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  1. 03-09-2011 10:47 AM #21
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    This little record (2 sides of a 10" 78) made an inimaginable sucess at those days! And had everything to get this sucess. Francisco Alves was "the" singer here. The orchestra is arranged and conducted by Radames Gnatalli - one of the most proeminent classical conductors and composers at those days. And the songwriter, Ary Barroso, wrote some of the most famous songs of those days - specially ballads, more than numbers like the "Aquarela do Brasil".

    The samba get a similar story that jazz took. its origins came from the "choro", a kind of ragtime, with strong influences from waltzes. And went to a big band fashion in early 30s/40s. And in 50s/60s, to bossa nova - let's say, a kind of intelectualized samba.

    Curiously, here the spanish latin music didn't make great sucess until mid 50s. Some singers, like Gardel and Pedro vargas with tangos - but not the usual on radio. Guaranias and mambos were a lot exotic!


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    I've got an itch for some Carmen Miranda, Xavier Cugat, Desi Arnaz this morning and it made me remember all the great ballroom Latin Music of the '30's and 40's. So I'd like to start with my personal favorite... Aquarelo de Brasil is also significant since we're approaching Mardi Gras/Carnaval and it won the best song award down in Rio.
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    Carlos Gardel -- El Dia Que Me Quieras (1935)
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    Two records by one of the most popular singers in Brazil in late 30s, Mr Orlando Silva. Both records with the studio orchestra from Victor. Both songs give a good look into what was the usual "popular music" here in those days.




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    By strict definition Brasilians are not Latinos, ergo Brazilian music isn't Latin music.

    Splitting hairs, maybe...
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    Hey, Martin Santos - I know you're in S.P., but do you follow the samba competitions in Rio? Beija Flor won, Tijuca came in second, once again on the strength of the magic act of its comissao de frente.

    Off topic, I know...
    But now, I might be mistaken... a-hmm hmm hmm hmm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chas View Post
    By strict definition Brasilians are not Latinos, ergo Brazilian music isn't Latin music. Splitting hairs, maybe...
    Portuguese is one of the Romance languages. Wiki says:

    The Romance languages (sometimes referred to as Romanic languages, Latin languages, Neolatin languages or Neo-Latin languages) are a branch of the Indo-European language family, more precisely of the Italic languages subfamily, comprising all the languages that descend from Vulgar Latin, the language of ancient Rome.

    As a Latin based language we might be excused for thinking the music is Latin in a way also.
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  8. 03-10-2011 05:23 PM #28
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    Now you surprised me, Chas!

    As I live in Latin America, all music here would be... Latin music Well, it has a different "sound" than music from Mexico, Argentine, Paraguay and so on - in this sense, you're right. Anyway... I confess I never cared much about these definitons!

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    By strict definition Brasilians are not Latinos, ergo Brazilian music isn't Latin music.

    Splitting hairs, maybe...


    LeftyW, I don't follow any samba competitions... Of course it's a beautiful show, but it's very far from what "carnaval" really is, the "street party" that unhappilly doesn't appear in newspaper or in Tv. Did you have the chance to know?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lefty W. View Post
    Hey, Martin Santos - I know you're in S.P., but do you follow the samba competitions in Rio? Beija Flor won, Tijuca came in second, once again on the strength of the magic act of its comissao de frente.

    Off topic, I know...
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  9. 03-10-2011 06:43 PM #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chas View Post
    By strict definition Brasilians are not Latinos, ergo Brazilian music isn't Latin music.

    Splitting hairs, maybe...
    Splitting is correct. That's like saying that by strict definition Celts are not Scots are not Normans. bahahahahhahaha Not to get too off topic, but the term "latino" has been hijacked by Mexicans/Chicanos.
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    Carlos Gardel -- Noches De Atenas (1933)
    (Athens Nights)

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