Sorry, I just had to vent. I'm better now...
Sorry, I just had to vent. I'm better now...
I definitely understand! I am 6'4" and weigh a lean 245 lbs. and it incredibly difficult to find clothing that properly fits. Today's XXL clothing is more designed for width then height. Now, I am riled up!
Yes there were, you just have to search the ends of the earth, and then pay through the nose for anything vintage.
Yup, I'm with you guys. Mostly have to get repros. Nothing hardly ever comes up that's vintage in my size.
Big guys unite. I think we have a lawsuit - let me call Larry H. Parker and will get back to you guys
For the record, my great uncle Frank, was 6' 3" in his stockings. He was born in 1918. My brother who is also rather tall inherited his wardrobe. Lucky boy.
I do sympathise with you chaps on the clothing front tho'.
It's even worse if you're 6'1", 173 lbs. and have longer arms than most people who are 6'4". :-/
I agree...but it's not just limited to vintage. I look around and see a LOT of big corn-fed boys that look just like me, but whenever I go to buy clothes, it's like shopping in the boy's department. And worse, it seems that lots of retailers and manufacturers seem to believe that all big guys wear are novelty t-shirts, hoodies and sweatpants. If (God forbid) we actually need to dress up for "a marryin' or a buryin'", then polyester heavy suit separates will do just fine. Despite all of the media coverage relative to the growing problem (no pun intended) of obesity in the U.S., clothing makers seem to be living in a cave.
"Who needs hair when you've got a sweet hat?"
6'1 and about 220. I feel your pain.
I tell it like it used to be.
If you lived in Scandinavia or northern Germany, you would find more large vintage jackets. Americans are a little like the Dutch. The bulk of our culture started out small and has grown much taller over the past 70 years. In Holland, the average dutch man was the shortest in Europe in the 1800's. Now look at the Dutch: they are the tallest per capita population of men on earth if you average them all together.
Diet certainly plays a factor, but it doesn't explain everything. Genes and an influx of taller northern Europeans played a roll, although most of those people did not immigrate after 1950. Rather, American women tended to breed with taller men selectively. What does this mean? They cheated on their shorter husbands with some regularity in order to cultivate taller genes in at least one of their children. This means that a smaller breeding pool of taller men proliferated more genes laterally within the culture. Milk, beef, and other rich foods created more height. Milk is designed to make a calf into a cow, which is much more growing than a little boy who grows into an adult man. Steroids in milk may have played a factor, as well, but most people of northern European lineage are actually shrinking now a little. Fathers are often a hair taller than their sons these days.
The great prevalence of synthetic estrogen in plastics products could certainly play a role in the slightly less robust height. Americans are currently under attack by pesticides, plastic toxins, GMO's, food additives and sweeteners, and a whole host of environmental poisons. The oil "spill" in the Gulf destroyed our food source and laced shrimp and fish with corexit, a very toxic substance. We are being poisoned systematically and deliberately. Obama has filled his cabinet with goons from Monsanto who are setting policy for trade, agriculture, and the food industries. Republicans are no better in this respect. Both sides of the bi-partisan pyramid converge at the top.
If you want to see the difference between Americans now and 70 years ago, go sit in movie theater seats from the 1930's. They are quite tiny. But not as small as suits of armor at the Metropolitan museum of art in NYC. Most soldiers from three hundred years ago have the stature of boys today, not men. While at the Met, I noticed one exception. A suit of armor from three hundred years ago that would have fit a 6"0 man and that looked like something from Robocop. Very modern looking. In fact, it looked very much like modern stainless steel and it had all steel working parts with no cloth or leather on the outside. It definitely stood out next to the tiny little rotting suits of armor from France, England, Spain, and Portugal. Most of them had interwoven fabrics that were in the process of becoming filth and dirt, reverting back into their organic constituent elements. Where was the all metal stainless steel armor from? Northern Germany. Germans, especially those of "Hessian" stock, are truly huge people who possess the largest skulls per capita on earth. Germans have also loved leather for centuries. I'm sure that in Germany, Hamburg in particular must have more than its share of large jackets in vintage shops when compared with shops in England or America. The only reason why German jackets from the 60's and 70's were not as popular as American jackets has to do with money. Germany was still rebuilding its decimated economy and culture back then when fewer people could afford nice jackets. Those who could, were quietly buying vintage jackets from the previous two or three generations, which belonged to a culture that was notorious for great quality and generous thickness and girth. The Nazis were highly problematic in countless ways, but their skill and nostalgically evocative designs with leather are indisputable. To the victors go the spoils. England and America were making very cool jackets back then. I'm actually surprised that there are not more German jacket makers today with world famous standing. Perhaps I am just not aware of them. At any rate, Germans from the 60's and 70's certainly had nice motorcycles to ride, and they probably bought a fair amount of special batches of leather jackets from the big leatherers in England, and probably also from America. Germany, Holland, and Scandinavia is where you would find interesting vintage jackets in your height and size with more regularity.
Last edited by Hammer Down; 02-04-2012 at 01:29 PM.
I don't know where you got your insights from about Germans being taller than Americans 70 years ago, but let me assure you, tall sizes are nearly impossible to find in German vintage clothing. 20 years ago, in pre-internet times, I stopped wearing vintage because at that time it was virtually impossible for me to find anything I could wear.