The Return of the Man's Man

Feraud · Jun 7, 2010

Foofoogal said:
I know most men don't like reading books but if you are one that does it is a great read.

Huh?

Tomasso · Jun 7, 2010

LocktownDog · Jun 7, 2010

Foofoogal said:
I know most men don't like reading books but if you are one that does it is a great read.

I'll take that as a sarcastic light-hearted quip. [huh]

Slim Portly · Jun 7, 2010

Foofoogal said:
I know most men don't like reading books but if you are one that does it is a great read.

I can... barely... make it through... this thread... so many... *gasp!*..... words...

Fletch · Jun 7, 2010

Foofoogal said:
Explains how at basically every age of how or what a woman needs.

I not only came to understand myself like an onion taking off layers but with high divorce rates everyone truly could glean from this book. Startling.
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Definitely would take the pressure off of people to go ahead and be the kind of man or woman they want to be with explanation of why they want to be it.
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Why it is you want to be a man man and/or find the gal looking for one.

I don't but I think men who do often want to have the odds in their favor, and don't want to take the chance of being an individual instead of playing a role.

Many people, and I think a majority of men, believe coupling up is first and always a ritual, where social or evolutionary principles apply. There, it's more important to follow a script and play a role. Being yourself too early, or too often, can throw you out of the ancient ritual and ruin what is called your Game.

There are other reasons, more or less mysogynistic. Like believing that a woman will never come right out and tell you her needs or desires because they're incapable of directness, so it's better to listen to men who are experienced with women than to women themselves - especially not as individuals.

There's also the tradition that man's men get more respect from men as well as women, and are less likely to try to interfere in your relationship just to be predatory or show they can. One telling of the legend.

Paisley · Jun 7, 2010

Foofoogal said:
I know most men don't like reading books but if you are one that does it is a great read.

Maybe you meant to say "relationship books."

Pyroxene · Jun 7, 2010

Foofoogal said:
I am reading a book called Motherless Daughters by Hope Edelman.

Every man should read this book as well as every woman.

Added it to my Wishlist.

vintage68 · Jun 7, 2010

Atomic said:
:arated:

With 5" barrels!

+1, or is that +2

Foofoogal · Jun 7, 2010

:eusa_clap :eusa_clap lol

Yes Paisley. Relationship books.

It is not one though. Sorry guys. Multi-tasking.
I did say most guys. Not all guys.

HTML:

I can... barely... make it through... this thread... so many... *gasp!*..... words...

hilarious slim. lol

no kidding. it will make your life easier in dealing with females if you are male or female. truly.
i never ever recommend any phycho babble anything.

vintage68 · Jun 8, 2010

I prefer my women ignorant and docile

kiltie · Jun 10, 2010

Two Things...

It's hard for a man to stand by and watch other men work...

A man, when describing what he believes to be "manly qualities", shouldn't spend the rest of the thread, conversation, day, etc... trying to justify his position. That is weak and borderline crawfishing. If you believe something, say it. Period. Don't say it then add: "Well, of course, uh...those are admirable qualities in a woman, too...uh...they're flowers...but uh...like resillient desert flowers...uh...I didn't mean to assert myself...you know... uh, too strongly...don't want to, you know, offend...uh...anyone." Weak. Say what you think, what you believe.
Any woman* worth carrying on a conversation with will hear what you have to say and make her own decisions. And that's who you marry...awwwwww. It's like apologizing about your religion, fer crimony.

*any person

Lincsong · Jun 10, 2010

Basically, I usually let people know, "if you don't want an honest answer, don't ask me a question".

James71 · Jun 10, 2010

Foofoogal said:
I know most men don't like reading books but if you are one that does it is a great read.

Unless you are talking about the offerings under the banner of "twilight", I think perhaps you are hanging around with the wrong kind of men....."

[huh]

Chainsaw · Jun 10, 2010

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I know most men don't like reading books but if you are one that does it is a great read.[/QUOTE]

No of course, other than a repair manual, I ensure I stay ignorant of all reading. As by our religion, and such, a working class person endevoring to read, could destroy everything we hold to be sacred in our culture.

Now why is it that we no longer wear hat's as a society?

swinggal · Jun 10, 2010

James71 said:
Unless you are talking about the offerings under the banner of "twilight", I think perhaps you are hanging around with the wrong kind of men....."

[huh]

Hehe...indeed! Almost all of my male friends are avid readers. Some are into history and art or fiction, others read science mags, bios or sci fi but they all love reading.

Diamondback · Jun 10, 2010

swinggal said:
Hehe...indeed! Almost all of my male friends are avid readers. Some are into history and art or fiction, others read science mags, bios or sci fi but they all love reading.

My experience has been, over the years, that books are usually better friends than most people... ditto with guns.

Apologies for the rant, my midlife crisis is happening ten years early and I'm not having much luck wrapping my mind around the concept of "being middle-aged now".

jamespowers · Jun 10, 2010

Diamondback said:
My experience has been, over the years, that books are usually better friends than most people... ditto with guns.

Apologies for the rant, my midlife crisis is happening ten years early and I'm not having much luck wrapping my mind around the concept of "being middle-aged now".

Read a few car mags and you'll feel better.

jamespowers · Jun 10, 2010

kiltie said:
A man, when describing what he believes to be "manly qualities", shouldn't spend the rest of the thread, conversation, day, etc... trying to justify his position. That is weak and borderline crawfishing. If you believe something, say it. Period. Don't say it then add: "Well, of course, uh...those are admirable qualities in a woman, too...uh...they're flowers...but uh...like resillient desert flowers...uh...I didn't mean to assert myself...you know... uh, too strongly...don't want to, you know, offend...uh...anyone." Weak. Say what you think, what you believe.
Any woman* worth carrying on a conversation with will hear what you have to say and make her own decisions. And that's who you marry...awwwwww. It's like apologizing about your religion, fer crimony.

*any person

:eusa_clap :eusa_clap :eusa_clap :eusa_clap :eusa_clap :eusa_clap

Miss Neecerie · Jun 10, 2010

kiltie said:
It's hard for a man to stand by and watch other men work...

A man, when describing what he believes to be "manly qualities", shouldn't spend the rest of the thread, conversation, day, etc... trying to justify his position. That is weak and borderline crawfishing. If you believe something, say it. Period. Don't say it then add: "Well, of course, uh...those are admirable qualities in a woman, too...uh...they're flowers...but uh...like resillient desert flowers...uh...I didn't mean to assert myself...you know... uh, too strongly...don't want to, you know, offend...uh...anyone." Weak. Say what you think, what you believe.
Any woman* worth carrying on a conversation with will hear what you have to say and make her own decisions. And that's who you marry...awwwwww. It's like apologizing about your religion, fer crimony.

*any person

In other words, what makes a man's man, is the refusal to consider logic, take directions or consider anyone else's opinions on matters of self?

lol

In other words...list some -unique- to Man's men qualities...otherwise you are not describing the group as being unique from any other group.

Jennifer Lynn · Jun 10, 2010

Miss Neecerie said:
In other words, what makes a man's man, is the refusal to consider logic, take directions or consider anyone else's opinions on matters of self?

lol

That makes sense for some, but for other men they are on a plane all their own.

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