Reply With QuoteAnd by the way, I've seen some inexpensive "Geoffrey Beene" braces which have button-attachment straps AND clips installed. You disassemble at three places to remove what you aren't going to use, and you can change your mind later.
Okay, here's my problem. Black heavy-duty thread, on black trousers. I sewed the six buttons inside the waist band, and the first time around, I decided I didn't care about the thread being visible on the outside of the trousers.
Most of them held well and I liked wearing the braces. But I realized I had the four front buttons out-of-position. So I took them off and decided to try keeping the thread out of sight. A horizontal seam runs all along the half-way point of the inside waistband strip, so I fastened to the free section below the seam. A little tricky where a pocket was in the way...
But when the buttons are under tension, the interior waistband pulls up and out-- of course it does, considering there's nothing to anchor the lower portion of it. I found myself changing to a different colored shirt so it wouldn't be as noticeable.
These trousers are particularly light in weight, but when shopping around for better candidates I see the same sort of waistband construction, so the problem might occur just the same.
One or more of my ideas/expectations must be misguided...
And by the way, I've seen some inexpensive "Geoffrey Beene" braces which have button-attachment straps AND clips installed. You disassemble at three places to remove what you aren't going to use, and you can change your mind later.
if sewing on brace buttons from the inside you need to catch the waistband canvas / interlining to prevent the waist lining pulling up.
if your trousers have no canvas or interlining... time to invest in sturdier trousers !
... or sew them on the outside and stitch all the way through.
If on the outside, are the buttons supposed to be a color like the pants, rather than white?
And having worn 38 waist for many years (perhaps thanks to ever-more-liberal measuring standards by the manufacturers) should I get 40 in this instance? I know that's been suggested on FL, but is there a consensus?
Dedicated suspender buttons are slightly cone-shaped on the back and shouldn't need any stand-off distance. I've been putting the front buttons on the inside, stitched through the fabric interfacing in the waistband as mentioned above. If your waistband is popping up, you will probably have to use matching thread and stitch all the way through the waistband.
I put the rear buttons on the outside to avoid having them poke me in the back, and stitch them all the way through the waistband. If wearing a belt, they're covered up. I use "heavy-duty button thread", which I've had for ages. It is much sturdier than normal thread, and has held up well. I would ask for it in a fabric or craft store.
Re: button color, if they're visible they should match the pants, here's a source of colored buttons with the sloped back:
http://www.suspenderstore.com/suspender-buttons.html
BTW, I use these removable clip-on buttons a couple of times on a pair of trousers before deciding where to attach buttons permanently - it's worked well so far:
http://www.suspenderstore.com/noezm.html
PS It is nice if pants are somewhat loose when worn with suspenders, but that makes them a little loose for belt wear...
Hmmm, colored buttons, on the outside... interesting.
A dedicated suspenders-only pair of size 40 trousers... could be!
You shouldn't be worried about the thread of your braces-buttons being visible from the front of the trousers, or the buttons being visible (depending on if you sew them on inside, or outside the waistband).
That's what your waistcoat is for. To cover the buttons/thread/clips, and braces.
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Yep, back to the old question, Why do braces come in a variety of colors and patterns?
You know...I've never figured that out!Originally Posted by Espee
...Where did you get that hat, where did you get that tile? Isn't it a nobby one and just the proper style! I should like to have one just the same as that. Whereever I go they'd shout "hello, where did you get that hat?..."
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That's funny because usually you wear a jacket over the waistcoat too.
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