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    The Few uses the Aero name under special agreement with Aero of Scotland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davy Crockett View Post
    I believe Aero did aquire the use of the Aero Beacon name legally, and from talking to Will at Aero many companies ask if they can use the Aero name (one being Morgan cars), Will told me that if they ask nicely he usually has no objections, however if people just use it without consent to capitalise on the name that is a different matter, I think Will does not like getting into long protracted legal battles(like most of us!) and he is a very reasonable man!

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    Asian company ripping off a western product without licensing the rights? I have never heard of that happening before stop the presses

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    oh guess i should have read on. The Few has licensing. good. Now if the company was from China then I would be even less surprised if they did not license properly or at all. The chinese companies do that a lot. Not so much Japanese. Japan is much better because many of the corporations are secretly joint owned by western investors who for some reason prefer to remain anonymous. Taiwan has made an industry out of stealing products. companies have high rise buildings called beehives or something like that with students right out of college who just live there eat there and work 16 hour days. much of western software is stolen by these beehive things. I know two friends who had companies destroyed by this buisness practice of the Taiwanese. very cutthroat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerojoe View Post
    Absolutely. Aero can claim rights to ELC because both business are in the UK. What I think is that Aero registered a TM in the USA too, since they have a branch or a retailer in the States. The company fulll name is "Aero Leather Clothing Ltd";

    http://www.aeroleatherclothing.com/terms.php

    but in their military labels they put "Aero Leather Clo Co. Beacon NY".



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    Looks like the exact same wording "The Few" is using on their labels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff M View Post
    Looks like the exact same wording "The Few" is using on their labels.
    Yest it is the same Aero probably didn't register any TM in Japan

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    I have to admit I have not seen every contract from every maker of A2's, but I have never seen one with the bottom of the pocket stitching go from vertical to horizontal with a sharp corner like that jacket in the first post. They have usually been a small curve or a cropped corner at 45.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rocketeer View Post
    I have to admit I have not seen every contract from every maker of A2's, but I have never seen one with the bottom of the pocket stitching go from vertical to horizontal with a sharp corner like that jacket in the first post. They have usually been a small curve or a cropped corner at 45.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerojoe View Post
    Absolutely. Aero can claim rights to ELC because both business are in the UK. What I think is that Aero registered a TM in the USA too, since they have a branch or a retailer in the States. The company fulll name is "Aero Leather Clothing Ltd";

    http://www.aeroleatherclothing.com/terms.php

    but in their military labels they put "Aero Leather Clo Co. Beacon NY".



    Goodwear on the other hand has to rename their Aero replicas as "Acme" because;



    Therefore, it is probably that the current Aero company registered a TM in the USA. You can buy all TM and patents of a dead business. Chinese do this all over the world.
    Or if it's completely fallen into disuse, it's very easy just to take it and run with it. "Mosrite of California" guitars, for example, are made in Japan by a company with no connection to the original company, but they acquired the rights perfectly legally. Japanese law is somewhat more liberal on the use of marks that have not been used for a long time, if memory serves.

    Quote Originally Posted by Davy Crockett View Post
    I believe Aero did aquire the use of the Aero Beacon name legally, and from talking to Will at Aero many companies ask if they can use the Aero name (one being Morgan cars), Will told me that if they ask nicely he usually has no objections, however if people just use it without consent to capitalise on the name that is a different matter, I think Will does not like getting into long protracted legal battles(like most of us!) and he is a very reasonable man!

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    If it's registered as a TM, at least in the UK, that means it has been registered for use with certain products. If the item in question falls outside of their product grouping and is unlikely to cause buyer confusion, they have no say in it; if, on the other hand, the buyer might be confused into thinking it was Aero Scotland behind the product, then they have the right to prevent such use. This would be behind the reason the Few need a licence to use the name. Morgan should have no issue here, unless Aero's market are likely to be confused into thinking Aero had diversified into niche sports cars..... though I suppose if it applied to leather seats in said cars, I could see a reasonable argument for a link.
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    Seems to me if "The Few" is marketing and selling an "Aero Leather Clo. Company" A2 jacket their product could be confused with Aero Scotland's A2's by less well informed buyers. Which I'll venture to say is a vast majority of the population who don't visit forums like this one.
    It is truly a "global economy" these days.
    Just look at the number of fake "Brand Name" items sold on eBay....bogus "vintage" jackets, etc.

    I understand the problem with trademark rights in China...but it surprises me find this problem with Japan.
    Last edited by Jeff M; 03-19-2012 at 02:41 PM.

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