Ebay Hats: Victories, Defeats, Gripes & Items of Interest

Joshbru3 · Mar 15, 2012

alanfgag said:
Funny... that was on my list too. I'm glad you were the winner and that our rhythm is so good we're not bidding up each other's booty...(that would be the pirate treasure )

So that's why the prices have been low on the auctions I've won......

Now I probably just jinxed it. :eusa_doh:

TipTop · Mar 15, 2012

Joshbru3 said:
lol

Giggle, and I caught the Capped O too...and. now appreciate the Crown Heights later in life.

alanfgag · Mar 15, 2012

TipTop said:
Giggle, and I caught the Capped O too...

How 'bout Crown Heights?

TipTop · Mar 15, 2012

What $11 will get you...about $2/X, even after instructing the seller on added info needed for a successful sale. I figure the hat was free after I paid for the carrier. Full exposition over in Post New Hats Here.

Joshbru3 · Mar 15, 2012

alanfgag said:
How 'bout Crown Heights?

Speaking of Crown Heights, I was reading the newspaper this morning and it said that a very important Hasidic Rabbi died in Israel this week.

Look at this pic! Have you seen that many hats in a picture since the turn of the century...I haven't.

SteveAS · Mar 15, 2012

alanfgag said:
I've been bidding lightly and losing every time... a good feeling of sorts. I did come up a winner on this Stetson 3X reference to a style we know better in its Dobbs variation.

Nice Stetson Tijuana, Alan! I've also been bidding low and losing a lot lately, including on this hat. I already have a grey heather Tijuana and would have been glad to add this one to my collection. That suede finish 3X is nice felt!

In case I didn't post it earlier, I did win this nice, old Mallory Fifteen in a somewhat similar style a couple months ago.

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rlk · Mar 15, 2012

Joshbru3 said:
LOL. Nothings really wrong with them, I just love tall crowns and porkpies are about as short as they get. I guess the exception for me would be if a telescope was made with a 6 inch crown, so that the crown was still tall (kind of like the styles from 1915-1918) I have been trying to buy hats from the 50's that have proportions that I like so I can wear them. All of my pre-1940 lids never see head time because I really do not want ruin the sweatbands. The are part of the history of the hat, so all of my pre-1940's hats are part of the permanent collection. These early 50's telescope crowns have decent sized brims and when blocked out, still allow me to get the crown height that I want. I guess to me, if I ruin a 50's sweatband, its not a big deal to me. [huh]

Many of these hats have the same height as the front pinch of hats with a center crease--not really any lower. The 1912-1915 Telescopes were lower than the last 2 you have purchased. If you don't like the shape that is a different issue...

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alanfgag · Mar 15, 2012

Thanks Steve. I remember that Mallory auction - very nice. I had a heather Tijuana which I sold. It had very nice lines, but a soft felt that was almost impossible to crease. I remember Robert posting a suede Tijuana that seemed to have a different felt character. Hoping for that.

Joshbru3 · Mar 15, 2012

SteveAS said:
Nice Stetson Tijuana, Alan! I've also been bidding low and losing a lot lately, including on this hat. I already have a grey heather Tijuana and would have been glad to add this one to my collection. That suede finish 3X is nice felt!

In case I didn't post it earlier, I did win this nice, old Mallory Fifteen in a somewhat similar style a couple months ago.

Great Pick up, Steve! And great price too. By far, that liner is my favorite of all Mallory liners.

Joshbru3 · Mar 15, 2012

rlk said:
Many of these hats have the same height as the front pinch of hats with a center crease--not really any lower. The 1912-1915 Telescopes were lower than the last 2 you have purchased. If you don't like the shape that is a different issue...

Your absolutely right. The Milan was pretty tall even with a deep telescope and measured about 4 1/2 inches tall. It looks like the Panama will be about the same. I've tried a couple telescopes and they just don't look good on me. I even went back and redid the hats that I had as c-crowns. Every single hat that I wear as part of my daily routine is a tall centerdent with front pinches. There's just something about the side profile of a tall crown with a centerdent that gets me excited. I think as an experiment, I will find a hat to make into a tall telescope. Who knows, maybe I will like it.

I was thinking about something like the "Brava" or the "Vando" in the 1915 Schoble ad:

rlk · Mar 15, 2012

Joshbru3 said:
Your absolutely right. The Milan was pretty tall even with a deep telescope and measured about 4 1/2 inches tall. It looks like the Panama will be about the same. I've tried a couple telescopes and they just don't look good on me. I even went back and redid the hats that I had as c-crowns. Every single hat that I wear as part of my daily routine is a tall centerdent with front pinches. There's just something about the side profile of a tall crown with a centerdent that gets me excited. I think as an experiment, I will find a hat to make into a tall telescope. Who knows, maybe I will like it.

I was thinking about something like the "Brava" or the "Vando" in the 1915 Schoble ad:

Those are felts(and more shallow recession than PP). Here are some 1918 straws:

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By (from 1918 ad in AH)1919 the telescope was not a promoted style:

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You can leave it alone and call it a 1918 style hat.

SteveAS · Mar 15, 2012

alanfgag said:
Thanks Steve. I remember that Mallory auction - very nice. I had a heather Tijuana which I sold. It had very nice lines, but a soft felt that was almost impossible to crease. I remember Robert posting a suede Tijuana that seemed to have a different felt character. Hoping for that.

My heather 3X is very soft, but it has enough body to hold a crease (it was NOS when I received it, though, and I haven't had it in the rain). I'll bet you're right that the suede 3X will be a little stiffer. I have a Stetson suede 3X from that era and it's what motivated me to bid on this Tijuana even though I already have one; it's certainly stiffer than my heather 3X.

And thanks for the praise on my Mallory auction, gents.

Oh, and that Panama is cool, Josh!

carouselvic · Mar 15, 2012

Rancheros Visitadores

picked this up for a song...will start a separate thread
http://www.ebay.com/itm/160755360371?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

Rick Blaine · Mar 16, 2012

TipTop said:
Col Littletons are sold at Orvis (main store in Manchester, VT) and I have looked at them, right beside the Christy's (which I have bought). They look like good solid quality and are nicely styled. I'll be interested in your lifetime of use out of them.

Hoping so. They are from here in Tennessee, so I feel a certain degree of fealty. I have only ever seen one straw in person. Looked nice. I thought I once heard the felts were made by Rand in Billings, Montana- but I may be mistaken.

Rick Blaine · Mar 16, 2012

alanfgag said:
Josh is Orthodox when it comes to Crown Heights. (where is the "pat yourself on the back for that one" smilie?)

:eusa_doh:

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Lefty · Mar 16, 2012

later model 7xCB, 7 1/4

tiny Clear Nutria Quality in need of repair

alanfgag · Mar 16, 2012

Pretty hot stretcher.

WizardOfBoz · Mar 17, 2012

Ok, here's the question: how accurate (or vindictive) should I be leaving feedback for a vendor on ebay who stiffed me? Got a reasonable deal on a Stetson Carson (below). Forty bucks, plus twenty shipping. After a long, drawn-out process the vendor tells me that he shipped the hat to an APO address in Germany, in error. Refunded my money completely. The guy either was incompetent, or he found a bidder who paid more and stiffed me. Given that feedback is to help other buyers, my inclination is to give negative or neutral feedback. Am I being too much of a ba***rd?

Rick Blaine · Mar 17, 2012

WizardOfBoz said:
Ok, here's the question: how accurate (or vindictive) should I be leaving feedback for a vendor on ebay who stiffed me? Got a reasonable deal on a Stetson Carson (below). Forty bucks, plus twenty shipping. After a long, drawn-out process the vendor tells me that he shipped the hat to an APO address in Germany, in error. Refunded my money completely. The guy either was incompetent, or he found a bidder who paid more and stiffed me. Given that feedback is to help other buyers, my inclination is to give negative or neutral feedback. Am I being too much of a ba***rd?

If you think something was fishy, you ought to say so, IMO. As you suffered little loss tho' I -personally- would be more inclined to neutral rather than negative. Not to say I have not done both in similar circumstance. What does the rest of his fb look like- i.e.- is this a pattern? How evasive and/or mealy-mouthed were the sellers, did they assume an attitude? Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity, as Heinlein said.

Mystic · Mar 17, 2012

WizardOfBoz said:
Ok, here's the question: how accurate (or vindictive) should I be leaving feedback for a vendor on ebay who stiffed me? Got a reasonable deal on a Stetson Carson (below). Forty bucks, plus twenty shipping. After a long, drawn-out process the vendor tells me that he shipped the hat to an APO address in Germany, in error. Refunded my money completely. The guy either was incompetent, or he found a bidder who paid more and stiffed me. Given that feedback is to help other buyers, my inclination is to give negative or neutral feedback. Am I being too much of a ba***rd?

Don't really know about the "ba***rd" thing......lol

But, a negitive buying experience is a negitive buying experience.....no matter if from incompetence or being purposely screwed over. The way I see it you have no honest choice but to leave a negitive feedback.

but, my 2 cents is you got purposely screwed.......:frown:

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