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Even what printed books one checks out of the library are tracked, I know they are required to hand it over to the government upon request without notifying the patron.
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Even what printed books one checks out of the library are tracked, I know they are required to hand it over to the government upon request without notifying the patron.
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When I was a kid if you checked out a library book considered "inappropriate" for your age group you had to wait at the desk until the librarian called your mother to make sure she was OK with it. My ma's usual reply was "I don't care what the hell she wants to read as long as it keeps her quiet."
I just received a Kindle Fire as a gift (otherwise I wouldn't have bought one, being dedicated to books on paper) and I have to admit I like it for travel. Usually, I'm want to pack two or three paperbacks for long trips, but the Kindle makes lightweight traveling much easier. Also, probably the best attribute is being able to access almost any book one could want quickly. As someone who reads often, but doesn't own every book that is a favorite, this is wonderful indeed. Especially when traveling I get the urge to re-read a book I've read, but unless I had the foresight beforehand (rarely possible, since it's usually a spontaneous wish) it usually has to be put off.
I do love how much reading material it is possible to access on the Kindle.
I do love how much reading material it is possible to access on the Kindle.
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I've seen in a few films (notably Seven), and so far as I know it's absolutely true, that there is a list of book titled 'tagged' by the system in US libraries. Anyone taking out I think three of the twelve or so is automatically p for surveillance of what they read. It's all stuff like Mein Kampf, The Communist Manifesto, and (if memory serves.... it's banned over here, but I think available in the US?) The Anarchist's Cook Book. Naturally one of the spin-offs of computerisation has been that these things are much easier to record.
This is it. The whole notion that it's some sort of a replacement for books (at least for the foreseeable future) is a bit of a red herring. What the eBook reader really does is make books more portable, which has to be a good thing.
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Gee whiz. I've read two of those titles already -- I guess I'd better be more careful.
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I was reading Moby Dick on the ipad but drifted away from it. The border width doesn't lend itself to any comfortable reading position.
I'll stick to the printed word.
I'll stick to the printed word.
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The kindlefire has made this trip to the coast much friendlier. Of course, I have also purchased two paperbacks while on vacation!
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I think I actually own at least three of the whole list, from what I recall.... Not the Anarchist's Cookbook (though I have seen xeroxes of a few page from it in the file of a criminal law case some years ago).
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As a book dealer I would always have people asking me for copies of The Anarchist's Cookbook. Sadly, I was rarely able to meet the demand because copies didn't turn up very often, at least back in the days before eBay and Amazon. Though I myself do have a personal copy that I must have paid a buck for.
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It is a classic. Last I looked I could probably get away with it on academic grounds, but it's not possible to get hold of it here.
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I haven't checked out books from the library in some 20 years. I'd much rather buy my own copy which isn't that bad as I usually pay a buck or two for them at the library sales, thrift stores and flea markets.
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That's pretty much the same thing I do -- I used to use the library quite a bit when I was little, despite the librarian glowering over her glasses at me because I insisted on checking out books from the "adult" section, but the library's emphasis now is so much on current stuff that they rarely have anything I'm looking for anyway.
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In the U.S., I was speaking about the Patriot Act. One of the provisions requires libraries to track patron usage (checked out books and computer usage) and turn these records over the government. Patrons are not allowed to be warned that the library is turning over it's logs. This is against many librarians' personal/ professional beliefs, and when the law was passed, many librarians were quite upset (and still are). A couple of libraries came up with really creative solutions. One library hung out a banner (right on the front) which roughly said: "We are not currently being monitored under the patriot act. Watch for removal of this sign." Some libraries have adopted similar signs.
Now I use my local library quite frequently, after more than a decade or more of not using public libraries. Mostly I used them when I feel in the mood for either popular fiction or catching up on classical literature. Also I take my 3 year old with me and we have a fun time: he picks up some kids books, I pick up Maughan or Bugakov or whatever and we sit in the big comfy chairs and read (or in his case look at pictures) together for 30 minutes or so. I also rent DVD from them from time to time. Its a nice familly thing to do.
I spend so much money on non-fiction for work, research etc. it is hard for me to spend money on fiction that I read in a day or two and will never read again. So the library works well for that.
I spend so much money on non-fiction for work, research etc. it is hard for me to spend money on fiction that I read in a day or two and will never read again. So the library works well for that.
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now... if I could read on Kindle all the biographies from the teens and 1920s ... from Paris and New York,all the rare and hard to find editions, all those forgotten books ...that take me weeks and months to find... if Kindle has all that I will get a Kindle.
Otherwise I will do it the old fashion way I have been doing it all this time and visit the second books shops locally or get it on special bookshops online.
If Kindle has that ok...if it doesn't ---I DON"T NEED YOU KINDLE POO [huh]
Otherwise I will do it the old fashion way I have been doing it all this time and visit the second books shops locally or get it on special bookshops online.
If Kindle has that ok...if it doesn't ---I DON"T NEED YOU KINDLE POO [huh]
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Think of it this way: lugging several books around when traveling is a great opportunity to exercise both mind AND body at the same time! 
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Think of it this way: lugging several books around when traveling is a great opportunity to exercise both mind AND body at the same time!
Exactly right! :thumb:
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It is a great family thing to do!
You are building valuable family memories with your child that no gadget can replace.
My wife and I spent many hours at bookstores with our son doing just what you do. I've no doubt these experiences helped him become the young adult he is today.
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Reading makes us smarter and nicer. Saw this today and thought of this thread.
And some of these benefits come through particularly if we read on paper.
http://ideas.time.com/2013/06/03/why-we-should-read-literature/#ixzz2XjKlGqdi
And some of these benefits come through particularly if we read on paper.
http://ideas.time.com/2013/06/03/why-we-should-read-literature/#ixzz2XjKlGqdi
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