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    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    I'm a musician (reeds) and a collector (vintage instruments & recordings), so I may be a bit prejudiced, but I prefer jazz that makes people dance. I listen to bop and later jazz mostly for the saxophone playing.
    Hey, people dance to Bop...Dizzy danced like crazy to Bop....Had some Michael Jackson looking moves 35 years before MJ...

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    I wish more people did. There's nothing that beats playing for dancers.

    My basic premise is that jazz after WW2 stopped appealing to the heart and started aiming for the head. That's when I start losing interest, altho not completely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    I wish more people did. There's nothing that beats playing for dancers.

    My basic premise is that jazz after WW2 stopped appealing to the heart and started aiming for the head. That's when I start losing interest, altho not completely.
    I can dig what you're saying...The problem with Bop is that too many cats trying to learn how to do it use technique as an end....where as the real masters of Bop use technique as a tool to make an emotion provoking statement from the heart....but like 'classical' music...the masters are always in the minority...
    Heres a couple Bop classics for you played in the recent...I've played with both these guys, and they always play 'from the heart'...They are a couple of those "Jazz is Love" guys...I know you'll dig them...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNnpk50vfhU
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WByJP7IzADk
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    oh, man, where to start?
    i'm a 78 collecter, so you can possibly tell where this is going, but i love the 20s jazz, the original memphis ive, bix, red nichols, miff mole, louis armstrong obviously, the duke's cotton club stuff, to be fair i like everything ellington dod or 99 percent of it. I also love swing, especially bunny berigan, count basie etc, more swing jazz than the big bands if that makes sense, the small group recordings benny goodman made are the stuff of beauty.
    I like diz and bird and miles and clifford brown etc too, my favourite of the bebop players is probbably jerry mulligan.

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    I grew up listening to jazz as my father was a jazz drummer and always had it on (except the ocassional classical). Thanks to him, I have a voracious musical appetite. Music is my disease and jazz features prominently. I dig everything from the 20s to the 70s. Bird, Diz, Basie, Duke, Milt Jackson, Cal Tjader, Wes Montgomery, Modern Jazz Quartet, Dinah Washington, Louis Armstrong, Monk, Mingus, Miles, Art Tatum, Oscar Peterson, Billie Holiday, Bud Powell, Hank Mobley......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    My basic premise is that jazz after WW2 stopped appealing to the heart and started aiming for the head. That's when I start losing interest, altho not completely.
    i like both takes.
    earlier jazz is more sentimental. later jazz is more cerebral, but has an equally strong 'mood' or even (arguably) a more forceful 'tone' given the angsty, searching, introspective side that wasn't heard of in the 30s.

    i absolutely love that brushy, muted late 20s Duke Ellington sound, but i also love Eric Dolphy, Ornette Coleman and John Coltrane doing something spikier.
    haven't got into any 70s jazz yet though.

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    I'm a bassist in Kansas City and I agree with Duke Ellington. "There are only two kinds of music; good and bad". I prefer any music with a good melody and am partial to most of the old standards. Many jazz musicians after the mid '60's seemed to view great tunes as nothing more than vehicles for improvisation; as chord changes with little or no regard for melody. As much as I respect their talent and dedication it's hard for me to enjoy on an emotional level the way somebody like Chet Baker or Miles would reach me. That's not to say I don't enjoy today's music because I often do.

    I sometimes listen to hours and hours of Coltrane because his emotional intensity was really something. He couldn't get a record made today, unfortunately. To clarify, he was a top artist for Atlantic and THE top artist for Impulse for a bit. It's just that he isn't Justin Bieber.

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    My Uncle got me into Jazz when I was just a boy. I think I was maybe 10 years old when he started giving me jazz albums the first I remember was a Jack Teagarden Fats Waller album, after that I was hooked.
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