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The Other Open Roads.....
- Thread starter gtdean48
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Benzadmiral
Call Me a Cab
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- 2,815
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- The Swamp
The funny thing is -- this is the second time it's happened to me this fall.
I purchased a vintage Bulova watch from a dealer in Oklahoma. It ran well for two weeks, then stopped. I sent it back. He returned it promptly, saying it was fixed; but it still ran super fast. So he took it back, and refunded my money.
A week later, I get a box with the strap I'd put on the watch . . . with the watch attached, running fine. His note said he'd decided giving me the watch was the right thing to do!
I fired him off a letter with a check for half the original sales amount, saying I appreciated his gesture, but I knew he had a business to run and he'd already sunk quite a bit of resources into the watch. End result: Everyone happy, including watch.
If only more big business was more concerned with a good product instead of a good profit. I realize that a profit is necessary but if you can't produce satisfied costumers your business becomes almost a ponzy scheme and someday you will run out of new costumers. His offer for a free substitute and your payment non the less shows that perhaps there is a morning glow on the horizon of a dark (to me anyway) moral vacuum that seems to be the order of the current day for some.
redhawks2
One of the Regulars
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- 171
- Location
- Long Beach, CA
Here is yet another candidate for an OR style. This is a Bandera from Fort Worth. A very well made hat with a nice sweatband treatment.
TPD166
One Too Many
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- 1,295
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- Lone Star State
I'm pretty sure this is the one I just posted in the "New Hats" forum - arrived in the mail today! It looks as good in person as the pictures - the ribbon is a "pink" tan color.
Here is yet another candidate for an OR style. This is a Bandera from Fort Worth. A very well made hat with a nice sweatband treatment.
Salty O'Rourke
Practically Family
- Messages
- 636
- Location
- SE Virginia
Yes, that's right, free. I'd purchased a Champ Kasmir finish OR clone. The seller emailed me, refunding my money, as the hat I'd bought had been destroyed by moths -- and he was sending me a similar hat with much less damage, for free. This is it, a no-brand with soft felt, a fairly stiff 2.5" brim, and about a 5" crown at its high point.
Here's the liner crest. "Moveo et Proficio," it says, which sounds familiar:
All in all, it's a pleasant lid. I'll try cleaning it a little, but it's surprisingly nice as it is. Oh, and the sweatband has "Scarbrough & Sons, Austin" stamped on it. Anybody have any idea what brand it might be?
"Moveo et Proficio" is the Knox motto, but the crest is different from the ones I have.
Benzadmiral
Call Me a Cab
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- 2,815
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- The Swamp
Another Champ Kasmir OR clone
This is my most recent catch from eBay. The seller said the hat was purchased in the late '50s, worn once for a school play, and then sat in its box since. I dunno about the date, but it does look fresh:
And
Liner:
I've snapped the brim down and recreased it as a fedora. It looked like this (seller's pic, much darker than reality) before:
This is my most recent catch from eBay. The seller said the hat was purchased in the late '50s, worn once for a school play, and then sat in its box since. I dunno about the date, but it does look fresh:
And
Liner:
I've snapped the brim down and recreased it as a fedora. It looked like this (seller's pic, much darker than reality) before:
- Messages
- 10,524
- Location
- DnD Ranch, Cherokee County, GA
The List....
Adam Adamajestic
Adam LBJ Style R
Adam Lonestar
Adam Mainliner
Adam Tan Texas (64 L.B.J.K)
Adam Texan
Adam Texarkana
Adam Waco
Akubra Campdraft
Alexander 4x4
Bailey Beaver 20 ??
Beaver Brand River Runner
Biltmore Open Road (Wilderness, Silver Buckle)
Biltmore Calgary
Bonar-Phelps L.B.J.
Borsalino Alessandria
Bradford Ltd Kingston
Byron ???
Champ Ranger
Champ Texan
Churchill Beaver 35 ??
Courtney ?? ( for Harry Livingston)
Disney Ranger
Dobbs 20 ???
Dobbs Westward
Dobbs West Open Trail
Dunlap 20 ???
Kenworth Imperial ???
Knox 20 ???
Knox Westlite
LaSalle ???
Lee Corral (JCPenney Marathon, Towncraft, etc.)
Lee Trail
Mallory Dallas
Miller Douglas (Beaver Brand or Biltmore ?)
Park Crest Western
Penney Marathon
Peter Bros Shady Oak Bankers Special
Portis Sterling
Portis Pathfinder
Resistol Dalworth
Resistol Saddler
Resistol San Antonio
Resistol The Wide Country
Resistol Waco
Richman Bros Rambler
Schoble Mainliner
Shudde Bros ???
Society Club ???
Stephen L. Stetson Open Road
Stevens The President
Stevens ??? (Imperial & DeLuxe)
Tanbark 1546
Windsor ???
Wormser 3X 10Star
Wormser Texan
Various Store brands (ie Richman Bros, et al)
Saw one in a shop in OKC this past week = Biltmore Calgary...
Adam Adamajestic
Adam LBJ Style R
Adam Lonestar
Adam Mainliner
Adam Tan Texas (64 L.B.J.K)
Adam Texan
Adam Texarkana
Adam Waco
Akubra Campdraft
Alexander 4x4
Bailey Beaver 20 ??
Beaver Brand River Runner
Biltmore Open Road (Wilderness, Silver Buckle)
Biltmore Calgary
Bonar-Phelps L.B.J.
Borsalino Alessandria
Bradford Ltd Kingston
Byron ???
Champ Ranger
Champ Texan
Churchill Beaver 35 ??
Courtney ?? ( for Harry Livingston)
Disney Ranger
Dobbs 20 ???
Dobbs Westward
Dobbs West Open Trail
Dunlap 20 ???
Kenworth Imperial ???
Knox 20 ???
Knox Westlite
LaSalle ???
Lee Corral (JCPenney Marathon, Towncraft, etc.)
Lee Trail
Mallory Dallas
Miller Douglas (Beaver Brand or Biltmore ?)
Park Crest Western
Penney Marathon
Peter Bros Shady Oak Bankers Special
Portis Sterling
Portis Pathfinder
Resistol Dalworth
Resistol Saddler
Resistol San Antonio
Resistol The Wide Country
Resistol Waco
Richman Bros Rambler
Schoble Mainliner
Shudde Bros ???
Society Club ???
Stephen L. Stetson Open Road
Stevens The President
Stevens ??? (Imperial & DeLuxe)
Tanbark 1546
Windsor ???
Wormser 3X 10Star
Wormser Texan
Various Store brands (ie Richman Bros, et al)
Saw one in a shop in OKC this past week = Biltmore Calgary...
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TPD166
One Too Many
- Messages
- 1,295
- Location
- Lone Star State
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- 10,524
- Location
- DnD Ranch, Cherokee County, GA
Redhawk posted it first. I have been trying to track down a model name.
Bandera appears to have been a subsidiary of Bailey.
TPD166
One Too Many
- Messages
- 1,295
- Location
- Lone Star State
That's more than I've have ever found out about them and I've owned three including this one (including a 5X OR clone). The others were from the 1960s and this one seems older than the others. They are a very well made hat in any case. No model name is marked on the hat or the box.
- Messages
- 10,524
- Location
- DnD Ranch, Cherokee County, GA
The List...
Adam Adamajestic
Adam LBJ Style R
Adam Lonestar
Adam Mainliner
Adam Tan Texas (64 L.B.J.K)
Adam Texan
Adam Texarkana
Adam Waco
Akubra Campdraft
Alexander 4x4
Bailey Beaver 20 ??
Bandera ??? (3X, 5X/25)
Beaver Brand River Runner
Biltmore Open Road (Wilderness, Silver Buckle)
Biltmore Calgary
Bonar-Phelps L.B.J.
Borsalino Alessandria
Bradford Ltd Kingston
Byron ???
Champ Ranger
Champ Texan
Churchill Beaver 35 ??
Courtney ?? ( for Harry Livingston)
Disney Ranger
Dobbs 20 ???
Dobbs Westward
Dobbs West Open Trail
Dunlap 20 ???
Kenworth Imperial ???
Knox 20 ???
Knox Westlite
LaSalle ???
Lee Corral (JCPenney Marathon, Towncraft, etc.)
Lee Trail
Mallory Dallas
Miller Douglas (Beaver Brand or Biltmore ?)
Park Crest Western
Penney Marathon
Peter Bros Shady Oak Bankers Special
Portis Sterling
Portis Pathfinder
Resistol Dalworth
Resistol Saddler
Resistol San Antonio
Resistol The Wide Country
Resistol Waco
Richman Bros Rambler
Schoble Mainliner
Shudde Bros ???
Society Club ???
Stephen L. Stetson Open Road
Stevens The President
Stevens ??? (Imperial & DeLuxe)
Tanbark 1546
Windsor ???
Wormser 3X 10Star
Wormser Texan
Various Store brands (ie Richman Bros, et al)
Adam Adamajestic
Adam LBJ Style R
Adam Lonestar
Adam Mainliner
Adam Tan Texas (64 L.B.J.K)
Adam Texan
Adam Texarkana
Adam Waco
Akubra Campdraft
Alexander 4x4
Bailey Beaver 20 ??
Bandera ??? (3X, 5X/25)
Beaver Brand River Runner
Biltmore Open Road (Wilderness, Silver Buckle)
Biltmore Calgary
Bonar-Phelps L.B.J.
Borsalino Alessandria
Bradford Ltd Kingston
Byron ???
Champ Ranger
Champ Texan
Churchill Beaver 35 ??
Courtney ?? ( for Harry Livingston)
Disney Ranger
Dobbs 20 ???
Dobbs Westward
Dobbs West Open Trail
Dunlap 20 ???
Kenworth Imperial ???
Knox 20 ???
Knox Westlite
LaSalle ???
Lee Corral (JCPenney Marathon, Towncraft, etc.)
Lee Trail
Mallory Dallas
Miller Douglas (Beaver Brand or Biltmore ?)
Park Crest Western
Penney Marathon
Peter Bros Shady Oak Bankers Special
Portis Sterling
Portis Pathfinder
Resistol Dalworth
Resistol Saddler
Resistol San Antonio
Resistol The Wide Country
Resistol Waco
Richman Bros Rambler
Schoble Mainliner
Shudde Bros ???
Society Club ???
Stephen L. Stetson Open Road
Stevens The President
Stevens ??? (Imperial & DeLuxe)
Tanbark 1546
Windsor ???
Wormser 3X 10Star
Wormser Texan
Various Store brands (ie Richman Bros, et al)
TPD166
One Too Many
- Messages
- 1,295
- Location
- Lone Star State
Unusual Resistol
I have owned this one for a while, but I don’t think I ever posted this unusual hat in this forum. This is a 3X Byer-Rolnick-era Resistol OR-style that is marked both “Fort Worth” and “Pecos.” The hat was sold by a store in Minnesota, so the Texas markings aren’t related to the retailer. No paper label remains.
I have owned this one for a while, but I don’t think I ever posted this unusual hat in this forum. This is a 3X Byer-Rolnick-era Resistol OR-style that is marked both “Fort Worth” and “Pecos.” The hat was sold by a store in Minnesota, so the Texas markings aren’t related to the retailer. No paper label remains.
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- Somewhere south of crazy
Nice hat!
TPD166
One Too Many
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- 1,295
- Location
- Lone Star State
- Messages
- 10,524
- Location
- DnD Ranch, Cherokee County, GA
Interesting because a Pecos & a Ft Worth by Resistol look nothing like an Open Road.
Both a western hats with unbound brims. The Ft Worth having the Foreman/Ft Worth crease & Pecos having traditional Alpine/Cattleman.
TPD166
One Too Many
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- 1,295
- Location
- Lone Star State
This one came to me with a cattleman crease and flat brim. It's always been a mystery as to the markings.
TPD166
One Too Many
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- 1,295
- Location
- Lone Star State
It seems Resistol may recycle their model names too - I have an OR-style "Wide Country" but have come across a regular western style with the same name marked in it.
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- 10,524
- Location
- DnD Ranch, Cherokee County, GA
I'm sure they have. Not sure why they have so many OR clone type models but Stetson had quite a few from their old catalogs that look to be configured the same, maybe a different blocking but ribbon & matching edge binding the OR style...
