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    Historic Hillwalking

    There is a nucleus of an interest in historic hillwalking (or vintage hiking) on the forum, but I don't think it has ever had its own thread. If I am wrong, Bartenders please move this thread.

    Here is a "short" from one of Claude Friese-Greene's films made around Britain in the 1920s. It is in Cumbria (the Lake District) in 1926 and includes many scenes that will have people shouting, "I recognise that place!" (it's various parts of Borrowdale of course).

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8xivdW4xNAM

    Note the dress, particularly of the man on the right at breakfast. He is wearing a headscarf (or bandanna as we would call it today) which my father told me was common hiking wear in the 1920s (from the Romany habit, I believe). Now, I habitually wear a bandanna for hiking and on recently turning up to a vintage hike event wearing one was asked to remove it. I later offered this film clip in support of my choice of attire (I was also wearing an almost identical jacket, breeches and boots) and received an apology from the walk leader.

    More contributions on the subject of "Golden Era" hiking gear and experiences are encouraged.

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    "Creeping past" should step in here.
    H.Johnson, are you a member of THE Historic Hillwalkers?


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    Indeed he should.

    I am not a member of the 'official' Historic Hillwalkers as I tend to eschew organisational norms. I like to think of myself as a rebel, in rambling terms en homage to Jack Kerouac, who is my role model for rebellion. Indeed I am thinking of producing a 'stream of consciousness' novel acount of my rambling experiences zig-zagging backwards and forwards across Derbyshire provisionally entitled 'On the Footpath'.

    Seriously, in the UK in the 1920s when the Friese-Greenes films were made, ramblers and cyclists were seen by the establishment (often the land-owners) as radical and subversive. My father and his friends took part in the Trespasses organised by the nascent Ramblers Association (the most famous being the first Kinder Trespass of 1932) when hikers faced the police and (armed) gamekeepers.

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    I look forward to your "rambling novel".

    When you first mentioned the Bandanna, I guessed you meant a neckerchief
    but now I understand- just steer away from the stars and stripes and eagles, I guess. The neckerchief and beret is a bit of a rambling look.

    I am trying to assemble a practical vintage walking/hiking outfit-
    I really should stop looking for new stuff and check all my boxes and suitcases...

    A nice tweed jacket may be on the shopping cards today, though.


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    I know where there is a half-Norfolk 'going spare', just like the chap is wearing in the film. What size are you?

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    Of course you do.
    42"-ish.

    Just what the Dr. ordered.
    You seem oddly familiar... in the deja vous sense,
    rather than being forward in a peculiar way.

    I don't think many Danes will respond to this thread- no hills.
    Sweden and Norway, on the other hand/s...


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    That was a wonderful short H. Johnson. There is also a reference to handkerchiefs being worn by hikers in The Long Weekend : A Social History of Great Britain 1918-1939 By Robert Graves and Alan Hodge. ' ...dressed like pirates, with coloured handkerchiefs around their heads.'

    Other gear and clothing mentioned are berets, open necked shirts, shorts, water proof rucksacks, aluminum cooking utensils, primus stoves and oilskin tents. I've been fascinated by the history of hillwalking in the 1920's and 30's for some time , but have found no books on the subject. Does anyone know if such books exist?
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    The Rambling Traveler is an interesting website.

    http://www.ramblingtraveler.com/
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    Mike,

    Thanks for reminding me of this book - it is THE Robert Graves! (Goodbye to All That, The White Goddess, I Claudius, etc). His collaborator in this (and other works) Alan Hodge was the husband of Graves's mistress Beryl. It's how they did things in those days... The Long Week-end is an interesting read, which I must revisit at the soonest opportunity.

    I have a number of photographs of my parents rambling in the 1920s and 30s, and the clothing is quite striking. The men's cycling shorts are shorter than one would expect and the womens' shorts are positively skimpy! In the 1970s they would almost have passed for hot pants.

    I (and others on the forum) share your interest in walking inter bellum.

    If a history of equipment is what you seek, I assume you know of 'Invisible on Everest' by Mike Parsons and Professor Mary Rose? The title is misleading, it is much more about hillwalking than comquering 'monsters'. Parsons's father started Karrimor, by the way.

    Confused text, but a good read!

    Herbert

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1939
    That was a wonderful short H. Johnson. There is also a reference to handkerchiefs being worn by hikers in The Long Weekend : A Social History of Great Britain 1918-1939 By Robert Graves and Alan Hodge. ' ...dressed like pirates, with coloured handkerchiefs around their heads.'

    Other gear and clothing mentioned are berets, open necked shirts, shorts, water proof rucksacks, aluminum cooking utensils, primus stoves and oilskin tents. I've been fascinated by the history of hillwalking in the 1920's and 30's for some time , but have found no books on the subject. Does anyone know if such books exist?

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    Gave it away there.


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