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Velour as a hat fabric - how is it? (Stetson Sovereign)

Discussion in 'Hats' started by MattJH, Dec 15, 2006.

  1. MattJH

    MattJH One Too Many

    I've seen vintage fedoras state that they're made of "velour" or "velour fur-felt." What does the "velour" tag mean for hat wearers? How does it hold up to time? Can it be crushed/folded? How does it stand up to rain? For those who own a velour hat, how do you feel about it?

    I'm very curious because I'm on the edge of procuring my first truly vintage hat -- a gray 50's(?) Stetson Sovereign. The fantastic story of how this came to be will come later. Braided band instead of a grossgrain. Looks extremely sleek. What information could you provide?

  2. moustache

    moustache Practically Family

    Spledid question!

    This is a good question because i also have my eyes on a dark brown velour fedora.It is a wee bit more than i want to spend but one of my local vintage shoppes has it and it fits nicely.
    The plushness of the velour is delightful but i can't imagine what would happen in that sudden downpour.

    I will have to think about this one.

  3. feltfan

    feltfan Call Me a Cab

    There's felt an there's felt. There's velour and there's velour.
    If you search the archives here you will find a lot of velour hats.
    If it were a wide brim 30s Borsalino velour hat in my size like someone
    recently posted, I'd kill for it. The hat
    you show is not my style and I have no idea what the velour
    is like. I have a friend who wears a Dunlap a bit like that
    and it suits him fine.

    I do have a Knox Twenty velour hat. Outstanding hat.
    It appears to be a finish on a standard fine quality felt,
    if that helps. It's not like the knap on your car upholstery...
  4. The Wingnut

    The Wingnut One Too Many

    Velour is pretty durable, just keep it away from moths. It shows tracking much worse than regular felt.
  5. Mr Maltby

    Mr Maltby One of the Regulars


    Anxious to see what its like, I see!

    Its not flimsy. If a company like Kangol made a velour hat, itd be flimsy, like all their other hats, like wearing womens pants on your head.. I dont know how it holds up. its texture is solid, it holds up nicely. How? I do not know. Wish I could give you more advance info, but it kind of goes beyond my knowledge.
  6. Mr Maltby

    Mr Maltby One of the Regulars

    I also just remembed. I believe Akim Tamiroff wears one in the original oceans 11, which is from 1960. yours looks exactly like his, the only difference being that his is black. You could check that out if you want a visual on it.
  7. J.B.

    J.B. Practically Family


  8. The velour hats from the 30s i've held (one Borsalino i also own) are relatively thick felt and relatively stiff compared to their standard felt counterparts. The one i own holds its shape well


    This thread:


    Here's one from Tony in Tarzana:


    Note, that both of these are substantially older hats than the one this thread started with. The felt may be very different.

  9. he he. The one i posted was sold to me as a 7 1/4-7 3/8 (apparently it was "a bit loose on a 7 1/4 head"). I bought it to sell for major profit based on this erroneous info. Someone doesn't know their head size! It was a solid 7. Hey, i didn't get my profit, but i got the great hat for a measly sum (the listing didn't mention borsalino at all, but i recognised the liner).

  10. Mr Maltby

    Mr Maltby One of the Regulars

    just to clear something up. im not saying all kangols would feel like womens pants. I was just saying if they made velour hats ...you know? ...like the... track suits...aw, nevermind:p
  11. Bargepole

    Bargepole New in Town

    I have five Herbert Johnson velours and one Fischer. The tan/taupe/pale brown/whatever HJ hat is my "beater". I reckon it's been the equivalent of twice round the world, in three civil wars, four deserts, two - no, hang on, three - riots, it's been in a Sudanese jail and a Frankfurt cathouse (now that was a story I enjoyed writing:) ), immersed in the Indian Ocean, the Tiber and the Thames, run over by a motorcyle, monsooned-on twice, and whirled off my head in a blizzard in the Tatra mountains.

    It looks great. A few moth-tracks, true (on the underside, thankfully) but... it looks great. More than can be said for me. Maybe it's The Hat of Dorian Bargepole... but it's got cojones and endurance.
  12. Tomasso

    Tomasso Incurably Addicted

    It must have been written in first person.;)

    DOUGLAS My Mail is Forwarded Here

    This is a type of Velour.It is a Borsalino. It is really fine and very comfortable. I haven't worn it in the rain yet.
    This has become one of my favorite wearing hats.
  14. besdor

    besdor Vendor/Sponsor

    If you ever come across a velour hat from the 1940's and earlier , grab it up. They dont make them like that anymore . The Borsalino and Stetson hats from that era in velour were fantastic hats that I believe used mercury in the process of felting to give the hats their rich nap and fell. Today , the only decent velour is made by Tonak . They use the trade name called "Selentino" . We have them on our site at www.bencrafthats.com .

  15. Dinerman

    Dinerman Super Moderator Bartender

    here's mine
  16. The vlour hats are very nice. You see them more in europe, in fact the only ones I have from relatives that are men's hats are velour and from europe.

    Guess it's a German thing. Very good for cold weather. Moth track yes... bold and very visable.

    I'm sure they sponge up water just as good as the standard finnished felts.

    Though durability I haven't seen to judge velour.
  17. I have a velour hat, nice and confortable, [​IMG]
    Here is on my sweet Yohali, in winter is wonderful ¡¡¡¡¡
  18. mayserwegener

    mayserwegener I'll Lock Up

    Here are a couple of Austrian Velours. Very simple finishes. :)



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