There is a date stamped on the sweatband. I can only make out 1969 which correlates with the last number "69" of the paper label sequence. The other numbers (running in the other direction) appear to be sweatband related.I just checked the sweat on mine for a date stamp. Didn't find anything as clear as the ones you have, just some weird marks.
Can't tell if they were meant to be something or not.
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Some factories converted to war time production needs. I came across a Rockel & Co. Alsfeld receipt from June 19th 1944 so they were still shipping what appears to be Dress Hats. Also whole sellers and retailers continued to sell what they had inventory. I am pretty sure I have hats that were made or sold in 1943 but no date stamp proof. I tend not to look for date stamps because I don't want to damage the sweatbands.
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Cool information. It would be an interesting study to look at the manufacturing plants of hats in relation to bomb/battle damage in their cities. Thanks for this, it just crossed my mind a couple of times, so I thought it didn't hurt to ask.Some factories converted to war time production needs. I came across a Rockel & Co. Alsfeld receipt from June 19th 1944 so they were still shipping what appears to be Dress Hats. Also whole sellers and retailers continued to sell what they had inventory. I am pretty sure I have hats that were made or sold in 1943 but no date stamp proof. I tend not to look for date stamps because I don't want to damage the sweatbands.
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HatsRme, thank you. It is very much my pleasure to show them here, where they are appreciated and where I can learn more about them. When I first took an interest in hats this is the place I came to, to read and learn what to look for in hats. If I start talking to my friends or relatives about hats their eyes just glaze over and their mind wanders off (if they don't head for the hills right away that is
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HatsRme, thank you. It is very much my pleasure to show them here, where they are appreciated and where I can learn more about them. When I first took an interest in hats this is the place I came to, to read and learn what to look for in hats. If I start talking to my friends or relatives about hats their eyes just glaze over and their mind wanders off (if they don't head for the hills right away that is
+1 my feelings exactly, hear hear!
Very nice.
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Waiting with bated breath on responses about this interesting hat. Love the ribbon color, does it seem original?I found this hat today that was sold in Munster.
Or made there, don't know which. There don't seem to be any markings on the back of the sweat or elsewhere. It is unlined.
Back bow, 2 1/4 to 3/8" brim, ribbon a touch over 2", crown around 5 1/2" open
Seems a reasonably nice velour. This is probably the truest shot of the ribbon color.
There are many more photos of it on my Flicker page if you want to toddle over there by clicking on one of the posted photos.
Anyone have ideas about the maker or the age?
Thanks,
Michael
All of you, thank you for the kind words. As to the hats I must say I kind of like it this way. It's like with music where you have artists you consider your own discovery. If everybody starts liking them it's just not your private enjoyment anymore.
That is a striking hat, beautiful. These black velour hat always seem blacker than black. I think Steve and Manfred are the best chance for more information on it. I did find a similar one on a Dutch site for vintage hats, just to compare it with. That one is branded Parker, but that doesn't tell us much about where it was made and who made it.I found this hat today that was sold in Munster.
Or made there, don't know which. There don't seem to be any markings on the back of the sweat or elsewhere. It is unlined.
Back bow, 2 1/4 to 3/8" brim, ribbon a touch over 2", crown around 5 1/2" open
Seems a reasonably nice velour. This is probably the truest shot of the ribbon color.
There are many more photos of it on my Flicker page if you want to toddle over there by clicking on one of the posted photos.
Anyone have ideas about the maker or the age?
Thanks,
Michael
Super! It looks like it could be from around 1949. Really great color combo + form.
Great find! I am thinking it probably had a liner. My guess would be mid to later 1960s. I am not sure who made it.I found this hat today that was sold in Munster.
Or made there, don't know which. There don't seem to be any markings on the back of the sweat or elsewhere. It is unlined.
Back bow, 2 1/4 to 3/8" brim, ribbon a touch over 2", crown around 5 1/2" open
Seems a reasonably nice velour. This is probably the truest shot of the ribbon color.
There are many more photos of it on my Flicker page if you want to toddle over there by clicking on one of the posted photos.
Anyone have ideas about the maker or the age?
Thanks,
Michael
My guess would be 1990s maybe a bit earlier or later. Really nice color combination. This hat was Machine Formed so not going to have the pliability of old P. & C. Habig Wien which came Open Crown. Regardless Mayser made high quality hats up to this time period. The German hat companies that survived went totally to Machine Formed hats by the 1960s.
