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    These things are amazing. They're almost like scale replicas of real clothing, given the average size today vs. what survives from then.
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    Examples larger than size 38 or so are so astonishingly rare, as these were young men's/youths suits. At least that's how they were generally marketed. It's not really reasonable to expect many larger ones to come onto the market. (I know of at least one very large one on eBay right now, being sold by LuckyKat I believe, that is certainly the largest I've ever seen - and one of the few I've seen above size 38.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron Kurtz View Post
    Examples larger than size 38 or so are so astonishingly rare, as these were young men's/youths suits. At least that's how they were generally marketed. It's not really reasonable to expect many larger ones to come onto the market. (I know of at least one very large one on eBay right now, being sold by LuckyKat I believe, that is certainly the largest I've ever seen - and one of the few I've seen above size 38.) bk
    But even for "adult" suits, the sizes tend to be smaller, right?

    I wear a 42 Long jacket with a 34 or 36 inch waist (more like 36 these days...) and a bare minimum of 34 inseam. I'm 6'2", 200lbs. I feel there's little to no chance of me finding any suits in my area that are both vintage, and will actually fit me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flat Foot Floey View Post
    the "77 year" old garment will have a superior construction compared to a modern made to measure suit. You would need to go full bespoke to get even near to this.
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    Extremes will always struggle - abnormally tall like you, and abnormally small like me. Anything "R" is too long for me. I am firmly against the notion that vintage suits tend to be on the smaller side of things. The vast majority I come across are in the range 38R-42R, which seems average. "Longs" more common than "Shorts". The only difference is I can find boys suits - you will struggle for vintage, not because of jacket size but because of your abnormally long legs. You will have more competition when these suits do come up, so prices will be higher. I know a number of "odd-sized" people who do just fine finding vintage to fit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gin&Tonics View Post
    But even for "adult" suits, the sizes tend to be smaller, right?

    I wear a 42 Long jacket with a 34 or 36 inch waist (more like 36 these days...) and a bare minimum of 34 inseam. I'm 6'2", 200lbs. I feel there's little to no chance of me finding any suits in my area that are both vintage, and will actually fit me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A.C. Lyles View Post
    Slow down, FFF.... Oxxford ain't gone nowhere ........
    Ok. I am not familiar with them and not a bespoke customer anyway but 460$ still seems much cheaper than bespoke or high end mtm (with good fabrics and outside of asia)

    PS: Checked the Oxxford site and their sportcoats alone costs 2000. So no need to slow down. I couldn't afford them anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flat Foot Floey View Post
    Ok. I am not familiar with them and not a bespoke customer anyway but 460$ still seems much cheaper than bespoke or high end mtm (with good fabrics and outside of asia)

    PS: Checked the Oxxford site and their sportcoats alone costs 2000. So no need to slow down. I couldn't afford them anyway.
    Just pump your brakes for a few seconds.......Oxxford make RTW, MTM and bespoke all to the same standards of construction and the fabric used is of the highest quality as they are a sister company of the venerable cloth merchant Holland & Sherry. And something that should interest you and your pocketbook: The Bay is littered with new and pre-owned Oxxford which can be had at a fraction of their MSRP; much of it priced right in your wheelhouse. IMO, the best deal for classically styled tailored garments out there.

    Now go ahead and race off as I'm sure that you'll find something disagreeable about this suggestion....
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    I had the pleasure of seeing this suit in person, beautiful piece for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron Kurtz View Post
    Examples larger than size 38 or so are so astonishingly rare, as these were young men's/youths suits. At least that's how they were generally marketed.
    They also were favored by men in entertainment and the media. Franchot Tone and Cab Calloway come to mind.
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    Smashing suit! I'm mixed most of the time about peak lapels on a SB, either they work really well or they don't. But these look great!
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