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    Irvin/B3/A2 inspirations... Burberry aviator jackets

    Hello everyone, first time posting here !

    I was looking for opinions and I thought I could earn lots of good ones among the Fedora community. What I like with these jackets is that it feels like a modern view of classics jackets. Feel free to be honest regarding quality and shape. They are 100% lamb skin and very exclusive (about 5 pieces made worldwide for each size).

    http://uk.burberry.com/fcp/product/c...tegoryurl=true
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    Welcome to the forum. They are not to my taste, but others here will have different opinions. I'm too much of a purist. At £2k plus for the same money you can buy three Eastman 1944 Irvins, or four B-3s or several original Irvins!
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    I tend to side with Andrew. I hope I don't step on any toes here but when I see a high fasion model dressed in a jacket, I know the price will be somewhere out of sight. I also don't like lambskin that much. The lambskin jackets I've seen up close and personal seemed a bit too delicate for my taste. I'd rather save the excess cash and throw it at a really good and accurate Irvin or B3. A modern recreation doesn't have the meaning that even the replicas have.

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    As a modern reimagining of the classic B3 / Irvin look (undoubtedly these jackets carry inspiations from both), they're not bad. While I prefer the originals, it is interesting to see them used not as inviolable models but as a starting point, with elements added (such as pockets) that would be of use to the contemporary civilian...

    With regards to quality and durability, there you might find an issue. When you say lambskin, do you mean that they are a true fleece jacket (the outer being the backside of the sheep's fleece, the skin), or are they a fleece-lined lambskin leather jacket? The latter would, in my opinion, be much less durable. Like Andrew, I fear I would baulk at the price too, given what is available from the established repro makers for much less - Aero and Eastman particularly. Eastman's jackets are somewhat more historically accurate than Aero's (I like Aeros USAAF sheepskins, myself, but the arms on a lot of their Irvins look a bit too skinny, somehow), though both are great quality garments for much less than the ones in your picture. If you want modern conveniences like pockets you could go for an adapted design (Aviation Leathercraft, who hold the rights to the Irvin trade mark, produce an Irvin of sorts with handwarmer pockets, while I've also seen an Aero B3 which has had zipped handwarmer pockets added). Alternatively, something like an ANJ-4 would give you an accurate historical repro (if that matters to you) with the bonus of the big patch pockets. All depends what you want for yourself, really. Is the look of the originals what you're after, or something more of a reimagining?

    FWIW, I always thought the Aero Bootlegger would look outstanding with a shearling liner (something close to the jacket from Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow).

    ANJ-4 Repro by Eastman leather, GBP599.99



    Aero Bootlegger:



    Imagnie this in brown, with a fleece lining that extends out over the lapels, bit of tweaking of the design to extend the lapels, and you're coming close to:

    If in doubt - overdress.

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    As Edward rightly says lambskin is not the most durable material for a modern jacket. It will not stand the test of time like most wartime Irvins! There are plenty of alternatives available at a fraction of the price.
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    Expensive! I went looking for something more to my budget and I found a Columbia Aviator Jacket from Sportsmansguide. Its made with modern materials and faux shearling and the obvious inspiration is the B-6 jacket issued in place of the B-3 for World War II air ground crews:



    Its not a leather jacket but it is period correct. It seems like one to add to my collection.

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    Agreed. You don't have to break the bank for a good flight jacket. Burberry might be good for show on the runway but after my experience with lambskin, its not made for every day wear. Its shreds and tears and in no time you have a jacket you hate.

    If you go leather in a practical jacket, buy cowskin or goatskin and save your money for something else.

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    That first model looks like he's about to cry . I wonder if it's the jacket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neophyte
    That first model looks like he's about to cry . I wonder if it's the jacket.
    His partner was just too rough the night before.

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    Well I don't think I'll be trading in my ELC Irvin for one of these anytime soon.

    And 2,000 quid, now that really made me laugh
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