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Look for the Union Label

Discussion in 'Hats' started by buler, Oct 7, 2011.

  1. buler

    buler My Mail is Forwarded Here

    I looked for a good thread on the union stamps and couldn't really find one. Since this subject came up in the post your hats thread today, I thought I'd start one where we can consolidate what we know. I'll start with this 1917 ad that states the Young Hat Co was the first mfg to use this union stamp for straw hats. The ad was in a fall edition of the American Hatter from 1917.

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  2. buler

    buler My Mail is Forwarded Here

    Here is the stamp in action in an old derby.

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  3. buler

    buler My Mail is Forwarded Here

    Here is the second stamp in action.

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    The United Hatters Cap and Millinery Workers International Union (UHCMW) was formed in 1934 by the amalgamation of United Hatters of North America (UHNA) and the Cloth Hat, Cap and Millinery Workers International Union (CHCMW)."

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  4. buler

    buler My Mail is Forwarded Here

    Another timeline quote,

    "The United Hatters Cap and Millinery Workers International Union (UHCMW) was formed in 1934 by the amalgamation of United Hatters of North America (UHNA) and the Cloth Hat, Cap and Millinery Workers International Union (CHCMW). The United Hatters of North America (UHNA) was established in New York in 1896 as the resultof the merger of two Kinights of Labor-affiliated unions in the men's hat industry, the the Hat Makers and the Hat Finishers. The Cloth Hat, Cap and Millinery Workers International Union (CHCMW) was established in New York in 1901, as the United Cloth Hat and Cap Makers of North America (superceding the the Cloth Hat and Cap Operators Union), and took its final name (adding Millinery Workers) in 1918. In 1983 the UHCMW joined the Amalgamated Clothing and Textile Workers Union, which in turn merged in 1995 with the Internional Ladies Garment Workers Union to form UNITE (Union of Needletrades, Industrial and Textile Employees)."

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  5. 1890s or early 1900s high derby

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    The hat was sold by Romeiser's of Southern Illinois.


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    As you can see it is the old hatters union label, not the post 1934 version.
     
  6. scotrace

    scotrace Head Bartender Staff Member

    Advanced search. Search titles only, keyword "union," got me three pages of hits, about 20% in Hats, and several with this same thread title.
     
  7. Interesting that the letter references woven hats. I assume the bodies for these hats did not originate in union shops or in the United States. Do you think that Young Hat Company was the first granted permission to display the union label on any hat, or does this refer to straw hats made from imported bodies?

    Here is the pre-1934 label on an optimo blocked Panama that I own.

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  8. buler

    buler My Mail is Forwarded Here

    I did just that and read thru several. They seemed to start on topic and then go off in other directions (not unusual for the lounge).

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  9. Khuebner250

    Khuebner250 New in Town

    I didn't even know there were hatters unions. Not that it matters, I can't seem to find any hats locally anyway.
     
  10. I have several Crofut & Knapp hats from before 1909 that have the United Hatters of North America label, so I'm not sure what the Young hats are specifically referring to, though I haven't seen that particular logo before.

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  11. I have a Chelson of New York fedora with that exact union label. The size label (which is a 7 1/2!) is the old style black with gold lettering. I bought it on ebay. It does have an unreeded sweat. I'm sure it's quite old though in perfect condition except the sweat is coming loose.
     
  12. "A facsimile of the label is printed hereon, and is the same as found in felt hats, soft and stiff, made in Union Factories."

    It seems quite clear that the letter is referring to (for the sake of generalizing) straw bodied hats, and that the label was already in use for felt hats at the time of the letter.

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  13. Baron is correct. It is pretty clear that the letter is basically stating that the company in question was going to henceforward put the label on Straws just like was already being done on felts.
     
  14. Joshbru3

    Joshbru3 I'll Lock Up

    Late 1890's/Early 1900's Fisher Brothers Boater union label

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    Notice on the bottom of the tag is says, "Straw Panama."

    I wonder why there was a stamp distinction between a straw hat and a felt hat at this time period?
     
  15. Joshbru3

    Joshbru3 I'll Lock Up

    Union labels

    Late 1890s Early 1900s Champion Hat Derby

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    Early 1900's (Von Gal) Caravan Derby

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    1920's Lion Brand Fedora

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    1920's "The Magic Hat" Derby

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    1920s-1930s Heather Felt Medium Longhair

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    1930's Adam Fedora (Post-1934)

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    1930s ADAM LongRoyal (Post-1934)

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    1940s Warburton Schoble

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    1950s Mallory Twenty 20

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    1960s LEE water bloc

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    I have other examples. These are just a few.
     
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  17. Dinerman

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  18. Dinerman

    Dinerman Super Moderator Bartender

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  19. Joshbru3

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    Great posts, Dinerman!!

    I don't suppose you still have that Tiger Special, do you?
     
  20. Aureliano

    Aureliano I'll Lock Up

    Selco of Brooklyn.

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