Vintage SCUBA Diving anyone?

[Matt Crunk]

There seems to be a small but growing interest within the SCUBA diving community in collecting and using vintage SCUBA gear from the 1950s and 60s. There is at least one online Diving forum now with a section dedicated to it.

Being naturally attracted to all things vintage, and having been a certified diver since my teens, I jumped on that bandwagon early and, thanks to eBay, soon had me a complete set of vintage SCUBA gear: oval, single-lens, single-skirt mask; US Divers/Aqualung double hose regulator; vintage steel tank, weightbelt, dive-knife and speargun. Still searching for a true vintage wetsuit that will fit me comfortably. Diving using such equipment is NOT for everyone. It's much harder (at first) and more risky than diving with modern gear. All vintage gear should be inspected, tested, and repaired by a certified professional before use. And still there are many dive parks and diveboat operators that will not allow vintage equipment dives under their watch. But if you want to stand out from the crowd, show up with some of this stuff on your next dive trip.

I'll try to take and post pictures of my gear soon. I'm starting to get a nice collection of it.

[Oldsarge]

Oh dear lord! Diving in general is dangerous enough. Going out and deliberately using equipment that by today's standard can only be described as 'primitive' just scares me spitless. On those rare occasions when I dive, I dive free. That guarantees I can't get so deep I can get into trouble and since I'm not competitive enough to risk SWB I think I'm relatively safe. Yes, I read the part where you are very experienced and the part where you recommended complete inspection by a trained professional. I'm sure you are a safe enough diver to live a long, healthy life. Good on yer, but I'd hate to see anyone less experienced even get excited about the idea of Vintage Diving.

[Mike K.]

I'm in partial agreement with Oldsarge. Diving in general is not dangerous for those who are properly trained and certified, but I would prefer to collect vintage dive gear (like the Golden Era Mk.V helmet below) rather than actually dive with it.

[TomS]

Oh dear lord! Diving in general is dangerous enough. Going out and deliberately using equipment that by today's standard can only be described as 'primitive' just scares me spitless. On those rare occasions when I dive, I dive free. That guarantees I can't get so deep I can get into trouble and since I'm not competitive enough to risk SWB I think I'm relatively safe. Yes, I read the part where you are very experienced and the part where you recommended complete inspection by a trained professional. I'm sure you are a safe enough diver to live a long, healthy life. Good on yer, but I'd hate to see anyone less experienced even get excited about the idea of Vintage Diving.

I'm with you. I've done a fair amount of diving, and would NOT go with vintage stuff. I collect vintage watches, and even the *good* ones stop working once in a while. I shudder at a regulator that suffered the same fate.

[Matt Crunk]

Vintage equipment diving can be very liberating and safe if the right precautions are taken. First: Get all your vintage equipment annualed (annual certified inspection) just like you would any modern gear. Second: Limit vintage equipment to fairly shallow depths(40 or 50 ft), and open water dives where you have a clear shot to the surface should anything go wrong. Practice diving with vintage gear in a pool first. It takes some getting used to. Follow the NAVY dive tables: Plan your dive and dive your plan.

Vintage diving is usually done without the aid of a Buoyancy Compensator (BC). Instead you wear only a weight belt to achieve neutral or slightly negative buoyancy. Then you simply swim in the direction you want to go (up, down or level) instead of having to constantly adjust your equipment for your depth. Also, the exhaust on a double-hose regulator expells from behind your head instead of from under your chin like a modern second-stage regulator, so you don't get a barrage of bubbles in your face every time you exhale. There's no octopus rigs, pony bottles, pressure gauges or dive computers to tangle or get in the way. The equipment is less cumbersome, so there's a much greater sense of freedom.

[rocketeer]

I had an old suit just like the guy on the magazine cover but with longer legs. I was chatting to a local fisherman and said I fancied doing some snorkelling around the Cornish coast, so he said he had some old skin diving gear back in his garage. The old guy got this old wet suit out and said I could have it as he hadn't worn it for years. Then he showed me an old dry suit with a Siebe Gorman helmet similar to that above that he wore for working on constructions off shore. I could just imagine him as a John Wayne character fighting off a giant squid.
The rubber suit was great and I remember talking to myself(in my head of course) in a Jacques Cousteau voice as I looked at all the plant and animal life amongst the rocks.
I was a lot younger then, eventually I got a bit too fat for the suit and it sat in the garage. One day though I thought I would try it on for a laugh but looked like a fat seal in it. Took it to a car boot sale and sold it on for about £10, the guy who bought it just wanted it to get in the water during colder weather to de-barnacle his boat. I was quite surprised the rubber had not deteriorated as the suit was now at least 30 years old.
Johnny T

[LoveMyHats2]

Wow, nice posts here about a very interesting topic. I have been a diver since my days in the U.S. Navy, and the items you call "vintage" are what I still would use on a dive. As many of the new equipment and improvements seem to be "fathered" by the need of the U.S. Navy Divers and S.E.A.L.s, there has always been some behind the doors debates is new better than old? Now in just my own personal opinion, most of the new equipment is digital, automatic controls that when working right, is just fine. But when if you are on a dive, and are down say, 350 feet, the last thing I want going on is for a battery operated digital wrist computer to "drop out" and leave me in the dark as to what I may need information wise, to continue my dive...so I prefer old school and the use of what is commonly called (by us that have used them) a "whiz wheel", it requires no batteries and is always dead-on accurate. I also will always prefer the US Divers old school tanks over any of the new high tech items out there. Simple design tends to have less that can malfunction, again just my personal opinion and history in diving. I have met young divers that do not even have a clue that the mixtures needed to do a deep dive can be mixed/charged into the older tanks, and have expressed shock and disbelief that it can be done with anything other than the newer more complex breathing systems.

The old fashion "hard hat" diving helm, for the most part had that "Jules Verne" look to it, and yes they are colorful when shined up, but they also have a good track record if being maintained and in use properly.

[Lexybeast]

This video may be of interest.

http://vimeo.com/28404579

[MikeKardec]

At daylight we leave the Calypso and go down. The water in this area is very wet and a perfect place for ... fish.

One of the few lines I (sort of) remember from 1970s SNL.

A few years ago I had the opportunity to go down (barely) in a helmet and dress ... the old fashioned diving helmet and weighted boots and all. Very claustrophobic and freaky. The guy who had the stuff let me walk around for half an hour in water about ten feet deep. After a while I learned not to focus on the inside of the helmet and it became a more interesting experience. You adjust a helmet valve for buoyancy, the air pump fills the suit to go up, let more air out of the suit and you go down or get 'heavier' ... that's important for work, turning a wrench or using a crowbar.

The whole rig weighs well over two hundred pounds but all you have to do is stand there until they lower you into the water. You step into the suit and they jerk the big neck hole up your body. You soap your hands and wrists and force your hands through the sleeves. Then this big collar bolts to the suit and the helmet, with an interrupted thread (I think, it was quite awhile ago) locks on. You are already in weighted boots and your legs are laced or wrapped so that air can't get down in them ... if you get upside down with air in your legs you can't get right side up and likely you'll drown because the suit leaks or picks up water somehow. I couldn't tell because you can feel the water through the suit. Most divers wear a LOT of long underwear to keep even tropical waters from leaching their body heat away but I didn't because I was only going down for a brief and shallow dive. There are some controls you can use you chin on, a spit cock to suck in seawater and spit the inside of your face plate clean (again, if I remember correctly). Outside there is the main valve. There's a chest weight too. You can't waltz, that's for sure ... except under water.

Wild and horrible stories. Divers killed, their whole body crushed into their helmet by the pressure, jump too high under water (you sort of moon walk anyway) and the increasing buoyancy in the suit as the pressure lessens sucks you to the surface, helpless, a struggling beach ball. Old pumps were hand cranked, very hard to do when the diver is way down. Pumps are water cooled and have to have the water jacket refilled often. Divers came up fast to save their mates who were doing the cranking. If they got bent they'd get back into the suit, go back down and "hang off" decompressing more slowly.

One old guy I talked to in the Broome, Western Australia area had never been obviously bent ... no pains or numbness. But many years later he'd had to have both shoulders and one knee replaced. I guess nitrogen bubbles had eaten away the joints until they were like tissue paper. hard to believe but it seems this is done by the FRICTION of the nitrogen bubbles. That's a LOT of bubbles!

Pearl divers walked with the tide and the boat drifted above them. You have to be careful not to have too much line and air hose out. If it gets hooked on a rock or something the weight of the boat can pull you off your feet (so you're helpless - you can't swim in a helmet and dress) and yank you back around the rock. Your only hope is to run back or jump to release yourself.

Hard hat diving killed or maimed a lot of men. Diving communities, Japanese pearl divers, Greek sponge divers, have a love/hate relationship with the suit. Free diving was safe-ish but you couldn't make a lot of money, suit diving killed so many ways but you could stay down to harvest a lot of oysters or sponge.

Ten feet was enough for me. A great experience I don't need to repeat. SCUBA work has little bearing on helmet and dress diving. Old SCUBA seems scary to me but I'm not certified nor am I likely to be.

There are a lot of phony helmets out there ... seems like a silly thing to counterfeit because even a phony takes a lot of work but that seems to be the case.

Sorry to write a novel but this is a cool old-time experience I've actually had.

[rocketeer]

Brilliant post. I can almost imagine an old movie with John Wayne, Bruce Cabot, stick Maureen O'Hara and Claudette Colbert in for a bit of love interest and some long lost Spanish treasure. All guarded by a Giant squid of course.
I REALLY never realised there were so many dangers involved(not counting the squid and clams, all giant naturally). There is a film with Robert Deniro about modern(ish) navy diving using these suits I think but it's title escapes me.>

At daylight we leave the Calypso and go down. The water in this area is very wet and a perfect place for ... fish.

One of the few lines I (sort of) remember from 1970s SNL.

A few years ago I had the opportunity to go down (barely) in a helmet and dress ... the old fashioned diving helmet and weighted boots and all. Very claustrophobic and freaky. The guy who had the stuff let me walk around for half an hour in water about ten feet deep. After a while I learned not to focus on the inside of the helmet and it became a more interesting experience. You adjust a helmet valve for buoyancy, the air pump fills the suit to go up, let more air out of the suit and you go down or get 'heavier' ... that's important for work, turning a wrench or using a crowbar.

The whole rig weighs well over two hundred pounds but all you have to do is stand there until they lower you into the water. You step into the suit and they jerk the big neck hole up your body. You soap your hands and wrists and force your hands through the sleeves. Then this big collar bolts to the suit and the helmet, with an interrupted thread (I think, it was quite awhile ago) locks on. You are already in weighted boots and your legs are laced or wrapped so that air can't get down in them ... if you get upside down with air in your legs you can't get right side up and likely you'll drown because the suit leaks or picks up water somehow. I couldn't tell because you can feel the water through the suit. Most divers wear a LOT of long underwear to keep even tropical waters from leaching their body heat away but I didn't because I was only going down for a brief and shallow dive. There are some controls you can use you chin on, a spit cock to suck in seawater and spit the inside of your face plate clean (again, if I remember correctly). Outside there is the main valve. There's a chest weight too. You can't waltz, that's for sure ... except under water.

Wild and horrible stories. Divers killed, their whole body crushed into their helmet by the pressure, jump too high under water (you sort of moon walk anyway) and the increasing buoyancy in the suit as the pressure lessens sucks you to the surface, helpless, a struggling beach ball. Old pumps were hand cranked, very hard to do when the diver is way down. Pumps are water cooled and have to have the water jacket refilled often. Divers came up fast to save their mates who were doing the cranking. If they got bent they'd get back into the suit, go back down and "hang off" decompressing more slowly.

One old guy I talked to in the Broome, Western Australia area had never been obviously bent ... no pains or numbness. But many years later he'd had to have both shoulders and one knee replaced. I guess nitrogen bubbles had eaten away the joints until they were like tissue paper. hard to believe but it seems this is done by the FRICTION of the nitrogen bubbles. That's a LOT of bubbles!

Pearl divers walked with the tide and the boat drifted above them. You have to be careful not to have too much line and air hose out. If it gets hooked on a rock or something the weight of the boat can pull you off your feet (so you're helpless - you can't swim in a helmet and dress) and yank you back around the rock. Your only hope is to run back or jump to release yourself.

Hard hat diving killed or maimed a lot of men. Diving communities, Japanese pearl divers, Greek sponge divers, have a love/hate relationship with the suit. Free diving was safe-ish but you couldn't make a lot of money, suit diving killed so many ways but you could stay down to harvest a lot of oysters or sponge.

Ten feet was enough for me. A great experience I don't need to repeat. SCUBA work has little bearing on helmet and dress diving. Old SCUBA seems scary to me but I'm not certified nor am I likely to be.

There are a lot of phony helmets out there ... seems like a silly thing to counterfeit because even a phony takes a lot of work but that seems to be the case.

Sorry to write a novel but this is a cool old-time experience I've actually had.