Peacoat, Ayoob is a fellow I followed by reading everything I could find by him in the early 80's, at the start of my career. He is an expert on the 'point and shoot' technique in CQB.
In regards to officers firing their weapons, the first SWAT school I attended, there were around 35 in the class and when polled, only about six or seven had ever fired their weapons outside of training. Of those six or seven, five were on the same team. Two on that team had been in more than one gunfight.
I am surprised there were that many officers in your department who had fired their weapons outside of training. That actually seems to be a high percentage. I have worked with the police for much of my career and know very few who have fired their weapons on the street. The female officer I mentioned in a prior post was at the wrong place at the wrong time on several occasions. She worked in a very active zone.
The first time, she and another officer were responding to a robbery in progress at an upstairs apartment in their zone. The male officer entered the doorway first and started to go up the stairs with her still just outside the door as there wasn't enough room for two of them to enter together. The doorway was at a right angle to the stairs. He was armed with his service revolver and she with the riot gun. At that time our department issued #1 buckshot for the shotguns, and may still do so.
Just as the male officer put his foot on the first step, one of the robbers fired down at him with a sawed off shotgun. The female officer immediately pushed her way through the doorway right behind the wounded officer and fired up the stairs at the gunman. The #1 buck did its job. That part of the gunfight was over. But there were other robbers still in the apartment. I can't remember what happened after that to clear the apartment, but it was fairly exciting. I think some people were jumping out of windows. Another one or two of the bad guys may have been shot. The officer who had been shot survived, and after several surgeries on his right arm, including a skin graft, was able to return to work and complete his career without much more excitement. The other shootings the female officer was involved in were with her service revolver. All were ruled legal ("good") shootings.
The female officer later was made a detective and moved up in the police hierarchy. A few years after this incident, we dated for awhile. We never discussed her shootings, but she was very particular about carrying her service revolver with her everywhere she went, both on and off duty, and she was dedicated to range work. She had a pocketbook made with a holster inside for quick draw, and she would practice drawing from the pocketbook. The police range was on the other side of town, but I knew a place close by where we could go. We shot together several times. That is how I know she would practice drawing and firing from the pocketbook. That wasn't authorized at the police range. While I also trained at the police range, it was more fun to go shooting with a good looking female on our own.
Back then, there were very few female police officers, and pocketbooks, bags and holsters just weren't made for women. The pocketbook she had made had the holster right at the top of the bag, so when the bag was opened, the revolver was visible. She had it made that way for quick access as she knew from experience how quickly things happened and how fast she would need to draw her weapon. She would try and keep the weapon hidden when accessing items in her pocketbook, but that was sometimes hard to do. Once we were at the store to get some things she needed. The lady at check out saw the weapon when the pocketbook was opened, and got very pale very fast. My friend realized what had happened, pointed to her badge next to the weapon, smiled and said, "It's OK, I'm a police officer." That was one very relieved cashier.
I could tell police stories for the rest of the day (and night), but I need to move on with other things.
BamaBoots, I'm glad you are familiar with Massad. Looks as if others are as well. There is a lot of knowledge there. Roll Tide. PC.
Last edited by Peacoat; 08-09-2015 at 06:33 PM. Reason: Clarity
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