tobacconist should carry them, as do art supply stores, although I'm not sure if those are quite as suitable. Avoid any pipe cleaners that are too thick, I find those to be difficult to use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DerMann
    What a coincidence, my friend and I went out in hopes of finding a tobacconist in town just yesterday. The only tobacconist within downtown limits was really just a place to buy cigarettes, but they had the essentials for beginning pipe smoking.

    Picked up a corn cob (with a filter, probably same as yours) for $4, a pouch of Captain Black Royal and a pouch of Prince Albert.

    I don't know if you were told about it, but all pipes require (at the bare minimum) a tamper tool to work (a poker is useful, too). If you didn't pick up a pipe tool, you can use a nail or something that looks like this:

    --------|

    The tamper is used to compact the tobacco so that it burns well. In my (very) limited experience, Captain Black can be a little troublesome. It is a bit wet, and if you smoke too hard, it can get VERY hot and cause tongue bite (taking a break for most of today because of that reason). If you have it packed well enough, though, and you smoke it at just the right speed, it's a very enjoyable tobacco (especially for the price). I have read that it is difficult to keep CB lit, as it is fairly wet, but keep at it and you'll get a good smoke going.

    I smoked a bowl with the filter in my pipe, and then took it out to try it without. The smoke is a bit more enjoyable as far as flavour goes, but the heat did rise a bit. All in all, filters are largely unnecessary. Many pipes below the $40 mark come with filters. I really don't see that many pipes over $50 with a filter standard. Again, it's really not very useful.

    As my pipe is corncob, I just scrape out the ash, remove and wash the mouthpiece bit (the proper name escapes me), and let it air dry. I would get some pipe cleaners, which are very inexpensive (especially if you get them from a tobacconist, not the art supply kind).

    As far as tobacco goes, try a little bit of every thing. If you have a good tobacconist in town, he will gladly recommend different blends and styles. Peterson, Dunhill, Samuel Gawith, and GL Pease make very good tobacco, and should be available nationwide. Try tobaccoreviews.com to see what other pipe smokers have said about tobaccos.

    Lastly, don't be afraid to relight your pipe. I'm still learning and I relight 3-5 times a bowl.

    Hope this helps!

    *EDIT*

    I just tried out a new tobacco, Prince Albert, and it stays lit MUCH better. Although it's not a cavendish (personal taste), it's still a very mild and enjoyable smoke. Cheap, too. A 1.5oz(?) pouch was a little over two dollars. I only smoked it for ten or so minutes whilst speaking with a friend and making my way back to my dorm, but had I been smoking Captain Black, I would have had to relight several times.

    Thanks for all your tips. I went out and bought some pipe cleaners. I also got a pouch of prince albert. It smokes great, I actually smoked a bowl of it when I recorded my show for next week (show is link in signature). I like the Prince Albert.

    I also found a buy 1 get 1 deal for Dutch Masters. Its a Cavendish with Kentucky Straight Bourbon or something like that. I haven't tried it yet because they don't fit in my stash box (an old cigar box).

    I've noticed that you live in Indiana. If you live near my location we could hang out, wear funny hats and smoke our pipes.

    @Delthayre

    Thanks for your tips. I'll see if my local shop has any of their own blends, I don't think they do anymore.

    The pipe cleaners I got work pretty well. One thing that I have noticed is that the metal part that holds the tobacco comes off of the bowl or whatever it is called, I don't know the anatomy of a pipe.

    I was cleaning my pipe for the first time and I noticed a huge build up of crud underneath that thing. I used a paper towel to clean that stuff out.

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    My pipe seems clogged. I have inspected and thoroughly cleaned every section and have found no clog.

    What now?

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    I myself recently started smoking a pipe. Must be some sort of trend.

    Always use pipe cleaners after smoking the pipe. I insert the cleaner, both one way then the other, ALL the way thru so that the end comes into the bowl itself. This removes the carbon deposits from inside the tube part. You don't want that stuff in your lungs. I also leave a clean pipe cleaner in the pipe, when I am not smoking it. This will absorb moisture and keep the pipe ready for smoking.

    What I'm reading says you should NOT smoke the same pipe more than once per 24 hour period. This is to let the pipe "rest". I have however always ignored this, and so far have suffered no ill effects. But I guess for best results you should have two or three pipes in the rotation.

    Carbon "cake" will build up in the bowl, but that's OK. You don't have to scrape it completely empty each time.

    Do some googling and you'll find various pipe sites and blogs. I got my pipe and a sampler of tobaccos from pipesandcigars.com ; they seem like decent folks and will respond to your questions.

    There are two types of pipe tobacco, "aromatic" and "English". Aromatics have a more pleasant smell, and might be fruity or spicy or whatever. These smells are easier for non-smokers to deal with. English tobaccos just smell like pipe tobacco, but some folks will find it nauseating.

    I never got a tamper tool for my pipe, I just use a pair of tweezers that I happened to have, which have a flat end that I use to scoop out the ash, and to tamp down the tobacco. The trick to packing a pipe, is to take a wad of tobacco, fill the bowl loosely, TAMP it down with the tool (it will pack down to half way). Then take a draw on the pipe; it should pass the air easily (not clogged). Refill the bowl with loose tobacco and tamp down again, repeating until the bowl is full.

    For me both the beginning and the end of a bowl are problematic. The beginning of the bowl is hard for me to light, and it takes several passes before it "catches". During this time I sometimes inhale tobacco flakes or even flaming bits of tobacco!

    Once the pipe is going, I can get about 40 minutes out of it, puffing occasionally. Several relights are usually necessary. As the bowl fills with ash, scoop it out gently until you get down to the black tobacco, and re-light if necessary.

    Now the end of the pipe is tricky too. I find that I'm greedy and try to get ALL the puffs down to the very bottom of the bowl, and I inevitably end up sucking ashes at the very end. Ugh! I am trying to see this coming and stop puffing earlier. But I hate to leave unburned tobacco.

    I have not found a "favorite" brand yet; pipesancigars sold me a sampler pack of about six tobaccos. Most of them are OK. I do find though that many people ridicule Captain Black for being too common, or they say it tastes terrible. I guess it is the Budweiser of tobaccos.

    Anyway that's all I know at the moment. Good luck and don't let the cancer get cha!

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    Well thanks a lot guys, after all this pipe talk I went and won an estate pipe on eBay. So, when it gets here and I get set up with some tobacco, I'll be sure to report back with details.
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    I picked up pipe smoking recently aswell, and I love the ritual of packing and lighting the pipe. Though packing the tobacco in just the right way is an art on it's own, I hope to get better at it as time goes by.

    I have to re-lit very often, but I'm told that's just something every rookie has to go through.
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