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    Quote Originally Posted by mason569 View Post
    1911 All that way it is my carry gun, the .45 is my main round, even in BALL form it will knock a man down with one hit...
    It may stop a man with one round, it may slow him down with one round, but under normal circumstances it certainly won't knock a man down. Physics being what it is, if the bullet had enough energy to literally "knock a man down", the recoil generated would also knock down the shooter. That said, I'd agree with you that there is no better sex-crazed zombie stopper in the world than Colt's Model 1911 self-loading pistol in .45 caliber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rathdown View Post
    It may stop a man with one round, it may slow him down with one round, but under normal circumstances it certainly won't knock a man down. Physics being what it is, if the bullet had enough energy to literally "knock a man down", the recoil generated would also knock down the shooter. That said, I'd agree with you that there is no better sex-crazed zombie stopper in the world than Colt's Model 1911 self-loading pistol in .45 caliber.

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    Well said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rathdown View Post
    It may stop a man with one round, it may slow him down with one round, but under normal circumstances it certainly won't knock a man down. Physics being what it is, if the bullet had enough energy to literally "knock a man down", the recoil generated would also knock down the shooter. That said, I'd agree with you that there is no better sex-crazed zombie stopper in the world than Colt's Model 1911 self-loading pistol in .45 caliber.

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    Go with a .45 ACP. I've been a police firearms instructor for 25 years, and I know of more than one occassion where a 9 mm did not do what it was intended to do. Just my .02
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    I'd go for a 9 Largo (9mm Bergmann-Bayard), loaded with THV (the fourth bullet in the image, here fitted to a .38).


    The 9 largo case, being cilyndrical, doesn't have the nose-dropping feeding problems associated with the 9 Para (conical frustum) in large magazines, so you can load a 25 mag with no problems.


    With a spare mag, you're packing 51 'lil friends'. Enough to win a little war...

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    In the end, the choice has to do with if you are going to carry it regularly.

    Some people find that a large & heavy gun becomes a burden for conceaaled carry.
    Smaller guns can then be a handful when trying to shoot.
    Some lightweight guns can be punishing with recoil.

    As said before: while 45 represents the better round for 1 shot stops, it is the gun that you have with you when needed that is the best.
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    I never rely on a single round stopping an attacker no matter what the caliber, that's why I always load more than one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rathdown View Post
    It may stop a man with one round, it may slow him down with one round, but under normal circumstances it certainly won't knock a man down. Physics being what it is, if the bullet had enough energy to literally "knock a man down", the recoil generated would also knock down the shooter. That said, I'd agree with you that there is no better sex-crazed zombie stopper in the world than Colt's Model 1911 self-loading pistol in .45 caliber.

    Don't leave home without it.
    Now the .45ACP is my preferred round for carry, at least in cooler weather when a larger gun is easier to conceal, but I must take exception with it being the best sex crazed zombie stopper.

    My 10mm auto packs a lot more more punch in the same 1911 platform but is not as easy to handle, and we can go outside the 1911 platform and go revolvers. The .357 mag, .44 mag, and the old .45 long Colt are much better stoppers than the .45ACP any day, but in a similar sized carry package do not handle nearly as nicely as the .45ACP. For most of us the .45ACP is the best balance of stopping power, terminal ballistics effectiveness vs recoil comfort. I can handle the other cartridges but under controlled conditions. In a rapid fire situation they tend to get out of hand as for as controllability fairly quickly. For defense I want something I can controll quickly in a follow up shot situation, and for me it boils down to the .38 Special, 9mm, or .45ACP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkingrph View Post
    Now the .45ACP is my preferred round for carry, at least in cooler weather when a larger gun is easier to conceal, but I must take exception with it being the best sex crazed zombie stopper.
    You are treading on extremely slippery ground, and I am afraid you are about to loose your footing.
    Quote Originally Posted by jkingrph View Post
    My 10mm auto packs a lot more more punch in the same 1911 platform but is not as easy to handle...
    Which is why it is why it is inferior when dealing with zombies, when cold precision and quick recovery between shots is absolutley required.
    Quote Originally Posted by jkingrph View Post
    ...and we can go outside the 1911 platform and go revolvers. The .357 mag, .44 mag, and the old .45 long Colt are much better stoppers than the .45ACP any day, but in a similar sized carry package do not handle nearly as nicely as the .45ACP.
    They are, however, limited to six shots, and are incredibly slow to reload compared to the venerable Colt Model 1911.
    Quote Originally Posted by jkingrph View Post
    For most of us the .45ACP is the best balance of stopping power, terminal ballistics effectiveness vs recoil comfort.
    You have just made my point. Thank you.
    Quote Originally Posted by jkingrph View Post
    I can handle the other cartridges but under controlled conditions. In a rapid fire situation they tend to get out of hand as for as controllability fairly quickly.
    When faced with a hoard of sex-crazed zombies one must dispatch them with the same sang froid exhibited by Mrs. Petticaris's luncheon guest when her afternoon was interrupted by the arrival of mounted Berber Riffs. Spilling one's tea may be excusable under the circumstances, but loosing control? Never!
    Quote Originally Posted by jkingrph View Post
    For defense I want something I can controll quickly in a follow up shot situation, and for me it boils down to the .38 Special, 9mm, or .45ACP!
    For your garden variety zombie, nuisance that he is, a well placed .38 or 9mm is adequate. I'll give you that. But when they are in rut! Well, it's the .45ACP or you are apt to join the shuffling hoard before you can say John Moses Browning!

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