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Old 10-25-2006, 11:22 PM   #1
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Cuffless trousers - snagging problem

Cuffless trousers are supposed to have legs cut at the bottom sloping downwards from the front of the instep (the top part where the row of shoe lace eyelets are usually positioned) of the shoe to a point just above the heel of the shoe.

As long as a person keeps still while standing up straight, the cuffs look nicely positioned. But were he to bend his knees, the back of the cuffs tend to touch the ground. And if his foot is lifted up with the ankles bent in such a way that his toes point downwards, the cuff slips past the rear bottom of the heel of the shoe. Then when the wearer lands his foot toe first, the cuff gets trapped between the shoe and the ground.

This problem can be quite embarrassing. The wearer keeps feeling his pants have been cut too long. Must a gentleman always walk like a true soldier of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea? Does anyone have a solution?
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Old 10-25-2006, 11:51 PM   #2
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Cuffless trousers are supposed to have legs cut at the bottom sloping downwards from the front of the instep (the top part where the row of shoe lace eyelets are usually positioned) of the shoe to a point just above the heel of the shoe.

Uncuffed trousers can be cut either straight or with a fishtail; it's just a matter of personal preference.

I prefer cuffed trousers, unlike most of the world.
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Old 10-26-2006, 05:28 AM   #3
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Hi, Tomasso

Thank you for your comments. Could you kindly elaborate a little more on what you meant by cutting uncuffed trousers with a fishtail? What is the fishtail?
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Old 10-26-2006, 06:07 AM   #4
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the cuff slips past the rear bottom of the heel of the shoe. Then when the wearer lands his foot toe first, the cuff gets trapped between the shoe and the ground.

If this happens, then the trousers are too long.
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Old 10-26-2006, 11:40 AM   #5
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A fishtail is when the back of the trousers rise higher than the front in what looks like a fish's tail. This is done when one wears braces with their trousers.

Also, to solve the snagging problem, I usually hem my cuffs so they fall about 3/4 - 1" above the heel of my shoe.

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Old 10-26-2006, 11:46 AM   #6
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A fishtail is when the back of the trousers rise higher than the front in what looks like a fish's tail. This is done when one wears braces with their trousers.

Did you mean to say "hang lower"? Otherwise, it doesn't make sense.


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Old 10-26-2006, 11:50 AM   #7
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This is what I was referencing.
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Old 10-26-2006, 11:55 AM   #8
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Got it. Thanks! I was spacing out and thinking that you were referring to the bottoms of the trouser legs. Don't ask why



Here's another image of a fishtail waist:


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Old 10-26-2006, 11:57 AM   #9
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It happens. I plan on doing that this afternoon in my costume history class .

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Old 10-26-2006, 02:33 PM   #10
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In the US military anyway, trousers are to be cuffed or hemmed at an angle from front to back when standing erect so that there is a slight break on the front crease and the trouser goes to the welt of the shoe in back.

If your pants are hitting the actual heel of the shoe (which should be an inch or so high) they are being hemmed/cuffed too long. The bottom of the heel is way out of bounds. The welt is the seam where the leather body of the shoe is sewn to the sole.

At full toe point (not in any way a natural walking or running foot position) the hem of my pants just barely reaches the bottom of my heel in back. No way for it too snag.

You are probably, perhaps unwittingly, wearing your pants too long in back. Try having them tailored to the welt.
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Old 10-26-2006, 05:06 PM   #11
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Got it. Thanks! I was spacing out and thinking that you were referring to the bottoms of the trouser legs. Don't ask why



Here's another image of a fishtail waist:


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Thanks, Marc, for the enlightening image. And I can only say great minds think alike, ha, ha, ha.

But why should the fishy gimmick work when the cuff will still meet the heel with the wearer standing still? Shouldn't the original problem I described still occur when the wearer is in motion?
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Old 10-26-2006, 06:07 PM   #12
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Shouldn't the original problem I described still occur when the wearer is in motion?

Ideally, no because the braces will hold the trousers in the proper position.
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Old 10-27-2006, 03:02 AM   #13
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Ideally, no because the braces will hold the trousers in the proper position.
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What is the fishtail for then?
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Old 10-27-2006, 04:52 AM   #14
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Fishtail Hem = Military Hem

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In the US military, trousers are to be hemmed at an angle from front to back when standing erect so that there is a slight break on the front crease and the trouser goes to the welt of the shoe in back.
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Old 10-27-2006, 01:24 PM   #15
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Ideally, no because the braces will hold the trousers in the proper position.
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Wouldn't it be a strange military where uniforms are worn with braces?
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Old 10-28-2006, 12:05 AM   #16
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All this talk about cuffs reminds me of a time when I almost dropped a $3000 lamp at a photo studio when the tripod somehow got caught on a cuff! I blame my less than magnificent sewing skills for that one.
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