Cask or Real Ale

[esteban68]

ButteMT61 did you get a bottle or two of the dog in Newcastle?
If you're ever over again and in North Derbyshire (Gods own County) try the Chesterfield Arms a former den of real thieves, cads and scoundrels but now a very nice decent local pub without the sometimes annoying younger drinkers and great ale to boot! also the Derby Tupp on Whittington moor, or if you want to slum it a bit The Royal Oak in the Shambles in Chesterfield town centre one of the oldest pubs in England and a former resting place of the Nighhts Templar.

[wildturkey8]

The problem in the states is that cask is labor intensive (lines need to be cleaned regularly,etc.). Spoilage is a huge problem. I think it would take off but we need some technical innovations to make it work here.

[dnjan]

...we need some technical innovations to make it work here.

Actually, I think it is more of an education issue. Educated customers to know what it is and to want it, and educated pub owners/managers to figure out how to do what the Brits have been doing for lifetimes.

[ButteMT61]

ButteMT61 did you get a bottle or two of the dog in Newcastle?
If you're ever over again and in North Derbyshire (Gods own County) try the Chesterfield Arms a former den of real thieves, cads and scoundrels but now a very nice decent local pub without the sometimes annoying younger drinkers and great ale to boot! also the Derby Tupp on Whittington moor, or if you want to slum it a bit The Royal Oak in the Shambles in Chesterfield town centre one of the oldest pubs in England and a former resting place of the Nighhts Templar.

Yes! We did. That was at the urging of my host. Fantastic! We spent an afternoon in the Posada. My son spent the night out with our hosts neighbor and I have no clue where they went, but he's probably is happier that way! Fantastic beers and people there. Can't wait to go back - which I think will be this late spring/summer!
Thanks for the info...

[A.C. Lyles]

Actually, I think it is more of an education issue. Educated customers to know what it is and to want it, and educated pub owners/managers to figure out how to do what the Brits have been doing for lifetimes.

Why am I thinking of soccer........oh, because it's another thing that just can't seem to catch on here.

[ButteMT61]

Actually, I think it is more of an education issue. Educated customers to know what it is and to want it, and educated pub owners/managers to figure out how to do what the Brits have been doing for lifetimes.

It was fun to see how seriously (not to the point that it sucked the good out of it) the pub's owners and customers took their beers. It's obviously more a way of life there and not just a place to go and drink as much as you can as fast as you can until you either get sick, start a fight, or both. I really enjoyed the visits and listening to the people beam with pride over their establishments and beers and history. Really a trip back in time for us, and it was lovely. I especially liked being there in the cold where you go inside and warm up with a drink or two. Also refreshing was the pets inside. Some had cats, some dogs, and they just were part of the backdrop.

[esteban68]

Actually, I think it is more of an education issue. Educated customers to know what it is and to want it, and educated pub owners/managers to figure out how to do what the Brits have been doing for lifetimes.

Agreed my parents ran pubs for years , to them and thousands of other' landlords' looking after 'the lines' is second nature if not done correctly it tastes bad.. if really neglected people will stop using your bar/pub.
All it takes is some decent training, there shouldn't really be that much spoilage if you have a dedicated 'cellar man'.

[esteban68]

Don't get me started on Soccer, I hate the 'game'(business) I wish they'd export it period!

[A.C. Lyles]

It's obviously more a way of life there and not just a place to go and drink as much as you can as fast as you can until you either get sick, start a fight, or both.

Wait, are you talking about Britain......

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/04/wo....10705193.html

[esteban68]

It was fun to see how seriously (not to the point that it sucked the good out of it) the pub's owners and customers took their beers. It's obviously more a way of life there and not just a place to go and drink as much as you can as fast as you can until you either get sick, start a fight, or both. I really enjoyed the visits and listening to the people beam with pride over their establishments and beers and history. Really a trip back in time for us, and it was lovely. I especially liked being there in the cold where you go inside and warm up with a drink or two. Also refreshing was the pets inside. Some had cats, some dogs, and they just were part of the backdrop.

Oh getting sick and fighting does happen, usually young lads to be fair and most often in town centre 'fun pubs/bars'...your son will have enjoyed his night out 'in the Toon' the girls up there wear one layer less all year round despite it being 2 or 3 degrees cooler on average...my mate lives in Ryton very close to Nexcastle he married a Geordie lass and when we all go up and he brings out all his local Geordie mates and brother in law he sits in the middle and translates (seriously) from broad Derbyshire to Geordie back and forth all night , funny thing is as we drink more we begin to understand better!