Discussion in 'Outerwear' started by Lost Ronin, Sep 6, 2017.
Its so surreal reading this. Thanks for sharing!
And with this post, HD wins the entire internet for the rest of the year!
I'm happy with it. Of course he was quite different as a small town boy growing up in Fairmount, Indiana. Although he was indeed quiet and moody even then, his burr haircut and thick glasses at FHS was a far cry from the pompadoured movie star idol that returned home on visits. However he had changed and 'become' what was actually seen on the screen. I think he did portray, although often over dramatically, many of the sensitivities plaguing many teenagers and young adults of that time period.
I'ts not surreal, it's remarkable. Surreal would be if a hippopotamus was making toast on a surfboard in HD's anecdote. Sorry - pedantry over.
Haha I stand corrected!
HD, I know you are from Fairmount, and we have discussed my making a motorcycle trip up there to visit his grave, but I never thought to ask you if there was a James Dean connection - probably because of the age difference between you and Jimmy. Now we all know, and it is cool.
Peacoat...There is also a James Dean Gallery and Fairmount Museum displaying quite a bit of his memorabilia and also even a '65 graduation pic of yours truly . Before you head this way contact me and I'll take you on the Grand tour of his homestead and places of interest.
Thanks will do.
Brsando is the interesting comparison. While Brando may have lost his looks, he certainly retained his credibility, not lessdt with The Godfather. For some actors, I think losing their youthful, pretty boy looks can be the making of them as it lets them get the better roles (Brad Pitt being a good example of this - look at the turnaround in the quality of his output from circa Se7en...). Whether Dean would have been the Mature Actor or the Faded Former Pretty Boy is a matter of conjecture, of course, though certsinly the subtlety of his performance in somethingl ike Rebel would suggest he had quality in him.
That must have been fascinating. I've grown up in a small town and been no both sides of seeing and being the person who got out for the big city coming back, all glammed up, but never experienced anything quite so big. It must be a fascinating insight to the media build-up and the Hollwood machine to have that comparison from direct experience.
That's on the money, Edward. Of course talent won't help you build an enduring career any more than looks. You also need resilience and a good agent. I also wonder about the role substance abuse has played in the lives of so many other "icons" of Dean's era - Natalie Wood, Dennis Hopper, Elvis, Marilyn...
Managerial abuse seems to have been a big part of it with Elvis. The story long-believed was that his prescription-drug dependency (and the rest) kept him from touring internationally, but there are those who were there at the time who now claim it was actually Tom Parker's paranoia that old criminal charges would catch up with him and block him from re-emntering the US that led him to dump Elvis in the movies for so long, and limit his live work. It is interesting to speculate what Elvis might have done had he been working as a musician during the era of Hendrix and the Doors..... Heck, what if he'd worked around Dylan? Dylan has always been a fan of Elvis, and one of Elvis' best recordings, imo, remains In the Ghetto, his only really political song. Can you imagine what might have turned up had Elvis been out of the movies and been insprirecby Dyland to push harder for more numbers like that, in the era of the CRA?
Marilyn fscinates me becuse I'm baffled by her. Undoubtedly talented and funny (though oddly asexual to me, but then I've never been attracted to the kind of baby-voiced, vulnerable girls they constantly had her play), but so very, very far from the kind of person who shoul have the quasi-feminist icon she seems to have for some. A very trgic case; even if the Kennedys hadn't had her executed, I doubt she'd have been long for this world.
My mother was born in 1942, so she too was a teenager in the mid to late 1950's. Hearing her talk about it all always fascinated me as a boy. I've always felt I was born in the wrong time. I wish she were still alive so I could ask her so much more. Amongst other things.
This movie comes close;
"American Graffitti." ('73)
Funny, nostalgic, and bittersweet look of
a generation which I grew up in.
I became aware of James Dean after September of '55.
Before that time, we had no one.
"Rock & Roll" at the start was not
allowed on every radio station.
High school had strict dress codes.
We had no identity until Dean came
Sadly he was gone too soon.
But the movie "Rebel..." kept it going.
My mother's teen years had Glenn Miller
& Tommy Dorsey (Boogie-Woogie).
And the dress code and things were a
bit stricter than mine.
And my grandma had Valentino,
flapper dressrs and Jazz music
I never got the chance to ask her how
it was for her. I can only imagine!
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