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Alexander & Oviatt

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Picked this up yesterday near Hollywood at a vintage store, it's a really beautiful hat made for Alexander & Oviatt which was a men's haberdasher in Los Angeles that opened in 1911 and closed in 1969. The store and its owner have quite an interesting history and the gorgeous building he had built still stands today in downtown Los Angeles.

https://www.kcet.org/departures-col...spoke-brilliance-and-pretension-behind-an-art

The hat is very light and smooth felt with a silk liner and sweat band, as well as the underside of the brim covered in black silk. The crown is very flexible, it doesn't seem to have any permanent crease. The silk sweatband says Paris Opera and Chapeau Oviatt, Made in Paris, and the crest on the liner says Alexander & Oviatt, Los Angeles.

From my googling I believe this was called a Tuxedo Hat because of the silk underside. I also found the name of the man who owned the hat, Dominic Billi, and googled him. He was born in 1911 and died in 2010 so I am assuming he probably owned it after he became an adult, so anywhere in the 1930's on up. It certainly doesn't seem like a 50's era or beyond hat, but what do I know? :) The silk underside is obviously fragile and fraying in some spots but really not that visible when you have it on.

Anyhow, thought I would share it. I love the lightness of it. It's a wee bit large on my head but I'm probably going to wear it anyway at some point. I'd love to know anything else about it.

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The sweatband is actually sewn down, except in the tiny spot where my husband is pulling it back to show the store tag. Here's the liner logo, thanks for reminding me.

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Thanks!

There should be small paper tag. My guess is that it might have been made by Mossant or Fléchet.

Here is a late 1930s A. Peschel (Czechoslovakia) Velour that belongs to Alan (alanfgag) with a similar store logo. You can also see what I mean by the paper label.

http://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/index.php?/topic/8-peschel-hutfabrik/page-2#entry996

I actually have the liner stamp dye for the hat.

http://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/index.php?/topic/8-peschel-hutfabrik/page-3#entry1264

I am not up on Alexander & Oviatt so maybe someone else will comment. I noticed that Alan's A.P. Velour only has Oviatt's. This could help with dating. I am fairly certain the A.P. Velour is late 1930s maybe early 1940s.
 
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Beautiful hat! It's great to see another one. Tomorrow I'll inspect the hat further to see if I can get at another label. Thanks for that info.



Thanks!

There should be small paper tag. My guess is that it might have been made by Mossant or Fléchet.

Here is a late 1930s A. Peschel (Czechoslovakia) Velour that belongs to Alan (alanfgag) with a similar store logo. You can also see what I mean by the paper label.

http://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/index.php?/topic/8-peschel-hutfabrik/page-2#entry996

I actually have the liner stamp dye for the hat.

http://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/index.php?/topic/8-peschel-hutfabrik/page-3#entry1264

I am not up on Alexander & Oviatt so maybe someone else will comment. I noticed that Alan's A.P. Velour only has Oviatt's. This could help with dating. I am fairly certain the A.P. Velour is late 1930s maybe early 1940s.
 

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I'm also thinking that after reading the article that I linked to, where it says Alexander died in 1921. The hat you linked to just says Oviatt's, so perhaps it was made after that, but if mine says Alexander and Oviatt, and the owner of the hat was born in 1911, he would have been just a kid if he had it before Alexander died. Did young boys wear hats like this back then?
 
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I'm also thinking that after reading the article that I linked to, where it says Alexander died in 1921. The hat you linked to just says Oviatt's, so perhaps it was made after that, but if mine says Alexander and Oviatt, and the owner of the hat was born in 1911, he would have been just a kid if he had it before Alexander died. Did young boys wear hats like this back then?
I doubt is was for a child. If it is that old it might have been handed down. I tend to think it's later than 1921 but just a guess.
 

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